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Offline geewiz

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #350 on: Sun, 12 January 2020, 04:29:26 »
The icon mods were the final push I needed. Curse you!  :D

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #351 on: Sun, 12 January 2020, 13:57:28 »
About 50 votes right now, with pretty inconclusive results (~40% V1 ~40% V2 ~40% ~20% no preference with about 5% fluctuation on a lot of em) , 50 is also a pretty small dataset compared to the original form which is +10x that so if you haven't already and are interested in the Modern kit please do vote :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #352 on: Sun, 12 January 2020, 23:04:33 »
Any plans for a deskmat?

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #353 on: Mon, 13 January 2020, 10:28:53 »
Any plans for a deskmat?

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #354 on: Mon, 13 January 2020, 10:49:24 »
Any plans for a deskmat?

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Offline iliketimex

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #355 on: Mon, 13 January 2020, 12:05:54 »
Will definitely get the Mac style icon kit if it goes live. Had no interest in the Windows kit.  :thumb:

Offline Hedgey

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #356 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 10:59:07 »
I just want to reiterate that I would ask you to add the 2 keys necessary for the Minivan to the 40ís kit.  Your reasoning and rational were weak at best and I believe that you are ignoring many factors that would only help the 40ís reach MOQ when itís time for the GB.

Thanks!
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Offline tominabox1

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #357 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 12:12:50 »
Please add minivan support.
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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #358 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 12:53:48 »
Here we go again.



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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #359 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 12:57:54 »
I just want to reiterate that I would ask you to add the 2 keys necessary for the Minivan to the 40ís kit.  Your reasoning and rational were weak at best and I believe that you are ignoring many factors that would only help the 40ís reach MOQ when itís time for the GB.

Thanks!

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #360 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 13:05:12 »
This is quite a wonderful set, however it has come to my attention that it lacks the essential key caps in the "Obscure" 40% kit that lacks the compatibility with my current daily driver, the Minivan. I believe that it would help sales by adding the keys necessary for it to be a compatible keyboard with this key cap set and I would very much appreciate it if minivan was supported.

Offline factoryofidols

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #361 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 13:20:06 »
As an owner of 3 minivans it is very hard for me to support sets no matter how nice when they do not have compatibility for the majority of my boards. Please consider adding 1.75u backspace and 1.5u enter.

Offline cjt9000

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #362 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 13:34:11 »
Excuse me Mr. Janglad sir How am I supposed to use this on my 1994 Ford Windstar without a r3 1.5u enter and a 1.75u r2 backspace??? Outrageous! :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #363 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 13:43:30 »
I just want to reiterate that I would ask you to add the 2 keys necessary for the Minivan to the 40ís kit.  Your reasoning and rational were weak at best and I believe that you are ignoring many factors that would only help the 40ís reach MOQ when itís time for the GB.

Thanks!

This is quite a wonderful set, however it has come to my attention that it lacks the essential key caps in the "Obscure" 40% kit that lacks the compatibility with my current daily driver, the Minivan. I believe that it would help sales by adding the keys necessary for it to be a compatible keyboard with this key cap set and I would very much appreciate it if minivan was supported.

  • The product owner/designer owes no justification nor reasoning to the consumer for any decisions they make with regards to their own product. This is purely done as a gesture to the consumer, and as a consumer, it shouldn't be expected that the product owner beckon to every request that's thrown at them.
  • If an issue regarding kit structuring has already been addressed, the designer has obviously already taken into account the viability of the request with regards to the overall MOQ risk and financial incentives of said kit. Framing your personal desires as "it will help reach MOQ" or "increase sales" is counter-intuitive. The decision was made to structure the kits in the way that they are because research into said issue justified it as the optimal approach in the eyes of the product owner.

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #364 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 14:04:15 »
Ah **** here we go again

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #365 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 14:06:03 »
I just want to reiterate that I would ask you to add the 2 keys necessary for the Minivan to the 40ís kit.  Your reasoning and rational were weak at best and I believe that you are ignoring many factors that would only help the 40ís reach MOQ when itís time for the GB.

Thanks!

This is quite a wonderful set, however it has come to my attention that it lacks the essential key caps in the "Obscure" 40% kit that lacks the compatibility with my current daily driver, the Minivan. I believe that it would help sales by adding the keys necessary for it to be a compatible keyboard with this key cap set and I would very much appreciate it if minivan was supported.

  • The product owner/designer owes no justification nor reasoning to the consumer for any decisions they make with regards to their own product. This is purely done as a gesture to the consumer, and as a consumer, it shouldn't be expected that the product owner beckon to every request that's thrown at them.
  • If an issue regarding kit structuring has already been addressed, the designer has obviously already taken into account the viability of the request with regards to the overall MOQ risk and financial incentives of said kit. Framing your personal desires as "it will help reach MOQ" or "increase sales" is counter-intuitive. The decision was made to structure the kits in the way that they are because research into said issue justified it as the optimal approach in the eyes of the product owner.

Yes, designer may choose to make choices without sharing their reasoning.  Although it could be argued that doing so defeats the purpose of an interest check.

 They asked to see proof that there was interest from Minvan owners, and we're merely expressing that interest. As this is an interest check, that is all we can do.
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Offline Hedgey

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #366 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 14:18:46 »
I just want to reiterate that I would ask you to add the 2 keys necessary for the Minivan to the 40ís kit.  Your reasoning and rational were weak at best and I believe that you are ignoring many factors that would only help the 40ís reach MOQ when itís time for the GB.

Thanks!

