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Offline gr1m

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« Reply #50 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 18:03:51 »
What are reds like?
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« Reply #51 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 18:26:21 »
Reds are a rare beast, and from what I've gathered, are incredibly light, with no tactile bump to speak of.
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« Reply #52 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 18:36:30 »
They're a light-weight linear.  Blacks that require less force.
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« Reply #53 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 18:38:06 »
MX Reds :D
Lighter than browns (not by much though). Very smooth.
Great for games, though if you're not careful, accidental key strokes happen.
I like it for general typing, not as much for coding (buckling springs are my favourite for that).

Unfortunately hard to get, and retailers have stopped advertising online them in Japan. Still in stock in various places in Akihabara though.
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« Reply #54 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 19:08:59 »
Cherry never ceases to create something amazing, then withdraw it from the market as soon as someone starts showing interest in it.
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« Reply #55 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 20:11:32 »
Your Nostromo is a magnum opus, ripster. Kudos again and again, even if I forget to say so out loud.
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« Reply #56 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 20:13:25 »
I still prefer using a bog-standard keyboard to any funky gamepad arrangement (and by bog-standard I mean no macros or extra keys). I'm reading other threads now and people are calling Cherry Browns light. How light are we talking? How will it compare to a rubber-dome G15?
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« Reply #57 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 20:22:10 »
I'm not sure how heavy the G15 is, but my Cherry browns feel similar to or lighter than most rubber domes I've used.
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« Reply #58 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 20:23:55 »
Uh. This changes things. I don't want something as light as a rubber-dome. I want a steel tank of a keyboard that'll dissuade mortal humans from coming near my computer. I guess that means Black Cherries?

However, will my fingers fall off if I type too much using blacks?
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« Reply #59 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 20:58:03 »
There's always buckling springs. A Unicomp Spacesaver (basically a Model M without the ginormous bezel) may be just what you need, though it lacks the NKRO that is so great for gaming. But to be honest, NKRO isn't a *huge* benefit. The IBM matrix is good enough for games, because most combos that are blocked are ridiculously difficult to hit except on purpose.
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« Reply #60 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 21:03:23 »
Quote from: gr1m;191474
I still prefer using a bog-standard keyboard to any funky gamepad arrangement (and by bog-standard I mean no macros or extra keys). I'm reading other threads now and people are calling Cherry Browns light. How light are we talking? How will it compare to a rubber-dome G15?


If your fingers fall off from typing with blacks, you might just die from breathing too hard.
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« Reply #61 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 21:05:44 »
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There's always buckling springs. A Unicomp Spacesaver (basically a Model M without the ginormous bezel) may be just what you need, though it lacks the NKRO that is so great for gaming. But to be honest, NKRO isn't a *huge* benefit. The IBM matrix is good enough for games, because most combos that are blocked are ridiculously difficult to hit except on purpose.


Hm. $69 for the PS2 black/silver 104-key model. Not too shabby.
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« Reply #62 on: Wed, 09 June 2010, 21:07:49 »
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If your fingers fall off from typing with blacks, you might just die from breathing too hard.

Lol, well, to be fair, I have 0 experience with mechanical switches and I just can't wrap my mind around them. It seems I still don't understand them. They have nothing to do with force required to press it seems, since that varies enormously. Some don't even have a tactile bump. However, I'm enjoying the description of Cherry blacks the most, and I think that will be my final choice. If my G15 keyboard needs 65g of force if ripster is right and a Cherry black is 60 (although it increases linearly), then I'll definitely survive.
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« Reply #63 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 07:33:15 »
K, well, I did a complete roundabout and am now back to wanting the Filco NKRO Tenkeyless Brown Majestouch Otaku keyboard, which was my gut desire in the first place. Anybody know where I can get blank colored keycaps? I want to replace the WASD with green or yellow buttons.
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« Reply #64 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 10:33:47 »
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Here's another idea.  Get a CHEAP $10 Chicony KB-5191


Wow, thanks, I just snapped it up.
I'm still pissed off about the Adesso build quality problems.
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« Reply #65 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 10:40:16 »
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Wow, thanks, I just snapped it up.
I'm still pissed off about the Adesso build quality problems.


did you RMA it?
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« Reply #66 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 10:42:44 »
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did you RMA it?


I have a year.  I'm breaking it in for science!!

