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[GB] GMK BLINK - CANCELLED (for now)
« on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 08:35:29 »





GMK BLINK IS IN YOUR AREA
Inspired by one of the most famous KPOP Girl Group: BLACKPINK, this set brings a combination of (literally) black and pink to your desk, with a spice of Korea (Hangul).
Not to mention this buy is just in time to celebrate their comeback in June!

Past IC >> https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101876.0


Visit one of this proxies nearest to your area to join the groupbuy
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Group buy will last until June 26th 2020
Which expected to ship at April 15th 2021


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*Please note that zFrontier is offering free shipping on order above $100, so buying any base kit with automatically make you elligible for the free shipping program

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More renders incoming!

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Get yours HERE

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Thanks for everyone who helped me making this set come true!
Special shoutout to thekey.company, itsundone, and of course BLACKPINK (which will make a comeback this june!!)



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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 08:41:28 »
Current Numbers



Credits to dvorcol very the ever-informative help!
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 16:39:48 »
Latest numbers above.

More
<-- numbers from May 31.
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 17:55:40 »
might have to dig around in the ol' wallet for this one, it's such a beauty
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 00:27:43 »
Just take all my money!!! Maybe someone can tribute to SNSD in the future...

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 01:11:00 »
Black mods get some love :(

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 18:55:54 »
Great set

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 20:42:32 »
Black mods get some love :(

i would have gotten black mods if they were in an add on kit

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 23:50:30 »

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 11:32:37 »
Will there ever be an option to buy the base kit + the inversed A C & N keys? Not really keen on the other novelties so not sure if I want to drop an additional $60 just to use 3 keys.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 11:59:13 »
Love these. I saw that its selling on zFrontier too? but it's not stated here.
would it be an issue if i got them from there?

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 12:11:07 »
Love these. I saw that its selling on zFrontier too? but it's not stated here.
would it be an issue if i got them from there?

Noticed that they're charging slightly over MSRP/asking. There is that free shipping over $100+ but still..

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 23:42:40 »
Will there ever be an option to buy the base kit + the inversed A C & N keys? Not really keen on the other novelties so not sure if I want to drop an additional $60 just to use 3 keys.
Officially from the group buy, sadly no. Maybe you can make a post on reddit on here and ask people who buy it to buy/trade only the ACN keys

Love these. I saw that its selling on zFrontier too? but it's not stated here.
would it be an issue if i got them from there?
Yes, zFrontier is our Asia proxy, they're official so have full confidence when purchasing there. Their price might be higher but for Asia people (like me) the extra price justifies it because they give free shipping for order $100, even at some store whose location is quite near Asia (SEA to be precise), the shipping for GMK base sets is usually over $20.


Anyway, I've updated the main post with complete price and all proxies link :thumb:
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 08 June 2020, 10:03:55 »
Im in.... lets go
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 17:25:39 »
What's the deal with this? Why has it been suspended?
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 18:36:56 »
Should we be worried about the suspension on it?  :(

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 20:13:21 »
Hahaha, the graph looks like an F

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 20:41:56 »
Let's wait for OP's reply, hopefully soon.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 21:11:33 »
"Can refund". Does that mean there's still a chance?

Either way, can't tell if I should laugh or cry. I've been searching for pink boards for months now just for this set.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 21:12:57 »
Wow, kind of surprised that this set is already cancelled, sales were looking good, this definitely would have hit MOQ. Unfortunate.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 21:47:26 »
Is this getting cancelled or just postponed? Can we have more details why?

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 21:57:13 »
I hope things get resolved, I was really wanting at least the base set from this, just threw on novelties for funs, haha. Would appreciate a small summary of what is going on. Fingers crossed your hard work doesn't get completely canceled.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 23:34:40 »
Have been waiting for this set for the longest time. Hope everything is alright.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 15:51:04 »
Hi all,

I wrote TKC Support and just received an answer:

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Due to a copyright notice from YG, the Korean entertainment company that owns BLACKPINK, we have had to take down the keycap set.
Until the artist modifies the set to have less reference to the K-Pop group, we will be unable to sell GMK Blink or anything related to "BLINK" as YG uses the term "BLINK" for their K-Pop group.


