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[IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 18:56:08 »
IC FORM: https://forms.gle/LgJMctueHTgbSffU8




Hi everyone. I am back with Rev 2 of the PLA75. Let me get you a changelog:
  • Raised front height by 1 mm – to allow for more flex on the bottom row, and prevent screw in stabilizers from banging the bottom case. As a consequence, it changed the typing angle ever so slightly from 4.94 to 5.35 degrees. This should be a welcome change as it seems that people enjoy something closer to 6-7 degrees.
  • Increased the relief cut around the plate – this is just more insurance that the plate is completely isolated from the case.
  • Raised edge height (with respect to keycaps) – on Rev 1 I could see the keycap bottoms if I looked at it from certain angles and I didn’t like that. Moved it from 7.25 mm from the top of the plate to 8 mm. I also reduced the chamfer as that as adding to the adverse visual effect.
  • Backed the bezel off from the keycaps a bit more. There were no issues with keycaps rubbing on the case sides, but it was a little too close for comfort, and having a little more experience with 3D printing now I decided to add just a tiny bit of wiggle room. Flipped spacebar folks rejoice.
  • Made the f****** screw holes bigger. Not sure what happened on Rev 1, but sometimes printers undersize holes. (For those interested in why, imagine if you had to approximate a circle with a pentagon, and then drew the biggest circle you could within said pentagon. That is how CAD files are converted to 3D printing files, as they are just a collection of points in space that connect to one another, and you are going to want to approximate circles to save on points/data.) TL;DR, oversize your holes even more than you already did.
  • Made the f****** nut slots smaller. The nuts friction fit now. No more glue/tedious assembly. Just give em a good shove and forget about them.
  • Fixed plates. KBDfans had the wrong layout specified for the split space on the KBD75 PCB, and I made the plates according to that ☹. I also discovered a new weird split space layout that isn’t documented. See the KLE below for all supported layouts. I also made them white for better RBG brightness.
KLE:
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Here are some things I am experimenting with for this coming GB:

  • Back cut to make the case sleeker and less blocky. Let me know if you like it

  • The option for a weight. Target is 2.5 lb (1.1 kg) which would make the whole board around 3.5 lb (1.6 kg) kg, and 4.6 lb (2.1 kg) built.
  • I am experimenting with flat sheet gaskets instead of cord. Got some ordered today and we will see if they make any difference. I suspect they will be a pain because you cannot get them to stay without glue, unlike the cord which just snaps in and out of the wells.

I plan on running this in the next month or so. Everything I need for PCBs, plates and cases is up and running, so things should go smoothly with a very fast turnaround time. I am printing the cases here in Canada this round, with some help from smyjpmu of protocases.com. I am sure that the quality will be on par with keyboardbelles from Rev 1 😊.

FAQ

More
Ne spots avail?

He has no problem doing a fulfillment of 75 units, so there should be more spots this time than previous.

Cost?

I am aiming for the target of $185 for a full kit, which is what Rev 1 was, however keyboardbelle had a larger operation which allowed for lower printing prices, so the change in case maker may result in a small price bump.

When?

After a final round of prototypes and some administrative stuff I should be good to go. Call it a month.

How fast do I need to be?

Rev 1 was 50 spots, and sold out in 8 hours in Oct 2019, for your reference.

Album
https://imgur.com/a/7vAN7bK

Thanks to Hiney, Soft, Alas, protocases, and saltrocklamp for all the help.

Let me know your questions/suggestions!


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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 19:01:20 »
Renders and images are coming. Also reserved!

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« Reply #2 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 19:08:31 »
 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 19:10:47 »
That ISO Enter in KLE is wrong

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« Reply #4 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 19:13:30 »
That ISO Enter in KLE is wrong

ISO itself is wrong.

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 14 April 2020, 14:48:03 »
Nice, hope to hop on this time - r1 seemed like a nice and fast gb

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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 14 April 2020, 16:37:38 »
Awesome, I was hoping you'd do another round of these! Loving the changes, GL moving this forward!

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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 14 April 2020, 20:38:14 »
Love love love my R1, definitely going to snag an R2 if the price is right.

