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Offline sujikinen

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/01 update + poll)
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 01 October 2019, 22:21:13 »
I have a demand for R3 1.25 enter,so I'm definite in for 40s,and also colevrak+,
I may buy 2 or 3 colevrak+ kits to support project,thanks for your work.


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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/01 update + poll)
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 02 October 2019, 15:05:10 »
I know unlikely, but would love a BoW 40's kit to run along side this.

probably won't be happening given how minimal had a 40s kit so most BoW owners interested in 40s should already have the kit

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/01 update + poll)
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 02 October 2019, 16:32:07 »
Thank you for organizing this.

I'll buy at least:

- 1 40s kit
- 2 colevrak kits

if/when it runs.

I type dvorak and I don't have any 40%s yet - so I don't have strong opinions on the kits.

I'll buy two ergo kits if you ever decide to run those.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/01 update + poll)
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 02 October 2019, 21:25:18 »
I know unlikely, but would love a BoW 40's kit to run along side this.

probably won't be happening given how minimal had a 40s kit so most BoW owners interested in 40s should already have the kit

Minimal was more geared toward ortho and split spacebar support. I think it'd be good to gauge BoW interest too and if it doesn't add too much to the cost of the kits, add BoW to the already existing WoB kits. GMK usually prefers volume buys and discounts appropriately.


GMK Minimal's "40's" kit



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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/01 update + poll)
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 12:50:23 »
I know unlikely, but would love a BoW 40's kit to run along side this.

probably won't be happening given how minimal had a 40s kit so most BoW owners interested in 40s should already have the kit

Minimal was more geared toward ortho and split spacebar support. I think it'd be good to gauge BoW interest too and if it doesn't add too much to the cost of the kits, add BoW to the already existing WoB kits. GMK usually prefers volume buys and discounts appropriately.


GMK Minimal's "40's" kit
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I already tried polling this and around 50% of the people said they would also be interested in BoW however I'll make another poll for this tomorrow just to gauge interest with a lot of newcomers in this thread

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/01 update + poll)
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 05:04:32 »
I would support Colevrak, but this is stopping me for two reasons:

1. I strongly dislike WoB.
2. I don't want to buy a full base kit just for the alphas.

A few letters more and we would have a stand alone alpha kit I could use with N9 ortho for example. That I would buy despite my dislike of WoB.

Full Colevrak alpha kit in basically any other color scheme would have my money. GL with GB. I really hope it makes MOQ.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/01 update + poll)
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:06:47 »
Nice, I'm also super interested, and love that Colemak-DH is supported as well, can I pay already? ;D

Edit: Not using it myself, but who knows, maybe one day, but maybe add two extra keys for Solemak?

Would need only a non-homing F and a 1.5U (Semi-)Colon key for it.

Super niche maybe, but figured I'd at least bring it out there just in case.
« Last Edit: Wed, 09 October 2019, 16:32:27 by MinaDarsh »

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/01 update + poll)
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 19:25:05 »
I would support Colevrak, but this is stopping me for two reasons:

1. I strongly dislike WoB.
2. I don't want to buy a full base kit just for the alphas.

A few letters more and we would have a stand alone alpha kit I could use with N9 ortho for example. That I would buy despite my dislike of WoB.

Full Colevrak alpha kit in basically any other color scheme would have my money. GL with GB. I really hope it makes MOQ.

"A few letters more" is an understatement.  A standalone Colevrak+ kit would need 40 additional keycaps.  Dvorak uses "only" 24 QWERTY keycaps, the fewest of the alternate layouts supported by this kit.

QWERTY keycaps used by each layout:


The bottom half of this chart shows which QWERTY keycaps each alternative layout uses.  The fully-white columns are unique to QWERTY.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/01 update + poll)
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 20:02:38 »
I just thought "man, this dvorcol person sure knows his dvorak/colemak stuff, always providing charts!" Dvorcol... Dvor... col.... ahhhhhhhh.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/01 update + poll)
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 05:08:14 »

"A few letters more" is an understatement.  A standalone Colevrak+ kit would need 40 additional keycaps.  Dvorak uses "only" 24 QWERTY keycaps, the fewest of the alternate layouts supported by this kit.


