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[GB] KAT Refined | GB ends in one week!
« on: Wed, 30 September 2020, 15:06:07 »
Welcome to GMK KAT Refined
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    TX66 by TX Keyboard Inc & Iron180 by Smith + Rune






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    EU: Mykeyboard.eu
    US: TX Keyboards
    Canada: Deskhero
    Asia: zFrontier
    Oceania: Daily Clack
    Ukraine\Russia\Belarus: Funkeys
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    Updates


    — Launched the GB!
    — Received new samples (round 2).
    — Round 3 of samples will be ordered soon!







    Cap colors


    — BoW will be the same as approved in round 1. Stock white (same as KAT Milkshake, KAT Alpha).
    — WoB is still TBD. New samples will be ordered but current sample will be used unless we can achieve a deeper black.





    Potato shot with Katakana Cherry PBT on the sides.



    General
    - I shot the caps with different types of light, during different parts of the day. The shot on the wooden table has a lot of light hitting the caps so you can clearly see the difference in the brightness of the caps and the black color.

    WoB caps
    - Darkness of the black is not as deep as GMK as you can see. There is an option to go even darker but it will have severe implications on the legends. I am in discussions with Keyreative currently to see if there is a way we can go deeper black without messing up the legends somehow. It might be a lengthy process but I will order new sample caps and see where we end up. For now this will be the selected version until further notice. TBD!

    WoB legends
    - These are rocking the same legends as last time. Thicker, but works very well in this case. I am happy where they are at so no changes expected.

    BoW caps
    - I did not receive new samples of the White Stock color that I approved already. But I did receive KAT 176 which looks nice, but it is NOT what we are going with. It is only in the photos so show off the new thinner legends.

    BoW legends
    - These legends are new and approximately 20% thinner than in Round 1 and WoB. They look much better but I still need to increase the letterspacing a bit to avoid having the letters almost touch. New round of sample caps will be ordered.










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    Iron180 by Smith + Rune


    Iron180 by Smith + Rune


    Lodestone by Jae & Flex, FLX x Proto[Typist]


    Iron165 by Smith + Rune


    Iron165 by Smith + Rune


    Candybar by TKC








    Kit renders — BoW

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    Kit renders — WoB

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    About the set

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    I’ve been curious about the KAT profile ever since it was released. Heard good things about the typing experience and sound but I could just never get past the legends. As with most sculpted profiles the legends are really big, centered and seem less thought out than GMK/Cherry.

    That being said, I get that some people love them. And that’s cool, I don’t want to step on designers toes but I am just not into that look at all. I thought that perhaps there are more people like me out there, who are annoyed with GMK icons/legends but can’t find a good alternative. Or people who are willing to try a more sculpted profile but just can’t see themselves using centered legends/icons.

    This one is for you.








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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched. Let's go!
    « Reply #1 on: Thu, 01 October 2020, 01:38:11 »
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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #2 on: Fri, 02 October 2020, 09:56:51 »
    I am all IN!

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    « Reply #3 on: Fri, 02 October 2020, 17:23:51 »
    Best KAT set ever.

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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #4 on: Fri, 02 October 2020, 19:42:47 »
    Love the set (or two sets), MacSurfy. I am however a bit weary about the quality of the dyesubbing from Keyreative after the whole KAT Milkshake debacle (misaligned icons, blurry edges, etc.). If this set would be plagued by the same imperfections it would be even more severe, due to its intricate nature. Are you in contact with Keyreative and do you know if they can guarantee that the same errors won't occur with this set?
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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #5 on: Sat, 03 October 2020, 01:48:33 »
    Love the set (or two sets), MacSurfy. I am however a bit weary about the quality of the dyesubbing from Keyreative after the whole KAT Milkshake debacle (misaligned icons, blurry edges, etc.). If this set would be plagued by the same imperfections it would be even more severe, due to its intricate nature. Are you in contact with Keyreative and do you know if they can guarantee that the same errors won't occur with this set?

    KAT Eternal has been shipping for a while and from what I know it does not have any of these issues. It's not problem free though since some buyers have reported shrinkage of the spacebars which Keyreative is already fixing so hopefully that is all taken care of before all orders are shipped. So all in all I am optimistic and I think Keyreative is focused on getting better at delivering perfect products so they don't have to redo anything since that's just not a good way to run a business.

    Hope that answers your worries. Thank you!  :thumb:

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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #6 on: Sat, 03 October 2020, 15:02:42 »
    Can I mix this with the mods from KAT Monochrome? I like their pure icon/no text mods.
    Wondering how similar the white and black shades are (Refined vs Monochrome)?