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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 14 April 2020, 20:42:25 »
I was just looking for one of the r1s on the aftermarket too.
Glad you are gonna do another round

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 14 April 2020, 22:06:47 »
Dammit! Why do all the good boards run when I've already bought other stuff? Best of luck, and here's to hoping I pull the money out of my ass for one of these.

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 14 April 2020, 23:59:45 »
Veeeeeeeeeeery interesting.. so these are actually PLA? Kind of impressive due to the look of the finish man.

Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 00:11:51 »
I like the cut back. Dig this one overall, hope I can grab one

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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 00:15:47 »
very tempting, the R1 was incredible value and am sorely tempted by the idea of R2. will be following the design changes closely

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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 00:40:11 »
Veeeeeeeeeeery interesting.. so these are actually PLA? Kind of impressive due to the look of the finish man.

Yep, other than the plate (fr4) these are all PLA!

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 02:08:59 »
Looks nice! Am a newcomer to the keeb game and I see a lot about gasket mounts, and this looks right up my alley design wise too. Glwgb! Hope to snag one myself

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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 04:41:25 »
I MAY like no-angled back better... but idk which is what i like...
stay or have option the block case like r1 as you can XD

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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 05:03:10 »
Looking good.  :thumb:

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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 05:28:27 »
I would be SO down to get one of these, especially with that projected price point

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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 14:30:33 »
I prefer r1 case.
PLEASE remain the case design.

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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 17:10:51 »
What is the option for tge weight?
Is that replacable?

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 19:48:40 »
R2 prototypes have been paid for and are being made this week. Assuming all is well, I will get a final GB price nailed down, and decide on the options available. I'd like to offer as much as I can, but it is ultimately up to how many colors and variations that the printer is comfortable ordering/handling. I will not be offering the 30+ colors I did last time, but rather a collection of the most popular ones from the last GB, and some fresh ones I think will be nice. I might also have an option to have a one off color printed for a small fee.

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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 16 April 2020, 01:07:17 »
R2 prototypes have been paid for and are being made this week. Assuming all is well, I will get a final GB price nailed down, and decide on the options available. I'd like to offer as much as I can, but it is ultimately up to how many colors and variations that the printer is comfortable ordering/handling. I will not be offering the 30+ colors I did last time, but rather a collection of the most popular ones from the last GB, and some fresh ones I think will be nice. I might also have an option to have a one off color printed for a small fee.

nice idea :)
thank you

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« Reply #22 on: Fri, 17 April 2020, 09:49:02 »
https://forms.gle/LgJMctueHTgbSffU8

IC form is here, and also at the very top of the OP. Please fill it out if you want a notification as soon as the GB goes live.

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« Reply #23 on: Fri, 17 April 2020, 13:53:15 »
Any considerations for adding a blocker?

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« Reply #24 on: Fri, 17 April 2020, 17:24:10 »
Any considerations for adding a blocker?



Been talking with some other people about how to best add it, and because of the compact bottom row, there is no way to get it "perfect"... Either way you have 2 different sized blockers, or you have the spacebar without an alt key next to it on the left end.

Those who want blockers feel free to weigh in on what seems best - the model is easy to update, so I should be able to accommodate whatever layouts.

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« Reply #25 on: Fri, 17 April 2020, 19:14:58 »
Hey I like your approuch very much. What about ISO support? If that would be an option, I'd fill out the IC form!

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« Reply #26 on: Fri, 17 April 2020, 19:16:45 »
Hey I like your approuch very much. What about ISO support? If that would be an option, I'd fill out the IC form!

Yeah, this has had ISO since R1. KLE is in the OP of this thread.

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« Reply #27 on: Fri, 17 April 2020, 19:20:08 »
Oh I'm blind pleas pardon me :( But that... enter .. it's turned?

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« Reply #28 on: Sat, 18 April 2020, 09:41:16 »
Oh I'm blind pleas pardon me :( But that... enter .. it's turned?

Yeah KLE was being difficult. It is all correct don't worry :)

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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 19 April 2020, 16:01:16 »
About when can i get it?

