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[GB] DSA Scientific (shipping)
« on: Wed, 10 April 2019, 08:05:34 »


2019-09-12: Currently shipping to buyers
2019-08-29: Shipping to vendors
2019-06-12: Production has started
2019-05-11: Orders closed

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Welcome to the DSA Scientific group buy!

DSA Scientific is inspired by the legendary Texas Instruments (TI) scientific calculators.

Bringing you the unique deep teal colour and possibly the geekiest novelties ever, including mathematical constants π (pi), e, φ (the Golden ratio) and physical constant ħ (h-bar, the reduced Planck constant).

Opened from April 10 to May 10, 2019.

Technical specs
  • Made in USA by Signature Plastics
  • DSA spherical profile
  • Doubleshot ABS plastic
  • Cherry MX compatible
Colour codes
  • Pantoneģ 7476 C ("deep teal")
  • SP ABS: GB, GTD, YCB

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Kits

Alphas


TKL + Specialty


Ortho + 40%


Numpad


Novelties


ISO


NorDe


Colevrak


Renders

Tenkeyless (Filco Majestouch 2)


1800 (Leopold FC980M)


75% (Vortex Race 3)


Numpad (Ducky Pocket)


40% (Vortex Core, TheVan Minivan, OLKB Planck)


Ergo (PrimeKB Prime_E)


Macro (RAMA M10-A)


Our inspiration (TI-30Xa)



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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 10 April 2019, 15:43:01 »
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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 10 April 2019, 15:45:28 »
So happy to see this, Hopefully I can get a set.

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 10 April 2019, 15:48:23 »
Already ordered my kits! Hope they all hit MOQ!

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 10 April 2019, 15:59:15 »
So, as mentioned in the original IC thread:
  • There is an additional (not shown) 1u 'Fn' key in the TKL + Specialty kit, the render will be updated eventually
  • We may re-add the teal '=' to the Numpad kit (depending on price and order quantity)
These are very minor changes that should not be deal-breakers for anyone. No other change to the kits will be made.


About the proxies: it will a couple of days until our Europe (mykeyboard.eu) and Asia (zFrontier) proxies are up. Very sorry about that!

Please feel free to ask any question about compatibility for your particular keyboard or anything else, eg. issues with your vendor, etc.

Cheers!

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 10 April 2019, 16:05:49 »
So happy to see this, Hopefully I can get a set.

Already ordered my kits! Hope they all hit MOQ!

Thanks for the support! ;D

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 10 April 2019, 16:37:38 »
Ordered (even though my scientific calculator is a Casio).

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 00:43:56 »
Asking again, sorry if itís obvious. What kit(s) are pictured with the prime_e? I know itís not in existence yet but I wanted to check if Iíd have it covered lol.


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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 01:46:03 »
Finally here.
| LIVING THE 1800 LIFE |

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 02:05:46 »
When the ZFrontier page is up (assuming they haven't included a price premium like they have for some other sets recently -_-) I'll be in 👍

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 04:37:48 »
Hopefully this is still possible: Could the dark 1u "|\" from the ISO kit be added to ortho/40% as well?

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 06:07:59 »
Set looks nice. Will be sure to get in on this as soon as the EU proxy is up  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 06:38:01 »
Asking again, sorry if itís obvious. What kit(s) are pictured with the prime_e? I know itís not in existence yet but I wanted to check if Iíd have it covered lol.


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Hey!

For the Prime_E (as pictured) you need the following kits:
  • Alphas
  • Ortho + 40%
  • Novelties


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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 08:54:26 »
Exciting, this might be my first custom keycap set and first GB. Also waiting for the EU website.

Is there a fixed stock count on these, or will whatever gets ordered until May 10th get produced and shipped? (provided it meets MOQ, I assume?)

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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 08:56:21 »
Exciting, this might be my first custom keycap set and first GB. Also waiting for the EU website.

Is there a fixed stock count on these, or will whatever gets ordered until May 10th get produced and shipped? (provided it meets MOQ, I assume?)

It is the latter. Whatever is ordered is what is produced so long as it reaches MOQ. So itís not a rush but the earlier you get your order in the easier it is to determine what will reach MOQ.

Youíve picked a damn fine GB to join for your first one!

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 09:44:19 »
Exciting, this might be my first custom keycap set and first GB. Also waiting for the EU website.

Is there a fixed stock count on these, or will whatever gets ordered until May 10th get produced and shipped? (provided it meets MOQ, I assume?)

It is the latter. Whatever is ordered is what is produced so long as it reaches MOQ. So itís not a rush but the earlier you get your order in the easier it is to determine what will reach MOQ.

Youíve picked a damn fine GB to join for your first one!

Thanks, I'm really pumped! First time trying DSA as well :)

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 10:20:02 »
Exciting, this might be my first custom keycap set and first GB. Also waiting for the EU website.

Is there a fixed stock count on these, or will whatever gets ordered until May 10th get produced and shipped? (provided it meets MOQ, I assume?)

It is the latter. Whatever is ordered is what is produced so long as it reaches MOQ. So itís not a rush but the earlier you get your order in the easier it is to determine what will reach MOQ.