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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 16:05:53 »
Hi all,

I wrote TKC Support and just received an answer:

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Due to a copyright notice from YG, the Korean entertainment company that owns BLACKPINK, we have had to take down the keycap set.
Until the artist modifies the set to have less reference to the K-Pop group, we will be unable to sell GMK Blink or anything related to "BLINK" as YG uses the term "BLINK" for their K-Pop group.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 16:40:52 »
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 16:45:19 »
kill this love cap

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 17:05:29 »
Not surprised although with some smart tweaks, I imagine the set would survive.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 17:31:51 »
Let's name it GMK Pinkblack, then

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 17:43:30 »
I'd still be interested in the colourway without the novs

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 19:51:04 »
By having to be modified, I assume the only issue is the name? Even then, it'd be silly - a generic term for the name and black and pink colors. How do you have an infringement problem with that?

TKC grow some balls. Any legal consultant that can chime in? Calling in lawyer enjoy

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 20:37:22 »
By having to be modified, I assume the only issue is the name? Even then, it'd be silly - a generic term for the name and black and pink colors. How do you have an infringement problem with that?

TKC grow some balls. Any legal consultant that can chime in? Calling in lawyer enjoy

hi not a lawyer (this is not legal advice) but worked at a company that deals with people's copyright (you've heard of it)

you are simply incorrect in so many ways and i do not think it is worth spending my time explaining it

also YG is a giant company who can afford better lawyers than TKC, a startup

Let's name it GMK Pinkblack, then

would also not hold up

either get a license (unlikely given the C&D) or abandon the set (smartest option)
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 20:45:41 »
GMK Pink on Black Hangul. Don't know much about the band, but really loving the colors here. Was sure to get in on the base kit, unfortunate. Hope there is a good solution.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 21:19:26 »
Was just about to get in this GB too, and saw it was suspended. Hope to see this come back :)

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 21:30:23 »
Bummer. I would guess it's entirely about the novelties. JTK has the reverse Pink On Black/Devil (pink alphas and black mods), but the alt coverage has significant gaps. I would still love a GMK set in this colorway, and if the novelties have to go, so be it -- though I have to admit a Kill This Love backspace is pretty awesome. Maybe some novelty keycaps down the road as well? :)

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 21:35:29 »
By having to be modified, I assume the only issue is the name? Even then, it'd be silly - a generic term for the name and black and pink colors. How do you have an infringement problem with that?

TKC grow some balls. Any legal consultant that can chime in? Calling in lawyer enjoy

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 23:01:47 »
Only thing I see that could be a problem is the fan kit. Maybe remove "Kill this love", "Boombayah", and all those "Du du" buttons.

The name should still be valid as it's a common name and in a different industrial. They do not own this name in the mech world.
Not sure about the face buttons though.
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 00:18:19 »
The issue isn't doing what you need to do to win a lawsuit.

The issue is doing what you need to do to avoid a lawsuit in the first place.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 00:19:28 »
The issue isn't doing what you need to do to win a lawsuit.

The issue is doing what you need to do to avoid a lawsuit in the first place.

this is the correct take
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 01:18:00 »
By having to be modified, I assume the only issue is the name? Even then, it'd be silly - a generic term for the name and black and pink colors. How do you have an infringement problem with that?

