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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Oct 16 - More Renders
« Reply #100 on: Sat, 28 December 2019, 05:17:42 »
I like it! I love the idea you had for the novelties, fits well with the theme. Imo the words don't even need to be in the accent color or maybe just a slightly different shade of grey, so it's more of a hidden message.
I'd also be in favor of the split space kit, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if you have to cut it.

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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Jan 7 - More Renders / Kit Reorg
« Reply #101 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 13:22:04 »
Updated kits and got some renders for them.

In other news, I'm reconsidering KAM.  Mainly due to KAM Wraith having a matte finish, and seemingly easier to get a hold of.

I've revamped novelties to be more robust, IMO.

I've removed the red text in favor of using pastel accents.  I think it's more suited at the moment.

I'm also going to bring back the St Croce font for another set of alphas, making it optional.
So two sets of alphas: One fancy, one normal.
Will get some renders of these new alphas 'soon'.

Kits:
Alphas: Yep, here they are.


TKL:


Numpad: For those spreadsheet users:


ISO: For those dozens of folks:


40s + Ortho:  Combining these to help them meet moq.


Split Space: I'm personally a fan, but not a 40s user, so let's offer it separate.


Novelties:  For that ghost in your keyboard.  Note the font will be darker than normal alphas, but still on alpha colored caps:

« Last Edit: Tue, 07 January 2020, 13:46:04 by fireworm »

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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Jan 7 - More Renders / Kit Reorg
« Reply #102 on: Wed, 08 January 2020, 10:58:14 »
I love this set and the idea behind it! I wasn't around on GH since its inception but I've been hoping for an update from the moment I stumbled upon this thread!

I think XDA would be more suited than KAM for this set on account of it being more flat, but I have no hands-on experience with either profile, so ... I should get my hands on XDA keycaps soon though, which may change my mind.

Also, the novelties set has a "DON'T" but no "DO" key. Is this intentional ?

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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Jan 7 - More Renders / Kit Reorg
« Reply #103 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 21:17:47 »
Combining alphas and TKL and maybe removing or separating the alt colored mod keys would make this a day one join.

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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Jan 7 - More Renders / Kit Reorg
« Reply #104 on: Sun, 02 February 2020, 14:45:20 »
No homing kit to automatically support colevrak+? This is a flat profile, no?

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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Jan 7 - More Renders / Kit Reorg
« Reply #105 on: Mon, 03 February 2020, 15:05:19 »
No homing kit to automatically support colevrak+? This is a flat profile, no?
Switching to KAM makes this easier, and likely supported.

I love this set and the idea behind it! I wasn't around on GH since its inception but I've been hoping for an update from the moment I stumbled upon this thread!

I think XDA would be more suited than KAM for this set on account of it being more flat, but I have no hands-on experience with either profile, so ... I should get my hands on XDA keycaps soon though, which may change my mind.

Also, the novelties set has a "DON'T" but no "DO" key. Is this intentional ?
I'll give it a little thought; thanks for the feedback, thanks for the support!

Combining alphas and TKL and maybe removing or separating the alt colored mod keys would make this a day one join.
What makes combining more appealing than two kits (with the same keys)?  Alphas are split so you can buy Alphas + Ortho or Alphas + TKL.

FWIW, going to KAM means I can likely split out accents, and not worry about MOQ.

Sorry about delays here.  Working with vendors is taking longer than I anticipated, esp. with LNY / Virus.

I'm targeting Q2 for GB launch.

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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Jan 7 - More Renders / Kit Reorg
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 04 February 2020, 13:06:20 »
I'd be delighted to join this if KAM and Ortho kit is its own kit, regardless of how long it takes.

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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Jan 7 - More Renders / Kit Reorg
« Reply #107 on: Fri, 07 February 2020, 06:04:05 »
Just fond this IC.
As a colevrak user, KAM pleases me. As the way MOQ works makes a homing set for cloverak possible.

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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Jan 7 - More Renders / Kit Reorg
« Reply #108 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 12:53:26 »
A study in white:



Flash ON, Samsung Note 9.

I finally got in some color samples, and I wanted to compare to some white things I had lying around.

Short story, the base white I was using for the alphas is an impossible color, so I'm going to go down into lighter grays.  I'm gonna get more chips from SP, as well as a few Pantone plastic chips.  I'm also going to evaluate RAL colors, but worry a little bit, since I won't be able to get physical samples easily.