This is quite a wonderful set, however it has come to my attention that it lacks the essential key caps in the "Obscure" 40% kit that lacks the compatibility with my current daily driver, the Minivan. I believe that it would help sales by adding the keys necessary for it to be a compatible keyboard with this key cap set and I would very much appreciate it if minivan was supported.

  • The product owner/designer owes no justification nor reasoning to the consumer for any decisions they make with regards to their own product. This is purely done as a gesture to the consumer, and as a consumer, it shouldn't be expected that the product owner beckon to every request that's thrown at them.
  • If an issue regarding kit structuring has already been addressed, the designer has obviously already taken into account the viability of the request with regards to the overall MOQ risk and financial incentives of said kit. Framing your personal desires as "it will help reach MOQ" or "increase sales" is counter-intuitive. The decision was made to structure the kits in the way that they are because research into said issue justified it as the optimal approach in the eyes of the product owner.

His "research" was just sticking to his IC form and nothing else.  Then he came into the discord server and his justification is that the board (which is the most popular 40% in staggered form) isn't being sold anymore, and therefore he shouldn't need to provide compat.  Then when challenged, his reasoning was that "I doubt many people in the community actually use the board considering the board was a kickstarter".  (His quote word for word) That is a take that just isn't true and one that spending 10 mins doing some research, he'd be able to see how many people do in fact, use the board on a daily basis.  (Not to mention how many variants are out there) 

It's HIS choice to run the see the way he sees fit, you are correct.  However as someone who likes the colorway of this set, it's frustrating to see reasoning that wasn't well researched as an excuse to not include literally 2 keys. 
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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #367 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 14:33:45 »
Inb4 the thread gets locked.

Offline Hedgey

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #368 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 14:38:35 »
Inb4 the thread gets locked.

Why?

It's civil, and healthy discussion is good for the community, especially when people are ill-informed or have misinformation.
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Offline neojonathan

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #369 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 15:16:07 »
Minivan always spicy

Offline KuroTheCrazy

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #370 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 15:19:59 »
I'm looking to get a minivan from TKC when they start selling them in the next couple months, and MoDoL would look great on it imo. Would hate to miss out on the set just because it's missing one key.

Offline nephlock

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #371 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 15:20:41 »

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
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Offline ddnomad

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #373 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 18:51:39 »
Another thread falls victim to compat wars ...

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #374 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 18:52:53 »
Another thread falls victim to compat wars ...

how is asking for support in an IC a "compat war"??
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Offline ddnomad

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #375 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 18:55:38 »
Another thread falls victim to compat wars ...

how is asking for support in an IC a "compat war"??

Well, I remember how that end up in Olivia++ IC lol

Not that Iím saying it is good or bad, just stating the fact that it usually escalated into a full fledged compat war :D

Offline DukeEsquire

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #376 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 18:58:19 »
I just want to reiterate that I would ask you to add the 2 keys necessary for the Minivan to the 40ís kit.  Your reasoning and rational were weak at best and I believe that you are ignoring many factors that would only help the 40ís reach MOQ when itís time for the GB.

Thanks!

This is quite a wonderful set, however it has come to my attention that it lacks the essential key caps in the "Obscure" 40% kit that lacks the compatibility with my current daily driver, the Minivan. I believe that it would help sales by adding the keys necessary for it to be a compatible keyboard with this key cap set and I would very much appreciate it if minivan was supported.

  • The product owner/designer owes no justification nor reasoning to the consumer for any decisions they make with regards to their own product. This is purely done as a gesture to the consumer, and as a consumer, it shouldn't be expected that the product owner beckon to every request that's thrown at them.
  • If an issue regarding kit structuring has already been addressed, the designer has obviously already taken into account the viability of the request with regards to the overall MOQ risk and financial incentives of said kit. Framing your personal desires as "it will help reach MOQ" or "increase sales" is counter-intuitive. The decision was made to structure the kits in the way that they are because research into said issue justified it as the optimal approach in the eyes of the product owner.

Yes, designer may choose to make choices without sharing their reasoning.  Although it could be argued that doing so defeats the purpose of an interest check.

 They asked to see proof that there was interest from Minvan owners, and we're merely expressing that interest. As this is an interest check, that is all we can do.

OP has actually listened to a lot of the feedback here.

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #377 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 19:01:01 »

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OP has actually listened to a lot of the feedback here.

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Good! maybe he'll change his mind then  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #378 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 19:54:38 »
filled up the form, but would like to request for R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn added to the base kit for 65% support. Thanks!

Offline PocketAces

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #379 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 22:40:11 »
Arenít minivans making a comeback of some sort?


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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #380 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 22:42:36 »
TKC has purchased the IP and is in the process of bringing them back to market. Not to mention there's over 2000 known in existence in the community

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light
« Reply #381 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 22:55:48 »
TKC has purchased the IP and is in the process of bringing them back to market. Not to mention there's over 2000 known in existence in the community

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light - GB opening on 02/02
« Reply #382 on: Tue, 21 January 2020, 10:11:49 »
is it me or i cant find any render with the accent SBs? how am i supposed to buy em if i cant see them firstly?  :p

Offline janglad

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light - GB opening on 02/02
« Reply #383 on: Tue, 21 January 2020, 10:13:40 »
is it me or i cant find any render with the accent SBs? how am i supposed to buy em if i cant see them firstly?  :p

Yes you're right, this is my bad. I'm working on more renders for the GB and will definitely include some with accent spacebars!

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Re: [IC] GMK Modern Dolch Light - GB opening on 02/02
« Reply #384 on: Tue, 21 January 2020, 11:36:56 »
Rip alternative caps lock keys