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[IC] GMK Rouge - *GB THREAD UP*
« on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 14:47:54 »
GB THREAD!

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Yes, I know that rouge means red in french ;)
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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 14:51:20 »
Why is it not red?

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 14:52:25 »
I'm out of keyboards but I got an email, I like it, I thought the colour shift over the top numerics was a light truck in the render. Very clever. Good luck with it man!

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 14:53:15 »
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glad i can see what the keyset will look like next to my make up brush and flowers

also make the heart the same height as the other sublegends on numrow thanks
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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 14:53:25 »
Why is it not red?

One of those mysteries that I doubt will be solved during our lifetime

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 14:56:35 »
nice
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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 14:57:50 »
also make the heart the same height as the other sublegends on numrow thanks

I kept it the same as the OG pad print, imo it adds an interesting dimension to the whole character of the set! :D

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 14:58:46 »
Has anyone run these pics of GMK "Rouge" through a colorblind filter? I don't see the red 0_o

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 14:58:52 »
also make the heart the same height as the other sublegends on numrow thanks

I kept it the same as the OG pad print, imo it adds an interesting dimension to the whole character of the set! :D

looks way out of place imo, would rather it be in line

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 15:20:31 »
Nice green set, I need it !
(Those renders are stunning, great job) :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 15:21:16 »
also make the heart the same height as the other sublegends on numrow thanks

I kept it the same as the OG pad print, imo it adds an interesting dimension to the whole character of the set! :D

looks way out of place imo, would rather it be in line

^ this

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 15:23:26 »
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glad i can see what the keyset will look like next to my make up brush and flowers

also make the heart the same height as the other sublegends on numrow thanks

what brand eyeliner do you use? u look great in your selfies and i want the same look...
      

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 15:34:15 »
mmhhhh.... I'm in

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 15:36:23 »
also make the heart the same height as the other sublegends on numrow thanks

I kept it the same as the OG pad print, imo it adds an interesting dimension to the whole character of the set! :D

looks way out of place imo, would rather it be in line

^ this

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 15:37:14 »
incredible renders, v nice set.

ne centered icons avail?

edit: /s for anyone wondering
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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 15:39:20 »
incredible renders, v nice set.

ne centered icons avail?

Set designed by Emir, centered icons will never happen.

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 15:46:27 »
love it

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 15:50:22 »
Perhaps a long shot question here, but I’m actually very interested in the cross compatibility of the 1, 2, 3, and 4 keys as unique accents with other GMK sets. Any chance of having a “novelty” set that contains those separately?

The color choices are sublime. It’s evocative of something familiar, but also has its own flair. Well done!

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 16:01:01 »
love the set! any chance for window icon :)?

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 16:09:03 »
also make the heart the same height as the other sublegends on numrow thanks

I kept it the same as the OG pad print, imo it adds an interesting dimension to the whole character of the set! :D

looks way out of place imo, would rather it be in line

^ this

Aye

^ agreed

I also don't understand the reason for calling this set "rouge"
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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 16:20:50 »
Quick question: what is the intended row profile? 1-1-2-3-4-4?

Quick feedback: you may want to add a 2@ key in the extras kit (both versions), so the loveless lonely gits like me can actually consider this set.

Quick pet peeve: lose the pipe tertiary legend in the ISO extra alpha (yes, this is coming from "Mr. Tertiary Layers rule!").

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 16:25:57 »
Quick question: what is the intended row profile? 1-1-2-3-4-4?

Quick feedback: you may want to add a 2@ key in the extras kit (both versions), so the loveless lonely gits like me can actually consider this set.

Quick pet peeve: lose the pipe tertiary legend in the ISO extra alpha (yes, this is coming from "Mr. Tertiary Layers rule!").

1. Yes! Right now, anyway

2. Very good suggestion, it also adresses a lot of feedback raised on the unaligned heart (which I want to keep the OG way). I'll definitely look into that!

3. We've had this discussion many times - no, sorry! :D

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 16:30:18 »
Hi
Thanks for reminding me of how much a basic b* I am. I'm in.

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 16:44:47 »
<3

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 16:55:53 »
Great set and outstanding renders!

Im really interested in how the gradient will turn out.

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 01:08:45 »
Hi
Thanks for reminding me of how much a basic b* I am. I'm in.


Ma Boi 😍

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Also regarding the name: yes I am aware that Rouge means red in French as stated in the OP. It's meant as a reference to Rouge make up palettes as depicted in the images, and yes I am aware they're most often in different shades of red (but not exclusively). I was never good with names, but That's the reference. Hope that clears things up! :)


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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 01:13:21 »
Amazing renders, Mac.

