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Offline PheonixStarr

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | some good news, some bad news
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 14:20:02 »
Wouldn't that make polishing difficult in the future?

Polishing it is kind of an afterthought, to be honest. As dumb as it sounds, I want to say "just don't scratch your board" near the engraving. It wouldn't be too hard to buff out a nick somewhere else on the piece, though.

Offline Kevadu

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | some good news, some bad news
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 14:57:10 »
If you're going with polished stainless I kind of wish that was an option for the upper piece too for that full DeLorean look.

Offline SlurmsMacKenzie

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | some good news, some bad news
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 20:13:29 »
If you're going with polished stainless I kind of wish that was an option for the upper piece too for that full DeLorean look.

You can do the silver upper, I think it will look nice (see Keycult No 2 stainless steel)

Offline Surefoot

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | some good news, some bad news
« Reply #53 on: Sun, 10 November 2019, 12:35:42 »
In for ISO version. Come on ISO gang  :)

Offline hottrout

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | some good news, some bad news
« Reply #54 on: Mon, 11 November 2019, 08:24:01 »
In for ISO version. Come on ISO gang  :)

Yeah, I'm in the ISO gang.   Can we get our own logo and stuff :)
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Offline PheonixStarr

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | some good news, some bad news
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 11 November 2019, 19:38:22 »
In for ISO version. Come on ISO gang  :)

Yeah, I'm in the ISO gang.   Can we get our own logo and stuff :)

yes but no

Offline d00deitsnik

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | i put iso on it r u happy
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 11 November 2019, 23:05:56 »
Is a rose-gold polished steel base still an option? Or was that idea discarded? The thought of a shiny rose-gold bottom peaking out under a black top sounds magical.

Offline Robosculpts

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | i put iso on it r u happy
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 11 November 2019, 23:49:00 »
Is a rose-gold polished steel base still an option? Or was that idea discarded? The thought of a shiny rose-gold bottom peaking out under a black top sounds magical.

Right?!

Offline d00deitsnik

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | i put iso on it r u happy
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 02:24:27 »
Is a rose-gold polished steel base still an option? Or was that idea discarded? The thought of a shiny rose-gold bottom peaking out under a black top sounds magical.

Right?!
It's a dream board I never knew I wanted till you guys incepted me.

Offline hottrout

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | i put iso on it r u happy
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 03:37:20 »
11/11/19 On ANSI & ISO...

Alright, so I finished the PCB. The board will support ISO (both enter and left shift). There's been a decent number of respondents on ISO options, so I will be offering a carbon fiber ISO-only plate.


Woohoo ..... ISO FTW
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Offline noorejji

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | i put iso on it r u happy
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 08:59:15 »
Quote
(...) I will be offering a carbon fiber ISO-only plate.
Nice! In that case I suggest making it possible to use both big and small left shift, or just make it a universal plate. I don't think ISO users are as fussy about fixed plates, but I could be wrong.

Offline Gtrx

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | i put iso on it r u happy
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 09:06:34 »
have you though about including support for a split spacebar?

Offline Weaselpc

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | i put iso on it r u happy
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 09:10:56 »
nutty :D


Offline Turkishrambo

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | i put iso on it r u happy
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 13:55:00 »
Interested in Black or White.

Offline Surefoot

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | i put iso on it r u happy
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 15:23:21 »
Huzzah for ISO ! :)
I'd prefer a fixed plate if that is possible, and yeah CF or brass are both very fine.
This is looking good for a daily driver :)

Offline PheonixStarr

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | i put iso on it r u happy
« Reply #65 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 19:51:42 »
have you though about including support for a split spacebar?

no

Offline JinTea

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | i put iso on it r u happy
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 13 November 2019, 23:43:45 »
Losing the engraving's a bummer, but definitely not a deterrent. Really looking forward to how the kagami finish turns out.

Offline sozo

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 21 November 2019, 20:12:44 »
oof definitely going to try to get my hands on this one. One of the best looking boards I've seen to date

Offline Owl

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #68 on: Sat, 23 November 2019, 20:05:45 »
Stunning board. Love it. Sadly I wont be able to get my hands on one at that price point. Very beautiful though.