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« Reply #30 on: Sun, 19 April 2020, 16:08:24 »
About when can i get it?

I need to get my prototypes made, and iron out any kinks. 2-3 weeks until the group buy opens if no delays appear.

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 20 April 2020, 04:46:36 »


So, just a small update - we tried some filament from a local Canadian supplier, and it just didn't give the shine through effect like my R1 cases (pictured). I want to make sure that my cases look as good as ever, so I have reached out to the American supplier of the clear filament from R1. This may add a week to the prototyping time, and shouldn't effect the cost too much, as bulk pricing should offset the price of shipping 50 kg of filament across the border. I'm going to try and get a sample to the printer ASAP so we can double check the translucency, and then the GB should be ready to begin :)


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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 20 April 2020, 13:56:09 »
how many gaskets?

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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 20 April 2020, 14:01:33 »
Looks really nice, is there any build video available from r1? Would love to see how it was built.

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« Reply #34 on: Tue, 21 April 2020, 12:04:51 »
i'm liking it

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« Reply #35 on: Wed, 22 April 2020, 16:08:18 »
Can i replace "|(pipe)"key to "Backspace"key?
That's actually upside right corner of HHKB layout.

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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 22 April 2020, 17:13:14 »
how many gaskets?


Can i replace "|(pipe)"key to "Backspace"key?
That's actually upside right corner of HHKB layout.

12 Gaskets, and yes, it is a QMK PCB so everything is fully remappable.

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 23 April 2020, 08:19:11 »
Is there damped form between PCB and bottom case?

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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 23 April 2020, 11:57:41 »
Will there be a hotswap pcb option?
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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 23 April 2020, 12:40:57 »
Will there be a hotswap pcb option?

There are not hotswap 75% PCBs AFAIK, plus i just like solder.

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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 24 April 2020, 13:30:46 »
Show Image


So, just a small update - we tried some filament from a local Canadian supplier, and it just didn't give the shine through effect like my R1 cases (pictured). I want to make sure that my cases look as good as ever, so I have reached out to the American supplier of the clear filament from R1. This may add a week to the prototyping time, and shouldn't effect the cost too much, as bulk pricing should offset the price of shipping 50 kg of filament across the border. I'm going to try and get a sample to the printer ASAP so we can double check the translucency, and then the GB should be ready to begin :)

Hey to be honest, I liked the less transparent version in your first post a bit more, but I still like it.
Those notches on the side, will they be in the second version as well?

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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:16:29 »
Show Image


So, just a small update - we tried some filament from a local Canadian supplier, and it just didn't give the shine through effect like my R1 cases (pictured). I want to make sure that my cases look as good as ever, so I have reached out to the American supplier of the clear filament from R1. This may add a week to the prototyping time, and shouldn't effect the cost too much, as bulk pricing should offset the price of shipping 50 kg of filament across the border. I'm going to try and get a sample to the printer ASAP so we can double check the translucency, and then the GB should be ready to begin :)

Hey to be honest, I liked the less transparent version in your first post a bit more, but I still like it.
Those notches on the side, will they be in the second version as well?

I think I will include some variation on the top case, so yes to the side vents. These are all the same plastic, I'm just guessing differences in lighting and cameras have made the shine thru effect look different.

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 28 April 2020, 22:18:55 »
Hi all, just figured I'd give a little bump with an update.

We use a certain brand of clear PLA that outperforms every other clear PLA in terms of LED diffusivity, and they are having shortages due to COVID-19. I managed to get some, but not enough for 100 clear units. I am exploring a few options:

  • Leaving the clear spots as is for FCFS
  • Raffling off the clear cases
  • Combining a white bottom and clear top (will test this in the coming days)
  • Printing the whole thing in clear PETG - this is the most likely option, as PETG offers even clearer prints than PLA, is readily available, is stronger, denser, and will last longer. I just need to test the LED diffusivity, and make sure we can print a whole bunch of these in a great quality finish, as PETG is a little less cooperative than PLA

So yeah, stuff is still moving behind the scenes, and I should have some prototypes in a week or two. Ragan of SpaceCables is going to be doing a build stream of a PLA75 in the near future, and I will link that here.

