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Offline FaKe_VirTual

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[IC] GMK Sumi ~ Update No.1
« on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:38:52 »





GMK Sumi is a Set, inspired by the japanese ink painting art - sumi-e 墨絵












The Kits of Sumi.




The Base Kit - Art of Sumi-e 墨絵





The Hiragana Alphas - Yamato 大和民族
[this will be changed soon]






The Spacebar Kit - Man of Culture 文化の男






The Kit was designed with one PANTONE, one RAL and one GMK-Basic Colour.








Renders with the RAMA KOYU.










Deskmat Designs.




Bonsai 盆栽





Sakura 桜





Koi 鯉





Ghost Koi 精神





There are still a lot of things to come, such as the Novelties for this historical Set,
the final Decision on the Deskmat Designs and the possible Collabs between me and high quality Artisan-Keycap makers.
To help me with all my future decisions you can fill in this Form I created.
I'm thankfull for every help and support I can possibly get.


https://forms.gle/WiirqqEbSdNWAxgc8








Future Changes.

The Yamato Kit will soon be updated to a Mono-Hiragana Kit and I am also going to add a 7U and 6.25U Spacebar in alpha colours to it.
For the 40%-and Ortho-People out there, I will be making a 40s/Ortho Kit, so you can also enjoy my Set!
I am still deciding about Novelties, but will let you know as soon as possible.




Changelog.


- The Base Kit has been updated. I've set the Hiragana sublegends in the Base Kit. This was the most requested change and I have to say, that I like it even more that way too!
- An extra F13 Keycap made it into the Base Kit and I removed the "Lock" from the stepped caps lock key.
- The Deskmat designs have also changed a little bit. The User missingnumber made me aware of the fact, that the signiture on the Deskmats was written in chinese. I've changed that into the Japanese way.
- Another Change to the Bonsai Deskmat is that the Katakanas on the right side have been removed. This had multiple reasons.








Because of this set beeing in early stages, I don't list any possible Vendors until the Set is brought to perfection.





~ I want to honor Rensuya for helping me with my first Steps and Kingk22 for these fantastic renders. ~


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By putting this into your signiture, you're supporting me a lot!

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Offline Fnzzy

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:43:02 »
ooooooh look at those desk mats!!
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Offline Abdallah9

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:43:28 »
I love the desk mats, great color way.

Offline martensson

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:44:32 »
Deskmats are an instant buy, and the whole kit looks really well designed. Looking forward to the GB!!


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Offline zakatak

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:47:00 »
I think it looks like a reverse metaverse but otherwise i like it!

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Offline Zeelobby

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:48:33 »
Agree with others on deskmats. I don't mind a lack of novelties honestly, but would love some artisans.

Offline tex_live_utility

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:57:00 »
A lot of people think light mods and dark alphas is bad but I think this is classy. And it has a thematically valid reason to use Japanese sublegends.
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Offline Hydroxide

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:58:16 »
I'm definitely interested in a desk mat, as others have said. Also I think the whole set looks pretty good. Might have to count me in for a full set!

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 10:10:21 »
Good set, great deskmat.

Offline Bl4ck

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 10:10:54 »
Any chance on international kits?

Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 10:16:57 »
I like everything about this set!

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 10:17:13 »
The deskmats

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 10:33:42 »
The deskmats are absolutely gorgeous.
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Offline Shurakai

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 10:51:01 »
This is beautiful. I would have a hard time deciding which deskmat to get...

Also, please keep us ortho folks in mind, even if there's just a little bit of compatibility thrown into the base sets.

Offline travwal

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 11:01:55 »
This is one of the first sets I have seen where I like the light mods with dark alphas. Very nicely done!

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 11:34:29 »
Love it!

Offline Missingnumber

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 12:07:25 »
I was somewhat excited to see this because I am interested in both calligraphy and sumi-e art in general. I do like the color scheme of the keycap set, which is the most important part. However, the rest of the product could use some work.

First, why was the hiragana set called "Ainu"? The Ainu are a race of people from the northern parts Japanese islands with a traditional culture quite different than the Japanese. It seems a bit out of place here, but maybe there is a relevant history I am unaware of.

Next, with apologies to 黒土さん, the deskmat artwork looks amateurish to me. I'm not qualified to speak on the drawings, but at the least I can say that 「インク」 is not well written. The brush strokes for the ン are even backwards. It would probably best to remove the word entirely as the katakana doesn't fit the theme in general.

Edit: Just realized the signature stamp is 墨. Whoops. I thought it was the artist's name, but now it's obvious. And I'm unsure why you would have "Sumi" as the artist's signature.
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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 12:30:28 »
I was somewhat excited to see this because I am interested in both calligraphy and sumi-e art in general. I do like the color scheme of the keycap set, which is the most important part. However, the rest of the product could use some work.

First, why was the hiragana set called "Ainu"? The Ainu are a race of people from the northern parts Japanese islands with a traditional culture quite different than the Japanese. It seems a bit out of place here, but maybe there is a relevant history I am unaware of.