TKC grow some balls. Any legal consultant that can chime in? Calling in lawyer enjoy

hi not a lawyer (this is not legal advice) but worked at a company that deals with people's copyright (you've heard of it)

you are simply incorrect in so many ways and i do not think it is worth spending my time explaining it

also YG is a giant company who can afford better lawyers than TKC, a startup

Let's name it GMK Pinkblack, then

would also not hold up

either get a license (unlikely given the C&D) or abandon the set (smartest option)

Can you explain it to me? I don't see how two generic colors tied to a human activity name could give someone legal trouble. Happy to learn something new, no sarcasm

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 01:24:29 »
By having to be modified, I assume the only issue is the name? Even then, it'd be silly - a generic term for the name and black and pink colors. How do you have an infringement problem with that?

TKC grow some balls. Any legal consultant that can chime in? Calling in lawyer enjoy

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 04:32:33 »
Hi, I guess I'll try to add my 2 cents to the thread.
First of all, I think the set look great, and ngl, I'm sad seeing it cancel.

We probably don't know what's going on behind the scenes so I'll just make assumptions.

1- The name. Not a problem by any means it's different enough from the name of the band, names are very regulated but here, I'd be amazed if someone tell me this is actually "close enough" to the OG one. I doubt any judge would think the name is problematic here.
2- The color scheme. You can own some colors (Tiffany blue, the blackest black, space gray...), and in some situation yes, you can own some color schemes but it's so complicated that I won't go into details about it to make things easier, but that dosent apply in this situation.
3. The overall "inspiration" of the set. Some people might think that the set having KR legends, inspired by this K-Pop brand and having the same color scheme is enough to claim that it's a violation against IP rules is.... not acceptable. You're allowed to get inspiration from anyone as long as you justify of a some degree of creativity to make your creation different. Which leads to my last point.
4. The noveltie kit. The rest was perfectly fine if everything had stop there but here is the real deal. Having such a kit that have text novelties that remind the songs of the artists, novelties that replicate their faces etc. Here we have too many clues of a violation of the IP of the K-Pop Band and I definetly agree on that. (Well the deskmat aswell showing the girls should be remove too in that sense).

The solution would simply be to remove the noveltie kit and the problematic deskmat. That way the set will be different enough, and just "an inspiration" and there is no way a trial could even start with such few elements.

That said, I hope this set will comeback because there is no reason it should be canceled beside the 2 that I just mentionned.

Also note that I made things simple for the sake of everyone and that I'm specialized in Fr/EU IP so things can vary but that shouldnt affect this particular case by any means.

If someone disagree with that i'd be curious to hear them.  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 04:38:24 »
Shut up, pudsy knows best!! To even consider that it is ridiculous doesn't even warrant him to begin to explain where you are wrong!!!!!!!!!
It has probably been obvious for a long time to others, but I am just now realizing pudsy probably just wings it in every thread in hopes of sounding like the smartest kid on the block - until proven otherwise

Jokes aside, I seriously missed the novelty kit and deskmats (I saw text mods in the base and just scrolled past everything, honestly). Guess I'm not so crazy after all after your explanation Enjoy. :)
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 05:17:27 »
Completely forgetting the fact that Blink is the official fan club name for BlackPink, and that it’s a comeback month (new BlackPink music for the first time in over a year), it’s probably the worst time to be toeing the line of IP infringement when you’re up against one of the more powerful Korean music production studios.
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 05:21:21 »
Hi, I guess I'll try to add my 2 cents to the thread.
First of all, I think the set look great, and ngl, I'm sad seeing it cancel.

We probably don't know what's going on behind the scenes so I'll just make assumptions.

1- The name. Not a problem by any means it's different enough from the name of the band, names are very regulated but here, I'd be amazed if someone tell me this is actually "close enough" to the OG one. I doubt any judge would think the name is problematic here.
2- The color scheme. You can own some colors (Tiffany blue, the blackest black, space gray...), and in some situation yes, you can own some color schemes but it's so complicated that I won't go into details about it to make things easier, but that dosent apply in this situation.
3. The overall "inspiration" of the set. Some people might think that the set having KR legends, inspired by this K-Pop brand and having the same color scheme is enough to claim that it's a violation against IP rules is.... not acceptable. You're allowed to get inspiration from anyone as long as you justify of a some degree of creativity to make your creation different. Which leads to my last point.
4. The noveltie kit. The rest was perfectly fine if everything had stop there but here is the real deal. Having such a kit that have text novelties that remind the songs of the artists, novelties that replicate their faces etc. Here we have too many clues of a violation of the IP of the K-Pop Band and I definetly agree on that. (Well the deskmat aswell showing the girls should be remove too in that sense).

