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Offline wokechill

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[IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard - IC FORM POSTED!
« on: Sun, 02 June 2019, 17:54:08 »
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Hey Geekhack,

I've been working on 40% keyboard, and wanted to share my progress and get feedback. I am an avid 40-50% keyboard user, and while there are quite a few well-designed staggered boards around that size, I wanted to make something with the features and layout that suited me best. I wanted to combine the features of my favorite sub-60% boards to create a clean, high-quality board with a great sound, unexpected heft, and HHKB blockers. Behold: the Neuron!


Prototype Pictures:

220896-0
220898-1
220900-2
221080-3


Prototype Album (No PCB yet): https://imgur.com/a/AkaVN3k
Factory Album:https://imgur.com/a/dshEN9p


Supported Layouts:
220339-4
220902-5

Features:
  • 2.5 degree polycarbonate or anodized aluminum case. (No separate top and bottom piece: all one piece)
  • Top-mount plate available in sandblasted brass, anodized aluminum, or polycarbonate plate (and possibly acrylic with sufficient interest, holler at me).
  • 5mm thick brass wedge with NEURON engraving.
  • QMK-compatible black PCB designed by Worldspawn; on-board atmega with USB-C.
  • Supports full-size 6.25u or 2.25u/2.75u split space layouts. No ortho.
  • No fkn LEDs. No in-switch or RGB. Something something compatibility, get a Razer if you want that.
  • Aluminum case with brass plate version should weigh around 2.5 lbs.
  • Estimated cost $200-300.

The prototype has arrived, and is being evaluated now. PCB assembly orders have been placed, and I will test it extensively before any sale starts. There is no estimated GB start date as it currently stands, but I will update this post with relevant information as it becomes available. Let me know features you would like and I'll see what I can do.

Thanks for reading!
« Last Edit: Fri, 26 July 2019, 12:06:25 by wokechill »

Offline Ahngel

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 02 June 2019, 18:07:29 »
Nice! Definitely in for a pc case

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 02 June 2019, 18:30:30 »
Nice! Definitely in for a pc case

+1 for a PC case.

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 02 June 2019, 18:48:59 »
Wokeboi gimme keeb :zoomeyes:

Offline dingusxmcgee

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 02 June 2019, 18:58:40 »
I feel like Im going to have to get a second job with all these 40s this year :'(

Though I dont know if I can get rid of at least one key to the right of L. Gotta have my quotes/semicolon.

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 02 June 2019, 20:43:32 »
Handsome design. Would you consider (or consider supporting) swapping the spacebar keys so that the split is more centered under B?

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 02 June 2019, 20:50:34 »
I always wanted a poly board, perhaps this is the one. Looks great!

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 02 June 2019, 23:31:34 »
hotswap?

Offline victorpre

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 03 June 2019, 01:39:26 »
Seems a very fine design

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 03 June 2019, 02:34:01 »
would be very interested in a polycarbonate

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« Reply #10 on: Mon, 03 June 2019, 03:44:13 »
gimme gimme

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 03 June 2019, 09:54:29 »
hotswap?

i will have to test it. i dont want to add pegs to the PCB to support it from the bottom because it would reduce flex, so it would be an unsupported PCB held in purely by stabs and switches. PCB rev1 has been ordered to test, but maybe in the GB i could offer it as an option. no promises  ;D

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 04 June 2019, 01:05:37 »
ne leds avail?


Jk good looking board man. Thumbs

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 04 June 2019, 07:25:43 »
hotswap?

 Please, no. The 40% keyboard world has been completely overtaken by hotswap.

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 04 June 2019, 19:48:34 »
hotswap?

i will have to test it. i dont want to add pegs to the PCB to support it from the bottom because it would reduce flex, so it would be an unsupported PCB held in purely by stabs and switches. PCB rev1 has been ordered to test, but maybe in the GB i could offer it as an option. no promises  ;D

On my laptreus test board I did northfacing hotswaps, and south facing mx/alps/choc solder holes. It felt like a nice compromise and it makes testing things so easy since you have those solder holes or socket pads wide open even with a switch inserted! At the very least, putting the pads and holes on the pcb so others can solder it would be a lovely nod.

Incidentally, whos doing your pcb assembly? Im trying to find a good pcba shop.

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 09 June 2019, 00:16:14 »
Very interested

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard with Brass Weight
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 13 June 2019, 12:50:13 »
Incidentally, whos doing your pcb assembly? Im trying to find a good pcba shop.

i decided against our original manu and am comparing a new round of PCBA quotes. we are comparing elecrow and PCBway for PCBA currently, as they were recommended to me from other vendors and designers in the community. sound tests on the acrylic, polycarbonate, brass, and aluminum plates as soon as the PCBs arrive!

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard - PROTO PICS!
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 13 June 2019, 13:16:51 »
Prototype pics look awesome!

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard - PROTO PICS!
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 14 June 2019, 08:29:28 »
Looks amazing! In for the PC. Just wishing price tag is sub $250.

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard - PROTO PICS!
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 15 June 2019, 07:33:56 »
Very interested. Hope you can keep the price point on the lower end of that range.

