Author Topic: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (closed)  (Read 70025 times)

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Offline steezkeez

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Not surprised at the popularity. For me, this was the perfect opportunity to try POM and the Alice form factor at a crazy affordable price. Super stoked for this!

Offline FinalEleven

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Dang, Missed out...I was hoping the gb would be open for at least a week so I can order it when my paycheck comes in. Ah well, I can wait for November. Might as well pick up an Alice PCB in the meantime

Offline worldspawn

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Finally got all the LEDs installed in the prototype!





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Offline saesh

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Looks great! Glad I chose the clear frosted bottom.

Do you mind posting a picture of how you soldered the LED strip to the board?

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Looks great! Glad I chose the clear frosted bottom.

Do you mind posting a picture of how you soldered the LED strip to the board?



I place the strip pads slightly overlapping the pads on the board and solder across.
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Offline saesh

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Perfect, thanks!

Offline Dovan1405

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Hey there when will we be able to grab  the plate and case files to cut on our own if possible :D


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Offline intellax

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I place the strip pads slightly overlapping the pads on the board and solder across.

Super excited for this board!  Any chance you can share which led strip you're using? This will be my first time adding underglow on my own.  Also, will the default firmware have LED support built in, or will we have to create our own firmware?

Thanks so much for all the work you've done on this board.

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迫不及待的看到它了

Offline worldspawn

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I place the strip pads slightly overlapping the pads on the board and solder across.

Super excited for this board!  Any chance you can share which led strip you're using? This will be my first time adding underglow on my own.  Also, will the default firmware have LED support built in, or will we have to create our own firmware?

Thanks so much for all the work you've done on this board.

It's standard WS2812B 5v strip, available on amazon, AliExpress, etc...

LED support is built into the firmware.
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Offline worldspawn

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Offline msting

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Fingers crossed for November! Have to watch that IC thread like a hawk.

Offline worldspawn

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Hey there when will we be able to grab  the plate and case files to cut on our own if possible :D


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Yeah, ping me when the GB ships and I'll send you a link for the plate and case files.
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Offline GraffitiDecos

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So I had an idea.
Would it be possible to have a set of holes on the front side of the bottom case for feet to accomodate negative angle (mirror of those already planned)? I think it would marry well with the ergonomics of this layout.
Would the usb port have enough clearance?

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Offline worldspawn

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So I had an idea.
Would it be possible to have a set of holes on the front side of the bottom case for feet to accomodate negative angle (mirror of those already planned)? I think it would marry well with the ergonomics of this layout.
Would the usb port have enough clearance?

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The USB port is pretty much right at the bottom, if you used small feet on the back and large ones on the front it would probably work, or maybe a 90° USBC cable so it doesn't protrude too far.
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Offline ywcsam

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Is it possible to modify the top and bottom piece to allow the screws to sink in like the one linked below?
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/d1t3l8/usfl_h_frosted_acrylic_alice_new_w_paypal/

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Can we get rid of the screw holes on top?
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Offline worldspawn

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Is it possible to modify the top and bottom piece to allow the screws to sink in like the one linked below?
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/d1t3l8/usfl_h_frosted_acrylic_alice_new_w_paypal/

Yep, feel free to grab a countersink and some flat head countersunk m3 screws.

Can we get rid of the screw holes on top?

Sorry, there's not really a good way to hold the case together without the screws coming through the top layer.
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Is it possible to modify the top and bottom piece to allow the screws to sink in like the one linked below?
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/d1t3l8/usfl_h_frosted_acrylic_alice_new_w_paypal/

Yep, feel free to grab a countersink and some flat head countersunk m3 screws.


What length for the m3 screws?

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Offline worldspawn

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10mm in the top and 6mm in the bottom.
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Offline ywcsam

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Is it possible to modify the top and bottom piece to allow the screws to sink in like the one linked below?
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/d1t3l8/usfl_h_frosted_acrylic_alice_new_w_paypal/

Yep, feel free to grab a countersink and some flat head countersunk m3 screws.


Any chance you can do that for us with a small fee? I don't want to buy like 50 screws just to use 4 of them, and I am worry that I might break the thing in the process of drilling  :-X

Offline terrad

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Is it possible to modify the top and bottom piece to allow the screws to sink in like the one linked below?
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/d1t3l8/usfl_h_frosted_acrylic_alice_new_w_paypal/

Yep, feel free to grab a countersink and some flat head countersunk m3 screws.


Any chance you can do that for us with a small fee? I don't want to buy like 50 screws just to use 4 of them, and I am worry that I might break the thing in the process of drilling  :-X
+1

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Offline juliandoucette

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I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the inconsistent zxcv row stagger (it's standard 0.5 left and non-standard 0.25 right). I prefer the non-standard 0.25 zxcv row (sometimes identified as/by 2u left shift) because I find it's a nice middle ground between the ergodox and standard stagger. And I'm happy that at-least the right side of this split board has that stagger because I type using the standard US dvorak layout where the right side is used more heavily than the left.

