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[GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« on: Sun, 17 November 2019, 13:59:36 »
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I originally created this keyboard as a personal project earlier this year as a keyboard with a layout that would work best for me in CAD and was only planning on getting one made for myself and a friend but when others heard of the board either via me or my keyset renders for GMK Night Runner they would always ask about when they could get it. So here it is, after a bit of work getting the prototypes made and ironing the bugs out, I introduce my baby the SP-111!


What does the name mean?


It has a ton of meanings to the name that most don't even realize.
 - SP: Split, Southpaw, Special. 3 meanings tied to the 3 ones in the name.
 - 111: The numbers from my username. Original meaning for the numbers in my username is my b-day, November 1st, so I had to incorporate it somehow.
 - 111: Wait, there is more meaning? Yep! The 3 prototypes (once again representing the 3 ones in the name and the 3 people with them) have a layout that has exactly 111 switches (one of the layout options).


Why is this board laid out like it is?


 - Southpaw to allow you to use the numpad and mouse at the same time (helpful for CAD and other data entry)
 - Split to allow placement in a comfortable manner for long sessions of data entry or work in general.
 - Right side layout to maintain the functionality of a full size in a much more compact manner. Hence the 1800 style arrows and vertical nav.


What mounting style is it?


 - Sandwich mount, with the plate visible around the edges and locating tabs for alignment.


What are the specs?


 - Board has a typing angle of 7 degrees (yes it is like a normal board but split, no tenting available unless you plan on drilling and tapping the case...)
 - Left side weights 1.49 Kg (3.29 lb) and the right side weights 1.3 Kg (2.87 lb). This is without pcbs, switches or caps, and there are no weights, just case and plate.
 - Board interconnect is Type-C, I am not a heathen!
 - Board connects via Type-C as well.


Is the buy limited or unlimited?


 - Unlimited of course! I don't like to run buys with a max for the sake of making it exclusive.


Will I be able to buy an extra set of pcbs?


 - Yep! You can buy extra pcbs on the side if you wish.


Will I be able to buy extra plates?


 - Yes you can!


Will the plate files be posted so I can make my own plates?


 - That is the plan, not sure exactly when I will post them (probably around delivery time?). This means you can do mirrored numpad plates and different materials to your liking just know that for the usb ports to align properly 1.5mm plates need to be used unless you make a spacer below the plate.


When will I be able to get my SP-111?


 - It will most likely ship in Q2 to be safe as it entirely depends on the quantity ordered for the lead time.


My favorite feature?


 - The smooth slope on the bottom side, which is really nice to touch when either picking it up or just thinking.

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Renders:


Featuring KAT WoB by OneCreativeMind. Note: This is the prototype layout, so the nav/F-row is a bit different.
Renders by MetallicCharles.

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KAM Little Pilot by kema.
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Board without sets:

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Layouts:


 - Before anyone asks, mirrored numpad is not supported on the plates due to the issues it brought to the table for that corner of the board (basically a super flex section that would feel horrible compared to the rest of the board). It IS supported on the PCB though if you want to get your own plates cut.

 - And as a side note, you can mix and match the bottom row options, they don't have to be both the same spacebar size, each side layout is independent of each other and the included plate supports 2.75u and 2.25u options on both halves. 3u will require a different plate just because it made the plate a bit too light on material to include. So if you feel like a 2.25u and 3u you can go for it (if you get a plate made).

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 - The following are PCB only to not have the plate be too weak and flex more than intended.

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Noteable Changes:


 - I added mirrored numpad to the pcb so you can use that if you wish to get a custom plate made
 - I added ISO support to the plate, just was on the fence for a while but decided why not?


Colors:


 - Black with sandblasted brass plate.
 - E-white with sandblasted brass plate.
 - Blue with a sandblasted brass plate.

 - Renders:
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Prototypes:


 - There were 3 prototypes made, so here are a few pictures of those for you to look at, they are an older variant of the layout so ignore that.

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Vendors:


- US: https://thekey.company/collections/sp-111
- Asia: zFrontier.com
- Europe: Candykeys.com
- Oceania: Dailyclack.com


Timeline:


 - November 22nd start date, and will run for a month.

 - Note: Proxy dates may vary.


