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Offline Koobaczech

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Updates
July 8, 2020 - Some people were mentioning Keycult similarities and wanting some measure of closure on the matter, so I reached out to them. They are the nicest and most mature people I think I've had the pleasure of talking with. Keycult understood the similarities, inspirations and goal of the board and gave me an "OK" to continue on with the project!

July 20, 2020 - Final prototype Pandora order placed. 1 month eta to delivery and then GB probably running soon after :thumb:































Testing the Encoder

Welcome
Hello! My name is Koobaczech and I love designing cool, fun and unique bespoke boards! Some of you may know me from Pearl 40%, but I've made other boards as well such as Espectro, a 65% for my friend and the first Pandora years ago. Heres a link to the Pearl groupbuy I ran a while back! Pearl

Pandora and its Features
Pandora is a super premium 60% that is packed with all the Koob tech you would expect. I worked very hard on this project some years ago, but never ran it. I have resurrected and refined it for todays market with the best features I could add. Everything was designed in house and with patience and love. Before going further, I want to extend a kind note to any newcomers that this is not a beginner friendly board. It requires patience, knowledge, and proper handling to ensure its proper function. I say this in regard to things such as aligning plates with gasket systems, not over-tightening polycarb parts, understanding which plates are best for you, and properly using a hotswap pcb. With that being said, lets start listing some things that I put into these bad boys. One last note, whats listed here is currently being exercised in my two Prototypes!

Special thanks
  • Evy, selflessly taught me everything about pcb design. Literally the best.
  • Dingusxmcgee_, All rendering work
  • JordiJolimon(StrataKb), constant laser cutting prototype support
  • Robotical, Shadohhh, Kaazzeerr, Mangoes, irl support
  • FL Discord peeps and IG dm's, overall support
  • Bear Cable Co, Latrialum, collab support
  • Jetpacktuxedo, Olivia, MechMarlin, Taylor, QMK support
  • Mr. Keebs, Gondolindrim, Bisoromi, r4wromg, Pika, Nixytheria, Lulzthax, Crykn, design support
  • Everyone who helped keep me motivated on IG and who has supported me throughout the years
  • Exclusive, Riotonthebay, Walletburner, design inspirations

Collaborations
I reached out to my favorite makers out there, and am proud to announce the main collaboration in this project will be with premium cable maker Bear Cable Co. They make high quality coiled, sleeved, protected cables that you would expect, but add the extra details that matter. When you receive your custom cable with gold plated ends, painted connectors and that sweet coil, your keyboard setup is complete. Hit him up now until the GB ends for any special fulfillment requests. Next collab I am trying to provide will be with premium artisan maker Latrialum to make limited badges! More info to come!

MAIN Features
  • ANSI, ISO, TSANGAN layouts
  • Split lshift, rshift, backspace and stepped caps
  • 10u spacebar support
  • 9.5 degree typing angle
  • Big weight
  • Hotswap availability
  • Many colors, materials, finishes
  • USB C Daughterboard
  • Gasket mounted
  • HHKB, ANSI, ISO, WKL
  • Rotary Encoder Knob button in the back. Push/rotate for things like volume, mute, page scroll etc
  • USB 2.0 HUB
  • Indicator led and under RGB

Case
  • "Full Isolation" Poron Gasket mounting system w/ 12 gaskets total
  • Alu 6063 anodized or ecoated
  • Polished and PVD Coated Stainless Steel or Brass
  • Dyed Polycarbonate
  • Laser engraved accent pieces
  • 2mm Frosted Polycarbonate mid diffuser piece

Switchplates
  • Alu, Brass, Stainless Steel, Pom, Polycarbonate, Fr4, Acrylic
  • Ansi or Iso support via different plates
  • Halfplate or Fullplate
  • Relief "meme" cuts on all halfplates

PCB
  • USB C Daughterboard C3 Variant (latest daughterboard tech)
  • ESD, Fuse, etc protection
  • Main PCB and USB Hub designed in house by me
  • For Hotswap pcb, it has a fixed tsangan layout
  • Via support already working
  • Flex cuts across pcb center
  • RGB Underglow but no in switch leds
  • Caps corner indicator led on case or caps key indicator under key
  • Top facing Reset switch accessible via plate relief cut

Other Design Features
  • Case winglets for grip and RGB shine through
  • Center mounted USB-C port
  • Recessed blockers to prevent plate ping on WKL/HHKB
  • No shorting on flex
  • EVA Foam dampening available for case and pcb/plate
  • Gold plated mounting hardware

Timeline, Price and Availability (All subject to change)
  • Price, $$$
  • Limited availability during run
  • GB tentatively set for 2-3 months from now

TODO
  • Find proxies
  • Send protos out to respected members to build and review
  • Keep working on the project to get it ready for a buy

NO's in this project
  • Alps
  • MATIAS or Plate Mounted Cherry Stabilizer support
  • Numbered weights

More about me
« Last Edit: Tue, 08 September 2020, 23:50:31 by Koobaczech »

Offline PikaJoyce

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:19:31 »
BIG FAN #1!