You are completely right. I had it wrong in my head and looked back at the previous topic. It amounted to 33 keys. I guess with the additional layouts it comes to 40.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/01 update + poll)
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 08:49:41 »
As much as I would like one, a "full alpha colevrak+++" kit seems out of the scope of this GB, since the 40s kit itself is not a "full 40s kit" since it too needs an accompanying GMK WoB base set.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/01 update + poll)
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 09:10:48 »
I'm just so desperate for any Colemak compatible GMK set that I'll take anything. Full kit? Sure. Coleverak alphas only? Hit me with it.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/11 update)
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 09:14:08 »
Just updated the post.
TL;DR:
- 1.50 backspace in 40s, kit most likely final
- colevrak kit finalised
- no BoW / ergo support
- renders soon™

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/11 update)
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 09:41:27 »
Obviously no date is set yet, but do you have a rough idea when you're looking to run this? In a couple months? Mid next year?

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/11 update)
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 10:03:05 »
Obviously no date is set yet, but do you have a rough idea when you're looking to run this? In a couple months? Mid next year?

Best case scenario, early next year. If not that then some time in April-May. Really depends on whether the geekhack mods will let me post another GB before my current one has finished, as the one I have on right now will only be shipping around April at the latest I believe.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/11 update)
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 13:24:17 »
I'm going to pass on the gmk WoB which is on drop right now. I'm pretty sure it'll be available again before this gb runs (and I need to manage my cash flow right now).



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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/11 update)
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 14:41:43 »
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Thanks for taking the reins on this. I really don't have the time/patience.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/11 update)
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 14 October 2019, 09:18:50 »
I'm going to pass on the gmk WoB which is on drop right now.

Same. I think I will get in on this Colevrak buy to support it and will get the rest of the alphas later.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/11 update)
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 06:26:13 »
Pondering with my layout for an upcoming project I was actually wondering, wouldn't upside down R4 keys be handy for those who like inverted bottom row keys?

Some 40s have a split spacebar, with some having a 1U key or two in the middle, and in the case of Orthos, most of the bottom row keys are used with one's thumbs.

So perhaps an upside down cast Lower/Raise button and some other options could proof beneficial.

Just something I was wondering, not sure if it's too late for that now, but think about it. (Although it might become a 40s++ by then, heh.)

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/11 update)
« Reply #69 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 08:22:50 »
Pondering with my layout for an upcoming project I was actually wondering, wouldn't upside down R4 keys be handy for those who like inverted bottom row keys?

Some 40s have a split spacebar, with some having a 1U key or two in the middle, and in the case of Orthos, most of the bottom row keys are used with one's thumbs.

So perhaps an upside down cast Lower/Raise button and some other options could proof beneficial.

Just something I was wondering, not sure if it's too late for that now, but think about it. (Although it might become a 40s++ by then, heh.)

i believe that would require new moulds, and either way i think that that is far too niche to be a worthwhile addition to the kit in all honesty

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (10/11 update)
« Reply #70 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 16:47:11 »
i believe that would require new moulds, and either way i think that that is far too niche to be a worthwhile addition to the kit in all honesty

Yeah, 'fraid so, maybe an idea for a kit IC for a really popular set some day.

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Just posted a small update:
- revamped the IC layout
- added renders of finalised kits
- added a few more renders on a keyboard

I will start reaching out to proxies over the coming week  ;D

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I'm definitely in for 1 or 2 Colevrak kits. If a BoW is added, I'll buy one of each. So many GMK IC's just launched in the past few weeks and none have a Colevrak. Gonna try for some KAT GB's that do, once they launch.
Thanks for running this! Hopefully GB is soon??
« Last Edit: Thu, 17 October 2019, 06:52:51 by msting »

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I'm definitely in for 1 or 2 Colevrak kits. If a BoW is added, I'll buy one of each. So many GMK IC's just launched in the past few weeks and none have a Colevrak. Gonna try for some KAT GB's that do, once they launch.
Thanks for running this! Hopefully GB is soon??

i'll need to consult geekhack mods about whether i can do another gb before my current one has shipped - it fully depends on that. at the earliest it would be late this year / early next year, at the latest some time around march-april.

