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Offline Bl4ck

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #750 on: Tue, 17 March 2020, 12:10:03 »
Even infinikey Hive would look dope for sure

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #751 on: Tue, 17 March 2020, 18:31:45 »
Torn between GMK Botanical or Lunar for this keeb. Plastik which one do you think would fit best with the beige/gray powder coating?

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #752 on: Tue, 17 March 2020, 18:50:35 »
You mean GMK Botanical with gray/RAL7039? It's a warm/earthy gray, so yes, this could be a good fit. Lunar with classic beige? I don't think these two go that well together. Lunar with one of the INOX versions is what I think would be very nice. Showed this combo in the last square renders.

Maybe I'll have the time to answer your question with more renderings tomorrow :)

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« Reply #753 on: Tue, 17 March 2020, 18:54:29 »
Can't wait for that. Looking forward to the gb!

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #754 on: Tue, 17 March 2020, 18:59:15 »
Hey PlastikSchnittstelle,

i just stumbled upon this Thread and had to register because of it.
I'd love to enter the GB once it goes live, but i have two questions. Sorry if those have been answered before, i couldn't find them. :)

I'd prefer a full normal (ISO 105) Keyboard, looks like the "95" version is the closest thing. But: Does that version (meaning PCB and plate) support the full normal ISO layout including the two-row Enter key and 11 instead of 10 buttons in the lowest alpha row? I'm using ISO-DE and really need that pipe/angle bracket key.
Can't tell about the Enter key from your pictures and it looks like there are only 10 keys in the bottom row?

Thanks and best wishes from Munich! :)

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #755 on: Tue, 17 March 2020, 19:26:50 »
Hey PlastikSchnittstelle,

i just stumbled upon this Thread and had to register because of it.
I'd love to enter the GB once it goes live, but i have two questions. Sorry if those have been answered before, i couldn't find them. :)

I'd prefer a full normal (ISO 105) Keyboard, looks like the "95" version is the closest thing. But: Does that version (meaning PCB and plate) support the full normal ISO layout including the two-row Enter key and 11 instead of 10 buttons in the lowest alpha row? I'm using ISO-DE and really need that pipe/angle bracket key.
Can't tell about the Enter key from your pictures and it looks like there are only 10 keys in the bottom row?

Thanks and best wishes from Munich! :)

I do think it is supported, as all variants (I think) have ISO support, and I think the keyboards are being made in germany btw

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #756 on: Tue, 17 March 2020, 19:29:44 »
Hey PlastikSchnittstelle,

i just stumbled upon this Thread and had to register because of it.
I'd love to enter the GB once it goes live, but i have two questions. Sorry if those have been answered before, i couldn't find them. :)

I'd prefer a full normal (ISO 105) Keyboard, looks like the "95" version is the closest thing. But: Does that version (meaning PCB and plate) support the full normal ISO layout including the two-row Enter key and 11 instead of 10 buttons in the lowest alpha row? I'm using ISO-DE and really need that pipe/angle bracket key.
Can't tell about the Enter key from your pictures and it looks like there are only 10 keys in the bottom row?

Thanks and best wishes from Munich! :)

Welcome to the keyboard community!

Yes, both the PCB and the plate will support those options - assuming I understood the particualar layout you mean (yes, you mean standard ISO). The renderings just show the most common ANSI layout. Here you can see all options:

238047-0

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #757 on: Tue, 17 March 2020, 20:02:23 »
Ahhhh, got it, i missed the bottom left on your picture: shorter left shift and the 11th key on the side of it. Danke! :)

Perfect, sign me up for one. I always wanted a steel keyboard and the fact that it's made at home makes it even better.
I might even be able to give up on my search for an IBM Model F with a steel case (yes, those existed) after i build this one. ;D

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #758 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 07:54:33 »
[...] Just a yellow accent makes a nice combo. Metropolis for example and the upcoming Nautilus R2.

Metropolis would have been so good, but no Norde unfortunately. Love the colors. Will get bought anyway, can decide later, which board to put it on.

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #759 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 08:17:58 »
I don't know if this has been asked before or if you stated it earlier, but how much will the TKL and almost-1800 cases cost?

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #760 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 10:41:55 »
No, prices have not been set jet. Too many variables. I only said once that it will probably be a slight bit cheaper than SKB1 was.

Really hard to say, I need updated quotes and of course it depends on how many will actually buy. I roughly estimate the SKB2-80/TKL to land at around 140€ without the PCB. The SKB2-95/1800-style might land at around 150€ without the PCB. The smaller ones will obviously be cheaper. Starting with the SKB2-40, slightly below 100€. It's all just an estimation for now.
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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #761 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 13:09:06 »
That feeling when you miss ANOTHER early bird opportunity ....  :( just please take my money haha

Offline StanleyLelnats

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #762 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 13:16:07 »
Have invoices for the early bird gone out yet?

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #763 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 13:31:13 »
Have invoices for the early bird gone out yet?

Didn't had the time jet. They will go out in a few hours.
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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #764 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 13:44:35 »
Waiting for the colorway

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #765 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 16:27:27 »
I've tried asking in Marteen discord, but will the eon series pcbs have via?