Next, with apologies to 黒土さん, the deskmat artwork looks amateurish to me. I'm not qualified to speak on the drawings, but at the least I can say that 「インク」 is not well written. The brush strokes for the ン are even backwards. It would probably best to remove the word entirely as the katakana doesn't fit the theme in general.

Edit: Just realized the signature stamp is 墨. Whoops. I thought it was the artist's name, but now it's obvious. And I'm unsure why you would have "Sumi" as the artist's signature.
First I have to apologie for the calligraphy, but I'm not able to proper write or even read in Japanese. Im actually from germany and just satisfied with japanese culture.
Yeah, the artwork is not professionally drawn because it was made by me in my spare time. I'm a student in engineering, not an actual artist.
I've choosen the Word Ainu for the Hiragana alphas, because I liked to name it after a traditional japanese race, so that the set gets more of a historical touch. By looking for a suiting name in the Internet I came to this. But the Name is able to change, so there is no bound to it.
As I said in the IC, the Set is still in work and definetly needs some extra work, until it reaches perfection. So this criticism is very usefull.
(I already thought that the things google translator is telling me aren't quiet right and here is the proof.)

Thanks for your comment!

Offline Missingnumber

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 12:40:18 »
I'm glad you are open to criticism, because I think this is a cool project.

At the very least you should change the name from Ainu. They were a completely different people with their own language and their land (northern Honshu and Hokkaido) was taken over by the Japanese in relatively recent history. The race of people that became what we think of today as the Japanese are the Yamato (大和民族).

Edit: This isn't to say that the modern Ainu (or Ryukyuan people for that matter) aren't Japanese. They certainly are, just as much as those people of Yamato heritage or even more recent immigrants to the country.  But sumi-e is not something anyone would associate with their culture.
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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 12:58:11 »
this is beautifully done

Offline FaKe_VirTual

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 13:02:13 »
I'm glad you are open to criticism, because I think this is a cool project.

At the very least you should change the name from Ainu. They were a completely different people with their own language and their land (northern Honshu and Hokkaido) was taken over by the Japanese in relatively recent history. The race of people that became what we think of today as the Japanese are the Yamato (大和民族).

Edit: This isn't to say that the modern Ainu (or Ryukyuan people for that matter) aren't Japanese. They certainly are, just as much as those people of Yamato heritage or even more recent immigrants to the country.  But sumi-e is not something anyone would associate with their culture.
I changed it!
Thanks for your research and time spent with this issue!

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 13:10:00 »
I like the colorway. Japanese inspirations are really beyond the point of being overused at this point, so I have nothing to say regarding the theme. I do have a few useful kitting suggestions, though:
  • Add R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn to the base kit. A lot of people prefer these to R2 PgUp, R3 PgDn for their 65%/75% right column setups.
  • The base is kind of large, so it may be worth considering removing 1.75u stepped Control and 2u Shift to help keep the price down.
  • Add an extra alpha B to the spacebar kit, for ergo boards.
  • 1.75c isn't a very useful spacebar key only two or three 40% boards use it, iirc. Considering removing it, as that would save two keys.

Finally, please don't use CDN image links in your posts. Upload the images to Imgur instead. Your post looks like this in all of my browsers because of privacy/XSS settings:




P.S. Mandatory Hiragana in any way would kill this set for me.
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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 13:40:20 »
gimme that deskmat

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 13:52:20 »
gimme that deskmat

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 14:39:06 »
Those deskmats have the same problem as Mizu deskmat, when you put the keyboard on it you can't see the fish, and Mizu even had bigger fish on it.

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 14:51:40 »
Won't be getting this set, even though it is very beautiful. I do however want all of these deskmats. Please consider putting them all out. I'd buy one of each easy.
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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 15:17:28 »
In for pretty much everything, beautiful work so far!!

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 16:18:37 »
For the 「インク」("Ink" in Japanese) word on the deskmat, I think you used「ソ」instead of 「ン」which are different katakanas and pronounce differently.

Consider changing it to「ン」if you decide to keep the katakanas.

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 17:40:50 »
Yes!

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 17:47:16 »
Not going to lie i'm not really considering GMK Darling becasue the Deskmats didn't turn out too great and they dont have hirigana alphas. This one ha hiragana alphas AND 3 awesome deskmats so i'm already considering it greatly.


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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 17:48:48 »
I do however want all of these deskmats. Please consider putting them all out. I'd buy one of each easy.

Exactly the same here, I'll be happy to buy 'em all.

Offline Tyson

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 18:07:50 »
Nice set, reminds me of inverse GMK Metaverse! I'm glad more inverse gmk sets are coming out! Dark Alphas with Light mods!

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 18:08:11 »
Really liking how this set is themed, especially the deskmats! I think everything is tied together well.

And, slightly off-topic:
Not going to lie i'm not really considering GMK Darling becasue the Deskmats didn't turn out too great and they dont have hirigana alphas. This one ha hiragana alphas AND 3 awesome deskmats so i'm already considering it greatly.

