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Offline scottwei

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Hello, friends of Geekhack,

We are excited to start the Group buy for G60. G60 is a retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard designed by Scott from the Basic I/O Instruments (BIOI). After obtaining feedback from the GH community in a previous IC, a successful trial run private GB, and a recent interest check, Scott has optimized many fine details, and we believe G60 warrants a full run at GH.












G60 + CF Plate +Rubber Gasket + Holy Panda: Typing test!

Instructions on using VIA configurator to set keymap for G60's dual-mode PCB



G60's key features are as follows.

1. The design is inspired by Cherry G80-3000 Series, the size is cut down to 60%.
2. Aluminum 6061
3. A variety of colors and premium color options available
4. Top-bottom case design
5. Compatible with both Top Mount and standard GH60 style tray mount
6. Compatible with most PCBs based on GH60 (via an included FPC extension kit)
7. High-performance QMK-based Bluetooth/USB Dual Mode PCB designed by BIOI
8. Compatible with both USB-C and USB-Mini
9. Multiple layouts compatibility
10. Optional plate material (PC, CF, Brass) and optional 4mm thick plates with perfect switch cutouts (alu, brass)
11. Internal brass weight to fill the battery slot if you don't like wireless
12. Designed by Scott from BIOI
13. Manufactured by ALF
14. Possiblity to add rubber gaskets to increase typing flex

Color Options




Layouts



Price

Base Kit (Case, 1.5mm anodized aluminum plate, and a dual-mode PCB):$298
Dual Mode PCB: No need Dual Mode PCB: -$42; Extra Dual Mode PCB: +$42
Premium Colorways: +$36
Plate Upgrade: Carbon Fiber:+$9; 4mm Aluminum Plate: +58; 4mm Brass Plate: +$78
Extra Plate: Extra Aluminum/PC Plate: +$20; Extra Carbon Fiber:+$28; Extra 4mm Aluminum Plate: +$78; Extra 4mm Brass Plate: +$98
Internal Brass Weight: +$38

the pricing excludes 5% payment fee and shipping via SF Express

Detailed options in the Google form.

Projected Timeline:
Group Buy: Jan 2 - Jan 31, 2019 Feb 15, 2019
Fulfillment: 4-5 months after GB payment collection
Shipping: Via SF Express.
Payment collection and shipping will be directly handled by Scott from BIOI.

Please kindly fill out the Group Buy Form: Click to Fill Out the G60 Group Buy Form

Forms submitted before pst 11:59pm Jan 7 will receive an automatic $10 discount.


Get instantly updated in G60's discord channel:
https://discordapp.com/channels/470454563799826453/489587683744677899/532287752629125120


Orders can be check here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Uc5DbftFkrow9kMdV-zjaNAkoEjvyF4uyKX8Gzlz8g/edit?usp=sharing

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 12:27:17 »
approved.

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 12:43:23 »
Yessssss so excited for this. In for NCR Gray.

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 12:45:12 »
in for NCR HHKB blockers :) nice work!

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 12:47:33 »
Yessssss so excited for this. In for NCR Gray.

HYPE  :eek:

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 12:50:18 »
Glad the GB is running so long - are there limited slots or can I wait a couple of weeks?

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 12:58:33 »
Hi there,

How will the Pearl White finish be applied? Good luck with the GB.

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 13:08:43 »
Beautiful board! Good luck with the group buy.

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 13:30:57 »
In!

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 15:01:34 »
Oooohhhh I'm definitely in! Since you seem to take an interest in applying old cherry style to new boards, what do you think about making a tkl version like this one?

Offline OnceS

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 15:35:06 »
How much does it weight ? If don't have and have Brass Weight?
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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 15:48:44 »
In for NCR Grey/White and a whole bunch of extras. Beyond stoked.

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 18:44:49 »
Forms submitted before pst 11:59pm Jan 7 will receive an automatic $10 discount!

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 19:18:56 »
4mm plate fits nicely with g60!!!

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 19:36:22 »
It has arrived!!!
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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 19:37:22 »
4mm plate fits nicely with g60!!!

(Attachment Link)

sorry for the newb question, but what are the advantages of the thick plate?

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 20:36:39 »
I would also like to know about how the premium colors are applied. Is the white powder coated or is it electrophoresis?

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 23:14:13 »
I would also like to know about how the premium colors are applied. Is the white powder coated or is it electrophoresis?

Only pearl white is using a proprietary technology with silky smooth surface, other colors are all anodization. The special colorways are new colors Scott ordered.

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 23:44:35 »
4mm plate fits nicely with g60!!!

(Attachment Link)

sorry for the newb question, but what are the advantages of the thick plate?

Its T H I C C :p

Depends what you like to type on. If its stiff, a little flex, sound etc.

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 02:07:59 »
Awesome to have the GB started.  :thumb:
The 4mm plate looks solid and promising.
     
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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 02:21:59 »
Is it possible to order one that is fully assembled?

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 03:48:25 »
Hi Scott, I really love the fact that this case is GH60-compatible.
I see that if I don't need the PCB, I can opt out and get a $42 "discount".
So my question is: If I also don't need the 1.5mm plate, can I get an even lower price? ;D
Because I want to put my current Alps build into this case, and I already have both the PCB and the custom-cut plate :)
Thanks.

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 03:54:44 »
4mm plate fits nicely with g60!!!

(Attachment Link)

sorry for the newb question, but what are the advantages of the thick plate?

Heavier and stiffer, if that's what you want.
I believe it'd be the opposite of a half-plate or a carbon-fiber one.