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #766 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 20:45:55 »
Btw.: What would you say about how high the chance of a future full version of this case (ISO 105 compatible plus a pcb that fits it) is? I'd really prefer that over even the 95 version. But of course i also understand that most people seem to prefer the smaller versions and you need a certain amount of cases per model to make it affordable.
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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #767 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 21:16:55 »
No, prices have not been set jet. Too many variables. I only said once that it will probably be a slight bit cheaper than SKB1 was.

Speaking of variables, any word on if you'll be able/willing to provide alternative materials for the plate from the get-go rather than just sharing files, an idea you brought up a couple weeks (or months) ago?

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #768 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 23:51:15 »
I wish you would have edited the title of the thread or started a new thread when you had the early bird round.  Watched for two weeks to get in. Hosehold has been crazy with Covid19 stuff and I didn't see it.
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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #769 on: Thu, 19 March 2020, 01:21:38 »
are any of the pcbs hotswap?

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #770 on: Thu, 19 March 2020, 05:42:12 »
Cool to see the 95% confirmed. Still, not enough demand for a separate numpad? :(

On a side note, what's that keycap set on the first 75% in the banner (that one with the yellow accents)? Perhaps GMK Lunar?

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #771 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 07:30:58 »
No, prices have not been set jet. Too many variables. I only said once that it will probably be a slight bit cheaper than SKB1 was.

Speaking of variables, any word on if you'll be able/willing to provide alternative materials for the plate from the get-go rather than just sharing files, an idea you brought up a couple weeks (or months) ago?

Not off the table, I'm still looking into that.

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #772 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 07:33:35 »
are any of the pcbs hotswap?

No, the PCBs from Maarten that will be available are not hot swapp. Though you can use other PCBs with hot swapp capability if you prefer that. The case is a top mount construction, so you don't need to worry a lot about compatibility. USB port must be at the correct position of course.

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #773 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 07:36:02 »
Btw.: What would you say about how high the chance of a future full version of this case (ISO 105 compatible plus a pcb that fits it) is? I'd really prefer that over even the 95 version. But of course i also understand that most people seem to prefer the smaller versions and you need a certain amount of cases per model to make it affordable.

Request for fullsize was by far the lowest. Will not happen for the foreseeable future. Sorry.

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #774 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 07:40:53 »
Cool to see the 95% confirmed. Still, not enough demand for a separate numpad? :(

On a side note, what's that keycap set on the first 75% in the banner (that one with the yellow accents)? Perhaps GMK Lunar?

numpad:
not throwing any more into the mix now, sorry.

keycaps in the banner:
exactly, that set is supposed to resemble GMK Lunar.

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #775 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 07:53:33 »
I've tried asking in Marteen discord, but will the eon series pcbs have via?

yes, they all support via.

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #776 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 07:54:03 »
When the buy comes out, do we have an option to buy extra boards with 1 case?

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #777 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 08:11:11 »
by boards you mean PCBs?
yes you can add the PCBs separately and as many as you like.
the plate will be included with the case but you will have the option to add another plate or more if you want.

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #778 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 09:56:36 »
PCB layouts

Here are the layouts that are supported by Maarten's PCBs and of course by the plates as well:

Eon40:
238158-0

Plain60-C:
238160-1

Eon65:
238162-2

Eon75:
238164-3

Eon87:
238166-4

Eon95:
238168-5
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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #779 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 11:09:11 »
can I buy the nuts for options?  :p

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #780 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 12:34:56 »
hehe, no, black nuts is the only option and always included.

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« Reply #781 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 12:54:53 »
75%


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« Reply #782 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 13:32:54 »
hehe, no, black nuts is the only option and always included.
Haha I means buy another set

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #783 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 13:42:57 »
There is also only 1 plate option too right?

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #784 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 13:45:11 »
hehe, no, black nuts is the only option and always included.
Haha I means buy another set

haha, I'll make sure to include enough spares.

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« Reply #785 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 13:50:03 »
hehe, no, black nuts is the only option and always included.
Haha I means buy another set

haha, I'll make sure to include enough spares.
I would like to staining the nuts,But I don't know is it working or not lol

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #786 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 13:50:23 »
There is also only 1 plate option too right?

You mean in terms of plate material?
I'm aware that many really would like to see abrass option.
It's not ruled out, I'm looking into that.

If I would decide to offer a brass plate option, I'd furthermore have to decide if the brass plate will be:
A) just untreated brass
B) bead blasted brass, no additional treatment
C) bead blasted brass with black zink treatment
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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #787 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 13:51:47 »
There is also only 1 plate option too right?

You mean in terms of plate material?
I'm aware that many really would like to see abrass option.
It's not ruled out, I'm looking into that.