Pricing:


 - Black or blue kit: $399
 - E-white kit: $419

 - Note: Proxy pricing may vary.


What is included?


 - Left and right case halves in your choice of finish.
 - Left and right brass plates
 - Left and right matte black pcbs (pre-programmed and QMK compatible)
 - Short type-c to type-c interconnect cable.


Special Thanks:


 - OneCreativeMind for helping me come up with this board in the beginning and the logo for the board.
 - MetallicCharles for the sexiest renders ever.


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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 18 November 2019, 09:28:01 »
Approved  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 18 November 2019, 11:53:19 »
very nice

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 18 November 2019, 14:37:22 »
glwgb. the southpaw and split are so dreamy to me, I might have to join.

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 19 November 2019, 07:20:38 »
In for one. Will definitely have to get a custom plate made for the numpad though

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 20 November 2019, 22:36:12 »
On a completely unrelated and slightly trivial note given the overall cost of the board: the interconnect cable.  How short is "short"?  What color will the cable be?

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 20 November 2019, 23:00:11 »
On a completely unrelated and slightly trivial note given the overall cost of the board: the interconnect cable.  How short is "short"?  What color will the cable be?

Undetermined atm, but likely 1ft or so and probably black? You can replace it with a custom cable like one of zaps if you wanted to (both ends type-c) as it only uses the 4 wires for USB2.0.

Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 20 November 2019, 23:29:44 »
Just had a VE.A clone with connectivity issues: maybe I moved the thing around too much, I dunno, but it's got me overthinking. If my SP-111 interconnect gets disconnected, does that bother the connected half? Any benefit to using the sort of disconnect similar to apple's magsafe so I don't inadvertently put tension on the USB-C?

BA111, you're using this board, what do you think?

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 21 November 2019, 10:50:16 »
Just had a VE.A clone with connectivity issues: maybe I moved the thing around too much, I dunno, but it's got me overthinking. If my SP-111 interconnect gets disconnected, does that bother the connected half? Any benefit to using the sort of disconnect similar to apple's magsafe so I don't inadvertently put tension on the USB-C?

BA111, you're using this board, what do you think?

I am waiting on the second pcb revision to come in to check on this. I changed quite a bit around from the v1 so don't want to comment in case it is different for some reason. They should be here soon.


Update:


GB goes live tomorrow, hope everyone is excited!

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 21 November 2019, 14:03:31 »
I signed up for a Geekhack account for this GB (long time lurker though).
Excited (as are others Iím sure) for this!

Some questions if you donít mind -

- Is the finish different texture-wise in the three colors?
- would one of the three be less prone to scratches, or perhaps reveal less if scratched?
- what color would you pair the upcoming GMK Dracula with haha

Good luck with the run!

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 21 November 2019, 14:08:12 »
I signed up for a Geekhack account for this GB (long time lurker though).
Excited (as are others Iím sure) for this!

Some questions if you donít mind -

- Is the finish different texture-wise in the three colors?
- would one of the three be less prone to scratches, or perhaps reveal less if scratched?
- what color would you pair the upcoming GMK Dracula with haha

Good luck with the run!

Welcome to GH!

1) Black and blue are both anodized so they will have a typical bead blasted and anodized texture. The E-white will feel different because it is a different process, it is an epoxy coating via electrophoresis and is somewhat similar to anodizing, but not at the same time.

2) E-white can be tougher from what I have heard, but I have no evidence to back up either way.

3) Black or E-white, both would look good but have a different look to them. So personal preference.

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 21 November 2019, 16:33:57 »
Is there any chance of posting the plate file a couple weeks before shipping the boards? That will give people time to design and get custom plates made before they get their boards.
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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 21 November 2019, 16:43:43 »
Is there any chance of posting the plate file a couple weeks before shipping the boards? That will give people time to design and get custom plates made before they get their boards.

Maybe, I haven't thought of an exact time, just a general timeframe of closer to delivery. But I have thought about doing it so people have time to get a plate cut for when the board arrives.

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 21 November 2019, 16:52:40 »
Just cleaned up the off topic discussion that took place here.  It really didn't get too heated, so don't worry about missing any of that spicy drama - it truthfully didn't belong and was distracting from the GB at hand. 

On with the buy!