What key set is that on the aluminum board? It looks quite nice.

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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 16 June 2019, 21:14:19 »
Totally interested if it's hotswap.

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard - PROTO PICS!
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 14:19:02 »
no hotswap. learn to solder.

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard - PROTO PICS!
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 03 July 2019, 15:38:23 »
Whatever happened, we miss you on the smolkeeb discord. Hope you come back soon  ;)
MOQ means Minimum Order Quantity. You either reach it or you don't, there's no "pushing for higher MOQ", just pushing for more orders.

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard - PROTO PICS!
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 23 July 2019, 13:33:19 »
hey everyone, a quick update. first off, im switching names from wokechill to walletburner. second, i've just started a 15 unit miniature run to test logistics before the big run sometime this fall. i picked die hard 40s users and some friends i know for testing, and once i know everything has gone smoothly, i'll launch the full group-buy. the goal at this point is to do 50 units of the aluminum case in 5 colors and 50 units of the polycarbonate case, with options for brass, acrylic and polycarbonate plates available, all with a thicc brass weight. there will also likely be 4mm (or 2mm for the acrylic) EVA foam inserts available for dampening between the PCB and plate. once the protos arrive, i will update this thread with pics. it's happening!

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard - PROTO PICS!
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 23 July 2019, 13:34:31 »
im switching names from wokechill to walletburner

just confirming from the other account right quick  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard - PROTO PICS!
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 23 July 2019, 13:40:52 »
Preferred Wokechill.
Duck Jetfire | Duck Eagle | Singa R2 | COD67 | TX75 | KBD75 (and more on the way... )

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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 23 July 2019, 13:51:18 »
Preferred Wokechill.

what about "the artist formerly known as wokechill", like Prince?

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard - PROTO PICS!
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 23 July 2019, 14:40:55 »
Protos look great and definitely excited for this one!

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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 23 July 2019, 20:26:40 »
Excited for proto to come!!!

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« Reply #29 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 06:16:56 »
Wow...another 40% keyboard. How do you guys type numbers?

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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 08:37:54 »
Wow...another 40% keyboard. How do you guys type numbers?
You basically implement new layers like with ctl alt and shift on every normal keyboard. See for example  https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6ov0lq/g_the_art_of_making_40_keymaps_that_arent_crap//

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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 08:49:05 »
Wow...another 40% keyboard. How do you guys type numbers?
You basically implement new layers like with ctl alt and shift on every normal keyboard. See for example  https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6ov0lq/g_the_art_of_making_40_keymaps_that_arent_crap//

Did you see the keyboard in my profile pic?

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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard - PROTO PICS!
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 09:07:07 »
Wow...another 40% keyboard. How do you guys type numbers?

easy: one, two, three, four, five, six, nine

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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 09:44:40 »
Lotta wooshing going on in here, lol. MikeTheTiger started the 40% Discord guys...
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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 11:35:04 »
How do you guys type numbers?

numbers r for nerds who even types a number in 2019 anyway \s, top troll, salute

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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 11:35:51 »
Lotta wooshing going on in here, lol. MikeTheTiger started the 40% Discord guys...

Wow who would've thought that maybe literally one person may not have known that x guy started y discord and actually tried to provide a helpful answer.

/r/woosh everybody! Haha!

Calm down.

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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 13:28:51 »
His avatar is a 40% board...
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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 14:09:32 »
Lotta wooshing going on in here, lol. MikeTheTiger started the 40% Discord guys...

Wow who would've thought that maybe literally one person may not have known that x guy started y discord and actually tried to provide a helpful answer.

/r/woosh everybody! Haha!

Calm down.
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Re: [IC] Neuron: Top Mount 40% Keyboard - PROTO PICS!
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 18:45:57 »
Not having a key to the left of L means no (standard) Colemak support. Real bummer.

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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 18:59:41 »
Not having a key to the left of L means no (standard) Colemak support. Real bummer.
Oof, good catch :(
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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 19:18:23 »
Not having a key to the left of L means no (standard) Colemak support. Real bummer.
Oof, good catch :(

Adding a column and adjusting the bottom row is the only solution I can see at the moment, and I don't think the designer would do this considering that changes basically everything. Especially given that he already has proto cases and pcbs.

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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 21:01:06 »
would look hot with dsa mardi gra

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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 26 July 2019, 09:28:05 »
 ;D
« Last Edit: Fri, 26 July 2019, 09:30:31 by wokechill »

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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 26 July 2019, 09:31:41 »
Not having a key to the left of L means no (standard) Colemak support. Real bummer.
Oof, good catch :(

Adding a column and adjusting the bottom row is the only solution I can see at the moment, and I don't think the designer would do this considering that changes basically everything. Especially given that he already has proto cases and pcbs.

when i designed the Neuron i wanted to make an upgraded version of the 12-column designs that had been made popular by the jd40 et al, but if you want colemak there are a few 45% boards like the jd45 and pearl that would suit your needs, but have their own tradeoffs. i'm definitely interested in exploring the layout permutations between 45 - 50% because i think there are some cool ideas in there that haven't been properly implemented, but it wouldn't be until way after Neuron. good luck finding a solid colemak 45%!