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Just posted a small update:
- revamped the IC layout
- added renders of finalised kits
- added a few more renders on a keyboard

I will start reaching out to proxies over the coming week  ;D

Have you considered calling out rows and sizes in the 40s kit to avoid confusion?  Here's my guess:


« Last Edit: Thu, 17 October 2019, 19:14:16 by dvorcol »

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I'm definitely in for 1 or 2 Colevrak kits. If a BoW is added, I'll buy one of each. So many GMK IC's just launched in the past few weeks and none have a Colevrak. Gonna try for some KAT GB's that do, once they launch.
Thanks for running this! Hopefully GB is soon??

i'll need to consult geekhack mods about whether i can do another gb before my current one has shipped - it fully depends on that. at the earliest it would be late this year / early next year, at the latest some time around march-april.

Shouldn't be a problem since lots of other people are running multiple GBs at the moment, especially since it's a keyset. If it was a board that might be different.

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Just posted a small update:
- revamped the IC layout
- added renders of finalised kits
- added a few more renders on a keyboard

I will start reaching out to proxies over the coming week  ;D

Have you considered calling out rows and sizes in the 40s kit to avoid confusion?  Here's my guess:

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thanks - i'll get some updated renders soon with this.

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definitely in for a 40s kit when this runs.

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Just posted a small update:
- revamped the IC layout
- added renders of finalised kits
- added a few more renders on a keyboard

I will start reaching out to proxies over the coming week  ;D

Have you considered calling out rows and sizes in the 40s kit to avoid confusion?  Here's my guess:

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updated with this now btw, sorry for the delay

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (updated renders)
« Reply #81 on: Mon, 28 October 2019, 07:29:33 »
I may be overlooking something here, but why is R3 escape chosen over something like caps lock or control?

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (updated renders)
« Reply #82 on: Mon, 28 October 2019, 08:04:47 »
I may be overlooking something here, but why is R3 escape chosen over something like caps lock or control?
R3 escape is default on a plank
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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (updated renders)
« Reply #83 on: Mon, 28 October 2019, 11:16:03 »
I'd appreciate it if there were a 2u left shift in the 40s kit.

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Just posted a small update:
- revamped the IC layout
- added renders of finalised kits
- added a few more renders on a keyboard

I will start reaching out to proxies over the coming week  ;D

It's probably too late for this GB, but I just learned about Wide mod.  Adding an R3 ]} to this Colevrak+ kit - just one more keycap - would support Wide mod on any layout that keeps punctuation in QWERTY locations.  (The R2 ' " is already in the kit to support Dvorak.)

« Last Edit: Tue, 29 October 2019, 00:10:35 by dvorcol »

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (updated renders)
« Reply #85 on: Mon, 28 October 2019, 19:32:52 »
I would suggest adding blank keys to 40+s,I think many people have different taste on punctuation's location.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (updated renders)
« Reply #86 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 06:50:44 »
I'd appreciate it if there were a 2u left shift in the 40s kit.

Just posted a small update:
- revamped the IC layout
- added renders of finalised kits
- added a few more renders on a keyboard

I will start reaching out to proxies over the coming week  ;D

It's probably too late for this GB, but I just learned about Wide mod.  Adding an R3 ]} to this Colevrak+ kit - just one more keycap - would support Wide mod on any layout that keeps punctuation in QWERTY locations.  (The R2 ' " is already in the kit to support Dvorak.)

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I would suggest adding blank keys to 40+s,I think many people have different taste on punctuation's location.