    Offline azzipa

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    « Reply #7 on: Sat, 03 October 2020, 21:56:00 »
    Am a bit in awe of the work and attention to detail you've put into this, MacSurfy. Nothing simple about your design but it exudes simplicity. I'm in for WoB, decided on Text Mods at the finish line. Surprised myself.

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    « Reply #8 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 04:19:54 »
    never thought i'd ever join a gb that isn't gmk, but here we are  :thumb:

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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #9 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 13:26:52 »
    In for WoB and BoW !
    Thanks again for the French kits !

    Offline dibstern

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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #10 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 17:52:31 »
    I'm so confused, why no stepped control? Massive oversight?
    Someone please dear god run a KAT Deep Navy w/ Mac Modifiers + Rama keycap set.


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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #11 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 05:04:53 »
    Can I mix this with the mods from KAT Monochrome? I like their pure icon/no text mods.
    Wondering how similar the white and black shades are (Refined vs Monochrome)?

    Not sure what that will look like but if you want to mix then you are free to do so. Whites are different but the black should be the same.

    Am a bit in awe of the work and attention to detail you've put into this, MacSurfy. Nothing simple about your design but it exudes simplicity. I'm in for WoB, decided on Text Mods at the finish line. Surprised myself.

    never thought i'd ever join a gb that isn't gmk, but here we are  :thumb:

    In for WoB and BoW !
    Thanks again for the French kits !

    Thank you dudes!  :thumb:

    I'm so confused, why no stepped control? Massive oversight?

    Not an oversight but it was not requested during the long IC phase, so it was never added.



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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #12 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 08:21:44 »
    Can't decide between icon or text+icon mods. Help!

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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #13 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 09:03:58 »
    Can't decide between icon or text+icon mods. Help!

    Let me help you: icon


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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #14 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 17:24:47 »
    Can't decide between icon or text+icon mods. Help!

    Let me help you: icon

    This is correct  :D

    Offline leavenember

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    « Reply #15 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 18:21:46 »
    Great job with this!

    Everything is so polished on this GB, from all the work on legends, simple kitting for beginners as well as options for non-standard layouts, overall very excited for this!!

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    « Reply #16 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 01:55:16 »
    I'm getting BoW and WoB for myself and BoW for the missus.


    You know what would be even more refined though MacSurfy? VoC.

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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #17 on: Wed, 07 October 2020, 14:24:20 »
    Great job with this!

    Everything is so polished on this GB, from all the work on legends, simple kitting for beginners as well as options for non-standard layouts, overall very excited for this!!

    Thank you!

    I'm getting BoW and WoB for myself and BoW for the missus.


    You know what would be even more refined though MacSurfy? VoC.

    Thank u! VoC? As in Violet on Cream? That's Hiney's set and it's very unlikely to happen with Refined legends :)

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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #18 on: Wed, 07 October 2020, 15:13:50 »
    Are we going to get wob samples before GB is over? I'd like to see the quality of reverse dye sub before purchasing
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    « Reply #19 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 03:02:47 »
    I'm getting BoW and WoB for myself and BoW for the missus.


    You know what would be even more refined though MacSurfy? VoC.

    Thank u! VoC? As in Violet on Cream? That's Hiney's set and it's very unlikely to happen with Refined legends :)
    Maybe a colab? The world deserves it!
    Second most refined colorway would be nines, and I bet Emir wouldn't mind!

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    « Reply #20 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 05:26:16 »
    Superb set in every way, great to work to everyone.  Looking forward to using these on various builds.

    WoB all sets and B0W all sets ordered.  Thank you.
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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #21 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 06:46:59 »
    I really love the attention to details you put in your set that makes it very special.

    Never thought I would be interested in simple BOW or WOB color sheme, to my surprise with your set it is.
    So interested in fact that I may pull the trigger for a BOW, WOB, or both :p


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    Re: [GB] KAT Refined | GB launched!
    « Reply #22 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 06:54:26 »
    Are we going to get wob samples before GB is over? I'd like to see the quality of reverse dye sub before purchasing

    Hopefully! I don't know though.. timings keep getting pushed back and forth. I heard "next week" 3 weeks ago.

    Offline hyphy

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    « Reply #23 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 10:02:56 »
    New to the game and you just sold me on my first set! BoW Alpha/WoB iMods!

    Your work and image samples look amazing, thanks for your efforts!

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    « Reply #24 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 17:48:18 »

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    « Reply #25 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 01:27:28 »
    I received a photo today with the updated legends/icons and they look great. So the bleed has been sorted.

    The photo also included WoB samples but the overall quality and white balance was too poor for me to share here. Going to ask them to send it to me instead.

