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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 19 September 2013, 16:43:10 »
Good luck getting a quality education if you live in the ghetto.  Not only is there income, health, and education inequality for low income minorities, but they lack the social capital (read network ties) that middle class families tend to have and that tend to be the things that actually get you decent paying jobs.  When all your friends and family friends work at minimum wage jobs, it's hard to get those network ties that help pull you out.

Of course, it's easier to generalize and just say that they're all just lazy and that's why they're poor.  I mean, that's why we have so many poor Hispanic people in America, right?  They're all off getting drunk off tequila and having siestas.
Those are disadvantages, but they're also excuses. The real thing that holds back people in deprived areas, whether it's black people in projects or white people in trailer parks is that those places have have a culture of laziness and unwarranted self-entitlement that stretches back generations. Look at the demographics of immigrants, whether they're Southeast Asian, African, Eastern European, whatever, they have the same disadvantages as domestic poor people yet don't exhibit any of the same behaviour, and actually find employment, start businesses, encourage their kids to do well academically, and actually improve their lot over successive generations.

oh also this. poor people are lazy? **** you. that's personal.
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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 19 September 2013, 17:47:39 »
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...social entitlement epidemic...

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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 19 September 2013, 18:00:52 »
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...social entitlement epidemic...

Jesu Christu.



seriously can you believe people have the gall to want to eat and have a place to live and access to decent medical care? the nerve of the poor.
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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 19 September 2013, 18:12:01 »
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...social entitlement epidemic...

Jesu Christu.

seriously can you believe people have the gall to want to eat and have a place to live and access to decent medical care? the nerve of the poor.

There's a really nasty element in American society that used to slink around and mutter their vile sneers in private.  Now they feel empowered by the right-wing nutjobs infesting the Republican Party and the completely insane Tea-Baggers to voice their opinions in the public square, vociferously and vehemently.

I'm not a religious person, but I consider people like these to be evil. 

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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 19 September 2013, 18:33:34 »
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...social entitlement epidemic...

Jesu Christu.

seriously can you believe people have the gall to want to eat and have a place to live and access to decent medical care? the nerve of the poor.

There's a really nasty element in American society that used to slink around and mutter their vile sneers in private.  Now they feel empowered by the right-wing nutjobs infesting the Republican Party and the completely insane Tea-Baggers to voice their opinions in the public square, vociferously and vehemently.

I'm not a religious person, but I consider people like these to be evil.

There's this nasty, evil, racist group of white Americans called 'progressives' who, over the past half century, have decided that another way to compete socially is to prove how unracist they are. In the process of doing this they have created a massive welfare state that destroyed the black family in America, forcing a group of Americans who, though poor, had a powerful set of social values. These values have been destroyed by white liberals, who compete with one another by basting themselves in white guilt. This is racist because they simply assume that black Americans could never get anywhere without all these programs to assist them. Isn't racism (at the center of its black, tarry heart) the sincere belief that some other group of people are inherently inferior? What does the constant coddling of black Americans say, if not that? Start treating black Americans like adults -- they can take it.

Does racism still exist in some hearts? It must. But does that evil remain codified into law. No. Not like in Russia. Which is funny -- there are America-hating Europeans that just love to see Americans self-flagellate over race. It's pretty ****ing sad.
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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 19 September 2013, 19:06:46 »
COPS ARE THE PROBLEM.

THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS BULL****.

COPS ARE CORRUPT HYPOCRITICAL SWINE. THEY ARE BULLIES ON A POWER TRIP THAT ARE BACKED UP BY CORRUPT JUDGES AND CORRUPT UNIONS. THEY DONT CARE WHAT COLOR YOU ARE, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PART OF THEIR BLUE BROTHERHOOD.

**** THEM. NEVER FEEL SAFE AROUND THESE PIGS, THEY AREN'T HERE TO PROTECT YOU ONLY THE LAW WHEN IT SERVES THEM RIGHT.


thank you. continue with your race bull**** and ignore the real problem of corruption.
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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 19 September 2013, 19:12:19 »
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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 19 September 2013, 19:46:29 »
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...social entitlement epidemic...

Jesu Christu.

seriously can you believe people have the gall to want to eat and have a place to live and access to decent medical care? the nerve of the poor.

There's a really nasty element in American society that used to slink around and mutter their vile sneers in private.  Now they feel empowered by the right-wing nutjobs infesting the Republican Party and the completely insane Tea-Baggers to voice their opinions in the public square, vociferously and vehemently.

