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[IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
« on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:09:41 »
WELCOME TO:


TOTALLY BODACIOUS IDEA BRO
Right on man! The 80s were huge for me. Firstly, I was born in the 80s, and thanks to my older siblings I grew up playing the 1986 Sega classic and love everything about the Retrowave iconography. Thus, GMK Retrowave was born.This is unashamedly out there 80s. Bright, fluorescent colours. Unmistakable retrowave novelties and ultimately a bit of fun! Excellent.

Now, to set the scene:
Its 1987. Youve just come off Venice beach on a hot July afternoon as the sun is setting. But your day has only just begun. You run to the arcade. You grab a cola, your quarters and head to your favourite seat. You strap in, load your coins, hands on the wheel and wait. 3.2.1. DRIVE.
You pass each car with ease, changing the station on the radio as you note the time left on your clock. You speed up level by level as day turns to night but youre not slowing down. You look out beyond the cyan palm trees, towards the jagged hills as their glow increases and you begin to dream. Its just you, your F40 and a never ending road, driving towards that neon sun.
 

IC FORM! PLEASE COMPLETE

BASE KIT:
I like big base kits and I cannot lie. Numpad and UK-ISO in base. This is the 80s, small kits aren't a thing yet.


KATAKANA ALPHAS:
Bring in the essence of those neon signs on a Tokyo night, with these replacement alphas. Should tie in nicely with our second deskmat we are busy working on.

BARS:
Let's hope these are flat? But if not I made them yellow, like a banana.

NOVELTIES:
Really happy with these. Obviously no RETROWAVE set would be complete without that iconic sun, but peep the neon flamingo and even the iconic F40 rear exhaust (I tried the Testarossa but just couldn't make it work). Vintage high tops and an 80s beatbox complete the scene. Vinyls and some roller skates is the cherry on top.

COMPACT:
Compatibility for those who, for whatever reason, do not like using an actual keyboard


DESKMAT: SUNSET
Coming soon. First revision will be getting modified (Sun gradient lines, and revised colours)

DESKMAT: 2
COMING SOON

RAMA x RETROWAVE

Probably the single most identifiable piece of the iconography.

RENDERS:
HH60 by Hong Hobbies:



Evolv by Alpha Studios:




U80 by RAMA WORKS




J-01 by ProtoTypist




VENDORS:
USA: :::PROJECT KEYBOARD:::
CANADA: :::DESKHERO:::
EUROPE: :::TBA:::
United Kingdom: :::PROTOTYPIST:::
OCEANIA: :::SWITCHKEYS:::
ASIA: :::MONOKEI:::
CHINA: :::ZFRONTIER:::

GROUP BUY START:
Early 2021.

A SPECIAL THANKS:
- Firstly to OCM for his brilliant work on the novelties, honestly a master craftsmen. Wishing you the best of luck as you pursue your priorities outside of this industry.
- Nathanalphaman for almost going blind when I first showed him this set.. Since then admitting it's grown on him.. Slightly. You're a true friend man, ily.
- PTR for the awesome intro graphics and video teaser.
- Everyone I've had the privilege to bounce ideas off. It's no secret I adore what I now do full time, so thanks for everyone for being a part of it!

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CHANGELOG:
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15th October: Added IC Form
25th December: Added some Vendors. Added Sinpra Collab
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Offline JKNY

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:11:35 »
Looks great, beautiful set I'm in

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:15:17 »
Can't wait for it

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:15:31 »
Interested!

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:16:07 »
This looks pretty good but maybe try and design a more unique deskmat? A lot of deskmats look exactly like that

Offline webstersx

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:18:43 »
100% in!

Offline JoltFX

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« Reply #6 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:22:52 »
Ive stuck to more clean simple kits but I think its time I go for it!! Now just for the right board to complement


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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:46:03 »
I'm getting analog dreams vibes, which means I'm 100% in :thumb:

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:52:31 »
Looks amazing @switchkeys.

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:55:24 »
This set is so loud and Im here for it!!

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« Reply #10 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 21:08:24 »
keyset: Yup
deskmat: Yup
RAMA cap: Yup

I'm in!

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 21:27:42 »
Dang looks RAD! Gonna pair it with Alexotos' MECH mat!