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    « Reply #26 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 04:15:19 »
    I'm still going back and forth between WoB or BoW... :-\

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    « Reply #27 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 04:32:59 »
    I am hosting a little giveaway on Reddit. Will close the raffle in about 30hrs.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/j7vaxe/kat_refined_giveaway/

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    « Reply #28 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 05:29:30 »
    This set hurt my AMEX LOL.
    I mean... you gotta get a full set in both wob and bow right!?
     :thumb:

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    « Reply #29 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 07:11:34 »
    This set hurt my AMEX LOL.
    I mean... you gotta get a full set in both wob and bow right!?
     :thumb:

    this is true

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    « Reply #30 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 07:31:42 »
    Up, just did it :D

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    « Reply #31 on: Sat, 10 October 2020, 07:24:49 »
    Some samples to let us know how KAT reverse-dye-sub looks like will be very helpful.
    I'm mostly into the WoB sets.

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    « Reply #32 on: Sat, 10 October 2020, 11:06:35 »
    This is beautiful. As someone new to this: how would the quality compare to GMK, would this be noticeably more flimsy? I have a Tai-Hao keycaps set, would this be of better quality?

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    « Reply #33 on: Sat, 10 October 2020, 11:14:12 »
    Some samples to let us know how KAT reverse-dye-sub looks like will be very helpful.
    I'm mostly into the WoB sets.

    GLWGB!

    Mentioned a few posts above yours that I do not have those samples yet. But hopefully they will be here next week. I am still waiting for confirmation on that but the samples exist (in China). Not going to share the photo I have of them since the quality was pretty bad.

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    « Reply #34 on: Sat, 10 October 2020, 11:36:09 »
    Not going to share the photo I have of them since the quality was pretty bad.

    I have to agree, potato photos started a few drama recently where there was no problem at all.

    Some samples to let us know how KAT reverse-dye-sub looks like will be very helpful.

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    « Reply #35 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 19:24:59 »
    Placed my order. :thumb:

    How is the GB going so far?  Are all the minimum's going to be met so all the kits will be made?


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    « Reply #36 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:07:22 »
    Placed my order. :thumb:

    How is the GB going so far?  Are all the minimum's going to be met so all the kits will be made?



    Yes.  As of October 8 (see below):

    All kits will be made
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    « Reply #37 on: Wed, 14 October 2020, 05:07:19 »
    I have a question:
    Is black common black of KAT colors? I want to reduce the cost by buying both white and black but avoiding buying black spacebar kit to save some money this time and buy it later with some kind of other kits with black colors (because it has no legends it is more universal)

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    « Reply #38 on: Wed, 14 October 2020, 06:12:36 »
    I have a question:
    Is black common black of KAT colors? I want to reduce the cost by buying both white and black but avoiding buying black spacebar kit to save some money this time and buy it later with some kind of other kits with black colors (because it has no legends it is more universal)

    That's a tough one to answer. Quite a few KAT sets have been in GB already but only two(?) of which one is mine is using black. So yes, I can imagine more sets will use the same black in the future, but far from all sets use black. So you might have to wait a while until it turns up. U can always try to grab the WoB spacebar kit on the aftermarket later, otherwise you might have to wait a long time for the next set to come around. But who knows, maybe we will see an IC for that soon.

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    « Reply #40 on: Sat, 17 October 2020, 21:03:22 »
    Why is KAT Refined Alpha BoW sold out on mykeyboard.eu?  Was about to order...

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    « Reply #41 on: Sun, 18 October 2020, 02:33:47 »
    Why is KAT Refined Alpha BoW sold out on mykeyboard.eu?  Was about to order...

    It's not sold out for me? All kits are available for order here.

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    « Reply #42 on: Tue, 20 October 2020, 10:37:25 »
    Round 2 samples have arrived! Both WoB and BoW this time. Will post photos tomorrow so stay tuned.

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    « Reply #44 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 02:19:16 »
    I can't wait for them to arrive

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    « Reply #46 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 10:50:12 »
    To my eyes, KAT WS1 still looks best. I prefer it over KAT176. My 2 cents...

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    « Reply #47 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 10:54:48 »
    KAT 176 looks to be a good compromise. Though I vote  for WS1 if the choice is between KAT WS2 and WS1

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    « Reply #48 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 10:59:45 »
    KAT 176 looks to be a good compromise. Though I vote  for WS1 if the choice is between KAT WS2 and WS1

    Yeah WS2 is def not an option for this set.  :D

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    « Reply #49 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 11:11:41 »
    KAT 176 looks nice!