Author Topic: Who vs hhkb (Read 67659 times)

British · « **Reply #150 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 08:33:10 »

So, shall we start Operation "Salvage Miniguru" ? :wink:
(this thread might not be the best one to talk about this though)

ch_123 · « **Reply #151 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 08:34:38 »

That sucks...

Oh well, go go Unicomp Spacesaver!

lowpoly · « **Reply #152 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 09:03:08 »

Quote from: DryDry;191936

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this pic come from master ligo too~

Good catch, clickclack. :thumb:

That's one of my renderings being used here w/o permission.

chimera15 · « **Reply #153 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 09:23:41 »

Wow that sucks, are you mad about the kbc which does look like a knockoff Lowpoly? I wouldn't blame you. The kit nature of it and pcb does look different and interesting though....do you think it'd be too much competition?

itlnstln · « **Reply #154 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 09:40:18 »

Quote from: washuai

No miniguru, Realforce 87U is harder to obtain and even harder to get cherry reds. Dark days of keyboarding.

The 87u was only released as a Limited Edition (according to Topre), so the end of that 'board was inevitable. The 86u will still be available, though.

lowpoly · « **Reply #155 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 09:50:02 »

Quote from: chimera15;194275

Wow that sucks, are you mad about the kbc which does look like a knockoff Lowpoly? I wouldn't blame you. The kit nature of it and pcb does look different and interesting though....do you think it'd be too much competition?

The KBC had nothing to do with it (canceling).

The Miniguru was always out in the open, because of how it started. So this was a possibility.

Of course, using my pics and slapping a logo on it is not OK.

itlnstln · « **Reply #156 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 09:52:24 »

Well, at least you have a couple, real Minigurus. You also did something not many of us have done here which is make a keyboard entirely from scratch. We're all still proud of your work, Sofa King.

majestouch · « **Reply #157 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 12:14:27 »

Quote from: lowpoly;194285

The KBC had nothing to do with it (canceling).

The Miniguru was always out in the open, because of how it started. So this was a possibility.

Of course, using my pics and slapping a logo on it is not OK.

This is the unfortunate reality of manufacturing today. The Chinese gov't keeps their currency closed AND officially has no respect for intellectual property laws world wide; it's a double whammy. So, it's never surprising to see Chinese companies rip off other people's work; they have the incentive (profit) and there is no recourse for their infringement: it's not a matter of "if", it's just a matter of "when".

phoenix · « **Reply #158 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 12:54:20 »

Quote from: lowpoly;194285

The KBC had nothing to do with it (canceling).

The Miniguru was always out in the open, because of how it started. So this was a possibility.

Of course, using my pics and slapping a logo on it is not OK.

Since it's after midnight in China, I suppose the Chinese folks are not going to be able to post before this thread turns worse.

Lowpoly, using your picture was very lazy and wrong indeed, but the picture in question was copied here from kbc's own forum by DryDry and not posted by ligo or imsto. It was originally used in a casual discussion about layout internally and not as marketing material. The KBC-CHINA.COM logo in the corner is a watermark on every picture uploaded to their forum. Pictures are also not viewable by guest visitors.

pang0011 · « **Reply #159 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 13:25:25 »

Well finally, what did KBTalking do with this keyboard? why KBTalking? one of the KBT members said he couldn't fall asleep after he knew this story, he had to give vent to his anger by running up stairs. It turns out it is not a KBT keyboard is it?

Mr Ligo, did you get a consent from KBTalking when you posted the pictures with a KBT keycap?

Xuan · « **Reply #160 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 18:31:44 »

I think you really need to stop *****ing.
The miniguru is a great project and was really promising, I still hope lowpoly can do it and compensate his effort.
But the rest of us should be happy, there's still light, this who product seems to be an alternative, maybe not as many features and quality, but it seems to be a pretty good keyboard.

quadibloc · « **Reply #161 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 18:46:12 »

Quote from: lowpoly;194285

The KBC had nothing to do with it (canceling).

I'm not sure how to take that. Of course they had nothing to do with it directly.