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 21:35:05 »
Hey! Just noticed a few inaccuracies with the renders:
  • 1.25u R4 Alt is different to 1.5u Alt Gr
  • Iso & Numpad Enter legends look proportionally weird
GL with the IC Stef!

EDIT: Thanks for clearing up these for me NathanAlphaMan, guess you learn something new everyday :)
« Last Edit: Mon, 12 October 2020, 21:55:40 by Agilr »

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 22:16:25 »
Hello good sir, this is a simple confirmed acquisition for me.

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« Reply #14 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 22:23:41 »
looks great, please consider daily clack as oce vendor!  :thumb:
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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 22:51:47 »
Absolutely loving the outrun vibes I'm getting from this - not every set makes me instantly want to buy it, but this one does! Props for the huge base kit

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 22:57:30 »
looks great, please consider daily clack as oce vendor!  :thumb:

 :thumb: :cool:

Anyway, keen as for this. Id cop one of everything, but an even better idea is an alternate alpha kit, instead of seperate kata subs. Then i'll be all in.

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 23:05:28 »
You know I'm here to show love and support for a good mate. Glad to see the IC drop!

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 23:09:34 »
i love this set, give me 2 of ech  :eek:

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« Reply #19 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 23:20:01 »
Love the set Stef, pls listen to Stew about the alternate base kit idea though!  :cool:

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« Reply #20 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 23:36:16 »
Love the set Stef, pls listen to Stew about the alternate base kit idea though!  :cool:

For once i agree with LZRD and Stew

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 01:36:23 »
That RAMA key is a must.  DOnt love the Mods, they are too bright for me but the overall idea is cool.
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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 01:51:00 »
Kinda looks like KAT Slurp... but without the compatibility.
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« Reply #23 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 04:43:00 »
This looks pretty good but maybe try and design a more unique deskmat? A lot of deskmats look exactly like that
agreed. The deskmat rn is extremely generic

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Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 06:01:35 »
Hey man, interesting set. Not at all my thing but I'm sure this will be killer for some people.

I have one suggestion for you; In your J-01 ISO render (thanks for adding one  :) ) the ISO R3 and R4 keys are discrepant. The base kit suggests that you are going full UK-ISO (which is great!) but the render does not follow suit. Not a serious sin and was probably just a mix up when rendering, though it's probably in your best interest to make a small amendment to it.

Best of luck with your IC!


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« Reply #25 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 06:41:23 »
The compact kit description cracks me up. But seriously, work with a 40s user to fine tune that kit. Great colors. ;)

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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 10:42:19 »
Very interesting set. I would seriously consider going for it. Also loved the 80s

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« Reply #27 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 16:00:25 »
flamingos and palm trees yeah boiii after laser and vaporwave this is a 100% buy :eek:

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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 16:16:11 »
Color combination is fab!!

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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 16:20:29 »
I would love to see some orange or teal incorporated in here. Or a volt/UV green instead of the yellow even.

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« Reply #30 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 17:19:17 »
The colours hurt my eyes, i love it!
Rama's are also quite amazing!

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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 14 October 2020, 08:03:36 »
Set looks amazing, nice and bright. But i am with Stew and the boys on this one. it needs to be a full alt base kit.

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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 14 October 2020, 08:28:30 »
Looks nice. That Rama looks sick too! Will just wait for GB Dates.

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 14 October 2020, 10:46:32 »
This set is so aggressively bright and I love it. Those RAMA keys are PRIMO. Would have to go buy programmable LEDs along with this, then re-map ESC to be a script so when I press that sweet, sweet RAMA it would change all the lights to a Retrowave color scheme and start playing that song from the video in the original post  :cool:

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 14 October 2020, 19:32:31 »
Thanks so much for the early comments guys. We've just added an IC form if you'd like to share any feedback we can keep a hold of.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-qPzP1fNMIC0FeT0jPn70HnjqjJGTwNeSExbNs3L33colBQ/viewform

I'll be reviewing all feedback and comments here - I hear your comments about the deskmat, for those looking for something else unique we've hopefully got some good news to share soon

Many thanks!