Longer story: I was planning on KAT Alpha as the base white, because for some reason, I thought it was white-white.  It's not.  The other color choices I made were based around this, so they are all off.  I poked around to see if anything else I had lying around was 'white'.  They are all not.  In fact, the MOD's appear bluer, and more 'white' than anything else here.  I was somewhat surprised at how yellow the yellow accent does appear, so I will likely keep it, or step it down to Carbon's creamy color.

Note that I consider all these 'white', but you can see how much they all vary.

Here's some more pics:

- Up close, flash.


- Cloudy day, no flash.

Also, here's a sample of the lightness I'm going for in the legends ('CAPS  *' is my choice):


It may help to print this out to verify.

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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Jan 7 - More Renders / Kit Reorg
« Reply #109 on: Thu, 02 April 2020, 22:48:02 »
Man I really would like an update on this.

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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Jan 7 - More Renders / Kit Reorg
« Reply #110 on: Thu, 02 April 2020, 23:25:43 »
Man I really would like an update on this.
Need some renders before I update. :)

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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Jan 7 - More Renders / Kit Reorg
« Reply #111 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 04:27:44 »
I really like the look of the XDA profile and would love a clean XDA set to try.  Watching this.
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Offline fireworm

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Re: [IC] XDA Ghost - Jan 7 - More Renders / Kit Reorg
« Reply #112 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 17:16:37 »
BIG Update!

Hello again!

After phasing in and out of existence on updates, I am elated to finally announce the following major updates:
KAM Profile
- Yes, I waffled about this a lot, but after some discussions, I've settled on this.  This will be the matte version, not the shiny one.
- This will let me have more flexiblility in the kits, so the stranger kits get made (UK ISO, ortho / 40s, mainly).

Kits and Kit Updates
- Detailed below.
- TLDR: Added some novelties, split TKL into two kits, added another Alpha kit.

GroupBuy opens Friday June 5th, 2020:
- NovelKeys - US
- zFrontier - China / Asia
- More coming!

Prices
Shooting for the 24k MOQ.
TBD

Renders:
Jane
Featuring St Croce Alphas and Accents:




More to come!

Kit details:

Alphas lose the spacebar; which is moved into the TKL kit




TKL is now split between two kits, one for the common 6.25u spacebar layout, and another for the slightly less common Tsangan 7u and other more unusual 7u layouts (with 1u ctrl / alt).




Additional Kits:
Well, inspiration struck during all this time...

- I really liked this font, but the mod kits were just too busy, so offering it by itself seems like a good compromise.
- I think they are something custom molds just wouldn't be able to offer, and work pretty well with the simpler mods (like a title / body in a magazine).


- Red plus another cool font
- Note these are Alpha base color (white), not Modifier color.
- Yes, another Poetry kit, but I chose more aggressive / emo / metal words for a few.


- More traditional accents, for those who don't care to write poetry.


- Mainly helping out compat on those weird layouts (atreus, etc.)
- Or just those folks who want blank KAM ortho layouts...?
- Also, you can use these to make your own novelties, if you feel so inclined!


- Oh, Jane 2 CE, you know you need that F13
- UK ISO, yep.  No St Croce version though.  Sorry.
- Colverak gets a stepped backspace, and homing keys in both alpha fonts.

Other Kits:
[Ergo Blanks]

- Confirmed gonna keep; waiting on some more renders.
- KAM means we are likely to actually make these!

Collaborations:
I have not lined anything up.

That's all I have for today!

More updates (like renders of keyboards with all the other kits) as things get closer to launch!
« Last Edit: Wed, 06 May 2020, 17:57:54 by fireworm »

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #113 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 18:47:24 »
I'm kinda bummed about the dark mods, actually. I really liked them all the same white. This reminds me way too much of DSA Granite.

Also, does KAM not have deep dish homing keys, just the bars?

Those are basically what's keeping me from being 100% in at this point.

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #114 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 19:15:04 »


I'm kinda bummed about the dark mods, actually. I really liked them all the same white. This reminds me way too much of DSA Granite.

Also, does KAM not have deep dish homing keys, just the bars?

Those are basically what's keeping me from being 100% in at this point.

Welp, all white would be SA Ice Cap! ;) The colors should be significantly lighter than DSA Granite, FWIW.

Unfortunately, I'm settled on the current colors.

I'll double check about deep dish.

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #115 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 23:52:37 »
Can you add one more 2.25u shift in the tkl kit to support 660 layouts? thx

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #116 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 01:05:53 »
I wish we could work together to put on end to 50$ Ortho/40s kits. If that's what I wanted out of life I'd join GMK group buys.

KAM Little Pilot Ortho kit was 15$


That said, I still love this.