<3 2, I'm in

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 01:40:49 »
Damn, looking hot!  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 01:54:33 »
Really nice

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 02:03:36 »
Some next level renders there, GL with IC!

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 02:22:26 »
Could you upgrade the ISO to UK-ISO? Or at the very least make split shift key |\ and key to the left of ISO enter ~#.

Is the <> a thing that many people use? I think I wouldn't buy the numpad + ISO kit in it's current form.

Something more like what GMK Minimal did would be better if you really wanna cut down on the number of keys in that kit: https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-minimal-addon-kit_939/

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 02:35:13 »
Could you upgrade the ISO to UK-ISO? Or at the very least make split shift key |\ and key to the left of ISO enter ~#.

Is the <> a thing that many people use? I think I wouldn't buy the numpad + ISO kit in it's current form.

Something more like what GMK Minimal did would be better if you really wanna cut down on the number of keys in that kit: https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-minimal-addon-kit_939/

Heyo!

I like to do it this way as it's the only way to provide a complete ISO layout with only 4 keys. I don't like the approach where you introduce 1-2 1u keys out of an ISO layout that has more than triple that amount to for it to be complete, it looks and feels off IMO.
This is the ISO-US Terminal layout, and even though no one uses it, it provides physical coverage while not duplicating keys (some sets do two pipeslash) or having incomplete layouts.

As for <>, it's probably the single most common 1u ISO key across all layouts, at least to my knowledge, depletedvespene can confirm or deny that for me. :P

I hope that explains it! :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 03:08:45 »
OMFG those renders look second to none. So much better than what most other designers provide. Nice colorway - not the usual dark mods, light alphas kind of set.

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 03:13:34 »
This is the ISO-US Terminal layout, and even though no one uses it, it provides physical coverage while not duplicating keys (some sets do two pipeslash) or having incomplete layouts.

"Even though no one uses it" :eek:

Why would you include keys that nobody uses?
With any other ISO keys you'll have at least three people using it, better than zero. Noh? ;D


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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 03:26:15 »
This is the ISO-US Terminal layout, and even though no one uses it, it provides physical coverage while not duplicating keys (some sets do two pipeslash) or having incomplete layouts.

"Even though no one uses it" :eek:

Why would you include keys that nobody uses?
With any other ISO keys you'll have at least three people using it, better than zero. Noh? ;D

I see what you mean, but as I said, to me it doesn't make sense for someone to have two keys that are correct while missing a bunch of others. Oh, and in my opinion it looks the best, too. :D

Most users in this community do not rely on legends in order to type (maybe special tertiary characters etc are an exception). Therefore, having a visual incomplete set isn't what I want to provide. That is why I rather offer a complete layout and aesthetically pleasing variant over a 1/4th of a layout whereas if they rely on legends anyway, they can't really do it regardless as it's missing a bunch of keys.

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 03:56:53 »
Really nice,



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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 08:00:22 »
Could you upgrade the ISO to UK-ISO? Or at the very least make split shift key |\ and key to the left of ISO enter ~#.

Is the <> a thing that many people use? I think I wouldn't buy the numpad + ISO kit in it's current form.

Something more like what GMK Minimal did would be better if you really wanna cut down on the number of keys in that kit: https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-minimal-addon-kit_939/

Heyo!

I like to do it this way as it's the only way to provide a complete ISO layout with only 4 keys. I don't like the approach where you introduce 1-2 1u keys out of an ISO layout that has more than triple that amount to for it to be complete, it looks and feels off IMO.
This is the ISO-US Terminal layout, and even though no one uses it, it provides physical coverage while not duplicating keys (some sets do two pipeslash) or having incomplete layouts.

As for <>, it's probably the single most common 1u ISO key across all layouts, at least to my knowledge, depletedvespene can confirm or deny that for me. :P

I hope that explains it! :)

I have been summoned.

When it comes to keycap sets, almost all start off using the English (USA) national layout, and many have support only for ANSI (remember the English (USA) national layout was written with the ANSI and ANSISO physical layout variants in mind); fortunately, this has changed and the vertical ("ISO") Enter key is now present most of the time.

To add proper physical support for actual ISO keyboards (not just ANSISO), there are two main traditions regarding the R4 "extra" alpha: in the PC style, you simply repeat the \| key (already present in R2 or R3), while in the terminal style, a <> key is added instead.