Speaking of cheap Cherries, anyone have a lead for other really cheap Cherry clone or real Cherry keyboards of the Black and Brown types (and are not used P.O.S. terminal keyboards)?
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Offline gr1m

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« Reply #67 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 11:00:53 »
Hm. I must allocate $50 of my keyboard funds to a preorder of Fallout New Vegas.
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« Reply #68 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 11:28:45 »
I'm picking RDR up when it releases for the PC.
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« Reply #69 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 13:26:43 »
ripster, not to hijack the thread, but did you write up what you did to this http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=10446&stc=1&d=1275236477 ?
i decided to get a typing keyboard and a gaming keyboard of some kind, and that looks pretty sick for gaming.
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« Reply #70 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 13:49:11 »
I limit my preorders per year.  Unfortunately, I like a lot of niche titles, so those I have to pick up, because they never drop in price, they just disappear.  Otherwise, I just wait for a game to drop 50% off release retail.  I still own PS2 games that I haven't beaten or mastered, some still in their wrappers, even, so that's extra incentive to hold off for price drops.

I still need to pick this up, for example:
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« Reply #71 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 14:00:35 »
I approve of this hijacking since I got all the help I needed.
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« Reply #72 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 14:25:47 »
I'm serious about the colored keycaps though, any ideas where to get them from? Blank colored keycaps. My plan for the Filco NKRO tenkeyless Cherry Brown Otaku:

- Red ESC button (included)
- Any color WASD cluster (blue, green, yellow)
- Any color Start Menu keycaps
- Spacebar

So, for example:
Red ESC button, green WASD cluster, yellow Start Menu buttons and a big orange spacebar.

Can I buy a white set of blank keycaps and dye them? Does somebody who normally dies keycaps want to sell me some?
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« Reply #73 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 15:02:51 »
Quote from: gr1m;191717
I'm serious about the colored keycaps though, any ideas where to get them from? Blank colored keycaps. My plan for the Filco NKRO tenkeyless Cherry Brown Otaku:

- Red ESC button (included)
- Any color WASD cluster (blue, green, yellow)
- Any color Start Menu keycaps
- Spacebar

So, for example:
Red ESC button, green WASD cluster, yellow Start Menu buttons and a big orange spacebar.

Can I buy a white set of blank keycaps and dye them? Does somebody who normally dies keycaps want to sell me some?


i think this may be more your style
http://www.amazon.com/First-Keyboard-Califone-Bright-Color/dp/B000EONVX0

but seriously, i found this
http://www.synctronics.com/contact_us.html
looks like it might be expensive, i think they mainly do bulk orders for companies
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« Reply #74 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 15:23:40 »
Well, if you're very patient there's ClickClack.  PM him.  
Email Elite Keyboards about lavendar WASD availability or a full blank white set of Filco Caps . .  
Signature Plastics could help, but you pretty much buy in bulk.
Similar story with Fentek and I think the start menu keys are out.
Too low profile.
Posting a WTB (want to buy) in the classifieds won't hurt.
Just don't place your WTB in the For Sale, like Ricercar.
I was looking for the Asian KBC keys (which also don't include start menu keys), but I didn't find them fast enough for this post.
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« Reply #75 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 15:33:43 »
Quote from: gr1m;191717
I'm serious about the colored keycaps though, any ideas where to get them from? Blank colored keycaps. My plan for the Filco NKRO tenkeyless Cherry Brown Otaku:

- Red ESC button (included)
- Any color WASD cluster (blue, green, yellow)
- Any color Start Menu keycaps
- Spacebar

So, for example:
Red ESC button, green WASD cluster, yellow Start Menu buttons and a big orange spacebar.

Can I buy a white set of blank keycaps and dye them? Does somebody who normally dies keycaps want to sell me some?
Well, there are these guys from SMC Electronics (hey, they're just a bit down the road- I may have to go visit the brick and mortar!), but they're low profile (lower even than the Filco, IIRC), and not sculpted for each row.  On the pro side, they're pretty inexpensive...
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« Reply #76 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 23:42:55 »
Ripster, your write-up (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:5603) helped solidify my decision even more. I doubt I can go wrong with a Filco tenkeyless brown.
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« Reply #77 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 11:15:35 »
Speaking of cheap Cherry keyboards, anyone have a lead for other really cheap Cherry clone or real Cherry keyboards of the Black and Brown types (and are not used P.O.S. terminal keyboards)?
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« Reply #78 on: Sat, 12 June 2010, 17:57:34 »
I am a step closer to obtaining Filco funds; I got off my fat ass and listed my monitor for sale on Kijiji. I would list it on the forums but since I only do local pickup for most items, I figure it'll be pointless.
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« Reply #79 on: Sat, 12 June 2010, 18:18:55 »
Wow, it usually takes longer for a Geekhacker to start selling stuff to satisfy their keyboard addiction. Welcome to to long and slippery slope that is life as a keyboard enthusiast.
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« Reply #80 on: Sat, 12 June 2010, 19:11:06 »
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Wow, it usually takes longer for a Geekhacker to start selling stuff to satisfy their keyboard addiction. Welcome to to long and slippery slope that is life as a keyboard enthusiast.


