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Offline phinix

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List of hot-swappable keyboards
« on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 15:32:19 »
Can we make a list of hot swappable keyboards?
I would like to see what are our options, if there are ISO versions, aluminium  cases etc

I'll start:
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Offline rajendra82

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 16:31:19 »
Can we make a list of hot swappable keyboards?
I would like to see what are our options, if there are ISO versions, aluminium  cases etc
I would be interested in following this. I own a cheap 25 Watt soldering iron, but it lacks temperature control. That and my lack of skill means I am better off springing for a hot swappable board. The GMMK looks to be at the top of the list so far, as I have heard of pin incompatibility in the cheaper Chinese Huo Ji/Granvela brands. I would be tempted at something in the $50 to $70 price range and have a full or tenkeyless layout.



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Offline Telstar

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 19:23:52 »
I have got the GMMK because it has ISO layout.

The Wooting One is also ANSI/ISO and hot-swappable but you cannot buy it barebone and with normal contact switches you lose the gradual pressing feature.
I'm getting one with the clicky switches because they dont sound too horrible. The build quality seems superior to the GMMK, although the latter can be dampened.

Edit: I got it today, it is hot-swap, but it will accept only their own switches. A heavy linear black-type is in the work, though and considering that the actual ones are very light is a good thing.
« Last Edit: Mon, 15 April 2019, 08:37:58 by Telstar »

Offline deejasaurus

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 03 April 2019, 15:12:10 »
Massdrop ALT -- 65%, aluminum, low or high profile, RGB
Input Club Kira -- compact full size, plastic or aluminum frame with an acrylic base, upcoming full aluminum case (Kira Stealth), RGB.
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Offline daneb

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 03 April 2019, 15:41:27 »
Zhuque Teamwolf (you can buy e.g. on Aliexpress/Amazon) - low-end keyboard but with sufficient quality (for that price) for testing switches. Aluminium, RGB.

HEXGEARS 87 - another low-end hot-swappable keyboard (again on Aliexpress), probably best use is for testing switches. I am waiting for one, so I cannot speak about quality yet.

Offline TeacherGeek

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 13 April 2019, 16:42:01 »
I'm a new keyboard enthusiast and hot swappable seems like the way to go to me. I got the GK705 from Aliexpress and am waiting for it to arrive. I was going to get the TKL GK 707 but it was only 5 dollars more essentially another 17 Kailh box white switches.

I am hoping that there will be a wireless hot swappable keyboard and I would definitely get it.

I've done a bit of research myself and here is a list. I also saw on there that there is that Wooting One, but I think if you can only use their key switches, then it defeats the purpose of hot swappable.

All prices are without shipping (unless free) and has switches (switch price varies) and in American Dollars. Note that Hexgears and Hexgear are two different companies. Confusing!

MonkeyKing GK61 - 60%, RGB - $69

GMMK - 60%, TKL, Full, RGB - $95

Hexgears GK707/705 - TKL/Full, White LED - $45/50

Hexgear Gemini/Dawn - TKL, RGB - $139

CIY Team Wolf - 60%, RGB - $60

Tofu - 65%, RGB - $150

Massdrop CTRL - TKL, RGB - $200

Geek GK61 - RGB, 60% - $53

Re:Type - TKL, RGB - $$?? - Need to Join Waitlist

Kira - RGB, 75% - $179

Dygma Raise - 65%, RGB, Ergo - $266

Dye Fetish GK61 - RGB, 60% - $76

Price differences are crazy different. I think it will come down to build quality of the chassis, cords and keycaps. I don't usually review stuff but I feel like I want to with the GK705 since I don't see any on youtube.


 
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Offline rajendra82

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 14 April 2019, 00:17:39 »
I ordered the GK705 for $50 as well. I have been impressed with box switches so far, and debating between box pink and box jade based on how they feel in the tactile switch tester ordered on kbdfans. Ironically they mispacked that tester with a box brown switch instead of box white. Since both box pink and jade are currently sold out on novelkeys, I will get the swappable keyboard first, and might just stick with the shipped switches, if I like them almost as much

I chose the GK705 over the others because the hot swappable boards with Outemu sockets are not compatible with Kailh. The pins on the Outemu switches are supposedly thinner and spaced differently, so other switches won't fit. Actually I have heard they fit once, but that destroys the socket. That's why I stayed away from Huo Ji/Granvela/Team Wolf, as Kailh has a bigger variety of switches to offer, and the switches are of arguably better quality.

PS - The Kono store keyboard is from the US division of Hexgears, while the Aliexpress one is from the Chinese division. They have different product lines, but some are just different names for the same keyboards. For example, GK950 = X-1, K757A/B = Nova, GK755A/B = Supernova, and K735 = Impulse. Sadly, the US division does not offer something equivalent to GK705/707 yet.

China:
http://en.hexgears.com/

US:
https://www.hexgears.org/
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Offline Kevadu

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 14 April 2019, 00:46:21 »
KBDfans's GK64 is hot-swap.  I wouldn't actually recommend it, but it exists...