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 14 October 2020, 21:05:18 »
Obligatory video, before anyone calls this a vaporwave set:


The colors you've picked are very nice and vibrant, and they are the colors representative of Outrun aesthetics. Great job there. Also, the artisans are fantastic. I'm not a fan of the novelties, but that's not to say that they aren't done well, too.

As for the kitting, it's quite good, but there is still room for improvement. Here are some suggestions for your consideration:

Base kit
Looks good for the most part, the most glaring thing is the lack of a R4 1.25u Fn key.
  • Change R4 1.25u Menu to Fn.
    • Fn is the more common legend, used on a wide variety of boards and sizes. Menu has limited uses, primarily for standard/non-programmable TKL and full-size boards with 6.25u bottom rows. But in these cases, Fn is a viable replacement for it, whereas Menu isn't really a viable replacement for Fn in other cases.
    • Fn is also more popular overall, so it would be the preferred legend choice here.
    • The alternative would be to add a R4 1.25u Fn key together with the Menu key, but I think there's no need for that since Fn can substitute for Menu, as described above.

  • Potentially replace the UK-specific ISO keys with basic 4-key ISO support (using R3 \|, R4 <> for the alphas).
    • Let's talk numbers. According to the results of the r/MK Megasurvey 2020, ISO-UK users only make up around 2.6% of users in the community (for reference, ISO users as a whole make up around 16.2%). This implies that only a small number of users will be able to make use of the UK-specific alpha keys you've included in the kit.
    • Statistically speaking, these keys could be put to better use by, say, adding more compatibility for Mac users (1.5u Super keys), or by being removed to save a couple of $ off the kit price. With three custom colors and a large base kit, this might make a difference when it comes down to retail pricing.
    • On the other hand, I will say that UK users react positively to seeing their keys included in base kits, so this may result in a slight increase in sales coming from the UK. Maybe? I don't really have the numbers for this, so it's just speculation.
    • My proposition is to change the ISO compatibility to that seen in sets like GMK Navy, GMK βeta, GMK Evil Dolch etc., with the R3 \|, R4 <> keys. You can read here why these legends in particular.

  • Remove the numpad 00 key.
    • Honestly, this key is sort of useless. No common ≥60% layouts use it, and it's pretty much only useful for some standalone numpads (which are rare, and this kit doesn't fully cover them anyway) and as a second B substitute for Alice boards (which is irrelevant in this case since there is a second B in the base kit).
    • For these reasons, it can be removed without any major detriment to the set.
    • If you really want to keep it, I actually suggest replacing the two homing variants of the numpad 5 key with a single non-homing key.

  • Optionally, add two R4 1.5u Super keys and a second R4 1u Alt key.
    • These keys cover the aforementioned Mac users, as well as users who like to use the OG HHKB bottom row setup on their HHKB or WKL boards.
    • The second 1u Alt is also useful for various 40% boards.

Katakana alphas kit
Almost perfect! There is just one small omission.
  • Add the missing quaternary (top-right) sublegend to the R1 -_ホ key.
    • This character is a Japanese prolonged sound mark (chōonpu), the same one as on the `~ー key.
    • This sublegend is required for complete and accurate coverage of the ANSI-JP layout, which the kit is based on.
    • For reference, see this guide and the GMK Mecha-01 base kit (whence the molds for your kit came).

Bars kit
Looks good.
  • You may just want to make the 6u bars alpha-colored (purple) instead of accent-colored ().

Compact kit
This one's a doozy. It's getting late, and I have work in the morning, so I'm going to leave this one for next time :D



All in all, I think this is a great looking and well executed set, which I have no doubt will do well come GB time. Additionally, I hope you will find the above information useful when making adjustments to the kits. Happy to hear your thoughts and answer any questions.

Edit: grammar
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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 23:12:20 »
Agree on making space bar not yellow.. or just getting rid of all the yellow..Me HATE yellow with a passion. But either way, this might be the best pink, and the best 80's/cyberpunk/retrowave/whatever set I've seen yet. Absolutely love it. Only way it could be better, is in SA profile to go with retro theme... and becasue SA is the best thing ever.

