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Offline Tennstrong

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Re: Tsuka60 - the Katana60 v2 PCB Interest Check [IC]
« Reply #100 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 19:07:15 »
Would it be possible to add breakout support for gonnoc's trackpoint module? I feel like this would be nearly the perfect use case on the bottom row. https://github.com/sekigon-gonnoc/LevelConverterForTrackballModule



AFAIK it doesn't require modifications further than the breakout support as the sensor (PAW3204) can rest in a single switch slot, with the module sitting between plate and pcb.

Edit: Changelog for the choco60 to add  https://github.com/shinoaliceKabocha/choco60_track/commit/4ea73b0fdc7a779b506713fedb874a8f848d6bef#diff-ef8462a2fd19505be9b755c3d953a2bc , from what I can tell it didn't require any physical modifications, but I could be wrong

Cheers!
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Offline RominRonin

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Re: Tsuka60 - the Katana60 v2 PCB Interest Check [IC]
« Reply #101 on: Tue, 12 May 2020, 12:05:47 »
RominRonin, it looks like you have spent lots oftime with a different layouts. I highly inspired with katana60 keyboard. Inspite of the fact I prefer to have an F keys.
I try to do same but with a russian, that cause some more difficulties by the reason of more letters.
Don't you ever think about russian layout?

I took a look at the Russian layout after reading your posts, it's quite complicated!

Honestly, I think the Katana60 is better suited for the Russian layout - you could make use of all those extra keys in the middle of the keyboard for the extra characters.

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Hah!

I received the switch plate from laserboost.com today, I have to solder the latest prototype up, but here is what it will look like when it's done:



I have to say I am really loving this bottom row, the thumb keys (inner option keys) are in exactly the right place, so you only need a short extension or contraction of the thumb to hit the neighbouring keys. Very nice.

Once I solder the PCB, re-test it and update the firmware, the board will basically be ready. Unless...

Would it be possible to add breakout support for gonnoc's trackpoint module? I feel like this would be nearly the perfect use case on the bottom row. https://github.com/sekigon-gonnoc/LevelConverterForTrackballModule

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AFAIK it doesn't require modifications further than the breakout support as the sensor (PAW3204) can rest in a single switch slot, with the module sitting between plate and pcb.
Show Image


Edit: Changelog for the choco60 to add  https://github.com/shinoaliceKabocha/choco60_track/commit/4ea73b0fdc7a779b506713fedb874a8f848d6bef#diff-ef8462a2fd19505be9b755c3d953a2bc , from what I can tell it didn't require any physical modifications, but I could be wrong

Cheers!


I hadn't heard of the trackpoint module, and the few websites I've found are not in English. It looks very interesting, can you please provide more information Tennstrong? Where can I buy one? Does it just fit in an MX sized hole in a switch plate? Does that potentially mean I can place a trackpoint anywhere I want (provided its wired into the controller through the pin breakouts)?

If it really is as simple as this, then I could add a quick update to the PCB before manufacturing, because quite a lot of people were interested in a trackpoint feature. But without more information, or some kind of support on integrating it, I'm hesitant to delay the Tsuka60 much further.

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Re: Tsuka60 - the Katana60 v2 PCB Interest Check [IC]
« Reply #102 on: Tue, 12 May 2020, 15:30:56 »
I hadn't heard of the trackpoint module, and the few websites I've found are not in English. It looks very interesting, can you please provide more information Tennstrong? Where can I buy one? Does it just fit in an MX sized hole in a switch plate? Does that potentially mean I can place a trackpoint anywhere I want (provided its wired into the controller through the pin breakouts)?

If it really is as simple as this, then I could add a quick update to the PCB before manufacturing, because quite a lot of people were interested in a trackpoint feature. But without more information, or some kind of support on integrating it, I'm hesitant to delay the Tsuka60 much further.
That'd be a treat!

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Offline greenjack

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Re: Tsuka60 - the Katana60 v2 PCB Interest Check [IC]
« Reply #103 on: Thu, 14 May 2020, 04:19:57 »
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Honestly, I think the Katana60 is better suited for the Russian layout - you could make use of all those extra keys in the middle of the keyboard for the extra characters.

At the first look i like that square brackets on their place (cause i have there the russian letters), however after some time spent with several version of layouts, I think you're right. The llayout I would go for is mmore close to the katana 60.

Offline RominRonin

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Re: Tsuka60 - the Katana60 v2 PCB Interest Check [IC]
« Reply #104 on: Thu, 14 May 2020, 05:44:47 »
I hadn't heard of the trackpoint module, and the few websites I've found are not in English. It looks very interesting, can you please provide more information Tennstrong? Where can I buy one? Does it just fit in an MX sized hole in a switch plate? Does that potentially mean I can place a trackpoint anywhere I want (provided its wired into the controller through the pin breakouts)?

If it really is as simple as this, then I could add a quick update to the PCB before manufacturing, because quite a lot of people were interested in a trackpoint feature. But without more information, or some kind of support on integrating it, I'm hesitant to delay the Tsuka60 much further.
That'd be a treat!
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Offline ungarida

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Re: Tsuka60 - the Katana60 v2 PCB Interest Check [IC]
« Reply #105 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 08:18:43 »
Hi RominRonin,
as you may remember I'm an happy Katana60 owner and really looking forward for a Tsuka60. Please let's make this happen within this horrible year, would be a wonderful good news to re-balance the year.

I was one of the trackball supporters, so I felt to spend some more time researching starting from this page:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ja&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fsekigon-gonnoc%2FLevelConverterForTrackballModule

I found some interesting Twitter threads:
https://twitter.com/shinoalice_kabo/status/1254796532840189952
https://twitter.com/elfmimi/status/1241640879191805952

Which led me to this blog post which shows a bit more details on such module:
https://blog-eng.yushakobo.jp/entry/2020/04/01/151617

So I asked to https://twitter.com/_gonnoc Twitter account help, let's see if we get some attention.

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Re: Tsuka60 - the Katana60 v2 PCB Interest Check [IC]
« Reply #106 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 08:24:40 »
Hi RominRonin,
as you may remember I'm an happy Katana60 owner and really looking forward for a Tsuka60. Please let's make this happen within this horrible year, would be a wonderful good news to re-balance the year.

I was one of the trackball supporters, so I felt to spend some more time researching starting from this page:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ja&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fsekigon-gonnoc%2FLevelConverterForTrackballModule

I found some interesting Twitter threads:
https://twitter.com/shinoalice_kabo/status/1254796532840189952
https://twitter.com/elfmimi/status/1241640879191805952

Which led me to this blog post which shows a bit more details on such module:
https://blog-eng.yushakobo.jp/entry/2020/04/01/151617

So I asked to https://twitter.com/_gonnoc Twitter account help, let's see if we get some attention.

That's great collection of resources! Thank you, my friend!
My boards: LAGOM 🐸-T | TMO50 FE | prototype TMOv2 | production TMOv2

Offline ungarida

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Re: Tsuka60 - the Katana60 v2 PCB Interest Check [IC]
« Reply #107 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 05:36:56 »
This is the online shop https://yushakobo.jp/shop/adtb7m/ where it is available at the cost of ~20EUR ... plus shipment from Japan which does not sound really cheap.