I shall resist! I WILL BUY THE MAJESTOUCH AND NEVER BUY ANOTHER KEYBOARD AGAIN! I AM RESILIENT!
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« Reply #81 on: Sat, 12 June 2010, 20:05:26 »
That was fast. Potential buyer already :/

Anybody think I should try to get my hands on s Cherry Red keyboard?
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« Reply #82 on: Tue, 22 June 2010, 23:43:30 »
New potential source of worry. So I was talking to one of my noob-gamer-membrane-keyboard-etc. friends (just like me) and he said he tried a mechanical and didn't like it and that it felt like ****. It had Cherry Blacks, I think it was one of those cheap Cherry boards.

Should I be worried?
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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 22 June 2010, 23:57:37 »
It's linear. Your friend's description is accurate, you have nothing to be worried about.
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« Reply #84 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 00:00:12 »
I reckon cherry blacks feel like crap, mainly because you need manly-ass fingers, and I'l a little attached to my tactile bump... Don't fear, the Browns will serve you well!
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« Reply #85 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 00:02:55 »
Quote from: gr1m;195619
New potential source of worry. So I was talking to one of my noob-gamer-membrane-keyboard-etc. friends (just like me) and he said he tried a mechanical and didn't like it and that it felt like ****. It had Cherry Blacks, I think it was one of those cheap Cherry boards.

Should I be worried?


Look at this forum, and see how opinions differ between people on which switch is the best. What some people love, others detest. Your friend's experience has absolutely no relevance to your own. His might have been a crap board, or he might just prefer 'domes. Either way, you wont know until you try. It's like asking somebody for their opinion on a type of food that you've never had.
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« Reply #86 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 00:11:19 »
I guess. But imagine you and a bunch of guys eat burgers and enjoy them. Greasy burgers. And then one day, you hear about filet mignon. It's gonna cost you a fortune. One of the guys says "Oh, I coughed up the money for a filet mignon and it wasn't good."

You're right, it doesn't mean that I will dislike the filet mignon, but I think I should consider the possibility that I might not like the filet mignon based on the similarities between the tastes of me and the other guy who dislikes it. $130 is quite a gamble for a product that I might not like.
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« Reply #87 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 00:17:30 »
"cheap cherry board" though isn't specific enough.  I mean, there are cheap cherry rubber domes, even.  Age of the board, use, etc. make a difference.  You need to know if your friend tried filet mignon or filet of unknown or past use date filet mignon, etc.
Yea, odds are if your friend popped a cap and it had a black switch, even if new, then it was a stiff black linear switch.
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« Reply #88 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 00:24:38 »
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I guess. But imagine you and a bunch of guys eat burgers and enjoy them. Greasy burgers. And then one day, you hear about filet mignon. It's gonna cost you a fortune. One of the guys says "Oh, I coughed up the money for a filet mignon and it wasn't good."

You're right, it doesn't mean that I will dislike the filet mignon, but I think I should consider the possibility that I might not like the filet mignon based on the similarities between the tastes of me and the other guy who dislikes it. $130 is quite a gamble for a product that I might not like.


Eh, life's a gamble. Even with everybody saying something is great, there's always the chance that you wont like it. (That and in the case of food, there's always the chance that what you get at one point isn't the best representative of the food. Or the cooking of it was sub-par...)

In the very least, the money spent will allow you to have a baseline experience even if you don't like it. You can then resell it, recoup some of the cost, and set out to find something that you do like with that experience in hand. Right now you don't have anything else to compare to other than the lowest common denominator (cheap domes), so having at least one mechanical board will allow you to better grasp how the other types are.
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« Reply #89 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 00:34:19 »
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"cheap cherry board" though isn't specific enough.  I mean, there are cheap cherry rubber domes, even.  Age of the board, use, etc. make a difference.  You need to know if your friend tried filet mignon or filet of unknown or past use date filet mignon, etc.
Yea, odds are if your friend popped a cap and it had a black switch, even if new, then it was a stiff black linear switch.

I meant cheap Cherry like those Cherry-branded boards that sell for $30. The switches were Cherry Blacks like I mentioned.
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« Reply #90 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 01:12:32 »
I'm guessing your friend MIGHT have tried ML switches and not MX.