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 23:19:24 »
I made a crappy render with some alternative colors, and a more orange toned spacebar and arrows. Idk if that is frowned upon but really love this set and want to give my thoughts as I will more than likely be buying.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 23:31:36 »
Keep yellow. Add cyan alternate accents.  :thumb:

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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 16 October 2020, 15:10:14 »
I made a crappy render with some alternative colors, and a more orange toned spacebar and arrows. Idk if that is frowned upon but really love this set and want to give my thoughts as I will more than likely be buying.
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+1, I like the concept very much, but I too would prefer some more orange and blue on the mods in order to cover more of the outrun color palette

Edit, forgot to tell what I really like: Rama Artisans (both of them, I'm getting one of the two variants for sure), all the novelties and the katakana option
« Last Edit: Fri, 16 October 2020, 15:18:56 by Araset »
Thank you for GMK Striker R2

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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 16 October 2020, 15:22:12 »
Keep yellow. Add cyan alternate accents.  :thumb:

YES! THIS! (Well the second part anyway.... booooo yellow booo!) lol

« Last Edit: Fri, 16 October 2020, 15:37:11 by Havattack »

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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 16 October 2020, 15:35:57 »
How do I add this to my signature? (what's the link)
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« Reply #42 on: Mon, 19 October 2020, 09:15:03 »
Can someone please confirm I'm not a weeb if I buy the katakana alphas, k ty. Very cool set btw.

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« Reply #43 on: Mon, 19 October 2020, 09:45:33 »
1.5u Super(s) in the "big" base kit would be rad

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« Reply #44 on: Mon, 19 October 2020, 10:28:05 »
Beautiful set, I'm in.

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« Reply #45 on: Mon, 19 October 2020, 11:40:31 »
Can someone please confirm I'm not a weeb if I buy the katakana alphas, k ty. Very cool set btw.

I don't care. Sub-legends are awesome, Moon symbols, communist letters, whatever the specific sub-legend is, I'm getting it.

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« Reply #46 on: Mon, 19 October 2020, 15:11:19 »
Definitely going to be watching out for this one! I like the colors on it a lot!

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« Reply #47 on: Tue, 20 October 2020, 03:35:45 »
Im 100% in. 80s art and music is my thing. Purple my favorite color. Im sold.


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« Reply #48 on: Tue, 20 October 2020, 04:04:25 »
Gonna keep my eye on this set. Love the colors. And I'm a sucker for the theme.

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« Reply #49 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 18:27:23 »
Hooooly moly! The best looking set ever!

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 20:31:03 »
I think you should make the Katakana sub-legend alpha's part of the basic set, it just goes too well with this theme.. Anyone else?

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 22:10:40 »
I think you should make the Katakana sub-legend alpha's part of the basic set, it just goes too well with this theme.. Anyone else?
Gonna have to pass on that one


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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 22 October 2020, 01:03:04 »
has a vendor ever done an ic then turned out to run the gb throught another vendor? this looks cool.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 22 October 2020, 14:29:32 »
I think you should make the Katakana sub-legend alpha's part of the basic set, it just goes too well with this theme.. Anyone else?

I support that completely.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 22 October 2020, 20:42:03 »
I think you should make the Katakana sub-legend alpha's part of the basic set, it just goes too well with this theme.. Anyone else?

I support that completely.
Id say just have it as an option, Ive seen GBs with 2 alpha options for the base. Id be one of the Katakana folks <3


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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 22 October 2020, 21:06:47 »
I think you should make the Katakana sub-legend alpha's part of the basic set, it just goes too well with this theme.. Anyone else?

I support that completely.
Id say just have it as an option, Ive seen GBs with 2 alpha options for the base. Id be one of the Katakana folks <3

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That works too, divide the modifiers and alphas up. It just sucks having to buy 2 sets of alphas, when i'm only going to use one.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 22 October 2020, 21:26:52 »
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Somebody on my Discord suggested doing a render with this set and Cerakotes Lollypop, Prison Pink and Corvette yellow. Turned out nice.

Turned out better than I could have imagined! Thanks for the renders!

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 23 October 2020, 08:45:41 »
Somebody on my Discord suggested doing a render with this set and Cerakotes Lollypop, Prison Pink and Corvette yellow. Turned out nice.

This keyset is so rad. Definitely going to be a grab for me.