The solution would simply be to remove the noveltie kit and the problematic deskmat. That way the set will be different enough, and just "an inspiration" and there is no way a trial could even start with such few elements.

That said, I hope this set will comeback because there is no reason it should be canceled beside the 2 that I just mentionned.

Also note that I made things simple for the sake of everyone and that I'm specialized in Fr/EU IP so things can vary but that shouldnt affect this particular case by any means.

If someone disagree with that i'd be curious to hear them.  :thumb:

I have no experience with law, but I thought I'd chime with some of my mostly useless knowledge of Korean entertainment.

I completely agree with most of what you wrote.

Regarding the name, "BLINK" is actually the official name of BLACKPINK's fandom. It's highly likely that YG Entertainment holds some kind of copyright on the name "BLINK" as it relates to the group. Seeing as BLACKPINK has had unprecedented success outside of Asia for a girl group, I'd also be willing to bet that YG Entertainment has those copyrights in Europe and the Americas as well. The keycap set name uses the fandom name, down to the capitalization, so I think changing the name would give the set the best chance of surviving.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 06:39:40 »
I wonder what keyboard to put this on... When this is resolved  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 08:31:49 »
Jokes aside, I seriously missed the novelty kit and deskmats (I saw text mods in the base and just scrolled past everything, honestly). Guess I'm not so crazy after all after your explanation Enjoy. :)

I mean to be fair EnjoyMyInSec's explanation doesn't back your previous takes in this thread at all. You generically stated that you assumed the only issue was with the name, and if it wasn't then you don't see what the could be causing the legal trouble - definitely not backed by his statement. He said there is no reason for the set to be cancelled except the fact that there are two massive, glaring issues to be dealt with - this is not the same as "TKC growing some balls" nor is it a word of encouragement (or at least I really hope it isn't) for a startup to legally contest a massive entertainment company by changing a couple things and reopening a project they specifically took down.

PS: I do think the set can run, I just don't think "just change it lol" is the way to go about it.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 10:26:37 »
Hi, I guess I'll try to add my 2 cents to the thread.
First of all, I think the set look great, and ngl, I'm sad seeing it cancel.

We probably don't know what's going on behind the scenes so I'll just make assumptions.

1- The name. Not a problem by any means it's different enough from the name of the band, names are very regulated but here, I'd be amazed if someone tell me this is actually "close enough" to the OG one. I doubt any judge would think the name is problematic here.
2- The color scheme. You can own some colors (Tiffany blue, the blackest black, space gray...), and in some situation yes, you can own some color schemes but it's so complicated that I won't go into details about it to make things easier, but that dosent apply in this situation.
3. The overall "inspiration" of the set. Some people might think that the set having KR legends, inspired by this K-Pop brand and having the same color scheme is enough to claim that it's a violation against IP rules is.... not acceptable. You're allowed to get inspiration from anyone as long as you justify of a some degree of creativity to make your creation different. Which leads to my last point.
4. The noveltie kit. The rest was perfectly fine if everything had stop there but here is the real deal. Having such a kit that have text novelties that remind the songs of the artists, novelties that replicate their faces etc. Here we have too many clues of a violation of the IP of the K-Pop Band and I definetly agree on that. (Well the deskmat aswell showing the girls should be remove too in that sense).

The solution would simply be to remove the noveltie kit and the problematic deskmat. That way the set will be different enough, and just "an inspiration" and there is no way a trial could even start with such few elements.