Youíve picked a damn fine GB to join for your first one!

Thanks, I'm really pumped! First time trying DSA as well :)

Same here on both accounts (first DSA and first GB) - this set is just too nice to pass up, that teal colour is pure magic. Hope we hit MOQ!

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 11:13:40 »
The only other 2.25 is in the Ortho kit, correct? Just want to make sure Iím not missing something.

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 11:46:04 »
The only other 2.25 is in the Ortho kit, correct? Just want to make sure Iím not missing something.

The two Enter keys in TKL and the blank space in 40%. Yes

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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 14:08:59 »
The only other 2.25 is in the Ortho kit, correct? Just want to make sure Iím not missing something.

The two Enter keys in TKL and the blank space in 40%. Yes

Thanks! Not sure how I missed them in the TLK. Wish the M0110 didnít have such odd sized mods but I think I can make this work. Will just have two enters instead of two shifts.

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 14:15:39 »
The only other 2.25 is in the Ortho kit, correct? Just want to make sure Iím not missing something.

The two Enter keys in TKL and the blank space in 40%. Yes

Thanks! Not sure how I missed them in the TLK. Wish the M0110 didnít have such odd sized mods but I think I can make this work. Will just have two enters instead of two shifts.

Yeah... wanted to include it but those big pieces are super expensive.  :eek:

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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 14:50:11 »
The only other 2.25 is in the Ortho kit, correct? Just want to make sure Iím not missing something.

The two Enter keys in TKL and the blank space in 40%. Yes

Thanks! Not sure how I missed them in the TLK. Wish the M0110 didnít have such odd sized mods but I think I can make this work. Will just have two enters instead of two shifts.

Yeah... wanted to include it but those big pieces are super expensive.  :eek:

All good! I think I have some GSF blanks. Not sure how far off it is from GB but they seem pretty close.

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:20:18 »
Okay, the flickr bandwidth limit is crap! Will re-host the renders elsewhere...

Edit: done
« Last Edit: Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:57:44 by voodoo6k »

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 12 April 2019, 08:19:27 »
Hopefully this is still possible: Could the dark 1u "|\" from the ISO kit be added to ortho/40% as well?

@voodoo6k I was wondering if you had seen my question? I understand if it's too late, but wanted to check.

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« Reply #24 on: Fri, 12 April 2019, 08:21:09 »
Such a excellent set. Soon as the EU proxy is up I'll be joining!

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 12 April 2019, 08:57:40 »
Hopefully this is still possible: Could the dark 1u "|\" from the ISO kit be added to ortho/40% as well?

@voodoo6k I was wondering if you had seen my question? I understand if it's too late, but wanted to check.

Hopefully this is still possible: Could the dark 1u "|\" from the ISO kit be added to ortho/40% as well?

Sorry about that. The reason why we added the Fn key (and maybe '=') is because they were removed by mistake.

There's no dark '|\' key because it's not part of the default Planck layout (on which the ortho kit is based). That's just where I drew the line. Also, no one suggested it during the IC. In hindsight, maybe I would include it.

Like I said, one 1u is not much, but if we add another, and another... it quickly gets out of hand.

There is a grey 1u '|\' hiding in the alphas, in case you hadn't noticed. And if you realllly need a dark one, then there's always the ISO kit :( It's not impossible that someone who doesn't need theirs can sell it to you.


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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 12 April 2019, 09:11:38 »
There's no dark '|\' key because it's not part of the default Planck layout (on which the ortho kit is based). That's just where I drew the line.

Thanks. Totally understandable. I have noticed this is often the missing key, so I guess my layout is exceptional. I would expect users of a Preonic users or any split with thumb keys to put the pipe key there. No matter, I can maybe buy it of someone else or just put a novelty there.

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 13 April 2019, 12:17:20 »
Proud to announce that Colevrak has hit MOQ :cool:

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« Reply #28 on: Sat, 13 April 2019, 12:29:38 »
Proud to announce that Colevrak has hit MOQ :cool:

haha awesome :D do we get a price drop for it with more sales? I still haven't put my order in, not sure what zfrontier is doing...

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 00:14:58 »
Just bought my kits, looks awesome. Actually still my calculator that goes with this set :)

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 06:27:42 »
Hi! I'd really like to get my hands on this keyset but being based in Asia should I wait for the Asia proxy to go up or order it from the key dot co?

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 11:19:55 »
Just bought my kits, looks awesome. Actually still my calculator that goes with this set :)

Great :)

Hi! I'd really like to get my hands on this keyset but being based in Asia should I wait for the Asia proxy to go up or order it from the key dot co?

I would wait a bit. When zFrontier is up, you can compare. I will update as soon as I have more info.


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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 11:23:17 »
Proud to announce that Colevrak has hit MOQ :cool:

haha awesome :D do we get a price drop for it with more sales? [...]

For the Colevrak kit specifically? About Ę15 per tier. Not worth it, imo.  :))

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 11:35:50 »
Any news on when the EU proxy will be up?

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 15:12:10 »
Joined! Ordered Alphas, TKL+Specialty, Ortho+40's, Numpad and Novelties.