Offline Solotov

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #69 on: Sat, 23 November 2019, 22:15:36 »
What a stunning design. Can't wait for the prototypes.  :thumb:
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Offline tuxkey

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #71 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 16:16:08 »
amazing creation guys.. but way way out of my reach.. can't imagine having to pay shipping to The Netherlands then adding 11% custom fees and 21% VAT over the total that's including shipping. That would make this board well over $900..

But i can appreciate your creation and complement you  :thumb:

Offline clik_clak

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 16:37:55 »
Am I reading it correctly that the price is $750 for just the case, and the plate and pcb need to be purchased at an additional cost as extras? Or are you offering the extras at the additional cost?

Offline Robosculpts

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 17:52:37 »
Am I reading it correctly that the price is $750 for just the case, and the plate and pcb need to be purchased at an additional cost as extras? Or are you offering the extras at the additional cost?

$750 for everything. If you want an extra plate or pcb, it will cost extra.

Offline nodicaL

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #74 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 23:42:46 »
This is absolutely amazing.
I would love to get this for my first custom keyboard!

Offline prettydouchebag

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #75 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 12:47:42 »
Absolutely cannot wait for this GB to start!

Offline JCkingp1n

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #76 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 23:06:59 »
anyone got a clue whether or not the rotary encoder will work on a Mac? I get that programming the knob is probably a no but what about using it after it's been set up?

Offline dannyny

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #77 on: Sun, 08 December 2019, 23:13:07 »
awesome board. is it 750 for the board then $30 for the plate and $55 for the pcb or will the board come with one set of plate and pcb already?

Offline Quinella

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #78 on: Mon, 09 December 2019, 21:48:57 »
Keylace running out of ideas to steal from so i guess its time to steal some packaging/box designs too for Hailey
damn this is gonna be one big thot of a board.

https://imgur.com/a/K91Sesb



Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 08:42:28 »
Keylace running out of ideas to steal from so i guess its time to steal some packaging/box designs too for Hailey
damn this is gonna be one big thot of a board.

https://imgur.com/a/K91Sesb


HAHAHA. At this point I'm not even surprised anymore. Looks like its time to chuck someone in the ol' blacklist

Offline Robosculpts

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #80 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 09:00:22 »
Keylace running out of ideas to steal from so i guess its time to steal some packaging/box designs too for Hailey
damn this is gonna be one big thot of a board.

https://imgur.com/a/K91Sesb


HAHAHA. At this point I'm not even surprised anymore. Looks like its time to chuck someone in the ol' blacklist

I don't understand, is this keyboard design stolen?

Offline dydy124

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #81 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 09:23:05 »
Will be following the updates! Keep it up!

Offline Steezus

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #82 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 09:23:38 »
Keylace running out of ideas to steal from so i guess its time to steal some packaging/box designs too for Hailey
damn this is gonna be one big thot of a board.

https://imgur.com/a/K91Sesb


HAHAHA. At this point I'm not even surprised anymore. Looks like its time to chuck someone in the ol' blacklist

I don't understand, is this keyboard design stolen?

From my understanding after reading the Cygnus GB thread, it appears that PheonixStarr was commissioned to design a PCB for Bisoromi's function row-less TKL project. Instead of doing so, PhoenixStarr never shipped the PCBs and decided to start a group buy for their own function row-less TKL project. Apparently they are trying to take orders while still having a large sum of cash frozen in their PayPal account. This is why you see various comments of people talking about stealing designs on all PheonixStarr threads. This is just an amalgamation of points brought up in the Cygnus GB page. I'm sure there are other points that I failed to bring up as well. If you'd like to know more or continue the discussion about the Cygnus then head on over to the GB thread.
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Offline SlurmsMacKenzie

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #83 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 10:07:45 »
Keylace running out of ideas to steal from so i guess its time to steal some packaging/box designs too for Hailey
damn this is gonna be one big thot of a board.

https://imgur.com/a/K91Sesb


HAHAHA. At this point I'm not even surprised anymore. Looks like its time to chuck someone in the ol' blacklist

I don't understand, is this keyboard design stolen?

From my understanding after reading the Cygnus GB thread, it appears that PheonixStarr was commissioned to design a PCB for Bisoromi's function row-less TKL project. Instead of doing so, PhoenixStarr never shipped the PCBs and decided to start a group buy for their own function row-less TKL project. Apparently they are trying to take orders while still having a large sum of cash frozen in their PayPal account. This is why you see various comments of people talking about stealing designs on all PheonixStarr threads. This is just an amalgamation of points brought up in the Cygnus GB page. I'm sure there are other points that I failed to bring up as well. If you'd like to know more or continue the discussion about the Cygnus then head on over to the GB thread.