Does this kit need to wait on Wraith production to finish? The factory seems to have delayed Wraith until almost end of 2020.

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #117 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 14:36:58 »
Can you add one more 2.25u shift in the tkl kit to support 660 layouts? thx

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It's in the TKL Compat kit.

I wish we could work together to put on end to 50$ Ortho/40s kits. If that's what I wanted out of life I'd join GMK group buys.

KAM Little Pilot Ortho kit was 15$


That said, I still love this.

Does this kit need to wait on Wraith production to finish? The factory seems to have delayed Wraith until almost end of 2020.

My goal for pricing is every covering any keyboard (Alphas + needed mods) for less than $100.  Ortho / 40's seemed like it just shared a LOT of 1u's, which is why I combined them.

Small update:
Also, I'm looking into a small tweak on the TKL sets.


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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #118 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:41:32 »
Any need for an EU vendor?

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #119 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 16:03:19 »
Added more renders:

910:
Featuring Alphas, Poetry, and Ire Accent




RAMA M60-A:
Featuring Alphas and Ire Poetry.



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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #120 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 20:18:57 »
Too bad can't write "ghost in the machine" with the novelties  ;D

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #121 on: Sun, 10 May 2020, 00:10:40 »
love what you've done with the St Croce Alphas, will have to get a milky board to use with my Ghost switches and this set!

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[IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #122 on: Sun, 10 May 2020, 13:01:45 »
On the Colevrak kit (thanks for having one!!!) you don't need the homing E. If you want to support really alternative layouts, that should be an A.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4Sy4ph1

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #123 on: Sun, 10 May 2020, 19:33:38 »
On the Colevrak kit (thanks for having one!!!) you don't need the homing E. If you want to support really alternative layouts, that should be an A.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4Sy4ph1

Yes, please add homing A to support Carpalx QGMLWY.

But keep homing E to support BÉPO, an alternate French layout.


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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #124 on: Sun, 10 May 2020, 19:36:36 »
On the Colevrak kit (thanks for having one!!!) you don't need the homing E. If you want to support really alternative layouts, that should be an A.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4Sy4ph1

Yes, please add homing A to support Carpalx QGMLWY.

But keep homing E to support BÉPO, an alternate French layout.

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Ima be real, half those words just look like random typing.

I'll look into adding A, for ATHUNE.

Hope people appreciate my stepped backspace. ;)

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #125 on: Sun, 10 May 2020, 19:44:03 »
love what you've done with the St Croce Alphas, will have to get a milky board to use with my Ghost switches and this set!
Thank you! I appreciate your support! They are definitely something I didn't have the heart to leave on the cutting room floor. KAM profile means we can likely get them made!
Too bad can't write "ghost in the machine" with the novelties  ;D
Maybe if sales are through the roof, those would be solid extras, or a good alt for the "enter" key.
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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #126 on: Sun, 10 May 2020, 19:55:09 »
On the Colevrak kit (thanks for having one!!!) you don't need the homing E. If you want to support really alternative layouts, that should be an A.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4Sy4ph1

Yes, please add homing A to support Carpalx QGMLWY.

But keep homing E to support BÉPO, an alternate French layout.

Show Image

Ima be real, half those words just look like random typing.

I'll look into adding A, for ATHUNE.

Hope people appreciate my stepped backspace. ;)

Here is the QGMLWY layout.


And here is the BÉPO layout (courtesy of Wikipedia).


Hoping this helps.

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #127 on: Sun, 10 May 2020, 19:59:43 »
On the Colevrak kit (thanks for having one!!!) you don't need the homing E. If you want to support really alternative layouts, that should be an A.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4Sy4ph1

Yes, please add homing A to support Carpalx QGMLWY.

But keep homing E to support BÉPO, an alternate French layout.

Show Image

Ima be real, half those words just look like random typing.

I'll look into adding A, for ATHUNE.

Hope people appreciate my stepped backspace. ;)

Here is the QGMLWY layout.
Show Image


And here is the BÉPO layout (courtesy of Wikipedia).
Show Image


Hoping this helps.
Thanks dvorcol. You are helpful, as always. :)

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #128 on: Mon, 11 May 2020, 17:20:31 »
Happy to announce new vendors:

- MyKeyboard.eu - Europe
- DailyClack - Australia
- QUAD-H | http://letsgetit.kr - South Korea
« Last Edit: Mon, 11 May 2020, 20:14:14 by fireworm »

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #129 on: Fri, 15 May 2020, 11:58:36 »
One more vendor:
- deskhero.ca - Canada

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #130 on: Sat, 16 May 2020, 22:20:27 »
nice set fireworm!