I'm not a religious person, but I consider people like these to be evil.

There's this nasty, evil, racist group of white Americans called 'progressives' who, over the past half century, have decided that another way to compete socially is to prove how unracist they are. In the process of doing this they have created a massive welfare state that destroyed the black family in America, forcing a group of Americans who, though poor, had a powerful set of social values. These values have been destroyed by white liberals, who compete with one another by basting themselves in white guilt. This is racist because they simply assume that black Americans could never get anywhere without all these programs to assist them. Isn't racism (at the center of its black, tarry heart) the sincere belief that some other group of people are inherently inferior? What does the constant coddling of black Americans say, if not that? Start treating black Americans like adults -- they can take it.

Does racism still exist in some hearts? It must. But does that evil remain codified into law. No. Not like in Russia. Which is funny -- there are America-hating Europeans that just love to see Americans self-flagellate over race. It's pretty ****ing sad.

Oh, so you think that social welfare programs only benefit African-Americans?  Must just blow your little mind to be reminded of the fact that MOST WELFARE RECIPIENTS ARE WHITE, eh?

And a few more facts for you.  Social safety net programs like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, SNAP, and so forth, are the only reason that many older people, disabled people, veterans, and children in America are able to live. 

You think that progressive policies like these are somehow cheating all you hard-working, virtuous Republicans of your money?  Wake up and look around you.  Right-wing majority states, like most of the Old South, receive MORE welfare dollars than they ever pay into the system. 

The fact that we have programs like these are because we as a nation are committed to helping those who need help.  Despite the best efforts of Republitards to gut these programs at every opportunity.

Meh.  As amusing as it is to read right-wing ranting about the eeeeeevillllsssss of social welfare programs, at the end of the day I could care less about your opinion.  Your point of view represents a bitter minority of Americans, people who would only be satisfied were we to return to the bad old days of debtor prisons, poorhouses, and child labor.

Not going to happen.

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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 04:02:23 »
COPS ARE THE PROBLEM.

THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS BULL****.

COPS ARE CORRUPT HYPOCRITICAL SWINE. THEY ARE BULLIES ON A POWER TRIP THAT ARE BACKED UP BY CORRUPT JUDGES AND CORRUPT UNIONS. THEY DONT CARE WHAT COLOR YOU ARE, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PART OF THEIR BLUE BROTHERHOOD.

**** THEM. NEVER FEEL SAFE AROUND THESE PIGS, THEY AREN'T HERE TO PROTECT YOU ONLY THE LAW WHEN IT SERVES THEM RIGHT.


thank you. continue with your race bull**** and ignore the real problem of corruption.
see? nobody cares about corruption. or economics. people are dead concerned about race issues and gay rights.
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 05:14:03 »
Oh, so you think that social welfare programs only benefit African-Americans?

Nope -- I never said that Greystoke.

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Must just blow your little mind to be reminded of the fact that MOST WELFARE RECIPIENTS ARE WHITE, eh?

Not really. Most welfare recipients are white and live in non-urban areas.

Quote from: Greystoke
And a few more facts for you.  Social safety net programs like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, SNAP, and so forth, are the only reason that many older people, disabled people, veterans, and children in America are able to live.

People who are truly helpless like the elderly, children and the mentally ill should receive help -- whether it be from the local community or government, America is an affluent enough nation to do this. I think it's very sad Greystoke that for all your posing about being above the discussion the only argument you can present is that I am heartless for opposing the current welfare policy. I feel that the existing welfare safety net has become a hammock for some people. I never said all people, so you should try to calm yourself down and not be so emotional. You say I'm heartless? Well, I think the existing system encourages young men (of all races) to bring children into the world, and then leave the child and the mother. That's brainless.

I can show you statistics that show that fatherlessness has been a problem for nearly every racial group, but that it has hit Latino and Blacks especially hard.

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You think that progressive policies like these are somehow cheating all you hard-working, virtuous Republicans of your money?

I'm a Libertarian, actually. I vote Republican because the Libertarian candidate is too crazy (free and open borders, woo!) and has no chance of winning. As for my money, and how Progressives decide to use it -- I wouldn't mind them taking my money if they only used it well. Instead, their efforts actually hurt the people they're supposed to be helping. Stick around as long as I have Greystoke, and you start to realize that the problems of today look eerily like yesterdays solutions.

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Wake up and look around you.  Right-wing majority states, like most of the Old South, receive MORE welfare dollars than they ever pay into the system.