Don't want to derail too much, but that is the accusation.

For OP's part, they have claimed that they were working on Cygnus prior to the commission and it was a coincidence. They posted an image of their Fusion renders that dates back to March.  I don't actually know the timeframe or more details for this particular issue.

The PayPal thing I wrote a post in the Cygnus GB thread that summarizes the issue. I suppose that is relevant here as well I can rehash it if desired.

Edit: sorry it was in the IC thread, here is a copy:

The $14k thing... basically what happened was that there was, not sure what to call it, maybe an unadvertised soft launch, of the website where some early orders of the Cygnus and a different board were allowed.  This was halted after a day, I believe the main reason was sales were higher than expected. It appears OP intended / expected just a couple of people to order and was not comfortable with too many orders.

Maybe a week later, the payment processing company (Square) locked and closed the account.  According to OP, the Square account was not new and was used before, however the guesses given were either the larger amount of money, or the fact that there were several international sales that may have set off red flags.  In any case, When this happens, Square locks the money for 90 days, no exceptions apparently, which would be February. OP has also stated that Square shuts off all customer service after locking the account, so there is no way to allow for refunds.

There are some Cygnus orders in there, however the vast majority of the funds are from the other board.

The payment processor was switched to a new one. OP has reported that they have discussed the business model with the new company before opening the account in the hopes to avoid the same problem.

Currently, it has been stated that previous Cygnus preorders are being honored despite not having access to funds (OP will front the cash until funds get released).

The other board is being delayed until the funds are released.

This is all according to what OP has said.  There are some risks here of course, so it's up to you to decide.

Edit #2: If it's not obvious, the "other board" is the Hailey.  If what OP says is true, then the funds will be unfrozen by the time the Hailey GB starts.
« Last Edit: Tue, 10 December 2019, 10:21:55 by SlurmsMacKenzie »

Offline Robosculpts

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #84 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 10:21:04 »
Keylace running out of ideas to steal from so i guess its time to steal some packaging/box designs too for Hailey
damn this is gonna be one big thot of a board.

https://imgur.com/a/K91Sesb


HAHAHA. At this point I'm not even surprised anymore. Looks like its time to chuck someone in the ol' blacklist

I don't understand, is this keyboard design stolen?

From my understanding after reading the Cygnus GB thread, it appears that PheonixStarr was commissioned to design a PCB for Bisoromi's function row-less TKL project. Instead of doing so, PhoenixStarr never shipped the PCBs and decided to start a group buy for their own function row-less TKL project. Apparently they are trying to take orders while still having a large sum of cash frozen in their PayPal account. This is why you see various comments of people talking about stealing designs on all PheonixStarr threads. This is just an amalgamation of points brought up in the Cygnus GB page. I'm sure there are other points that I failed to bring up as well. If you'd like to know more or continue the discussion about the Cygnus then head on over to the GB thread.

Don't want to derail too much, but that is the accusation.

For OP's part, they have claimed that they were working on Cygnus prior to the commission and it was a coincidence. They posted an image of their Fusion renders that dates back to March.  I don't actually know the timeframe or more details for this particular issue.

The PayPal thing I wrote a post in the Cygnus GB thread that summarizes the issue. I suppose that is relevant here as well I can rehash it if desired.

Edit: sorry it was in the IC thread, here is a copy:

The $14k thing... basically what happened was that there was, not sure what to call it, maybe an unadvertised soft launch, of the website where some early orders of the Cygnus and a different board were allowed.  This was halted after a day, I believe the main reason was sales were higher than expected. It appears OP intended / expected just a couple of people to order and was not comfortable with too many orders.

Maybe a week later, the payment processing company (Square) locked and closed the account.  According to OP, the Square account was not new and was used before, however the guesses given were either the larger amount of money, or the fact that there were several international sales that may have set off red flags.  In any case, When this happens, Square locks the money for 90 days, no exceptions apparently, which would be February. OP has also stated that Square shuts off all customer service after locking the account, so there is no way to allow for refunds.

There are some Cygnus orders in there, however the vast majority of the funds are from the other board.