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Looks cool, except those aren't the real legends. Had you thought about maybe getting in touch with the runner to ask for the render files? If you're gonna promote your keyboard on someone else's IC, it seems like good courtesy.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 23 October 2020, 14:10:56 »
Somebody on my Discord suggested doing a render with this set and Cerakotes Lollypop, Prison Pink and Corvette yellow. Turned out nice.

This keyset is so rad. Definitely going to be a grab for me.

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Looks cool, except those aren't the real legends. Had you thought about maybe getting in touch with the runner to ask for the render files? If you're gonna promote your keyboard on someone else's IC, it seems like good courtesy.

Not really trying to promote anything. Just quick and dirty renders for fun with what I had based on a Discord suggestion and thought I'd share.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 23 October 2020, 14:13:03 »
Somebody on my Discord suggested doing a render with this set and Cerakotes Lollypop, Prison Pink and Corvette yellow. Turned out nice.

This keyset is so rad. Definitely going to be a grab for me.

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Looks cool, except those aren't the real legends. Had you thought about maybe getting in touch with the runner to ask for the render files? If you're gonna promote your keyboard on someone else's IC, it seems like good courtesy.

Not really trying to promote anything. Just quick and dirty renders for fun with what I had based on a Discord suggestion and thought I'd share.

You shouldn't of paid that any attention, your "courtesy" was perfectly find.  It was rather obvious you were just messing around, and not trying to "promote" anything. I  didn't see you even  mention the name of your board or a link to it.
And you did an awesome job too.
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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 23 October 2020, 16:19:13 »
Whether this is fine is really up to the designer of this set, which is why the proper thing would have been to ask first. I wont speak for him, but I will say that if someone took one of my designs that I worked very hard to create, and stripped all the nuance out of the legends and presented it as-is, Id be pretty unhappy to have what amount to low-quality copies floating around that I now have to answer for and explain why they look different from my own renders and the final product. Conversely, if someone were to ask nicely for my keyset art and use them faithfully in their own renders, Id be thrilled to share them.

Playing around is fine, but if theyre not your toys, ask first.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 23 October 2020, 22:41:49 »
I wont speak for him,
... LOL!
"Whether this is fine is really up to the designer of this set" Is it? (Honest question, i think it probably is, or at least in this thread it is, but I like advocating for the devil.) If i want to make a render of this set on a cheese grater, and draw it out of crayons, who's going to stop me, how can they stop me, and MOST importantly, WHY should they be able to stop me? Pretty sure i can take ANY artist work, and modify it however i want, legally, and morally, becasue it leaves the original intact.
But really, that was so obviously an okay thing to do, it's silly to think he would have to/should ask. If anything, he's doing him a favor, and no one ask permission before giving a present.
It's absurd that you think you would "have to answer" for someone making poor quality renders of a set you designed, or that anyone would even ask you to. People go to threads like these for the renders, WHERE the creator has complete control over what he shows under his original post.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #62 on: Sat, 24 October 2020, 12:38:57 »
I wont speak for him,
Pretty sure i can take ANY artist work, and modify it however i want, legally, and morally, becasue it leaves the original intact.

Bruh

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #63 on: Sat, 24 October 2020, 12:44:45 »
I wont speak for him,
Pretty sure i can take ANY artist work, and modify it however i want, legally, and morally, becasue it leaves the original intact.

Bruh

If i make a copy of the Mona Lisa, how does that alter the original... bruh? (It doesn't, obviously.)

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 24 October 2020, 17:38:47 »
Yo! can we talk about the set please. Keep this crap on reddit lol.

How are the survey results going Stef?

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #65 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 06:51:42 »
Hey guys!
We are still working through all the data, and are almost ready for the first round of modifications. We've also been in talks with several vendors and hope to lock down the team very soon.


Things I am working on:

- Dropping numpad from base (It's clear from the data this is a good call. Plus, it will help us as we aim to hit a large MOQ to compound the slimmer kit for even better pricing)

- Fixing a couple of rendering errors (Numpad 00 for to name one)

- Fixing the 40s kit

- Going through Konstantin's notes in detail

- The next 2 deskmats (A not-insignificant amount of people aren't crazy on it as it stands. I hear you! This one is slated for the RGB offering, and I am busy penning the others for see how they are received)

- Experimenting with another accent kit. I know a lot of you said you'd like Cyan. I won't be replacing the yellow with it, but i'm not against the possibility of offering an accents kit if I think it works.