Pandora looks fantastic!

Offline r4wromg

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:20:21 »
Holy, Koob is BACK y'all and he's bringing the heat. Looking forward to seeing how this develops!

Offline stevesie

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:20:48 »
I love the polycarb cases. Looking good! Good luck!

Offline shawnlin

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:21:07 »
It's finally here!

Offline crusader_alex

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:23:29 »
Yes

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Offline Koobaczech

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:23:53 »
Haha thanks y'all<3 Been a long tough expensive road

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:28:33 »
color me interested!

Offline joecoolbob

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:35:00 »
woah that usb hub is sick! also interesting knob location haha
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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:41:10 »
I couldn't find it in the description, what does the button on the back of the case do?

Offline Koobaczech

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:44:38 »
I couldn't find it in the description, what does the button on the back of the case do?
Hey brother, that's a programmable rotary encoder. It's a push/rotate switch essentially. You can turn it for volume and push it for mute/unmute as an example. Its my favorite thing about the boards so far! Sample QMK code in the keymap.c file could look something like

if (index == 0)
        if (clockwise)
            {
            tap_code(KC_AUDIO_VOL_UP);
        } else {
            tap_code(KC_AUDIO_VOL_DOWN);
        }
    }

Offline jamster

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:52:07 »
Ah, cool. I had searched the opening post for the word "button" and didn't catch that there was an encoder. Having it activate on push (e.g. for a quick "mute") is a great idea.

Offline KingsofLeon

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:54:19 »
Yes

Offline Rejeckted

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:57:54 »
Looks amazing, following this for sure

Offline lolafineday

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 02:00:18 »
Definetely in for the dyed polycarb, it would be awesome if there was a burgundy dyed option, I have been wanting one forever!

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Offline pixelpusher

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 02:07:21 »
pfffffft.... 10u spacebar.  Not enough balls to go full 15.  Lame.

Looking forward to the GB, dude.

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 02:11:44 »
Let's go! the polycarb looks sick!

Offline Manticzeus

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 02:36:03 »
I mean, do I even need to tell you I am in? :P

Offline victorpre

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 02:51:58 »
I love the vast list of features. Will try to get one ;D

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 03:15:00 »
I love this! In if split spacebar becomes available

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 03:23:12 »
I don't like 60% but this puts a smile on my face. Big Keycult No. 1 vibes and I'm here for it! Also, gaddamn 10 degree typing angle.

A few subjective notes:

One of the things that sticks out to me are the bottom case screw holes. They pour over the edge of the case ever so slightly. Not a huge deal but might be worth considering moving them slightly more inward. Or enlarging the bezel(s) bit.

The rotary encoder on the back of the case is an interesting design element. Seems like a bit of an awkward spot to have it but I personally kind of like it. If people elect not to have it will there be a "badge" of sorts to fill the hole in the case?

I know the underside of the winglets are to allow led shine through, but will they have some sort of pc/acrylic cover over the holes? Would make picking up the case more comfortable.

Are there any pictures of the bottom of the Polycarb version? I assume this comes with the same weight as well?

Lastly, is there a Discord to keep up with updates?

I'll be watching this very closely. I love the design. There's some interesting things going on with this board. GLWIC!
« Last Edit: Wed, 08 July 2020, 03:26:20 by kimchijody »

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 03:23:54 »
I love this! In if split spacebar becomes available

Lol you would  :))

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 03:51:21 »
Typing test and listed features has me really excited! A smaller weight logo design size with larger margins and better matching corner radii would refine the sophistication to the next level.
« Last Edit: Wed, 08 July 2020, 03:52:59 by zoo »

Offline EnjoyMyInSec

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 04:57:23 »
My favorite keyboard is back to life, get my cash right now  :thumb:

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 05:32:28 »
Although ím not sure how I feel about the silver branding top left, this looks dope. Canít wait to see this hit GB!

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 05:45:59 »
Yes Please. I want this. :thumb:

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 05:59:27 »
Now Keycult will get angry about the bottom design :)

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 05:59:56 »
copy-pasta.. and unique bespoke boards!
no.. thanks!

