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Offline LINdp

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 21:26:17 »
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #51 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 23:42:12 »
very very interested in this!!

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 11:56:34 »
What's your timeline?
Plan on prototype GB may start mid of june

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:05:45 »
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key




looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:28:56 »
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

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looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
The suggestion of bear on the far left side might look okay.  Also, an OLED screen above the right arrow would make this next level!

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #55 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:42:29 »
You can't really have ISO support in an alice type layout.

Why not? Edit: I'll answer myself - because the Enter and Backslash keys don't align verically.

OK, but if you look at the Virgo by Flex and you get rid of the TKL part, you can get ISO on an alice type layout - although I do prefer the look of ansi on those boards

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:59:59 »
What's your timeline?
Plan on prototype GB may start mid of june
Will it be public? I'm down for buying a prototype.

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 13:10:55 »
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

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looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
The suggestion of bear on the far left side might look okay.  Also, an OLED screen above the right arrow would make this next level!

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I definitely prefer the top render

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 13:51:26 »
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

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looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
The suggestion of bear on the far left side might look okay.  Also, an OLED screen above the right arrow would make this next level!

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I definitely prefer the top render
+1

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:14:27 »
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

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looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
The suggestion of bear on the far left side might look okay.  Also, an OLED screen above the right arrow would make this next level!

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I definitely prefer the top render
I like the top render too

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:20:20 »
I know it might be hard to give an approximation but what's the expected timeline for this board?

The Maja is similar and available soon but I definitely prefer this one. I want to know if I should wait for this one or not.



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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:32:39 »
You can't really have ISO support in an alice type layout.

Why not? Edit: I'll answer myself - because the Enter and Backslash keys don't align verically.

OK, but if you look at the Virgo by Flex and you get rid of the TKL part, you can get ISO on an alice type layout - although I do prefer the look of ansi on those boards
The Virgo has a different layout - the right edges of the Enter and Backslash keys in the ANSI layout are aligned. Here they're staggered, so they cannot be replaced by an ISO Enter.

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 15:43:23 »
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

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looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
The suggestion of bear on the far left side might look okay.  Also, an OLED screen above the right arrow would make this next level!

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I definitely prefer the top render
I like the top render too

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me too

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 16:16:00 »
You can't really have ISO support in an alice type layout.

Why not? Edit: I'll answer myself - because the Enter and Backslash keys don't align verically.

OK, but if you look at the Virgo by Flex and you get rid of the TKL part, you can get ISO on an alice type layout - although I do prefer the look of ansi on those boards
The Virgo has a different layout - the right edges of the Enter and Backslash keys in the ANSI layout are aligned. Here they're staggered, so they cannot be replaced by an ISO Enter.

Oh I know, I was just stating that it was technically possible, but required some work.

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 17:34:18 »
Definitely need solder PCB, but looks good layout-wise.

Maybe make the logos on the top optional? Not feeling how either of those bear renders look.

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #65 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 18:38:36 »
I am very interested, but I think spacing out the arrow keys maybe better.

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 21:34:47 »
Would you consider making the bottom row more uniform/straight like the Lisa layout?

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 11:08:53 »
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

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Show Image


looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
The suggestion of bear on the far left side might look okay.  Also, an OLED screen above the right arrow would make this next level!

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I definitely prefer the top render
I like the top render too

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me too

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+1 top render

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 11:10:16 »




 :D :D :D

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #69 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 12:26:35 »
Yeah agree that the Bear logo being vertical doesn't seem suited at that spot. But I'm not a designer so maybe I'm in the minority in this.
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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #70 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 12:30:47 »
I do prefer the top render as well :)

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #71 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 12:59:42 »
Maybe the reason some people don't like the bear at the bottom of the board is because it is too close to the edge and keys without leaving any natural space around it. Maybe making the logo a bit smaller would help with that. Does that make sense ?

I think the location is good but maybe it feels a bit too cluttered?

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 13:33:03 »
Maybe the reason some people don't like the bear at the bottom of the board is because it is too close to the edge and keys without leaving any natural space around it. Maybe making the logo a bit smaller would help with that. Does that make sense ?

I think the location is good but maybe it feels a bit too cluttered?

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Hmmm... I can see that - could it be scaled down a little bit? That might help :D

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 14:45:52 »
Is it possible to make the whole bear paw the weight? Not really a fan of the weight only being the inner part of the paw, just looks off to me.  I think the entire paw being the weight will make it pop more and automatically connect it to a bear paw rather than having to look twice to see what it is. Maybe its just me lol

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #74 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 14:47:45 »
Is it possible to make the whole bear paw the weight? Not really a fan of the weight only being the inner part of the paw, just looks off to me.  I think the entire paw being the weight will make it pop more and automatically connect it to a bear paw rather than having to look twice to see what it is. Maybe its just me lol
This would definitely look better but it would increase the price by a lot since the whole paw will be a big piece of brass

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #75 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 16:16:46 »
Alice is a ****ing trash keyboard with the all time worst set of compromises to ergonomics.

While the Alice splits, it fails to address the row stagger problem (either by getting rid of it like Ergodoxes or reversing it on the left hand like the Topre ergo board) and fails to introduce any significant columnular stagger.

I can forgive boards like the standard Microsoft ergo boards for this because they keep everything in place such that it could be used by someone expecting their computer to be used by several people without causing any interruption to anyone's muscle memory. But the Alice changes enough of the thumb use to spoil any general public usability gains. What's left is a half measure of a committment that goes far enough to make turning back difficult but not far enough to do any real good.