Finally, I am considering increasing the number of units beyond the initial 75 to 100, which is double the first GB so that more people can get one of these. I am solely limited by my manufacturing/sanity capacity, and want to get as many of these out there for people to enjoy, so I think that is a fair balance for my 4th group buy.

Thanks!

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« Reply #43 on: Tue, 28 April 2020, 23:27:33 »
think better petg

BTW, is pcb leaf spring?

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« Reply #44 on: Wed, 29 April 2020, 14:56:04 »
Sounds alright to me. As long as the quality stays on point, that is :)
You asked for opinions on other colours. How's the feedback on that end?

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« Reply #45 on: Wed, 29 April 2020, 17:32:15 »
Sounds alright to me. As long as the quality stays on point, that is :)
You asked for opinions on other colours. How's the feedback on that end?

I'm going to get a list of colors I will "stock" so I can bulk order and keep costs down, and then we will allow one offs - i.e. pick a filament we can get from a Canadian site and we will do a one off for a small price bump. That way we can have a decent choice of colors, and give people the chance at extra customization.

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« Reply #46 on: Thu, 30 April 2020, 13:32:36 »
Sounds like a plan to me.

Still, a version without the vents, like the red render version, would be awesome!

Do you have any clue how high costs are for shipment and customs to Germany? Otherwise if you could give me package weight and size I could look it up.

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« Reply #47 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 14:45:23 »
Sounds like a plan to me.

Still, a version without the vents, like the red render version, would be awesome!

Do you have any clue how high costs are for shipment and customs to Germany? Otherwise if you could give me package weight and size I could look it up.

950g, 36 cm x 18 cm x 8 cm. That is the dimensions of a PLA75, so find a reasonable box size and use that info to find a rate. Would be using canada post or some private courier in Canada.

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« Reply #48 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 15:10:01 »
Update: Prototypes are on the way to me, and I hope to have them by Friday or Monday at the latest. We have decided on which colors we will offer stock: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1745/6181/files/D3D_Colour_Palette_v2.pdf?15858631806047528405

Please have a look, there should be a lot there to satisfy your tastes. I will let you know what we are doing about clear filament closer to the group buy, but we do have enough for ~20 cases on hand.

And we will be going ahead with one off PLA, so if you find a 750g or 1kg roll of filament you like on digitmakers.ca, filaments.ca, spool3d.ca, amazon.ca, or any other Canadian filament supplier (as long as they ship to Montreal), then you will be able to have your custom color.

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« Reply #49 on: Tue, 05 May 2020, 23:38:25 »
clear purple with vents top  :p hopefully it will look like those translucent gameboy

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« Reply #50 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 20:23:32 »
Awesome stuff, thank you!

I think I may have missed this; does this COME with the KBD75 PCB, or does it need to be procured separately?
And does the fixed plate support split backspace? It IS in the layout shown above, I just want to make sure that wasn't a reference to the issue with the fixed plate design based on incorrect documentation.

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« Reply #51 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 06:37:39 »
Awesome stuff, thank you!

I think I may have missed this; does this COME with the KBD75 PCB, or does it need to be procured separately?
And does the fixed plate support split backspace? It IS in the layout shown above, I just want to make sure that wasn't a reference to the issue with the fixed plate design based on incorrect documentation.

KBD75 comes with the kit, and yes, the plate supports split backspace. The fixed plate from the old thread only had an issue with split spacebar.

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« Reply #52 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 17:50:24 »
Awesome!


I had PMed you about a spare from the original, but that new run seems even better.

About the chambered back: I have that on my Sirius, and it causes the board to occasionally tip back. It's not s HUGE deal or anything, but I personally prefer a more squared design there. More friction = less moving about, and the lack of beveling here means the board won't tip.

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« Reply #53 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 20:35:44 »
Awesome!


I had PMed you about a spare from the original, but that new run seems even better.