That said, I hope this set will comeback because there is no reason it should be canceled beside the 2 that I just mentionned.

Also note that I made things simple for the sake of everyone and that I'm specialized in Fr/EU IP so things can vary but that shouldnt affect this particular case by any means.

If someone disagree with that i'd be curious to hear them.  :thumb:

Analysis of the underlying legal merits of the case misses the point.

TKC has no interest buying itself a lawsuit even if TKC ultimately prevails.

Unlike in the EU, there is no prevailing party fee shifting in the United States. Everyone pays their own legal bills generally.

If TKC wants to run this, the way to do it would be in coordination with the rightsholder and have them bless it before proceeding.
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 16:27:41 »
Where is op?  I know this isn’t an easy problem to fix but an update would be much appreciated.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 00:22:43 »
By having to be modified, I assume the only issue is the name? Even then, it'd be silly - a generic term for the name and black and pink colors. How do you have an infringement problem with that?

TKC grow some balls. Any legal consultant that can chime in? Calling in lawyer enjoy

hi not a lawyer (this is not legal advice) but worked at a company that deals with people's copyright (you've heard of it)

you are simply incorrect in so many ways and i do not think it is worth spending my time explaining it

also YG is a giant company who can afford better lawyers than TKC, a startup

Let's name it GMK Pinkblack, then

would also not hold up

either get a license (unlikely given the C&D) or abandon the set (smartest option)

Can you explain it to me? I don't see how two generic colors tied to a human activity name could give someone legal trouble. Happy to learn something new, no sarcasm

To be honest, its pretty logical when you think about it and use common sense. TKC/OP is trying to use the hype and reputation of a well established kpop group in order to push and sell “merch” and i suppose make some profit while being at it right?
YG Entertainment who owns the rights to said kpop group would for sure wanna have a piece of the pie if money is being made.
Now you would think that OP would’ve/should’ve at least gotten permission from YG Ent or gotten a license or reached a royalty deal of some sort in order to proceed with the project (Much like GMK White Wolf who contacted CD Projekt Red to have their input - or another example :you wanna start making batman toys well you need to contact DC Comics and ask them if they are cool with it and splitting some of the profit for them to agree to the idea.) this wouldve saved so much time and effort for all parties involved from the beginning

I sincerely hope jebbra reaches a deal with YG or something because i am a blink myself and would love to have this as my first set of keys.

All in all, disappointed by the news but its understandable that its suspended due to copyright infringement..

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 03:04:55 »
Quote from: Jebbra on 06/10/2020 via TKC Discord
Hello all, it's true that we got a letter from YG regarding this set. After further investigation the main culprit might be the name itself: GMK BLINK. Yes this is my fault to begin with, while I knew BLINK is indeed the name of their fanbase, I overlooked the fact that it's at the same time official and highly chance copyrighted too.

Currently I'm working with Jason and his attorney regarding the next step but rest assured scrapping this set is not crossing my mind. I'm confident the Base Kit (and also the Black Kit) is not violating any copyright. Worst case is we will remove any BLACKPINK related novelties and change it to things related to KPOP music / Korean popular culture in general. But how the process will be executed will be on TK.C's term.

I'm truly sorry for this inconvenience, I know it's too dumb on the name part

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 10:56:23 »
Can you explain it to me? I don't see how two generic colors tied to a human activity name could give someone legal trouble. Happy to learn something new, no sarcasm

It feels pretty straight forward to me. The name almost matches, and the novelties depict the members and various design queues from the band. Seems like a more generic novelties kit and calling in "PoB" would do the trick. That said.... does OP want to produce a more generic PoB set?

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 11:44:25 »
Can you explain it to me? I don't see how two generic colors tied to a human activity name could give someone legal trouble. Happy to learn something new, no sarcasm

It feels pretty straight forward to me. The name almost matches, and the novelties depict the members and various design queues from the band. Seems like a more generic novelties kit and calling in "PoB" would do the trick. That said.... does OP want to produce a more generic PoB set?