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #76 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 16:21:16 »
On a more serious note, consider adding support for split left shift so people can do angle mod and make it a little more ergo (also gaining the two B keys as completely spare harder-to-reach keys for extra functionality)

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #77 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 17:20:14 »
Also super interested in this - I can never have enough Alice layouts. But please we need a non hotswap solder pcb :)


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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #78 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 17:21:24 »
Alice is a ****ing trash keyboard with the all time worst set of compromises to ergonomics.

While the Alice splits, it fails to address the row stagger problem (either by getting rid of it like Ergodoxes or reversing it on the left hand like the Topre ergo board) and fails to introduce any significant columnular stagger.

I can forgive boards like the standard Microsoft ergo boards for this because they keep everything in place such that it could be used by someone expecting their computer to be used by several people without causing any interruption to anyone's muscle memory. But the Alice changes enough of the thumb use to spoil any general public usability gains. What's left is a half measure of a committment that goes far enough to make turning back difficult but not far enough to do any real good.
Maybe don't buy it then?


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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #79 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 18:17:59 »
I mean if your looking for ergo Alice is not ergo. Know the thread title says it is, but it's really not. Luckily as said, there are other options out there.

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 02:07:12 »
Maybe the reason some people don't like the bear at the bottom of the board is because it is too close to the edge and keys without leaving any natural space around it. Maybe making the logo a bit smaller would help with that. Does that make sense ?

I think the location is good but maybe it feels a bit too cluttered?

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Hmmm... I can see that - could it be scaled down a little bit? That might help :D

Okay will adjust it a bit small and see how it look like

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 11:40:44 »
Is it possible to make the whole bear paw the weight? Not really a fan of the weight only being the inner part of the paw, just looks off to me.  I think the entire paw being the weight will make it pop more and automatically connect it to a bear paw rather than having to look twice to see what it is. Maybe its just me lol
This would definitely look better but it would increase the price by a lot since the whole paw will be a big piece of brass

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Correct ,the price will upgrade and cnc work

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« Reply #82 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 18:11:24 »
take my money, im in.

I like hot swap, but the only thing id want added is split right backspace
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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 18:25:55 »
Is it possible to make the whole bear paw the weight? Not really a fan of the weight only being the inner part of the paw, just looks off to me.  I think the entire paw being the weight will make it pop more and automatically connect it to a bear paw rather than having to look twice to see what it is. Maybe its just me lol
This would definitely look better but it would increase the price by a lot since the whole paw will be a big piece of brass

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yes i know it would increase the price but i think its something most would not mind paying. maybe take away the engraving of "Bear 60" since i know that is an extra cost to make the full bear claw a weight.  I just love heavy keebs like everyone else and that weight seems so small and would barely add weight to a PC keeb which is already light.  Maybe add it on the IC if anything.
Correct ,the price will upgrade and cnc work

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« Reply #84 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 00:28:44 »
Any chance of an option with no bear logo at all?


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« Reply #85 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 00:32:05 »
I agree . At least make the brass weight comparable to the size of the elephant weight. Whole paw but sized down. I wouldn't mind the extra costs

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« Reply #86 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 01:39:40 »
Love this - open more slots if possible, keep the bear, love the bear. Non hot swap PCB please and thank you

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« Reply #87 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 05:12:38 »
Love this, very interested.

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« Reply #88 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 07:27:16 »
Yeah. Would love this with solder able PCB for split backspace. Otherwise it looks pretty awesome as is!

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« Reply #89 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 07:33:50 »
Okay,i will close the ic form on Monday then sort the suggestion and update it one by one ,

I will post the news let you know what we can do and not ,finally we move to do some prototype  :thumb:

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« Reply #90 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 08:32:32 »
anyone thinks having indicator lights like alice would be useful?

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« Reply #91 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 12:37:56 »
anyone thinks having indicator lights like alice would be useful?

Maybe??? I mean with it being a 65 i doubt you'd layer much. So it'd probably be for like caps lock and such. per-key RGB or at least for caps + windowed keycap would be tight.

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #92 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 15:56:04 »
Not against having lights, but I'll never use them

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« Reply #93 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 01:11:34 »
yes
Also solder pcb version if possible.
« Last Edit: Sun, 07 June 2020, 05:26:41 by Yumelon »

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #94 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 07:16:14 »
hope this happens faster!

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #95 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 09:04:51 »
The short link in the op is broken.

As for the logo, is it possible to re-design a "horizontal" logo to get better spacing? For example a bear on its belly, you can also make it look up to match your theme :thumb:

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« Reply #96 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 12:08:43 »
is there underglow for the pc version?

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« Reply #97 on: Mon, 08 June 2020, 07:29:35 »
is there underglow for the pc version?
Yes,it will have rge led on the back of pcb

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« Reply #98 on: Mon, 08 June 2020, 08:57:20 »
Okay,i will close the ic form on Monday then sort the suggestion and update it one by one ,

I will post the news let you know what we can do and not ,finally we move to do some prototype  :thumb:
great, cant wait

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Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
« Reply #99 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 12:03:26 »
The short link in the op is broken.

As for the logo, is it possible to re-design a "horizontal" logo to get better spacing? For example a bear on its belly, you can also make it look up to match your theme :thumb:
Fixed.

btw, ic form already closed, i will sort it tmr. :D