Offline TeacherGeek

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 14 April 2019, 16:50:38 »
I ordered the GK705 for $50 as well. I have been impressed with box switches so far, and debating between box pink and box jade based on how they feel in the tactile switch tester ordered on kbdfans. Ironically they mispacked that tester with a box brown switch instead of box white. Since both box pink and jade are currently sold out on novelkeys, I will get the swappable keyboard first, and might just stick with the shipped switches, if I like them almost as much

I chose the GK705 over the others because the hot swappable boards with Outemu sockets are not compatible with Kailh. The pins on the Outemu switches are supposedly thinner and spaced differently, so other switches won't fit. Actually I have heard they fit once, but that destroys the socket. That's why I stayed away from Huo Ji/Granvela/Team Wolf, as Kailh has a bigger variety of switches to offer, and the switches are of arguably better quality.

PS - The Kono store keyboard is from the US division of Hexgears, while the Aliexpress one is from the Chinese division. They have different product lines, but some are just different names for the same keyboards. For example, GK950 = X-1, K757A/K757B = Nova, GK755A/B = Supernova, and K735 = Impulse. Sadly, the US division does not offer something equivalent to GK705 yet.

China:
http://en.hexgears.com/

US:
https://www.hexgears.org/

I think what threw me was the different logo for both "companies"

I have also heard that kaihl owns hexgears in China that is why they can make such cheap keyboards. I can't wait for mine to arrive. I think it's still at least 2 weeks away though.

Offline rajendra82

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 00:30:52 »
Aliexpress shipping has usually been decent for me. My Atlanta bound packages typically get to Miami in about a week. Then US customs has to go through it, which is where it grinds to a halt.

Offline TeacherGeek

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 04:15:01 »
Aliexpress shipping has usually been decent for me. My Atlanta bound packages typically get to Miami in about a week. Then US customs has to go through it, which is where it grinds to a halt.

I've ordered many things from Aliexpress, it's usually like a month from ordering. I have no idea why it takes that long.

Offline Telstar

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 08:39:10 »
I've ordered many things from Aliexpress, it's usually like a month from ordering. I have no idea why it takes that long.

Anything sent with regular China post takes that long.
If it's not via boat, then it just clogged behind faster shipping methods.

Offline rajendra82

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 00:04:14 »
My Aliexpress keycap packages have already made it into US Postal service hands in about a week, so I doubt they were literally on a slow boat from China. While looking at those, and trying to get my keyboard tracking number, I noticed they have dropped prices more on the Hexgears hot swappable keyboards to ridiculously low levels, with GK705 at $42.65, and GK707 for $37.85, both with free shipping. You could get the keyboard, pull the switches, and throw it away, and you will come out ahead, as 90/110 packs of Kailh box switches cost more than that from the same site. Oh, how I wish they had a price match deal to give me back $7.

I think these prices are good for next 7 days, so I recommend jumping on this deal if you are on the fence about it.
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Offline TeacherGeek

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 04:04:12 »
My Aliexpress keycap packages have already made it into US Postal service hands in about a week, so I doubt they were literally on a slow boat from China. While looking at those, and trying to get my keyboard tracking number, I noticed they have dropped prices more on the Hexgears hot swappable keyboards to ridiculously low levels, with GK705 at $42.65, and GK707 for $37.85, both with free shipping. You could get the keyboard, pull the switches, and throw it away, and you will come out ahead, as 90/110 packs of Kailh box switches cost more than that from the same site. Oh, how I wish they had a price match deal to give me back $7.

I think these prices are good for next 7 days, so I recommend jumping on this deal if you are on the fence about it.

Yeah, I want my $7 too haha, but I guess I pay that to get it a week earlier. Call it express shipping lolz

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 05:34:05 »
HS60 PCB for 60% builds. ANSI/ISO/HHKB (when in stock :P)

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 07:10:22 »
HS60 PCB for 60% builds. ANSI/ISO/HHKB (when in stock :P)

This ain't a keyboard, just a board. Really expensive too and only in ISO layout.

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 08:35:55 »
HS60 PCB for 60% builds. ANSI/ISO/HHKB (when in stock :P)

This ain't a keyboard, just a board. Really expensive too and only in ISO layout.

The GK64 was listed which is also just a PCB, so I thought I'd mention it. (Although the webpage does let you buy a whole kit, which ours does as well)

It IS available in ANSI/ISO/HHKB, just not in stock at the moment.

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 09:12:52 »
Tokyo60

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Re: List of hot-swappable keyboards
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 18:18:15 »
HS60 PCB for 60% builds. ANSI/ISO/HHKB (when in stock :P)

This ain't a keyboard, just a board. Really expensive too and only in ISO layout.

The GK64 was listed which is also just a PCB, so I thought I'd mention it. (Although the webpage does let you buy a whole kit, which ours does as well)

It IS available in ANSI/ISO/HHKB, just not in stock at the moment.

I'm finding a lot of these boards probs won't get restocked, it's been ages. Same with these ktypes, hexgears etc they are on pre-order for ages now. I'm just wondering if they are finding that the market has much cheaper keyboards that people rather spend their money on. I mean massdrop ctrl for $200 is insane.