That's an interesting claim -- I wonder if it's true. Regardless, I think it would benefit everyone (of all races) if the receipt of welfare benefits to able-bodied people continued to require that find work within a certain time frame. But President Obama is gutting that work requirement.

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Your point of view represents a bitter minority of Americans, people who would only be satisfied were we to return to the bad old days of debtor prisons, poorhouses, and child labor.

You're being very, very emotional about this Greystoke. But follow his logic people: anyone who suggests that we re-evaluate the welfare system is someone who wants to see the return of debtor prisons and child labor. That's a laughably stupid argument. Progressives are stupid because they can't own up to the fact that their policies not only don't work, they hurt their intended beneficiaries.

As for police, it's a tough job and I never interface with police except when I'm getting a parking infraction in NYC. To me, they're basically tax collectors. Are all of them corrupt and evil? No. I don't really like to be bossed around by anyone, including police. Do I think authoritarian-oriented, peaked-in-high-school type people are drawn to the career? Maybe. I don't think they hunt minorities, as described by some. I would make their union illegal so that officers who are corrupt or inept can be fired, and I would make cops who break laws face stiffer penalties. I would keep stop and frisk in NYC because it has demonstrably saved the lives of young men over the last few years.
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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 05:59:43 »
COPS ARE THE PROBLEM.

THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS BULL****.

COPS ARE CORRUPT HYPOCRITICAL SWINE. THEY ARE BULLIES ON A POWER TRIP THAT ARE BACKED UP BY CORRUPT JUDGES AND CORRUPT UNIONS. THEY DONT CARE WHAT COLOR YOU ARE, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PART OF THEIR BLUE BROTHERHOOD.

**** THEM. NEVER FEEL SAFE AROUND THESE PIGS, THEY AREN'T HERE TO PROTECT YOU ONLY THE LAW WHEN IT SERVES THEM RIGHT.


thank you. continue with your race bull**** and ignore the real problem of corruption.

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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 06:16:01 »
^ link won't work with swear filter on.
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 06:39:40 »
^ link won't work with swear filter on.

Yeah I guessed as much

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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 09:44:09 »
^ link won't work with swear filter on.

Yeah I guessed as much

Copy and paste in browser address line, edit the link, press Enter.

Easy-peasy.   :cool: 

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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 10:33:48 »
or question yourself why you have swear filter on in the first place
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

-Ray Bradbury

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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 16:16:22 »
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...social entitlement epidemic...

Jesu Christu.



seriously can you believe people have the gall to want to eat and have a place to live and access to decent medical care? the nerve of the poor.
It's exceptionally easy to have enough money to afford food and housing in the developed world with even the lowest rung of employment, even in some Mcjob. Medical care is different in the US (I'm in the UK), I agree. Yes, some people are genuinely unemployed despite their best efforts, but the majority of the unemployed are feckless, lazy and from generations of unemployed parents. So yeah, for those same people to think the government and the rest of society should fund their existence is absolutely self-entitled in my opinion.

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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 16:23:13 »
Quote
...social entitlement epidemic...

Jesu Christu.



seriously can you believe people have the gall to want to eat and have a place to live and access to decent medical care? the nerve of the poor.
It's exceptionally easy to have enough money to afford food and housing in the developed world with even the lowest rung of employment, even in some Mcjob. Medical care is different in the US (I'm in the UK), I agree. Yes, some people are genuinely unemployed despite their best efforts, but the majority of the unemployed are feckless, lazy and from generations of unemployed parents. So yeah, for those same people to think the government and the rest of society should fund their existence is absolutely self-entitled in my opinion.
wrong place. nobody listens.
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

-Ray Bradbury

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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 18:02:47 »

who trains these cops?
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Re: lol racism isn't a problem anymore lol
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 19:27:44 »
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...social entitlement epidemic...

Jesu Christu.



seriously can you believe people have the gall to want to eat and have a place to live and access to decent medical care? the nerve of the poor.
It's exceptionally easy to have enough money to afford food and housing in the developed world with even the lowest rung of employment, even in some Mcjob. Medical care is different in the US (I'm in the UK), I agree. Yes, some people are genuinely unemployed despite their best efforts, but the majority of the unemployed are feckless, lazy and from generations of unemployed parents. So yeah, for those same people to think the government and the rest of society should fund their existence is absolutely self-entitled in my opinion.

lol http://www.ibtimes.com/mcdonalds-minimum-wage-budget-guide-unintentionally-shows-minimum-wage-salary-impractical-unlivable

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