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #131 on: Wed, 20 May 2020, 12:39:33 »
Happy to announce pricing for NovelKeys.xyz:

TL;DR: Cover a TKL for $80 or less.

Alpha - Normal$35.00
Alpha - St Croce$35.00
TKL$45.00
TKL Compat$22.00
Alt Frow$15.00
Numpad$25.00
UK ISO$14.00
Split Space$15.00
40s$38.00
Poetry$22.00
Ire Poetry$22.00
Colverak Compat$14.00
Spacebars$18.00
Blanks(Alpha color)$15.00
Blanks(Mod color)$15.00
Ire Accent$14.00
Ergo Blanks $35.00

Additionally kits have slightly changed:
TKL gets the 7u spacebar, 1.75u shift, 1.5u backspace. And WKL mods (ctrl, alt, code). This makes TKL cover all common layouts (hhkb, winkey, winkeyless, 65).
UKISO gets the missing 1.25u shift.

Hopefully that means if you decide on a new layout, you will now be covered by TKL set instead of hunting for a spacebar + mods after gb is over.



« Last Edit: Thu, 21 May 2020, 10:50:32 by fireworm »

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - GB June 5th | TKL Covered for $80!
« Reply #132 on: Wed, 20 May 2020, 19:32:52 »
No price for St Croce Alphas or Ire Accent?

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - GB June 5th | TKL Covered for $80!
« Reply #133 on: Wed, 20 May 2020, 20:22:52 »
No price for St Croce Alphas or Ire Accent?

Ah, Ire Accent was mislabeled as Ire Nav: Fixed.

I'm triple checking on those prices, as I want to be sure Keyreative saw the kit, and it's not different from Alphas (since it's just the number of keys they should care about).  I'm under the impression it will be the same price as Alphas, but will update as soon as I have confirmation.

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - Big Update! GB Date Announced!
« Reply #134 on: Thu, 21 May 2020, 05:44:21 »


I'm kinda bummed about the dark mods, actually. I really liked them all the same white. This reminds me way too much of DSA Granite.


Welp, all white would be SA Ice Cap! ;) The colors should be significantly lighter than DSA Granite, FWIW.

Unfortunately, I'm settled on the current colors.

But SA Ice got dark legends. The classic black on black sets are all using the same color for the mods and alphas. That's for me the reason to not buy this set.

Personally that's killing it for me, I can't see another set anymore with the standard mods <> alphas color separation, but that's just me.

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - GB June 5th | TKL Covered for $80!
« Reply #135 on: Thu, 21 May 2020, 10:55:22 »
Few small updates:
Confirmed pricing on all sets.  Vendor pricing to come along shortly.

Confirmed no deep dish homing keys: Only homing bars.

Estimated shipping is Jan 2021.

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - GB June 5th | TKL Covered for $80!
« Reply #136 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 15:00:38 »
What's the difference between the poetry and Ire poetry kit listed in the price section?

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - GB June 5th | TKL Covered for $80!
« Reply #137 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 15:05:17 »
What's the difference between the poetry and Ire poetry kit listed in the price section?
Ire Poetry is the red text.


Poetry is the gray text (less aggressive).


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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - GB June 5th | TKL Covered for $80!
« Reply #138 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 16:17:56 »
Very nice update, and absolutely wonderful pricing!
Can't wait for this :)

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - GB June 5th | TKL Covered for $80!
« Reply #139 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 17:23:04 »
I'm a bit confused with the Split Space kit. It looks like there are (2) 1.75u and (2) 2.25 however if you're going to double up on anything here it should be (2) 2u instead. This is becoming more standardized with things like the Planck and Preonic and many other ortholinear boards nowadays. Can we get a second 2u space? Double 1.75u or 2.25u builds are relatively rare.
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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - May 6 - GB June 5th | TKL Covered for $80!
« Reply #140 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 17:42:01 »
I'm a bit confused with the Split Space kit. It looks like there are (2) 1.75u and (2) 2.25 however if you're going to double up on anything here it should be (2) 2u instead. This is becoming more standardized with things like the Planck and Preonic and many other ortholinear boards nowadays. Can we get a second 2u space? Double 1.75u or 2.25u builds are relatively rare.
Buying the split space and ortho will net you three 2u spacebars. Ortho has two 2u spacebars by itself (one alpha colored, one mod colored) .

Hope that works; kits are locked.

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Re: [IC] KAM Ghost - GB Open June 5th | TKL Covered for $80!
« Reply #141 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 10:30:00 »