Both traditions have advantages and disadvantages: \| is what Microsoft actually implements, <> avoids the crappy look of a repeated key (No Alice users in this thread? Good!); \| gets to be reused in the English (UK) and Portuguese (Brazil) national layouts; <> gets to be reused in the Norwegian, Spanish (Spain), Spanish (Latin America), Portuguese (Portugal), Italian and French national layouts (and this is discounting the versions with a tertiary legend: <>| and <>\). All y'all take a look at http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/A-Visual-Comparison-of-Different-National-Layouts/ and be amazed.

With that said, as it stands now, the keycap set has proper(*) support for English (USA) over ANSI, ANSISO and ISO (terminal style) (and ISANSI (terminal style) too, but no one cares about that).

In order to fully support the English (UK) over ISO national layout (current usage, not the "proper standard" — see the comparison diagram in http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/A-Visual-Comparison-of-Different-National-Layouts/#enUK), quite a few keys would need to be added:

R1: `¬¦    (in both colors)   4$€ (in both colors); 2" (in the extras kit, in both colors).
R3: '@   #~
R4: \|   AltGr

Eleven extra keys in total (note a second `¬¦ is unnecessary, given that alphas and mods have the same color), which is a lot. With some effort and questionable design decisions, this could be trimmed a bit:
- Two keys less if we all choose to turn a blind eye to the tertiary legend in 4$€ (it follows that the '¦' in `¬¦ should also get the axe, but that doesn't change the key count)
- One key less if the terminal style is replaced with the PC style on the R4 extra alpha.
- One key less if the AltGr key is omitted (EW, don't do that!).


Lewisflude is suggesting going with "partial British" ISO support, which consists of replacing R4 <> with R4 \| and adding R3 #~, for the grand total of just one more key.

Emir comments that R4 <> is far more common than R4 \| across all layouts, which IS true, but... it is also true that only one national layout (English (USA)) is being supported in this set, with this discussion being about completing support for a second one (English (UK)).

What to do? It's up to the runner, of course, but... how about adding TWO keys (R4 \| and R3 #~) to the numiso kit? This would expand its support to English (USA) terminal style, English (USA) PC style and the "partial" English (UK) layout. Both keycaps are common, so the cost of extra molds wouldn't be an issue, and the extra total cost for the kit should be negligible.

HTH!



(*) It should be <>, not <>|, but Emir likes it like that, and since we're talking about traditions here, I can't really tell him "Follow the spec, dammit!".

(**) Perhaps it should be <>♥ instead of <>|, because ISO IS LOVE, ISO IS LIFE. :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 08:17:53 »
mans knows his ISO, was expecting a yes/no answer but got a master thesis writeup. :D

So yes, <> is the most common 1u key! Question answered, thanks a lot depletedvespene!

ISO is unfortunately unlikely to change, this is how I like to kit ISO within 4 keys restriction because of mentioned reasons. Sorry to everyone wanting a different version!

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 08:46:15 »
Oh dang - this looks amazing!

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 09:05:47 »
fixed your art




I'm joking please I beg you
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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 09:17:11 »
LOL


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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 10:44:14 »
For once, I don't have any complaints about the kitting. :)

Just put that heart back in line.


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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 14:01:45 »
Just put that heart back in line.

I want to keep it OG as mentioned before! There's beauty in the inconsistent. :D

buuuuut - here's for whoever isn't a fan of the OG legend, updated numpad kit to include normal @2:

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 14:40:22 »
hangul and im in!!

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 15:48:35 »
ISO is unfortunately unlikely to change, this is how I like to kit ISO within 4 keys restriction because of mentioned reasons. Sorry to everyone wanting a different version!

What's the reason for keeping the tertiary | legend? Just wondering. Seems kind of unnecessary and also inconsistent.

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 15:56:41 »
ISO is unfortunately unlikely to change, this is how I like to kit ISO within 4 keys restriction because of mentioned reasons. Sorry to everyone wanting a different version!

What's the reason for keeping the tertiary | legend? Just wondering. Seems kind of unnecessary and also inconsistent.

It's technically not incorrect, and as I said, There's beauty in the inconsistent. :P

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Re: [IC] GMK Rouge
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 15:58:58 »
Fine man, you do you. :D By the way, I may have spoken too soon about the kitting: I just noticed that the 40s kit has one 1.75u spacebar. I believe there should be two, as one of the very few 40% keyboards that use that size actually needs two 1.75u spacebars.