The novelties (even though I pre-ordered it, RIP) aren't what make the set for me - I really like the combination of black, pink, and hangul, which seem to not be the legally contentious part

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 12:24:38 »


The novelties (even though I pre-ordered it, RIP) aren't what make the set for me - I really like the combination of black, pink, and hangul, which seem to not be the legally contentious part

Exactly the same for me. I too have ordered the novelties but I would be just as happy with only the base kit. I do like the inverted C and N very much tho.

Really hope this will be resolved

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 15:44:21 »


The novelties (even though I pre-ordered it, RIP) aren't what make the set for me - I really like the combination of black, pink, and hangul, which seem to not be the legally contentious part

Exactly the same for me. I too have ordered the novelties but I would be just as happy with only the base kit. I do like the inverted C and N very much tho.

Really hope this will be resolved

The base kit is what I ordered. Although I wanted the inverted A C N keys, I didn't want to spend $60 just to use those. Like everyone else in this thread, hopefully this will be resolved soon too.

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« Reply #56 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 17:22:27 »
Yea I like the A C N novalties like other have mentioned and hope they stay. If you can’t use the dududu and kill this love I would think it would be cool to have hangal text mods would be pretty cool.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 18:11:21 »
 I would really like to see this set come out. I really liked the color scheme when I first saw it and didn't even know it had to with Blackpink.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 23:11:31 »



Exactly the same for me. I too have ordered the novelties but I would be just as happy with only the base kit. I do like the inverted C and N very much tho.

Really hope this will be resolved

+1. Really liked the inverted A C N keys. Was contemplating on the novelties kit since I really only wanted 3 keys but definitely gonna get myself a base kit.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #59 on: Sat, 13 June 2020, 00:29:28 »
Exactly the same for me. I too have ordered the novelties but I would be just as happy with only the base kit. I do like the inverted C and N very much tho.

Really hope this will be resolved

+1. Really liked the inverted A C N keys. Was contemplating on the novelties kit since I really only wanted 3 keys but definitely gonna get myself a base kit.
That was exactly my sentiment; I liked those keys but wasn't sure it was worth justifying $60 USD for what was essentially 3 keys.

Especially when it was going on the black base kit where the majority of novelties were pink and wouldn't suit it at all.
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #60 on: Sat, 13 June 2020, 02:43:13 »
Wouldnt mind paying extra to add the A C N keys into the base kit.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 15 June 2020, 02:36:30 »
Wouldnt mind paying extra to add the A C N keys into the base kit.

I also want this!  ;D

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 15 June 2020, 02:53:26 »
Please change the thread Title and original post to include the information about the copyright issue, and that kits will be changing.
You don't want to mislead people into buying something that will be different by the time they get it.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #63 on: Wed, 17 June 2020, 14:59:02 »
Is there an update or timeline for how this is set to resolve? Some GBs for boards I'm interested in are about to go live, and I just want to know if this set is still happening to guide my color decisions.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 22 June 2020, 01:31:10 »
Is this dead?

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 22 June 2020, 04:23:24 »
Hello, sorry for the long silence. I wanna wait for it to be as clear as daylight to me when I release further statement about this, hence the long wait, but since this has been almost 2 weeks already since the suspended sale, I think I owe an explanation.

Currently the set is on hold because copyright issues as you all might already know.
1. So what are the next plan? Currently we are in talks with our own attorney for how we gonna respond regarding the matters.
2. Will the set coming back? Personally I won't scrape this set. The worst outcome will be it won't have anything related to Blackpink (the girlband) at all but I think something like inverted A C N is quite universal.
3. How the current buy will be resolved? This is on TK.C hands, and back to point 1, we still in talks with our attorney.