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 08:28:40 »
what weight are we looking at if we get the thick plate and the internal brass weight :O

board looks nice af
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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 09:21:03 »
In regards to the FPC extension kit, will it plug into a normal GH60 PCB's usb connector?

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 11:12:13 »
That looks awesome, and I have a bunch of questions.

  • Can you post supported layouts? Split space?
  • Are the layouts the same for all plate options?
  • Can you post a picture of the battery compartment? Does it interfere with the brass weight option?
  • Does the pcb support in-switch LEDs? Do you have pics or renders of the PCB for that matter?

Thank you!
« Last Edit: Sat, 05 January 2019, 11:17:30 by mike873 »

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 11:40:40 »
That looks awesome, and I have a bunch of questions.

  • Can you post supported layouts? Split space?
  • Are the layouts the same for all plate options?
  • Can you post a picture of the battery compartment? Does it interfere with the brass weight option?
  • Does the pcb support in-switch LEDs? Do you have pics or renders of the PCB for that matter?

Thank you!

Layouts answered in a previous thread which is already linked

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97324.msg2683622#msg2683622

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 15:21:56 »
This does look damn sweet, will have to see if my financials are OK to join a bit later this month.
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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 15:41:29 »
That looks awesome, and I have a bunch of questions.

  • Can you post supported layouts? Split space?
  • Are the layouts the same for all plate options?
  • Can you post a picture of the battery compartment? Does it interfere with the brass weight option?
  • Does the pcb support in-switch LEDs? Do you have pics or renders of the PCB for that matter?

Thank you!

Layouts answered in a previous thread which is already linked

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97324.msg2683622#msg2683622

Pics from ALF`s discord:

Prototype PCB Support in switch LED, ( OP correct me if i am wrong )

210030-0

The top part of the bottom case has a small notch/inlay, i guess its meant for the weight or the battery. ( OP correct me if i am wrong )

210032-1

( To note this the prototype and the cut in the bottom case where you see a brass plate has been removed and there is no cut/open bottom case )
« Last Edit: Sat, 05 January 2019, 15:46:41 by RETURNISO »

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #29 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 16:00:31 »
Isn't the cutout meant for BT reception?

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #30 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 16:49:14 »
Really debating if I want to buy into this or wait for a re-run of the Grid 600 case....both are exactly the thick, chunky type of frame I love in a 60%.

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 18:39:32 »
Really debating if I want to buy into this or wait for a re-run of the Grid 600 case....both are exactly the thick, chunky type of frame I love in a 60%.

I'm thinking of joining this too.  If I do join, I have a powder-coated white Grid with flash and classic modules that I'd be looking to get rid of.

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 20:35:34 »
Really debating if I want to buy into this or wait for a re-run of the Grid 600 case....both are exactly the thick, chunky type of frame I love in a 60%.

I'm thinking of joining this too.  If I do join, I have a powder-coated white Grid with flash and classic modules that I'd be looking to get rid of.
Ooooo! Nice. Ill message you about that.

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 23:09:17 »
Really debating if I want to buy into this or wait for a re-run of the Grid 600 case....both are exactly the thick, chunky type of frame I love in a 60%.

Trust Scott like I do. Haha. He is a keyboard wizard.

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 09:59:42 »
Hi Scott, I really love the fact that this case is GH60-compatible.
I see that if I don't need the PCB, I can opt out and get a $42 "discount".
So my question is: If I also don't need the 1.5mm plate, can I get an even lower price? ;D
Because I want to put my current Alps build into this case, and I already have both the PCB and the custom-cut plate :)
Thanks.

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Re: ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 10:01:57 »
Glad the GB is running so long - are there limited slots or can I wait a couple of weeks?

Thank you for considering G60! No limitations, You can take your time before the group buy ends

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 10:03:35 »
what weight are we looking at if we get the thick plate and the internal brass weight :O

board looks nice af

Near 2.5kg

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 10:06:40 »
In regards to the FPC extension kit, will it plug into a normal GH60 PCB's usb connector?

Of course! We got both mini and type-c plugs

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 10:21:10 »
Could I get an opinion on which colorway I should get to match GMK Shoko?

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 10:26:43 »
Could I get an opinion on which colorway I should get to match GMK Shoko?

Pearl white will do, I think

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 10:37:36 »
Could I get an opinion on which colorway I should get to match GMK Shoko?

Pearl white will do, I think

The pearl white has a yellowy tinge to it, right? Or will it look pure white in real life?

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 10:49:51 »
Could I get an opinion on which colorway I should get to match GMK Shoko?

Pearl white will do, I think

The pearl white has a yellowy tinge to it, right? Or will it look pure white in real life?

almost pure white

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 10:53:48 »
Could I get an opinion on which colorway I should get to match GMK Shoko?

I feel either pearl white or silver will match well

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 11:09:46 »
What color plate are you guys doing who pick NCR color?

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 12:28:34 »
I'm trying to determine which colour goes best with dev/tty and grey mods, any thoughts?

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 12:52:34 »
For the tray mount, how do the screw holes look like? Brass standoffs? Preinstalled? Asking because I had big trouble with the recent Dasher D60. 

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 13:44:51 »
Hmmm... I may have to get one of these...

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 14:38:08 »
In regards to the FPC extension kit, will it plug into a normal GH60 PCB's usb connector?

Of course! We got both mini and type-c plugs

Are these both included in the kit, or do we have to buy them separate?

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 18:41:05 »
In regards to the FPC extension kit, will it plug into a normal GH60 PCB's usb connector?

Of course! We got both mini and type-c plugs

Are these both included in the kit, or do we have to buy them separate?

both included

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Re: [GB]ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 19:22:29 »
I'm trying to determine which colour goes best with dev/tty and grey mods, any thoughts?

White.