Offline worldspawn

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Quick update on the PCB, I managed to get a design worked out with the fab for what I really wanted, the pattern on the board is now ENIG Gold plate, matte black mask, and white silk! Please enjoy the images of the final prototype below:





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Offline Sorachi.Ace

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I'm really digging these colors over the red ones. This keyboard is going to look amazing.

Offline GraffitiDecos

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I'm really digging these colors over the red ones. This keyboard is going to look amazing.
My thoughts exactly, the red was so-so, and I mostly covered it with frosted case and white POM. Now I'm almost sad I didn't go clear - almost.

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Damn the gold looks amazing on that black PCB.
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Offline GraffitiDecos

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So, dumb question. Would you go with clip-in or screw in stabs? I've heard of screw-in causing shorts on some PCBs.

From my count, this requires, 5. Am I correct?

Thanks!

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So, dumb question. Would you go with clip-in or screw in stabs? I've heard of screw-in causing shorts on some PCBs.

From my count, this requires, 5. Am I correct?

Thanks!

The shorts are caused by the screws ending up on top of switch or LED pads, if you do use screw ins, make sure to use washers on the locations where the holes end up on pads (I think the 2u backspace is the only location where this may be an issue).  Yes, there are 5 at most, if you use a 2u backspace, 4 if you use the split option.
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Offline worldspawn

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PCB order has been placed, hardware ordered, and acrylic/POM sheet order has been placed with my local supplier.
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Offline steezkeez

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PCB order has been placed, hardware ordered, and acrylic/POM sheet order has been placed with my local supplier.

So stoked for this, appreciate the update!

Offline SteffeMK

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PCB order has been placed, hardware ordered, and acrylic/POM sheet order has been placed with my local supplier.
So hyped, just got the switches I will use!

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Offline worldspawn

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Fab currently estimates the PCB order will ship out on October 11th, will update as I get more info.
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Offline worldspawn

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Quick update, factory has given a revised shipping date on the PCBs for Oct 30
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Offline GraffitiDecos

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Quick update, factory has given a revised shipping date on the PCBs for Oct 30
Thanks for the update ! Two week push back, ooof.
Are the cases in production, or are you waiting of PCBs?
Thanks! :)

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Offline worldspawn

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Quick update, factory has given a revised shipping date on the PCBs for Oct 30
Thanks for the update ! Two week push back, ooof.
Are the cases in production, or are you waiting of PCBs?
Thanks! :)

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I've got the POM on hand now, ordered it first since my supplier doesn't carry it locally, Acrylic I'll pick up when I start cutting, which will probably be this coming week, hoping to have everything else done by the time the PCBs arrive.  Already have the packing materials and hardware in.  Lost a week of fab time to the holiday in China last week.
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Offline GraffitiDecos

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Quick update, factory has given a revised shipping date on the PCBs for Oct 30
Thanks for the update ! Two week push back, ooof.
Are the cases in production, or are you waiting of PCBs?
Thanks! :)

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I've got the POM on hand now, ordered it first since my supplier doesn't carry it locally, Acrylic I'll pick up when I start cutting, which will probably be this coming week, hoping to have everything else done by the time the PCBs arrive.  Already have the packing materials and hardware in.  Lost a week of fab time to the holiday in China last week.
No worries! Appreciate all the hard work!

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Offline danieljgrouse

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Can't wait for the eventual rerun, I wasn't able to order quickly enough the last time. Is there any chance we might get an option for this kind of a stepped effect in the next round? It gives sandwich cases a much more pleasant and premium look imo.

Offline Poblopuablo

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Any updates? I know the PCB is expected to get to you around the 30th. :)

Offline worldspawn

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That's it for now, I've started cutting the cases, hopefully everything will be ready to pack and ship when the PCBs arrive. Screws/standoffs, and packing materials/boxes are all in.
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Offline saesh

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Great. Thanks for the updates!

Offline ppnp253

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Any updates? PCB's still on schedule for the 30th? How's it going for QMK configurator?

Offline worldspawn

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No new news from the factory, so I assume they're still on target for the 30th, case production is ongoing.
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Following for round two

Offline SteffeMK

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Any updates on how it's going with qmk configurator?

Offline KuroTheCrazy

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No new news from the factory, so I assume they're still on target for the 30th, case production is ongoing.

Update on the PCBs from the 30th?

Offline worldspawn

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Current update from the factory that I got last night:

"Good morning.Thanks for your waiting.

The boards and components is just deliveried at factory.

They are double checking the board and components.

If there is any updating,i will tell you.

Thanks for your understanding."

so, hopefully soon, AFAIK the assembly itself is a pretty fast process.
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Offline pqoweiru1

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Any news on when in November you plan to run a second round? :o

Offline raynicho

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Is it possible to modify the top and bottom piece to allow the screws to sink in like the one linked below?
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/d1t3l8/usfl_h_frosted_acrylic_alice_new_w_paypal/

Yep, feel free to grab a countersink and some flat head countersunk m3 screws.


What length for the m3 screws?

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Can we get an update on what length for the M3 screws? The Etsy listing doesn't mention info on the screws.

Offline worldspawn

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Top layer screws are 10mm long, bottom are 6mm.
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