I will post things ASAP when we got follow up. Let's pray the best for this set :-[

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Week 1/4
« Reply #66 on: Mon, 22 June 2020, 12:22:12 »
Hello, sorry for the long silence. I wanna wait for it to be as clear as daylight to me when I release further statement about this, hence the long wait, but since this has been almost 2 weeks already since the suspended sale, I think I owe an explanation.

Currently the set is on hold because copyright issues as you all might already know.
1. So what are the next plan? Currently we are in talks with our own attorney for how we gonna respond regarding the matters.
2. Will the set coming back? Personally I won't scrape this set. The worst outcome will be it won't have anything related to Blackpink (the girlband) at all but I think something like inverted A C N is quite universal.
3. How the current buy will be resolved? This is on TK.C hands, and back to point 1, we still in talks with our attorney.

I will post things ASAP when we got follow up. Let's pray the best for this set :-[


Best of luck to you guys! Reading through this entire thread, it sounds like a lot of ppl are supporting this keycap set even without the whole reference to Blackpink.  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 22 June 2020, 18:12:28 »
Hopefully everything gets resolved. Must buy!

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 17:56:20 »
After internal discussion, we have decided the best path forward is to cancel this GB. We are processing refunds to all participants.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 19:20:21 »
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #70 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 19:26:35 »
Would love to see this come back without the references to Blackpink.
I really like the colour scheme.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 22:26:39 »
Big F. I've been waiting so long for this.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 02:55:45 »
After internal discussion, we have decided the best path forward is to cancel this GB. We are processing refunds to all participants.

Pour one out for the homie, F.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 07:46:32 »
F, will keep eye out if you re-IC the color scheme as that was the most important thing for me - best of luck resolving everything!

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #74 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 09:26:24 »
F for all the blinks. I hope you can at least have the likeness of the girls in the next kit, I could do without the song names and album covers lol
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #75 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 10:36:20 »
Damn. This was going to be my first GB.. loved the colors and it being BP was even cooler. What a shame, classic YG.






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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #76 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 13:29:30 »
Can you let us know if there are plans to redo this keyset in a more generic way? I still like the black/pink/hangul combination, and I can do without the copyrighted song names and faces.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #77 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 22:33:18 »
Yang Hyung Suk gotta ruin everything. This was the only reason why I got into keebs..

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 25 June 2020, 05:38:09 »
Ok guys and girls, after a long discussion with the team, I’m here to apologize that this set will be cancelled for now.
All current buyer will be refunded accordingly as soon as possible.

I will redesign the set so the same things won’t happen again but it will take some time until we can launch it back.

Again, I’m truly sorry for this inconvenience and of course thank you very very very much for your support to this set ;D it really means a lot to me!



PS we might get back to the IC thread for future updates regarding the changes ;)

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 25 June 2020, 12:49:54 »
Ok guys and girls, after a long discussion with the team, I’m here to apologize that this set will be cancelled for now.
All current buyer will be refunded accordingly as soon as possible.

I will redesign the set so the same things won’t happen again but it will take some time until we can launch it back.

Again, I’m truly sorry for this inconvenience and of course thank you very very very much for your support to this set ;D it really means a lot to me!



PS we might get back to the IC thread for future updates regarding the changes ;)

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - Currently ON HOLD
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 25 June 2020, 16:09:12 »
Ok guys and girls, after a long discussion with the team, I’m here to apologize that this set will be cancelled for now.
All current buyer will be refunded accordingly as soon as possible.

I will redesign the set so the same things won’t happen again but it will take some time until we can launch it back.

Again, I’m truly sorry for this inconvenience and of course thank you very very very much for your support to this set ;D it really means a lot to me!



