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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #50 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 21:10:50 »
nice

can't wait to add this to the Beige collection

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #51 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 22:39:53 »
nice

can't wait to add this to the Beige collection

Beige is bae

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #52 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 23:09:30 »
hyped

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #53 on: Sun, 05 July 2020, 02:47:58 »
Ez buy

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #54 on: Sun, 05 July 2020, 03:49:47 »
Any chance for separate UK and EU vendors like in this GB?
Nothing against Jae but the exchange rate and shipping costs from UK are a deal breaker (and not just for me).

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 04:07:59 »
My 9009 is patiently waiting for the extension kit  :p
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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 11:50:33 »
Quick update:

Got quotes from GMK and as it turns out this will require 43 new moulds, however we're proceeding with doubleshot since I think it's important these moulds do exist  ;D

Still looking for an NA vendor so if you are interested please reach out!

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 13:22:21 »
Quick update:

Got quotes from GMK and as it turns out this will require 43 new moulds, however we're proceeding with doubleshot since I think it's important these moulds do exist  ;D

Still looking for an NA vendor so if you are interested please reach out!

Oooof.

Have you tried reaching out to some NA vendors already? I think vendors normally expect designers to reach out and not the other way around. I understand they may already have slots filled out for most if not all of the rest of this year.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 13:27:25 »
Quick update:

Got quotes from GMK and as it turns out this will require 43 new moulds, however we're proceeding with doubleshot since I think it's important these moulds do exist  ;D

Still looking for an NA vendor so if you are interested please reach out!

Oooof.

Have you tried reaching out to some NA vendors already? I think vendors normally expect designers to reach out and not the other way around. I understand they may already have slots filled out for most if not all of the rest of this year.

Reached out to a couple, but it doesnít hurt to ask here too just in case. Personally I donít think it would hurt to run this alongside something else as itís not a full set, though ultimately thatís up to the vendor.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 13:28:34 »
Quick update:

Got quotes from GMK and as it turns out this will require 43 new moulds, however we're proceeding with doubleshot since I think it's important these moulds do exist  ;D

Still looking for an NA vendor so if you are interested please reach out!

Oooof.

Have you tried reaching out to some NA vendors already? I think vendors normally expect designers to reach out and not the other way around. I understand they may already have slots filled out for most if not all of the rest of this year.

Reached out to a couple, but it doesnít hurt to ask here too just in case. Personally I donít think it would hurt to run this alongside something else as itís not a full set, though ultimately thatís up to the vendor.

It may be worth trying to reach out to all of those that you know of. Exactly as you said, they may be able to handle the logistics as it is a smaller, single-kit buy.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 14:13:10 »
Hope this one gets off the ground. Would love to see this add-on kit get made as well as other designers take advantage of the molds.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 15:07:01 »
I don't understand what the Tab keys are for, but I've been looking for an alpha kit to cover 40% boards, and this is it.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 05/07)
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 19:30:49 »
I don't understand what the Tab keys are for, but I've been looking for an alpha kit to cover 40% boards, and this is it.

Since this alpha add-on kit is supposed to be paired with an existing beige keyset, the extra Tab lets you reuse half of the mods and the original alphas from that keyset to fully cover another keyboard (assuming it uses a different layout). Most keysets come with different options for the mods (stepped/non-stepped Caps, regular/tsangan bottom row etc.) — Tab is the only key that comes in a single copy. That's why alpha add-on kits like this include a second Tab; essentially, so that you can use the remainder of your set so it doesn't go to waste.
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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 13:51:04 »
very nice. definite cop.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit
« Reply #64 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 09:39:27 »
Any news on this?



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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit
« Reply #65 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 15:27:13 »
No pricing yet, but have got an NA vendor now!

Iím happy to announce Project Keyboard will be running this set on the North American side  ;D

No confirmed date yet but expect this to be soonô

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 17:03:19 »
Black and beige are still my preferred colors. Cannot be more bloody-boring.



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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #67 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 18:21:23 »
Very excited for this!!!