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 06:02:53 »
Oh snap. Might have to get in on this, good seeing you man!
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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 06:10:30 »
 :thumb:

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 06:47:03 »
I was just thinking about what happened to you the other day

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 07:00:42 »
Very nice design and a unique 10 degree typing angle! And rationale on why the steeper angle?

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 07:12:51 »
Really looking forward for this. Prestige!

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 07:17:19 »
So excited for this!!!

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 07:23:22 »
more of this please.
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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 07:48:27 »
Interesting knob position  ;D
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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 07:49:09 »
this is sick

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 07:59:27 »
followed!
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Offline LuiKang

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 08:03:26 »
Asked for a 15u spacebar, but got 10u. Nice board! Looking to acquire one or two.

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[IC] Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 08:16:21 »
You already know what I think but just want to echo my support for you here as well.
« Last Edit: Thu, 09 July 2020, 09:36:42 by cijanzen »

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 08:41:54 »
Hope I can nab one

Offline break

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 08:51:52 »
Koob!! You know I need arrow keys up top, but I love the details here. Chunky middle accent, unique weight design, PC options... Best of luck with IC and GB!

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 09:27:08 »
This board and the guy who runs it are both v insane, love you Koobae <3

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 09:31:11 »
This thing is going to generate stupid levels of hype, and I'm here to support you all the way, buddy! 

GET IT!!
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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 09:32:10 »
Hate to be debbie downer here, but that bottom is a KC No1. The design language of the sides and badge still look like Exclusive's work. People can feel free to buy whatever they want, but this board resembles a knock-off / clone IMO.

Carry on...

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 10:07:42 »
glwic!!!!!!

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 10:21:57 »
This looks beautiful and the underside cuts are a nice touch. GLWIC!

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 11:11:26 »
Glad to see this out to the wider public, been following you and your stuff for years, been waiting for people to see this though.
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Offline Koobaczech

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 11:16:24 »
A few subjective notes:

One of the things that sticks out to me are the bottom case screw holes. They pour over the edge of the case ever so slightly. Not a huge deal but might be worth considering moving them slightly more inward. Or enlarging the bezel(s) bit.

The rotary encoder on the back of the case is an interesting design element. Seems like a bit of an awkward spot to have it but I personally kind of like it. If people elect not to have it will there be a "badge" of sorts to fill the hole in the case?

I know the underside of the winglets are to allow led shine through, but will they have some sort of pc/acrylic cover over the holes? Would make picking up the case more comfortable.

Are there any pictures of the bottom of the Polycarb version? I assume this comes with the same weight as well?

Lastly, is there a Discord to keep up with updates?

I'll be watching this very closely. I love the design. There's some interesting things going on with this board. GLWIC!
Thanks for the comments Kimchi! I will be scrutinizing the final designs closely don't worry! For the encoder, its all go or no go! There's no way to fill that hole cleanly if no encoder sits there, especially since the hole is filleted like a velocity stack (google it). Also, It"s actually super natural to reach for it in the back, just try making the movements yourself you will see! For the winglets, my original Pandora had polycarbonate inserts in the winglets! I noticed they pop in if you pick the board up and poke them, AND they don't diffuse light down how I want them to. So I elected to leave them out in the redesign! Just have to be careful with the board. I will be taking more photos, but yes its the same as the Alu. You can make the weight out of any material you want, that's just what I did for the protos. No discord, there are already so many discords! Just here and IG are best places to follow. Thanks again!!

Very nice design and a unique 10 degree typing angle! And rationale on why the steeper angle?
Ty Craft! I love the angle paired with a wrist wrest, plus the aesthetics of the angled board! Just a personal detail I guess!

Hate to be debbie downer here, but that bottom is a KC No1. The design language of the sides and badge still look like Exclusive's work. People can feel free to buy whatever they want, but this board resembles a knock-off / clone IMO.
It's alright Visionaire, no downing here. I/we all respect your shared opinion as well as the hard work of other designers! I've mentioned them in my inspirations section and love their work!

Everyone else who has left wonderful comments and opinions, thank you for the tireless support and I'm happy to see everyone's faces and names again! I will be posting more content in the days to come! :thumb:
« Last Edit: Wed, 08 July 2020, 11:23:38 by Koobaczech »

Offline cadrev

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Re: Pandora - The 1 Percent 60%
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 08 July 2020, 11:25:18 »
Ohhhhhhhhh this is super nice. Is thing going to be raffle though? Still, I'm in regardless. That bottom weight looks so elegant.