Cherry ML switches are black, low-profile, and not often considered in the same class as the MX switches.  Did the stem of the switch from above look like + or did it look like | |

The ML boards are often sold much cheaper than the MX boards, but you can always find exceptions...  Some boards that are pretty common on this site are listed on ebay for over $500 on a regular basis, so my theory that he has MLs and not MXs could be dead wrong.
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« Reply #91 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 01:20:31 »
http://www.overclock.net/computer-peripherals/559872-cherry-g81-7000-resource-thread.html

These are the ones. You're right, they're not Cherry MXes. My friend was mistaken.
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« Reply #92 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 01:31:50 »
So I guess the Filco Tenkeyless NKRO Brown MX Cherry board is still on my list. I'll order it tomorrow.
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« Reply #93 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 09:57:15 »
Hello everybody,
I will use this thread as I'm basically looking for the same thing :) I hope it's okay.

Here's my story. For quite a long time I was a laptop-only user running IBM T42. Yes, as all laptops it had a crappy rubber-dome keyboard. However by many people it is considered quite good among the rest of laptops. Two years ago I switched to desktop. And I just wasn't able to find ANY desktop keyboard which would be at least comparable to the T42. In an absolute desperation I recently googled something like "the best keyboard", I don't remember exactly. And guess what :)
At last I ended up here.

So in the last two weeks I've spent considerable amount of time scanning geekhack and some other forums. I've learnt much. Thank you guys for opening my eyes. I'm going mechanical :)

Here's my problem: I need a keyboard for both working and gaming. I would really like to have something like Filco Tenkeyless NKRO with Cherry MX Browns. But as long as I live in the Czech Republic, the shipping would cost me a fortune. I guess about $160 or even more for keyboard and shipping. Which I'm not ready to pay for a keyboard I have no chance to try first. Here in the Czech there is almost impossible to get mechanical keyboard today. And trust me I've searched a lot. However there is one exception.

I found out that my nearest reseller claims he can provide SteelSeries 6Gv2 in two days. It would cost me an equivalent of $84 including tax. No shipping or sending. That's a significant difference. And I can test it before buying. Of course the keyboard itself has its drawbacks. It has MX Blacks which some say are designed for gaming only. They also claim that blacks are too stiff. But what about in comparison to domes? 6Gv2 has really weird layout (well, despite being European I prefer 103-keys US layout so its not as bad as it could be :D ) and it has no palmrest too.

Having Microsoft Wirrr...rubbish Keyboard 600 I also have no experience with mechanicals and therefore I have no comparison. Also being so hyped by you gentlemen there is a risk I can easily fall in love with the first switches I meet, even blacks ;)
So, should I try and eventually buy fulsized keyboard with blacks for gaming and writing or it would be a waste of time (and possibly money) and I should just order short browny Filco?

Thanks for your opinions.
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Under $100 mechanical keyboard for gaming and typing, possible?
« Reply #94 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 10:12:09 »
If the force is the issue, they require more force than domes, generally.  Find the force charts on here.  Otherwise, some are definitely willing to take blacks over domes.  You said you get to test it, so do so.  

If writing is more important than gaming, get the browny Filco, without question.
« Last Edit: Wed, 23 June 2010, 10:14:11 by washuai »
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Offline xavier

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« Reply #95 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 10:44:18 »
Thank you for your posts. What i see from that graphs (if that one for the rubber domes is accurate enough) is that for domes you need to overcome significant resistance at first which is bigger than initial resistance of black switch. Then the dome just collapses while black switch linearly increases its resistance all the way down. Am I right?

Well I know I should test the board if I'm considering a purchase. I just wanted to hear if the blacks are completely useless for typing under any circumstances or not. Arc'xer's got the point.

My problem with Filco is I can't test it.
« Last Edit: Wed, 23 June 2010, 10:47:00 by xavier »
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« Reply #96 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 16:47:12 »
All right, seems that graphs and comments won't substitute the actual feeling of the blacks in my decision making. I guess I'll order the 6Gv2 and return it if there was something wrong about it rather than impulsively going to Filco.
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« Reply #97 on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 19:24:28 »
I still haven't ruled the 6Gv2 out, but something niggling the back of my mind won't let me buy it instead of a Cherry Brown Filco. I've exhausted the crap out of this but I'm so goddamn torn. How disappointing will blacks be for touch-typing?
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« Reply #98 on: Thu, 24 June 2010, 22:51:35 »
I pussied out. I'm getting the 6Gv2. The fact that it lacks the left Windows button and has non-bright LEDs unlike the Filcos sealed the deal. Also, being $50 cheaper helps.
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« Reply #99 on: Thu, 24 June 2010, 23:22:18 »
Will do. Learning how to touch type is coming on rather nicely. Other than mixing up fingers occasionally (feels like I'm a guitar newb all over again), I'm doing fine. It's a lot more comfortable than using only my two index fingers I'll have to admit.
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