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 18:52:29 »
Considering this will be pretty expensive for an alpha kit (new molds and all) running it along a classic retro set (or expending it to include mods) might work better.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 23:32:15 »
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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 05:42:52 »
Considering this will be pretty expensive for an alpha kit (new molds and all) running it along a classic retro set (or expending it to include mods) might work better.

+1 It'd be interesting to see what the cost would be for a full base kit with these alphas vs. just the alphas themselves. Could be worth looking in to!

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 05:45:40 »
Considering this will be pretty expensive for an alpha kit (new molds and all) running it along a classic retro set (or expending it to include mods) might work better.

+1 It'd be interesting to see what the cost would be for a full base kit with these alphas vs. just the alphas themselves. Could be worth looking in to!

hmmmmmm yes...yes... +1

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 06:00:35 »
need this pls

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 11:41:28 »
have you thought about doing a set with red sublegends yet ?

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #74 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 07:28:37 »
have you thought about doing a set with red sublegends yet ?

It was mentioned in this IC before and that would require for the sublegends to be pad printed. Not the best solution

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #75 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 11:19:32 »
Man, would love a cryllic only version of this!

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 09:37:22 »
have you thought about doing a set with red sublegends yet ?


That idea has been ditched, already.



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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 20:45:41 »
keen for this

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #78 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 02:09:44 »
I'd be interested depending on pricing. Would be a cool addition to Beta

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #79 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 12:47:03 »
this is HOT. looking forward to the GB phase  :D
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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #80 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 22:44:13 »
This is super exciting.
Would be even better if this set could use T0mb3ry's font for Cyrillic's, as the OG Cherry one has been historically quite crooked.
Either way im in.
(Edit: just read the update on discord about the use of T0mb3ry's sublegends. This is actually amazing, i cant wait)
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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #81 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 22:58:01 »
Definitely in

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #82 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 23:20:09 »
Proper Cyrillic legends, let's go.

Since it's not a replica of OG set now, would love to see Ё and / on the right spots as described here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108456.msg2954972#msg2954972
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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 10 September 2020, 04:42:36 »
Proper Cyrillic legends, let's go.

Since it's not a replica of OG set now, would love to see Ё and / on the right spots as described here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108456.msg2954972#msg2954972

This is indeed the plan. The ň placement change was actually something introduced in some later Cherry boards however it for whatever reason never made its way into modern Russian sets.

Iím waiting on some updated stuff for renders right now but will post it all when itís done.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 10 September 2020, 22:55:56 »
Proper Cyrillic legends, let's go.

Since it's not a replica of OG set now, would love to see Ё and / on the right spots as described here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108456.msg2954972#msg2954972

This is indeed the plan. The ň placement change was actually something introduced in some later Cherry boards however it for whatever reason never made its way into modern Russian sets.

Iím waiting on some updated stuff for renders right now but will post it all when itís done.

Awesome. I was following that thread and forgot to post the link to that insightful post here. Glad someone else did!

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #85 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 11:47:06 »
It's interesting. But same color between main-legend and sub-legend looks busy, I was wondering if sub-legend color is another shade of beige.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #86 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:31:56 »
It's interesting. But same color between main-legend and sub-legend looks busy, I was wondering if sub-legend color is another shade of beige.

If you use a third color, it'll have to be pad-printed.

The reason it is being done with only one color for both the main and the sublegend is so that the entire legend set can be double-shot. It'll be the first in its kind (Cyrillic sublegend) to be done in this form, much like Hangul Beige and Greek Beige have been done.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (NA vendor announced)
« Reply #87 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:50:58 »
This is nice. Very useful to change out the shined alphas on my 9009

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 15/10)
« Reply #88 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 06:53:12 »
Update 15/10:

New kit render added. Since none of these moulds exist and we're making them all for this project, the best thing to do is make it as accurate to actual Cyrillic as possible. Many thanks to konstantin for running me through this a while back, T0mb3ry for giving permission to use his Cyrillics, and allu for doing the render for the kit and having such incredible attention to detail. I am hoping to run this relatively soon - reaching out for a new quote now with this kit.