The payment processor was switched to a new one. OP has reported that they have discussed the business model with the new company before opening the account in the hopes to avoid the same problem.

Currently, it has been stated that previous Cygnus preorders are being honored despite not having access to funds (OP will front the cash until funds get released).

The other board is being delayed until the funds are released.

This is all according to what OP has said.  There are some risks here of course, so it's up to you to decide.

Dang. Stuff like this gets me spooked about groups buys.

Offline Kokaloo

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #85 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 10:37:33 »
i daily iris and idb

Offline Steezus

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #86 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 11:19:36 »
More
Keylace running out of ideas to steal from so i guess its time to steal some packaging/box designs too for Hailey
damn this is gonna be one big thot of a board.

https://imgur.com/a/K91Sesb


HAHAHA. At this point I'm not even surprised anymore. Looks like its time to chuck someone in the ol' blacklist

I don't understand, is this keyboard design stolen?

From my understanding after reading the Cygnus GB thread, it appears that PheonixStarr was commissioned to design a PCB for Bisoromi's function row-less TKL project. Instead of doing so, PhoenixStarr never shipped the PCBs and decided to start a group buy for their own function row-less TKL project. Apparently they are trying to take orders while still having a large sum of cash frozen in their PayPal account. This is why you see various comments of people talking about stealing designs on all PheonixStarr threads. This is just an amalgamation of points brought up in the Cygnus GB page. I'm sure there are other points that I failed to bring up as well. If you'd like to know more or continue the discussion about the Cygnus then head on over to the GB thread.

Don't want to derail too much, but that is the accusation.

For OP's part, they have claimed that they were working on Cygnus prior to the commission and it was a coincidence. They posted an image of their Fusion renders that dates back to March.  I don't actually know the timeframe or more details for this particular issue.

The PayPal thing I wrote a post in the Cygnus GB thread that summarizes the issue. I suppose that is relevant here as well I can rehash it if desired.

Edit: sorry it was in the IC thread, here is a copy:

The $14k thing... basically what happened was that there was, not sure what to call it, maybe an unadvertised soft launch, of the website where some early orders of the Cygnus and a different board were allowed.  This was halted after a day, I believe the main reason was sales were higher than expected. It appears OP intended / expected just a couple of people to order and was not comfortable with too many orders.

Maybe a week later, the payment processing company (Square) locked and closed the account.  According to OP, the Square account was not new and was used before, however the guesses given were either the larger amount of money, or the fact that there were several international sales that may have set off red flags.  In any case, When this happens, Square locks the money for 90 days, no exceptions apparently, which would be February. OP has also stated that Square shuts off all customer service after locking the account, so there is no way to allow for refunds.

There are some Cygnus orders in there, however the vast majority of the funds are from the other board.

The payment processor was switched to a new one. OP has reported that they have discussed the business model with the new company before opening the account in the hopes to avoid the same problem.

Currently, it has been stated that previous Cygnus preorders are being honored despite not having access to funds (OP will front the cash until funds get released).

The other board is being delayed until the funds are released.

This is all according to what OP has said.  There are some risks here of course, so it's up to you to decide.

Dang. Stuff like this gets me spooked about groups buys.

Even if all of this drama did not exist I would still be very hesitant. The GB runner is not very active in their own IC and GB threads. That alone is a red flag to me. However, don't let one rotten apple spoil the bunch for you. There is plenty of successful group buys out there. It is wise to do your due diligence before sending someone money.
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Offline steezkeez

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75% | Final price; New renders
« Reply #87 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 12:16:44 »
The amount of drama associated with this group buy is already a giant red flag to me. I would expect more peace of mind if I'm gonna be shelling out $750. Makes me appreciate guys like Keycult way more, since they actually give a **** about their customers.

Offline Rew23

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75%
« Reply #88 on: Mon, 16 December 2019, 00:26:09 »
Very interested.

Offline Pluto19

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75%
« Reply #89 on: Mon, 16 December 2019, 02:08:33 »
Surprised this hasn't been linked in here yet for any of those interested.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/e9tvia/an_apology_to_all/

Offline yap68

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Re: [IC] Hailey SS 75%
« Reply #90 on: Mon, 16 December 2019, 03:02:36 »
Hoping for a trusted vendor to pick this up and hold a full aluminium version GB because Hailey is truly very well designed.