About the chambered back: I have that on my Sirius, and it causes the board to occasionally tip back. It's not s HUGE deal or anything, but I personally prefer a more squared design there. More friction = less moving about, and the lack of beveling here means the board won't tip.

No, it doesnt do that. The base is still touching the ground along the axis of the switch press, so you wouldn't have any leverage to tip the board by hitting the back. Either you are straight up smashing those keys, or the sirius designer didn't take that into account and was too aggressive with the angle.

There should be an option for the classic version though, so worry not either way.

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 13 May 2020, 16:12:02 »
any updates?

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« Reply #55 on: Wed, 13 May 2020, 23:33:49 »
any updates?

Prototypes got ****ed up in the mail. Never had an issue with Canada Post before, but of course it happens with this one. Protocases be printing new ones and getting them to me ASAP. So sorry for the delay, but there is not much I can do about that.

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« Reply #56 on: Wed, 13 May 2020, 23:38:20 »
Good luck, eagerly waiting for this gb to happen.

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« Reply #57 on: Sat, 16 May 2020, 19:20:52 »
I know the protos got 86ed in the mail but any word on this part
"The option for a weight. Target is 2.5 lb (1.1 kg) which would make the whole board around 3.5 lb (1.6 kg) kg, and 4.6 lb (2.1 kg) built."

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« Reply #58 on: Sat, 16 May 2020, 21:26:05 »
I know the protos got 86ed in the mail but any word on this part
"The option for a weight. Target is 2.5 lb (1.1 kg) which would make the whole board around 3.5 lb (1.6 kg) kg, and 4.6 lb (2.1 kg) built."

Not for this run. I wanna keep it simple as COVID is making things hard to get and really expensive. Once things calm down a bit I will look at implementing a weight, but I don't plan to for this run.

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« Reply #59 on: Wed, 20 May 2020, 12:38:59 »
Second round of protos is almost done. Will ensure stuff is packed a little better and we should be in business!

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« Reply #60 on: Wed, 20 May 2020, 15:09:32 »
Second round of protos is almost done. Will ensure stuff is packed a little better and we should be in business!

Packaging well is always a good idea. Cannot wait for the gb to open

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 02:42:39 »
It's nice to see my sticker bomb build in the album!

I've been putting off making a guide for it but there's really not much to it. Here is my second sticker bomb build with a different top.
I HIGHLY suggest choosing the boxy top with all 90 degree corners. Otherwise, it'll be much more difficult to cleanly cover the edges and corners.

First part of the housing you want to cover are the corners.




Also, maybe choose something fitting for the USB cutout and use a box cutter or stationary knife to cut around the port.



After tackling the corners and USB port, cover the rest of the housing. The stickers will need to be partially layered to get full coverage (unless all the stickers are rectangular). I would try to avoid having more than 2 layers.



Cut out the excess parts of the stickers at the edge of the housing. Be sure use an appropriate surface for cutting like a cutting mat.



And voila, you should hopefully have an awesome sticker bombed keyboard!



For longevity, you can get apply some clear coat spray from your local craft store. I have considered it but I think I will go for a naturally worn look.
« Last Edit: Thu, 28 May 2020, 01:34:35 by Seoulcialite »

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« Reply #62 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 14:20:18 »
It's nice to see my stickerbomb build in the album!

I've been putting off making a guide for it but there's really not much to it. Here is my second sticker bomb build with a different top.
I HIGHLY suggest choosing the boxy top with all 90 degree corners. Otherwise, it'll be much more difficult cleanly covering the entirety of the top with stickers.

First part of the housing you want to cover are the corners.

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Also, maybe choose something fitting for the USB cutout and use a box cutter or stationary knife to cut around the port.

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After tackling the corners and USB port, cover the rest of the housing. The stickers will need to be partially layered to get full coverage (unless all the stickers are rectangular. I would try to avoid having more than 2 layers in one spot.

Show Image


Cut out the excess parts of the stickers at the edge of the housing. Be sure use an appropriate surface for cutting like a cutting mat.

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And voila, you should hopefully have an awesome sticker bombed keyboard!