PS we might get back to the IC thread for future updates regarding the changes ;)

Thanks for the update. How different do you think the updated set will be, and will the IC/GB happen this year? I just wanna plan my budget/purchases appropriately

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - CANCELLED (for now)
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 25 June 2020, 16:30:53 »
 Rum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - CANCELLED (for now)
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 25 June 2020, 19:37:18 »
Next time! This was going to be my first GB but just unlucky. Thanks for your hard work


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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - CANCELLED (for now)
« Reply #83 on: Mon, 29 June 2020, 17:03:44 »
very unlooky, big fan of Blackpink and the color scheme is just amazing. Good luck on the re-design, can't wait to see what you gonna come up with.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - CANCELLED (for now)
« Reply #84 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 05:02:58 »
What are the colour codes for this set?

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - CANCELLED (for now)
« Reply #85 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 21:50:40 »
I just heard about this kit today, got excited and googled it. I don't know a thing about this forum or how the group buy works, but saw that the original date to join was already due, so I rushed to create an account and ask if there was still a way to get it, just to find out that it got cancelled by YG  :'(

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - CANCELLED (for now)
« Reply #86 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 01:10:51 »
Are there any updates on this set? Would love to see it come back

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - CANCELLED (for now)
« Reply #87 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 06:05:14 »
So crazy that YG got wind of this, lol... then again, the Black Pink fanbase seems pretty rabid, so I shouldn't be surprised.

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - CANCELLED (for now)
« Reply #88 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 08:42:14 »
So crazy that YG got wind of this, lol... then again, the Black Pink fanbase seems pretty rabid, so I shouldn't be surprised.

I feel like it didn't help that they added a Korean vendor so it became more local. Also the timing was kind of unfortunate since it was right around the comeback so they were probably doing searches for Blink and Blackpink

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - CANCELLED (for now)
« Reply #89 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 16:32:51 »
Are there any updates on this set? Would love to see it come back

Like anything with Blackpink... comebacks aren't often. BP might be onto their next mini-album (after their upcoming full album) by the time this GMK set gets going again... then they'll be disbanded by the time we get the set.  :(

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« Reply #90 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 22:41:48 »
So crazy that YG got wind of this, lol... then again, the Black Pink fanbase seems pretty rabid, so I shouldn't be surprised.

im not exactly a kpop stan but i do know that YG is sort of famously litigious so it makes sense
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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - CANCELLED (for now)
« Reply #91 on: Wed, 29 July 2020, 03:57:39 »
Are there any updates on this set? Would love to see it come back
by the time this GMK set gets going again... then they'll be disbanded by the time we get the set.  :(

I know this is half serious, but knowing the timelines behind mech groupbuys, this is probably going to be true. lmao

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Re: [GB] GMK BLINK - CANCELLED (for now)
« Reply #92 on: Wed, 29 July 2020, 04:11:14 »
Are there any updates on this set? Would love to see it come back
by the time this GMK set gets going again... then they'll be disbanded by the time we get the set.  :(

I know this is half serious, but knowing the timelines behind mech groupbuys, this is probably going to be true. lmao

I know less than nothing about k-pop, but I suspect they've got a while left - wikipedia suggests they've only just released their first domestic album. Interesting that they released in Japan first in 2018.
     
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« Reply #93 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 19:34:16 »
Are there any updates on this set? Would love to see it come back
by the time this GMK set gets going again... then they'll be disbanded by the time we get the set.  :(

I know this is half serious, but knowing the timelines behind mech groupbuys, this is probably going to be true. lmao

I know less than nothing about k-pop, but I suspect they've got a while left - wikipedia suggests they've only just released their first domestic album. Interesting that they released in Japan first in 2018.

Actually, Blackpink debuted in 2016 so it'd be their 4th year anniversary this year. Fans have been pretty critical about the management of the group and how they haven't released a lot of songs and albums in the 4 years since they've been around and their first full album is finally coming in October this year. There is a sort of "7-year curse" in the kpop industry because a lot of groups tend to not make it past 7 years or disband earlier so it can be hard to say. Haha.

I'm already starting to look for alternative keycaps that'll get me the black and pink colour scheme and the GMK Pono seems like a good alternative but no Hangul. I have a feeling I probably won't need this set anymore if (and when) it comes back.