Since the arrangement of keys that both your keyboard and theirs share is the standard one on a 104-key U.S. keyboard (and they only have one Fn key, in a different place than on your design), and their keyboard isn't even going to be programmable... I would even go so far as to say that their design isn't all that much of a ripoff. Except for the very basic idea: that the HHKB could stand to face some competition.

The fact that your design was going to be programmable, and theirs isn't, means that your keyboard would have been much more interesting, and so I very much regret its loss.

muchadoaboutnothing · « **Reply #162 on:** Fri, 18 June 2010, 19:15:43 »

On another board I frequent, at least five other people have stated that they were planing to order the Miniguru, some as gifts.

I personally planned to get one (despite my love for my numpad) because of the unique design and features (firmware customization was especially cool to me). Plus I love trackpoints.

clickclack · « **Reply #163 on:** Sat, 19 June 2010, 03:46:49 »

To lowpoly-
no prob

Quote from: phoenix;194369

... but the picture in question was copied here from kbc's own forum by DryDry and not posted by ligo or imsto...

I think that got a bit confusing because DryDry said it was from "master Ligo".
I completely understand what you are saying though, just so you know.

Quote from: pang0011;194375

Well finally, what did KBTalking do with this keyboard? why KBTalking? one of the KBT members said he couldn't fall asleep after he knew this story, he had to give vent to his anger by running up stairs. It turns out it is not a KBT keyboard is it?

Geeez, that's a bummer =S
Probably would have been nice if ligo didn't post both KBC and KBT stuff. At least that's what I got out of it.

Hmmm... I have an idea...

imsto · « **Reply #164 on:** Wed, 23 June 2010, 10:18:02 »

Quote from: pang0011;194375

Well finally, what did KBTalking do with this keyboard? why KBTalking? one of the KBT members said he couldn't fall asleep after he knew this story, he had to give vent to his anger by running up stairs. It turns out it is not a KBT keyboard is it?

Mr Ligo, did you get a consent from KBTalking when you posted the pictures with a KBT keycap?

this keyboard would appear in Taiwan as KBT Pure, and they are discuz the layout that they would like..
Ligo has got the approvement from the big boss of KBT to use that KBT keycap.
lol

I think KBC has not the ability to make the miniguru been canceled.

I asked a few question to Mr. lowpoly about the trackproint because I want to mod a knockoff one. haahaa. I may cut a IBM dome kbd with trackpoint to do this.

imsto · « **Reply #165 on:** Wed, 23 June 2010, 11:02:21 »

here is the boss lol

imsto · « **Reply #166 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 01:15:12 »

Progressing...

sealym · « **Reply #167 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 05:39:42 »

KBTalking

British · « **Reply #168 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 06:53:31 »

Yay, more cryptic people \o/

itlnstln · « **Reply #169 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 08:16:51 »

Quote from: imsto;197457

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Dammit. The pics appear to be broken.

TexasFlood · « **Reply #170 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 08:25:29 »

Quote from: itlnstln;197511

Dammit. The pics appear to be broken.

Weird, if I copy the URLs out, I can bring them up, but not coming up in the message.

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http://qq.a.5d6d.com/userdirs/c/4/kbc/attachments/day_100629/1006291227334ab7f1e4d49d61.jpg
http://qq.a.5d6d.com/userdirs/c/4/kbc/attachments/day_100629/10062912272e94ff1c4d750ff4.jpg

imsto · « **Reply #171 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 09:17:28 »

try again

itlnstln · « **Reply #172 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 10:02:01 »

Nice, thanks for the repost. Looking good.

itlnstln · « **Reply #173 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 10:27:34 »

A bottom of a keyboard perhaps?

noctua · « **Reply #174 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 10:53:46 »

There was something sooo familiar about this lighting conditions..
Is this made in CHINA?

chimera15 · « **Reply #175 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 11:18:40 »

Wow, injection molding case dies, amazing. Musta cost a fortune, geesh.

