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Offline FRANCO

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Any modern keyboards with a similar layout to the IBM 5251?
« on: Thu, 17 October 2019, 15:28:12 »
Looking for what is basically a full keyboard (alphas, modifiers, and numpad) with the F-keys on the left side
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Offline AJM

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Re: Any modern keyboards with a similar layout to the IBM 5251?
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 18 October 2019, 12:51:57 »
Unfortunately no - at least not at the moment.  :(

There has been a 65% + F-keys on the left.

A 60% + Numpad (UK78 (hard to find), M0lly (GB currently running), Vortex ViBE (relatively easy to find)).

I found clues that there once was a "Red Scarf II+" keyboard in 4 different versions. One of these versions was called "Model F" and had the layout we are seeking.
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Re: Any modern keyboards with a similar layout to the IBM 5251?
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 18 October 2019, 17:04:13 »
Tangential, and not modern, but the Northgate Omnikey Ultra had a couple of models with Alpha keys left.

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Re: Any modern keyboards with a similar layout to the IBM 5251?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 08:22:14 »
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"Starting in 2011, the deficits again started to shrink. During Obama’s term  the deficit was reduced by $900 Billion  before finally in 2015 the GOP managed to wrangle a “reconciliation” bill out of Obama where he again cut corporate taxes, as well as made permanent some of George W. Bush’s original tax cuts. This is the year everything reversed. Before this, under Clinton, Bush and Obama the deficit in almost every year was gradually decreasing. The balance we had of taxes and the economy was bringing the deficit down, the money coming in was slowly catching up with the money going out until 2015. Trump’s subsequent tax cut has continued the new trend even after the rest of Bush’s cuts have since expired. Obama had an average GDP of 2.3%, with 11.6 million jobs created and unemployment peaking at 10% in 2009, then falling to 4.3% in 2016. If we had continued on that downward deficit track, we would have again reached balance and another surplus in 2017-2018.
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