Author Topic: So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...  (Read 3426 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline irjoe

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 111
  • Location: San Diego
What's the overall consensus?

My main question is regarding its compatability with Mac OS X.
I have a macbook pro, and would love to have the KBT race as a portable option. If not, I will get a pure instead....

The Race manual says it's N-KRO, which would (from my understanding) make it incompatible with OS X, but from some DT posts reveal that they are actually 6KRO instead...

Can anyone confirm the 6KRO/NKRO, and even better, whether it's OS X compatible?

I'd be eternally grateful!

Offline dorkvader

  • Posts: 6289
  • Location: Boston area
  • all about the "hack" in "geekhack"
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 31 May 2012, 22:34:33 »
The manual probably means it's NKRO in regard to the switch/PCB matrix having diodes to support it (so it's NKRO via PS2). I believe they are 6KRO via USB for apple compatibility, though I'll let a user chime in to be sure.

Offline laffindude

  • Posts: 1521
  • ( ̽ ¬ ˳¬)
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 06:25:43 »
6KRO. No PS2 support. NKRO is mistakenly used in the English manual.

Offline 1391401

  • Posts: 436
  • MX CLEAR
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 10:12:12 »
Hey - I am not a Mac power use by any means, I hate the window manager in OSX so much I just use the terminal for as many tasks as I can, but I plugged my Race in at work and everything seems to work fine on my iMac.  Definitely a nice replacement to that horrible keyboard that comes with the thing...  Will probably be doing a review once I can get some time to sit down and write one.
People I've given money to from this webform who never respond to me and have not shipped me anything: ctrlalt.io 1 2, Team Readline Reputable alternatives to GH group buys: http://pimpmykeyboard.com, https://www.massdrop.com,

Offline wilsongunawan

  • Posts: 136
  • Location: Indonesia
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 12:08:49 »
i just try it on my mac air and work perfectly even the media key and the volume key! the alt button become command button though.
Currrent : Siig minitouch <blue monterrey alps>, kbt-RACE <cherry mx-red> with green LED, Filco MJ2 <cherry mx-ergoClear>, IBM model M

Offline dbdynsty25

  • Posts: 51
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 12:11:49 »
Quote from: wilsongunawan;605681
i just try it on my mac air and work perfectly even the media key and the volume key! the alt button become command button though.

You can easily remap the alt and command buttons in the keyboard settings on your macbook if needed.

Offline irjoe

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 111
  • Location: San Diego
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 13:41:50 »
Awesome, this is a lot more reassuring having this confirmed by many GH'ers.

Onto a second question, what are some alternative options available for swapping out the keys? I take it that some keys are not standard... is everybody just using the given abs keycaps the keyboard comes with?

Offline 1391401

  • Posts: 436
  • MX CLEAR
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 17:34:17 »
Quote from: irjoe;605753
Awesome, this is a lot more reassuring having this confirmed by many GH'ers.

Onto a second question, what are some alternative options available for swapping out the keys? I take it that some keys are not standard... is everybody just using the given abs keycaps the keyboard comes with?

I don't think this keyboard is a good candidate for using custom key caps.  I say that mainly because although it has the same keys as most keyboards the keys it does have are often (a) a different width (e.g. arrow keys, shift key, etc) or (b) a different row.  Finding a set that matches perfectly without that franken-cap feel will be difficult.

Pic below shows some of the non-standard keys:

I have not taken a look at how tall the keys are compared to standard cherry keys or SP DS keys but I have a feeling they are a lot taller too.
« Last Edit: Tue, 06 June 2017, 16:47:06 by trizkut »
People I've given money to from this webform who never respond to me and have not shipped me anything: ctrlalt.io 1 2, Team Readline Reputable alternatives to GH group buys: http://pimpmykeyboard.com, https://www.massdrop.com,

Offline laffindude

  • Posts: 1521
  • ( ̽ ¬ ˳¬)
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 02 June 2012, 06:12:27 »
Those 6 keys on the bottom right are all standard 1.25 sized R1 keys. You can just use blank modifier on it. Now, Trying to get 1.5 sized R5 keys would be a problem. Even 1x1 spaced R5 key is not easy to get.

Offline net2522

  • Posts: 322
  • Location: THAILAND
  • lollollollol
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 02 June 2012, 06:45:55 »
If someone find red ESC 1.5 please tell me!!

Offline mbc

  • Posts: 469
  • Location: Germany
  • -delete-
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 02 June 2012, 06:50:19 »
Quote from: net2522;606135
If someone find red ESC 1.5 please tell me!!

Got a white cherry ds 1.5 esc^^

Offline laffindude

  • Posts: 1521
  • ( ̽ ¬ ˳¬)
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 02 June 2012, 06:51:32 »
Quote from: net2522;606135
If someone find red ESC 1.5 please tell me!!


They exist

Offline net2522

  • Posts: 322
  • Location: THAILAND
  • lollollollol
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 02 June 2012, 06:55:13 »
WoW!!


mbc, Do you have a pic.? So temptttt
« Last Edit: Sat, 02 June 2012, 06:57:40 by net2522 »

Offline quake4mhg

  • Posts: 492
  • Location: BC, Canada
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 02 June 2012, 23:54:59 »
Race Keycap height

[ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ] 52156[/ATTACH]

Offline swi7z3r

  • Posts: 23
  • Location: Yellowknife
So the KBT race has been in some people's hands for a while...
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 03 June 2012, 02:12:29 »
Quote from: 1391401;605579
Hey - I am not a Mac power use by any means, I hate the window manager in OSX so much I just use the terminal for as many tasks as I can, but I plugged my Race in at work and everything seems to work fine on my iMac.  Definitely a nice replacement to that horrible keyboard that comes with the thing...  Will probably be doing a review once I can get some time to sit down and write one.

Check out Total Finder.  It's an essential OS X upgrade.  Along with Alfred.