Thanks voodoo! Can't wait to receive the sets!

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« Reply #35 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 08:58:20 »
Joined! Ordered Alphas, TKL+Specialty, Ortho+40's, Numpad and Novelties.

Thanks voodoo! Can't wait to receive the sets!

Awesome :thumb:

Any news on when the EU proxy will be up?

Mykeyboard.eu seems to be up!

Again, I will update as soon as I have more info on zF.

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 11:14:55 »
Any news on when the EU proxy will be up?

Mykeyboard.eu seems to be up!

Again, I will update as soon as I have more info on zF.

And mykeyboard.eu is about 30-40% more expensive than US... again  :(
MOQ means Minimum Order Quantity. You either reach it or you don't, there's no "pushing for higher MOQ", just pushing for more orders.

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 11:27:50 »
Any news on when the EU proxy will be up?

Mykeyboard.eu seems to be up!

Again, I will update as soon as I have more info on zF.

And mykeyboard.eu is about 30-40% more expensive than US... again  :(

I believe it includes VAT which is over 20%...


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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 11:29:56 »
Right, I did the calculation and it would come about the same price ordering from the US and paying import fees and tax.

It just makes me wonder what the advantage of a proxy is in that case.

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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 11:39:42 »
Right, I did the calculation and it would come about the same price ordering from the US and paying import fees and tax.

It just makes me wonder what the advantage of a proxy is in that case.

Probably reduces and simplifies customs fees. Iím definitely more comfortable buying from a EU proxy, especially if the price is essentially the same.

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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 12:22:28 »
Right, I did the calculation and it would come about the same price ordering from the US and paying import fees and tax.

It just makes me wonder what the advantage of a proxy is in that case.

Probably reduces and simplifies customs fees. Iím definitely more comfortable buying from a EU proxy, especially if the price is essentially the same.

Definitely.

Right, I did the calculation and it would come about the same price ordering from the US and paying import fees and tax.

It just makes me wonder what the advantage of a proxy is in that case.


I'm looking into it with TKC. But...

From my experience with the Canadian proxy, if I were to charge in Canadian dollars, then the price goes up 3% automatically. Beyond a certain order quantity, I would have to charge 10% more in taxes. Shipping from the manufacturer to Canada is also more expensive (let alone Europe); since we sell fewer kits, I have to take that penalty. In this case, Canadian buyers save on shipping, taxes and duties.

However, a full-fledged business has to charge full taxes (in Canada, at least). Prices listed on mykeyboard.eu include VAT. There is also duties and handling fees related to importing.

If the price is roughly the same as buying directly, then you win because 1. you get more reliable shipping (imagine 50+ packages crossing the ocean, versus one). Your local proxy has access to and is more familiar with the local carriers. 2. Service at proximity is always preferable in case anything goes wrong. Not to mention that our EU and Asia proxies are reputable businesses used to this kind of thing.

I would expect a smoother experience, overall.

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 12:32:06 »
Our progress so far:





Thanks to dvorcol for these amazing graphs!

Edit: updated to new format
« Last Edit: Wed, 08 May 2019, 07:23:58 by voodoo6k »

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« Reply #42 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 13:56:58 »
Thanks for all the work you've put in Voodoo! Just bought alphas and 40% from mykeyboard, was really on the fence for the novelties... might go back and buy later...

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« Reply #43 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 14:21:56 »
Decided to build my orho layout with novelties and numpad instead of ortho kit.

Ordered at mykeyboard.eu. looking forward to this set!

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« Reply #44 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 15:15:21 »
Hoping to get two friends on board for the ISO and NorDe kits, will put the order in soon. Would be so disappointed if this kit doesnít reach MOQ for those :/

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 16 April 2019, 15:40:02 »
Have joined via mykeyboard.eu. Hoping that the norde kit will hit MOQ.

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 17 April 2019, 02:21:34 »
RIP, I forgot the prices in the US don't include VAT. Joined for alphas and 40s (very well done 40s kit btw :thumb: ), my first keycap GB, pretty hyped
MOQ means Minimum Order Quantity. You either reach it or you don't, there's no "pushing for higher MOQ", just pushing for more orders.

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 17 April 2019, 10:41:37 »
Hi! I'd really like to get my hands on this keyset but being based in Asia should I wait for the Asia proxy to go up or order it from the key dot co?

I would wait a bit. When zFrontier is up, you can compare. I will update as soon as I have more info.

Okay I'll wait for zFrontier then! Can't wait!  :)

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 17 April 2019, 11:08:21 »
Hi! I'd really like to get my hands on this keyset but being based in Asia should I wait for the Asia proxy to go up or order it from the key dot co?

I would wait a bit. When zFrontier is up, you can compare. I will update as soon as I have more info.

Okay I'll wait for zFrontier then! Can't wait!  :)

Last info I got from TKC/zFrontier is they are setting things up and should open this Friday or Saturday. That's a 3 week window until GB close.

Although I would recommend ordering from your nearest vendor, I asked TKC and they are able to fulfill international orders.

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Re: [GB] DSA Scientific
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 18 April 2019, 12:24:52 »
Progress update:



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