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For longevity, you can get apply some clear coat spray from your local craft store. I have considered this but I think I will go for a naturally worn look.

Amazing, thank you for this! I may even stickerbomb my own now.

Also, continuous apologies for the delay in prototypes and GB, Montreal is getting rekt by covid right now and Mr. Protocases is having issues getting a few of the materials in.

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« Reply #63 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 16:04:51 »
seoulcialite - the sticker bomb looks way too good. this may be a silly question but where do you get all these stickers from? i'd love to do this but i don't have any stickers

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 01:36:16 »
seoulcialite - the sticker bomb looks way too good. this may be a silly question but where do you get all these stickers from? i'd love to do this but i don't have any stickers

Not sure where locally. Maybe at a craft or stationary store. I got mine from Amazon. Just search "category" + sticker pack. So I just searched for "star wars sticker pack" and a bunch of listings popped up.

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #65 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 15:56:23 »
Is there any news on the status of the group buy? Tracking this one closely...

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« Reply #66 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 17:58:06 »
Is there any news on the status of the group buy? Tracking this one closely...



Montreal Canada Post is still having a hard time with their COVID situation, so we are getting a little more filament from a private courier to facilitate the second round of prototypes to make sure the changes are good.

I appreciate everyone's patience here, I want to get this train rolling as bad as you do.

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« Reply #67 on: Wed, 17 June 2020, 18:03:19 »
Still just waiting for Montreal to reopen. Some businesses started this week, so hopefully we get some movement soon. Sorry all.

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Re: [IC] PLA75 R2 - Gasket Mounted 75%
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 17 June 2020, 21:17:01 »
Are the layout of pcb and plate the same as Winkeyless' B.mini? I have a spare acrylic case and plate of B.mini but cannot buy a new pcb because winkeyless went out of business.

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« Reply #69 on: Fri, 19 June 2020, 15:34:07 »
Are the layout of pcb and plate the same as Winkeyless' B.mini? I have a spare acrylic case and plate of B.mini but cannot buy a new pcb because winkeyless went out of business.

b.mini needs the b.mini PCB, kbd75 will not work. I tried myself.

I think if you have a friend in Korea you can still order from winkeyless.

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« Reply #70 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 00:37:33 »
do you happen to have a discord channel?

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« Reply #71 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 12:02:50 »
do you happen to have a discord channel?

I don't. Feel free to ask questions in the thread or DM me though.

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« Reply #72 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 12:05:47 »
Also, a small update. Things seems to be slowly moving in Montreal again, so the second round of prototypes can be sent to me. In the meantime, we were experimenting with printing these in resin, which allows for glass-like finish and higher dimensional accuracy. We are testing these at the moment, but if they are as solid as the FDM printed ones, I will surely offer them, as they will look amazing with RGB underglow.

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« Reply #73 on: Mon, 06 July 2020, 20:35:59 »
I'm not an expert, but resin is kinda brittle right?

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« Reply #74 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 09:50:54 »
I'm not an expert, but resin is kinda brittle right?

There is stuff that is slightly more elastic that I would use, some brands call it "tough" resin or whatever. And if it ends up being too brittle, I just won't offer it. Still waiting for samples to come in :confused: it's just been really slow.

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« Reply #75 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 05:51:03 »
Hello. Just a question, will the pcb be used for the board be the v2 version of the kbd75? The board is looking good :)

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« Reply #76 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 07:13:42 »
Looks nice!

Do you think that the PLA75 would be a good basis for a Silent Alpaca board as seen in this video:


That is a regular KBD75, but it turned out pretty good. How do you think the PLA75 would compare in sound and feel?

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« Reply #77 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 09:22:54 »
Hello. Just a question, will the pcb be used for the board be the v2 version of the kbd75? The board is looking good :)

Yes, the kbd75v2 will be used. No need for a custom PCB.

Looks nice!

Do you think that the PLA75 would be a good basis for a Silent Alpaca board as seen in this video:


That is a regular KBD75, but it turned out pretty good. How do you think the PLA75 would compare in sound and feel?