FWIW, Darling's base kit has hiragana sublegends, since you seem to be confused about that.
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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 18:11:08 »
super pretty, I want everything.
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Offline Shurakai

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 20:15:49 »
Those deskmats have the same problem as Mizu deskmat, when you put the keyboard on it you can't see the fish, and Mizu even had bigger fish on it.

Split ortho!

Hiragana only alpha kit, plz.

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 21:45:09 »
Love the theme and the colors. I think the deskmats are pretty great as well.

Personally I'd prefer to see Hiragana subbed alphas in the base kit. I'd also like to see 6.25u and 7u spacebars added to the alternate alphas kit, whether the alt alphas are Latin or Hiragana-subbed. I definitely think Hiragana subs are much better than Hiragana-only alphas.

It'd also be cool to see extra B keys (Alice support) added to the spacebar kit (extra Latin B and extra Hiragana sub B ideally!!). Finally F13 would be a really nice addition as well, although that is very much the lowest priority.

Thank you for your work so far and looking forward to following this IC!

Offline zstsc

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 22:12:16 »
Please consider to include the hiragana alphas in the base kit. So we do not need to buy two sets to fully enjoy the essence of the art of sumi-
I think most of us are into those hiragana subbed alphas in the first place.

I am glad to see a WoB hiragana set aside from the pad printed OCO jap.
Is the RAL 5004 color similar to the GMK metropolis base with white legends?
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Offline octix

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 22:58:48 »
Really liking that deskmat. I need it!


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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 23:18:36 »
Absolutely gorgeous! And those deskmats! Wew

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 23:39:30 »
I think icon mods or maybe a full modifier novelty kit would work well since the regular text does not seem to fit in with the art theme of the set. A hiragana only alphas kit would be nice too since there aren't too many of those around and would be nice to see it on a set like this.

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 01:39:34 »
I think making the stepped caps just say "Caps" would make the look more consistent. Otherwise, great colorway and awesome deskmats.

Offline Missingnumber

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #41 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 10:31:33 »
I disagree with those saying that hiragana sublegends match the theme. Sumi-e is often minimalistic, and double legends look cluttered to me.

And if anyone actually cared about the Japanese aspect of keycaps people would include caps that help with typing in Japanese (the hiragana/katakana/romaji toggle or the half-width/full-width button) or even full JIS compatibility sets. No one uses the hiragana sublegends to type in Japanese, so it's nothing more than a novelty people can't even read. Only one other person pointing out the misspelling in Japanese in the mat shows that.

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #42 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 10:41:08 »
Loving this!

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #43 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 10:42:18 »
how about scrap the latin legends and go full hiragana for yamato

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #44 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 13:31:04 »
And if anyone actually cared about the Japanese aspect of keycaps people would include caps that help with typing in Japanese (the hiragana/katakana/romaji toggle or the half-width/full-width button) or even full JIS compatibility sets. No one uses the hiragana sublegends to type in Japanese, so it's nothing more than a novelty people can't even read. Only one other person pointing out the misspelling in Japanese in the mat shows that.

Well said.

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 14:22:51 »
This set looks so elegant...I dig it. Very much so.

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #46 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 14:32:16 »
Make every single one of those deskmats. Also the set looks nice.

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #47 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 17:05:43 »
I disagree with those saying that hiragana sublegends match the theme. Sumi-e is often minimalistic, and double legends look cluttered to me.

And if anyone actually cared about the Japanese aspect of keycaps people would include caps that help with typing in Japanese (the hiragana/katakana/romaji toggle or the half-width/full-width button) or even full JIS compatibility sets. No one uses the hiragana sublegends to type in Japanese, so it's nothing more than a novelty people can't even read. Only one other person pointing out the misspelling in Japanese in the mat shows that.

Latin only alphas to me look uninspired and western, and could mean anything red black white

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 19:06:47 »
Latin only alphas to me look uninspired and western, and could mean anything red black white

On the one hand, I do see what you mean about ambiguity.  But I do think the simple set with just Latin looks very sumi-e to me, due to the well-matched color scheme.  It could be because I have it in mind when looking at the renders, but the understated modifiers and simple text really work for me.

And FaKe_VirTual, do you have any ideas for novelties?  If you plan on doing them and need ideas, a black on white enso (Zen circle) could be pretty cool if it's not too hard for manufacturing.
Here's an article on the subject:
https://medium.com/@mariogomes/analysis-of-the-ens%C5%8D-symbol-f200f0798692

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Re: [IC] GMK Sumi - Updated with Future Changes
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 21:55:28 »

And FaKe_VirTual, do you have any ideas for novelties?  If you plan on doing them and need ideas, a black on white enso (Zen circle) could be pretty cool if it's not too hard for manufacturing.
Here's an article on the subject:
https://medium.com/@mariogomes/analysis-of-the-ens%C5%8D-symbol-f200f0798692

I like this!


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