Changelog:

- grave, Q, W, E, U, I, O, P, ], A, S, G, K, L, semi-colon, apostrophe, Z, X, B, M, comma, period: all using T0mb3ry's mono Cyrillics as sublegends
- R, T, Y, [, D, F, H, J, C, V, N: all using Cherry Latin as sublegends
- the '/' tertiary legend on the pipe key has been put in the top right to be more accurate to the way it's used
- R3 pipe key added to support Russian ISO layouts
- ň position changed to bottom right of the keycap to be consistent with the rest of the Cyrillic. This is a change that Cherry made in their later Cyrillic boards that hasn't translated through to a lot of modern sets.



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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 15/10)
« Reply #89 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 08:41:43 »
Looking good!

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 15/10)
« Reply #90 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 09:16:37 »
Can you potentially include an Ansi enter? I have quite a few OG ISO doubleshot sets, and it would allow me to use this add-on kit with them and convert the layout to ansi

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 15/10)
« Reply #91 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 09:43:55 »
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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 15/10)
« Reply #92 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 10:03:17 »
Can you potentially include an Ansi enter? I have quite a few OG ISO doubleshot sets, and it would allow me to use this add-on kit with them and convert the layout to ansi

I was also thinking about suggesting this. Usually, sets only include an extra Tab key in their alphas kit because the base kit comes with an accent Enter option, which makes it two ANSI Enter keys in base, so an extra one in alphas isn't needed. But in this case, since the target for this add-on are OG doubleshot sets among others, it might be a good idea to include two extra ANSI Enters (one icon, one icon+text) since OG sets don't come with any extra ANSI Enter keys; and in the case of OG ISO sets (which are quite common), they come with none at all.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 15/10)
« Reply #93 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 13:32:46 »
Can you potentially include an Ansi enter? I have quite a few OG ISO doubleshot sets, and it would allow me to use this add-on kit with them and convert the layout to ansi

I was also thinking about suggesting this. Usually, sets only include an extra Tab key in their alphas kit because the base kit comes with an accent Enter option, which makes it two ANSI Enter keys in base, so an extra one in alphas isn't needed. But in this case, since the target for this add-on are OG doubleshot sets among others, it might be a good idea to include two extra ANSI Enters (one icon, one icon+text) since OG sets don't come with any extra ANSI Enter keys; and in the case of OG ISO sets (which are quite common), they come with none at all.

If this support is to be added, I would personally recommend also having a left Shift support added as well.

Any conversion from ISO to ANSI will require those three keys (at minimum): Left Shift, Enter, and pipe (which we already have)

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 15/10)
« Reply #94 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 13:45:46 »
Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I'll pass. The initial quote we received was much more on the expensive side and though adding, say, an icon enter + 2.25 shift would make it able to convert ISO OG doubleshot sets to ANSI I don't think that's the direction I want to go here. It'd be a nice change for a small number of people but I think for the majority of buyers it would mean more money being put into keycaps they're not gonna use.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 15/10)
« Reply #95 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 15:18:16 »
ne second b avail?

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 15/10)
« Reply #96 on: Sat, 17 October 2020, 17:05:13 »
Placing my interest in this. I love these kinds of sublegend add-on kits.

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 15/10)
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 19 October 2020, 17:21:44 »
Can you sell this as full kit (at least as base kit and separate alphas kit for a bit cheaper)? I don't have beige set so even though I am interested in doubleshot russian sublegends it is not worth for me to buy this as separate and I think not only me

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 15/10)
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 19 October 2020, 18:09:26 »
Can you sell this as full kit (at least as base kit and separate alphas kit for a bit cheaper)? I don't have beige set so even though I am interested in doubleshot russian sublegends it is not worth for me to buy this as separate and I think not only me

there's an IC for JTK Retro Cyrillic which is pretty similar, if you don't mind the red sublegends

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Re: [IC] GMK Cyrillic Beige Add-on Kit (Updated 15/10)
« Reply #99 on: Tue, 20 October 2020, 05:24:17 »
Can you sell this as full kit (at least as base kit and separate alphas kit for a bit cheaper)? I don't have beige set so even though I am interested in doubleshot russian sublegends it is not worth for me to buy this as separate and I think not only me

GMK Missing keys is an adapter kit, and will be rerun soon. Worth a shot