TexasFlood · « **Reply #176 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 11:45:22 »

Gonna need some cylinder bores in those heads.

quadibloc · « **Reply #177 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 13:12:22 »

I see someone else already said "injection molding case dies", so the fact that somebody went to a milling machine, and brought the keyboard closer to reality is apparent, despite the humorous possibilities suggested.

itlnstln · « **Reply #178 on:** Tue, 29 June 2010, 14:06:35 »

Quote from: ripster;197666

The joke works because of the cryptic nature of this whole post. And he DID ask us to try again.

Oh, that's why you were posting that; I didn't get it. He was saying "try again," because I pointed out that the first time he posted those pics, the link was broken, so that post was his second try.

imsto · « **Reply #179 on:** Wed, 30 June 2010, 08:16:27 »

try the third......

imsto · « **Reply #180 on:** Wed, 30 June 2010, 08:17:28 »

this mold is for this KBC 40.
plastic would be push into it then got a shell.

imsto · « **Reply #181 on:** Wed, 30 June 2010, 09:06:49 »

tens of thousands USD.

Rajagra · « **Reply #182 on:** Wed, 30 June 2010, 09:33:36 »

Over nine thousaaaaaand?

imsto · « **Reply #183 on:** Wed, 30 June 2010, 19:01:43 »

Quote from: ripster;197593

Heavy duty Legos?

The Chinese Mint?

Chipotle Burrito steamer?

it was made in Taiwan

quadibloc · « **Reply #184 on:** Wed, 30 June 2010, 19:37:13 »

Quote from: ripster;197734

Try again.

Ask again later.

ricercar · « **Reply #185 on:** Wed, 30 June 2010, 21:27:18 »

My sources say yes.

MonsieurLam · « **Reply #186 on:** Mon, 30 August 2010, 09:05:14 »

First post here (great forum guys) to come to the news for this keyboard. I was very motivated for the Guru but I presume this one is now the closest I can get.

WhiteRice · « **Reply #187 on:** Mon, 30 August 2010, 09:27:00 »

Yea you have to be a level 50+ keymaster to get info on the really good keyboards

MonsieurLam · « **Reply #188 on:** Thu, 02 September 2010, 04:58:00 »

Feels like it's gonna be a mess to get one of those (if they don't end to be vaporware).

washuai · « **Reply #189 on:** Sat, 04 September 2010, 03:31:53 »

We haven't had any updates on this in a while. At least so far I haven't allowed my hopes to go up.

WhiteRice · « **Reply #190 on:** Sat, 04 September 2010, 06:57:28 »

I found some stuff. Most particularly on the layout and possibly a name.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/29237441@N07/sets/72157624291214696/

Check out the rest of the galleries too. I would seem that this person is a pretty big computer peripheral enthusiast.

Edit: More

http://kbtalking.cool3c.com/article/23806

imsto · « **Reply #191 on:** Wed, 08 September 2010, 07:53:38 »

it will be available on October if everything is normal.

imsto · « **Reply #192 on:** Sat, 11 September 2010, 11:05:31 »

ripster: there is also one guy, he did also always saying cut the rshift into two, and even the spacebar, because people did press the space bar always with the same thumb.

ch_123 · « **Reply #193 on:** Sat, 11 September 2010, 11:26:17 »

Quote from: ripster;220884

Should have made it a stuffing option on the PCB. Plenty of room.

You should try looking at what's there on the HHKB PCB. You'd be surprised...

ironman31 · « **Reply #194 on:** Fri, 01 October 2010, 07:42:22 »

Anymore word on availability other than hopefully This month?

WhiteRice · « **Reply #195 on:** Fri, 01 October 2010, 09:18:18 »

I bet laden3 knows

laden3 · « **Reply #196 on:** Fri, 01 October 2010, 09:29:55 »

idk... should ask ligo or imsto

kip69 · « **Reply #197 on:** Fri, 01 October 2010, 20:39:08 »

This is made in Taiwan right. So PM me a name and location. I will go around the place and get some answers, perhaps take my father-in-law if they need some persuading.

Is there a summery of info anywhere?

squarebox · « **Reply #198 on:** Tue, 19 October 2010, 00:43:28 »

More pics ?

hemo796 · « **Reply #199 on:** Tue, 19 October 2010, 01:34:34 »

Kb looks very nice :O

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Author Topic: Who vs hhkb (Read 67659 times)