I think the PLA75 would play very nice with silent linears. Silent alpacas on an fr4 plate would sound nice and stealthy, and if you aren't looking for underglow, stick a nice piece of foam in the bottom to damp out any reverb.

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« Reply #78 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 17:18:02 »
Okay, that's what I'm looking for.

Are there any renders of the gray/black and maybe green colour cases you can post so people who have the recent 9009 and Honeywell sets can get an idea of the board's appearance?

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« Reply #79 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 14:05:21 »
Okay, that's what I'm looking for.

Are there any renders of the gray/black and maybe green colour cases you can post so people who have the recent 9009 and Honeywell sets can get an idea of the board's appearance?

Renders don't really represent the finish well, but place take a look in the R1 thread to see some images https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102633.0

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« Reply #80 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 16:50:12 »
Thanks! The black CF looks alright to me. I've always wanted a black KBD75.

Although this gray one is pretty nice:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102633.msg2855606#msg2855606

Do you know which colour listing this is?

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« Reply #81 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 09:39:42 »
Thanks! The black CF looks alright to me. I've always wanted a black KBD75.

Although this gray one is pretty nice:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102633.msg2855606#msg2855606

Do you know which colour listing this is?

That's the black CF. It comes out a little greyish.

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« Reply #82 on: Wed, 29 July 2020, 19:51:00 »
How's the progress coming on the resin printing?  I'm frothing on the possibility of having amazing underglow on my KBD75.

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« Reply #83 on: Wed, 29 July 2020, 20:03:54 »
I know this wasn't an option in R1, would you consider an option for buyers to purchase the kit, minus the pcb?  for those who might already have multiple kbd75 pcb's like myself.

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« Reply #84 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 13:17:06 »
How's the progress coming on the resin printing?  I'm frothing on the possibility of having amazing underglow on my KBD75.

We tried a hollow resin and it failed. Fully solid is printing now.

I know this wasn't an option in R1, would you consider an option for buyers to purchase the kit, minus the pcb?  for those who might already have multiple kbd75 pcb's like myself.

Yeah, you'll have to personally email me, and I want to encourage getting a PCB so we can bulk order and give everyone a price break.


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« Reply #85 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 13:21:52 »
Getting a quote for metal PLA75s from the shop I work next to. The delays in the 3D printing are getting absolutely insane, so I will explore new options. If the price is right, we will get rolling with this ASAP.

The shop mainly manufactures high tech oilfield equipment, so I trust the quality and finish will exceed what we can expect from Chinese manufacturers. Will get quotes for steel and aluminium as well.

Last question, should I rebrand the case, or just call it PLA75 metal edition?

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« Reply #86 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 16:13:31 »
Getting a quote for metal PLA75s from the shop I work next to. The delays in the 3D printing are getting absolutely insane, so I will explore new options. If the price is right, we will get rolling with this ASAP.

The shop mainly manufactures high tech oilfield equipment, so I trust the quality and finish will exceed what we can expect from Chinese manufacturers. Will get quotes for steel and aluminium as well.

Last question, should I rebrand the case, or just call it PLA75 metal edition?

PLA 75 HEAVY ****ING METAL, but yea, I'd stick with the PLA75 moniker since it's largely the same board no? Still the same plate layout and whatnot, just a different shell.

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« Reply #87 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 17:48:29 »
Getting a quote for metal PLA75s from the shop I work next to. The delays in the 3D printing are getting absolutely insane, so I will explore new options. If the price is right, we will get rolling with this ASAP.

The shop mainly manufactures high tech oilfield equipment, so I trust the quality and finish will exceed what we can expect from Chinese manufacturers. Will get quotes for steel and aluminium as well.

Last question, should I rebrand the case, or just call it PLA75 metal edition?

PLA 75 HEAVY ****ING METAL, but yea, I'd stick with the PLA75 moniker since it's largely the same board no? Still the same plate layout and whatnot, just a different shell.

Identical shape, just different material. And no more of those somewhat annoying square nuts :D

I spoke with my cerakote guys today, and I think I may consider a steel edition that is cerakoted, and then have anodized aluminum units.