Unfortunately it's a bit too late for this now, I did a lot of community polling and none of these really had any interest (I think one person asked for blanks but that's it).

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (updated renders)
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 07:42:39 »
small update: just got an eu vendor confirmed, and am now looking for an na one. working to get these both asap so i can get this gb started hopefully before the end of the year

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (updated renders)
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 09:27:30 »
small update: just got an eu vendor confirmed, and am now looking for an na one. working to get these both asap so i can get this gb started hopefully before the end of the year

Superb! This is going faster than expected.

And I wonder which EU vendor that possibly could be... ;D

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (updated renders)
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 13:17:27 »
Would it be possible to also run this CR/WS1 R0 + R5 compatibility kit alongside this?

It's a similar situation like the Colevrak set and I'd love to get all CR kits made.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (updated renders)
« Reply #90 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 14:27:17 »
Would it be possible to also run this CR/WS1 R0 + R5 compatibility kit alongside this?

It's a similar situation like the Colevrak set and I'd love to get all CR kits made.

possibly. this guy doesn't seem very active on here, so does anyone have his contact on any other platforms? i wouldn't want to steal his kit without him giving me permission.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (updated renders)
« Reply #91 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 15:35:48 »
possibly. this guy doesn't seem very active on here, so does anyone have his contact on any other platforms? i wouldn't want to steal his kit without him giving me permission.

I reached out to him on Reddit and Discord, I'll let you know if I hear back from him.

Edit:

« Last Edit: Fri, 08 November 2019, 15:40:36 by nvmbra »

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+ and Colevrak+ Extension Kits (updated renders)
« Reply #92 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 17:18:01 »
possibly. this guy doesn't seem very active on here, so does anyone have his contact on any other platforms? i wouldn't want to steal his kit without him giving me permission.

I reached out to him on Reddit and Discord, I'll let you know if I hear back from him.

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tysm - i just updated the post  ;D

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+, Colevrak+ and R0/R5 Extension Kits
« Reply #93 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 18:52:37 »
WoB R0/R5 kit is something I have been wondering about for a while now. Excited to see it become part of this!

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+, Colevrak+ and R0/R5 Extension Kits
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 19:09:41 »
Super happy to see the R0/R5 kit picked up! I know this will probably just piss some people off, but any chance the 1.5u Alt Gr could be changed to Alt, or at least a second one added?

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+, Colevrak+ and R0/R5 Extension Kits
« Reply #95 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 23:17:29 »
nice all three kits in one gb!

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+, Colevrak+ and R0/R5 Extension Kits
« Reply #96 on: Sat, 09 November 2019, 08:00:05 »
Nice, I'm in for all sets.
I think the R0/5 extension kit still needs to be updated though with an R0 Delete key and 1800 compatibility from reading through the old thread.

Also, any chance we could add relegendables too?

I think this should be able to make MOQ by itself and the blank relegandable kit might be worth adding too because with so many CR sets I'm sure you can work something out with GMK, should it not reach MOQ.

Everyone should be good with CR for a while after this GB with WoB Hiragana, Icon Mod kit, NordeUK kit and Hangul kit already in production  :)

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+, Colevrak+ and R0/R5 Extension Kits
« Reply #97 on: Sat, 09 November 2019, 08:37:09 »
Super happy to see the R0/R5 kit picked up! I know this will probably just piss some people off, but any chance the 1.5u Alt Gr could be changed to Alt, or at least a second one added?

Please leave the Alt Gr in there. Just add another one. And I'm also super happy to see that R0/R5 is moving forward.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+, Colevrak+ and R0/R5 Extension Kits
« Reply #98 on: Sat, 09 November 2019, 14:50:40 »
Also, any chance we could add relegendables too?

I second this!

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB 40s+, Colevrak+ and R0/R5 Extension Kits
« Reply #99 on: Sat, 09 November 2019, 15:08:17 »
Also, any chance we could add relegendables too?

I second this!

Relegendables for GMK WoB?!?
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