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Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 00:43:48 »
Dorkvader seems to think Hall effect or vintage SMK from this old post.  The only other info I could find is with a low profile ITW Magnetic Valve, which this is not.  Could be a fun project for someone to revive.  The only one I know should know for sure what this has is HaaTa since it appears he has one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/XEROX-KEYBOARD-UNTESTED-AS-IS-SEE-DESCRIPTION-/321572784898?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item4adf3b4b02

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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 11:19:04 »
Yeah, here's the options in order of liklihood
1. honeywell hall effect (bent spacebar Ive only seen on HE and keytronic) ctrl keys and return key are the right shape/size. FOnt looks about right. Key profile looks right.
2. vintage keytronic Foam & foil. Bent spacebar. Thick spherical doubleshots, etc.
3. Vintage SMK (thick black spherical doubleshots, return key looks about right.
pretty sure its not vintage SMK because of the curved spacebar.
« Last Edit: Tue, 04 November 2014, 11:21:06 by dorkvader »

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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 22 November 2014, 19:32:09 »
Someone here bought this thing right? Has it arrived yet?

Seems like it went for $44 + $30 shipping. Not bad for a hall effect keyboard, if that’s what it was.
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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 22 November 2014, 19:39:50 »
I believe Hwood got it.

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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 22 November 2014, 19:48:30 »
Someone here bought this thing right? Has it arrived yet?

Seems like it went for $44 + $30 shipping. Not bad for a hall effect keyboard, if that’s what it was.
Yep, got it. Should be coming monday
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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 22 November 2014, 21:08:34 »
You had better take pictures and disassembly.

I'll add this to the number of people to contact once hall controller is figured out.

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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 22 November 2014, 22:10:43 »
I like this. The more people are working on Hall Effect, the more shared knowledge there is, the better!!!
Most of the modding can be done on your own once you break through the psychological barriers.

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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 23 November 2014, 00:00:30 »
You had better take pictures and disassembly.

I'll add this to the number of people to contact once hall controller is figured out.
I'll be sure to :thumb:. Really hoping this turns out to be hall effect
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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 13:04:19 »
Bruh











Maxi-switch vintage linears
pics to come
« Last Edit: Mon, 24 November 2014, 15:04:25 by hwood34 »
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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 14:33:29 »
SMK vintage linear
Those are some fine keycaps. How do you like the switches?

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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 14:37:08 »
SMK vintage linear
Those are some fine keycaps. How do you like the switches?
They kinda stick near the bottom on the return and are pretty heavy, so not a whole lot. I'll mess around with it a little more though
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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 14:44:58 »
need a good pic of the spacebar.

So far there are three known manufacturers of curved ones. Microswitch, keytronic and (now) SMK.

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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 14:49:05 »
Is there actually SMK branding, or do the switches just look like SMKs? I think there were like 10 other similar looking switches.

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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 14:54:12 »
Is there actually SMK branding, or do the switches just look like SMKs? I think there were like 10 other similar looking switches.
Really? No SMK branding, the only thing I see is "The Maxi-Switch CO" printed on the PCB

edit: just did a quick search, turns out these are probably maxi-switch vintage linears
« Last Edit: Mon, 24 November 2014, 14:56:30 by hwood34 »
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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 14:57:32 »
Probably these then:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Maxi_Switch_vintage_linear
yeah. Still an interesting find, just not crazy about the switches
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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 15:14:27 »
Probably these then:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Maxi_Switch_vintage_linear
yeah. Still an interesting find, just not crazy about the switches

Damn, sorry.
Nah, it was still  good buy. The things really cool, and the switches aren't that bad. I'm gonna try and clean em out or lube them and see if I can make them a little smoother.
And what's the term for when tiny particles of solder collect on a metal? I just noticed it on the spacebar stab and was curious
« Last Edit: Mon, 24 November 2014, 15:16:23 by hwood34 »
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Re: Xerox 820-II $100 + shipping OBO
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 15:23:17 »
If you have some very hard (e.g. carbide-tip) flush cutters, you could snip a few loops of the spring off for each switch, and get something a bit less stiff.

Or I wonder if the spring is similar enough in size that you could use e.g. MX or Alps springs.