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 22 November 2019, 12:51:08 »
Thanks for cleaning up the thread. It did seem tangential to the point of this group buy.

When is this likely to go live on the key.company?

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - Nov. 22nd @ TheKey.Company
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 22 November 2019, 13:14:22 »
Thanks for cleaning up the thread. It did seem tangential to the point of this group buy.

When is this likely to go live on the key.company?

It will go live at 9pm eat today and end Dec 27.

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 22 November 2019, 20:08:33 »
WE ARE LIVE!!!!


To get the board from TKC: https://thekey.company/collections/sp-111

Proxies may take a bit to get up and running but you can buy until Dec. 27th.

Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 22 November 2019, 20:45:12 »
Hey plates too! Thank you.

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 23 November 2019, 08:58:50 »
Your board looks fantastic! Having a hard time finding gmk sets with a r3  page up and down. So far it looks like Olivia++ hihihi keys will do. Could you possibly get a render of the SP111 in white with Olivia?

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 24 November 2019, 01:35:42 »
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I added ISO support to the plate, just was on the fence for a while but decided why not?

ISO layout is listed on TheKeyCompany as "PCB Supported Only" though. Did the vendors receive this update?

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 24 November 2019, 13:50:58 »
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I added ISO support to the plate, just was on the fence for a while but decided why not?

ISO layout is listed on TheKeyCompany as "PCB Supported Only" though. Did the vendors receive this update?

It has been corrected on the site now.

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 25 November 2019, 17:55:25 »
Hey, is this going up on candeykeys? Really looking forward to this keeb :)

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 26 November 2019, 12:36:18 »
Any thoughts on how the blue will match with GMK Rudy?

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 26 November 2019, 13:30:15 »
Hey, is this going up on candeykeys? Really looking forward to this keeb :)

Should be soon, They were sent the info so probably setting the pages up still.

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 29 November 2019, 04:02:46 »
Still no sign of this on the EU vendor

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 29 November 2019, 10:22:13 »
Still no sign of this on the EU vendor

Sorry for that, Hopefully they do it soon. The other proxies are up but I guess they haven't yet for some reason. :(


Update:


So far we are at 49 on just TKC, no proxies included which is really awesome! Just under a week and happy to see where this board has gone.

As for proxies, Daily Clack and zFrontier are both listed but Candykeys unfortunately hasn't yet.

Daily Clack: https://dailyclack.com/collections/group-buys/products/sp-111-split-keyboard-kit
zFrontier: https://www.zfrontier.com/m/5681
Candykeys: TBA

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 29 November 2019, 21:13:43 »
Hey mate,

I have 2 questions. Will this support Millmax sockets specifically 0305? Also I'm a tad new and was wondering what exactly layout wise you mean PCB supported only?

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 01 December 2019, 11:58:56 »
Hey mate,

I have 2 questions. Will this support Millmax sockets specifically 0305? Also I'm a tad new and was wondering what exactly layout wise you mean PCB supported only?

In regards to millmax 0305 I know they are slightly smaller than the holes in the pcb not sure if they will work as I don't have any on hand to test with so I don't want to say yes.

And PCB supported only means the pcb has the switch locations but the plate does not have a cutout to support it, meaning you need a custom plate for those. It was a way to give more support for those that wanted it without making the plate too light on material.

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 13:23:02 »
so is this at all happening on candykeys or not? its a week now.

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 15:21:52 »
so is this at all happening on candykeys or not? its a week now.

It should be soon, I can't control when they launch things so it would always be smarter to ask them as that is their end not mine. So if they still don't have it up today, ask them.

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[GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 08:43:08 »
Im looking to get the KAM little pilot set to use in this board. Right now Iím looking at the alphas, base mods, num pad, and 40ís. Just wanted to double check before I buy.
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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 10:30:10 »
White or Black??
I can't decided...
Most of my keycaps are white alphas with colored mods..

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Re: [GB] SP-111 - Split Southpaw Keyboard - LIVE until Dec. 27th
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 10:39:52 »
Im looking to get the KAM little pilot set to use in this board. Right now Iím looking at the alphas, base mods, num pad, and 40ís. Just wanted to double check before I buy.

I think that will cover everything.

White or Black??
I can't decided...
Most of my keycaps are white alphas with colored mods..

Hard choice.