If I would decide to offer a brass plate option, I'd furthermore have to decide if the brass plate will be:
A) just untreated brass
B) bead blasted brass, no additional treatement
C) bead blasted brass with black zink treatement

Yeh material, would love B or C, would probably even get both tbh

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #788 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 13:52:04 »
hehe, no, black nuts is the only option and always included.
Haha I means buy another set

haha, I'll make sure to include enough spares.
I would like to staining the nuts,But I don't know is it working or not lol

got it, ok, I'll include the option to add an extra set.

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #789 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 13:55:45 »
There is also only 1 plate option too right?

You mean in terms of plate material?
I'm aware that many really would like to see abrass option.
It's not ruled out, I'm looking into that.

If I would decide to offer a brass plate option, I'd furthermore have to decide if the brass plate will be:
A) just untreated brass
B) bead blasted brass, no additional treatement
C) bead blasted brass with black zink treatement

Yeh material, would love B or C, would probably even get both tbh

If brass will happen then only ONE option will be available
A or B or C

(the steel plate with black zink treatment would still remain the standard option)
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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #790 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 13:58:19 »
There is also only 1 plate option too right?

You mean in terms of plate material?
I'm aware that many really would like to see abrass option.
It's not ruled out, I'm looking into that.

If I would decide to offer a brass plate option, I'd furthermore have to decide if the brass plate will be:
A) just untreated brass
B) bead blasted brass, no additional treatement
C) bead blasted brass with black zink treatement

Yeh material, would love B or C, would probably even get both tbh

If brass will happen then only ONE option will be available
A or B or C
I see... well probably would prefer C to keep the all black theme that Im thinking of

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #791 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 14:02:15 »
There is also only 1 plate option too right?

You mean in terms of plate material?
I'm aware that many really would like to see abrass option.
It's not ruled out, I'm looking into that.

If I would decide to offer a brass plate option, I'd furthermore have to decide if the brass plate will be:
A) just untreated brass
B) bead blasted brass, no additional treatement
C) bead blasted brass with black zink treatement

Yeh material, would love B or C, would probably even get both tbh

If brass will happen then only ONE option will be available
A or B or C
I see... well probably would prefer C to keep the all black theme that Im thinking of

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #792 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 14:07:49 »
There is also only 1 plate option too right?

You mean in terms of plate material?
I'm aware that many really would like to see abrass option.
It's not ruled out, I'm looking into that.

If I would decide to offer a brass plate option, I'd furthermore have to decide if the brass plate will be:
A) just untreated brass
B) bead blasted brass, no additional treatment
C) bead blasted brass with black zink treatment

I would be cool with option B, but option C sounds the most interesting.

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« Reply #793 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 14:57:37 »
Not off the table, I'm still looking into that.

Great to hear. Regarding material, I'm personally not a big fan of brass - I prefer soft plates, so POM or polycarb would be super nice to see (maybe even half rather than full, don't wanna push my luck though).

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #794 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 15:04:29 »
Not off the table, I'm still looking into that.

Great to hear. Regarding material, I'm personally not a big fan of brass - I prefer soft plates, so POM or polycarb would be super nice to see (maybe even half rather than full, don't wanna push my luck though).

I too would like to see POM or PC plates. Is there a service like laserboost for plastic (POM/PC) somewhere in europe where you can get a plastic plate from a plate file?

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #795 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 17:30:50 »
Not off the table, I'm still looking into that.

Great to hear. Regarding material, I'm personally not a big fan of brass - I prefer soft plates, so POM or polycarb would be super nice to see (maybe even half rather than full, don't wanna push my luck though).

I'm also interested in flexible plates (maybe FR4 if you're already making custom PCBs) or a half-plate option. Looking forward to sale!
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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #796 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 17:53:50 »
Cool Plastik, nice you are considering alternate options to the steel plate

 + 1 C  :thumb:

Guys, the best option for a subtle "flex" uniform typing feel across the board is of course carbon fiber :p + 2

I am not sure pom or pc would work well for the larger sizes SKB2's, but i am no expert




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« Reply #797 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 21:31:15 »
Guys, the best option for a subtle "flex" uniform typing feel across the board is of course carbon fiber :p + 2

I am not sure pom or pc would work well for the larger sizes SKB2's, but i am no expert

Carbon fibre is good too. It's similar to aluminium in my experience but I like it a little bit more.

I like pom/pc/etc on larger boards too, I think it works fine - I have TKLs with POM and nylon plates in them and I love it, but yea, preference.

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Re: [IC] SKB2 - steel case, isolation top mount, powder coated or stainless
« Reply #798 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 09:20:16 »

Carbon fibre is good too. It's similar to aluminium in my experience but I like it a little bit more.

I like pom/pc/etc on larger boards too, I think it works fine - I have TKLs with POM and nylon plates in them and I love it, but yea, preference.

Cool nice! i think i am just afraid of rage quitting and cracking the pc haha
I have cf plates in my SKB1 60/65% and love it, was not to much a fan of the steel plates, really heavy bois  ^-^
The cf is really nice and with orings they removed almost all of the metal ping + with a little help from some eva foam but for me aleast they feel awesome, i sent one to Mr P. But not sure if he tried it yet  :)
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« Reply #799 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 16:33:22 »
Is there any discord for the GB btw?