 :)

*EDIT* Deskmat protos have arrived. I have the RGB Version too which I haven't unboxed yet. Contrast looks great.
« Last Edit: Sun, 25 October 2020, 22:57:35 by SwitchKeys »

Offline Whiplash_XXIII

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 11:07:25 »
Hey guys!
We are still working through all the data, and are almost ready for the first round of modifications. We've also been in talks with several vendors and hope to lock down the team very soon.


Things I am working on:

- Dropping numpad from base (It's clear from the data this is a good call. Plus, it will help us as we aim to hit a large MOQ to compound the slimmer kit for even better pricing)

- Fixing a couple of rendering errors (Numpad 00 for to name one)

- Fixing the 40s kit

- Going through Konstantin's notes in detail

- The next 2 deskmats (A not-insignificant amount of people aren't crazy on it as it stands. I hear you! This one is slated for the RGB offering, and I am busy penning the others for see how they are received)

- Experimenting with another accent kit. I know a lot of you said you'd like Cyan. I won't be replacing the yellow with it, but i'm not against the possibility of offering an accents kit if I think it works.

 :)
Thank you for the update and a possible cyan kit


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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #67 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 12:57:56 »
Hell Yeah! I too thank you for the possible Cyan! I wonder if it would be possible to do a chrome accent, (or whether it might look tacky..) I guess you could collab with Rama or something  on some brushed aluminum enter, esc, arrows, and space bar keys, to achieve the look.
Like in the NewWaveRetro label:

Also please add pink (modifier color) space bars, and the option to have then entire f-row in the modifier pink color ( I don't understand why almost every set forces me to make the separate f clusters different colors..)
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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 16:08:58 »
I approve of all of these changes  :cool:

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 25 October 2020, 21:50:15 »
I cry for my fallen numpad, but happy to hear changes are in the works

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 02:19:34 »
I still think thematically you could try to differentiate the set a bit more from others that already exist within the retrowave genre.

We already have a set with a sun novelty, a cassette novelty, the deskmat looks very much like a very common wallpaper thats been floating around a few years now.

The colors are great, the addition of yellow is rad (a very underused color IMO  :thumb:) but I wish the theme were more creative so it would really set this set apart from other sets. You've mentioned the video game consoles being a big part of what you remember, and I'd totally look at going down that path as a theme. Quarters, tokens, tickets, the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

Not only is it good etiquette to try to provide working lanes for other sets that already exist, but I just think this is such a rich and relatively unexplored genre I'd like to see more unique aspects to it as a set, and think that would be fairly easy to do and make this a really good set at the same time.
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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 12:13:40 »
Add NORDE and count me in <3 Such a nice looking design. 

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 14:43:49 »
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!

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« Reply #73 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 15:18:50 »
I still think thematically you could try to differentiate the set a bit more from others that already exist within the retrowave genre.

We already have a set with a sun novelty, a cassette novelty, the deskmat looks very much like a very common wallpaper thats been floating around a few years now.

I don't care what has been made. I care about something I can actually get :D This kit looks just 100% perfect, and doesn't need any changes.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 16:19:55 »
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #75 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 16:41:15 »
Any chance of you adding another R4 1u Alt and two R4 1.5u Super keys for MX HHKB bottom row (1u Alt, 1.5u OS, 7u spacebar, 1.5u OS, 1u Alt)?

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 16:47:58 »
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

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Yes. :eek:
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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #77 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 17:26:58 »
I still think thematically you could try to differentiate the set a bit more from others that already exist within the retrowave genre.

We already have a set with a sun novelty, a cassette novelty, the deskmat looks very much like a very common wallpaper thats been floating around a few years now.

I don't care what has been made. I care about something I can actually get :D This kit looks just 100% perfect, and doesn't need any changes.
I second this. Some of us haven't been able to get some/any of the sets that guy mentions. Add more novelties if you wish, but please don't remove any.
It's silly how obsessed some people are with being "different" or unique. Sure, other set are similar, there are only so many colors out there (good ones at least), but this set does it BETTER.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #78 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 09:14:33 »
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
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Oh god please make this!   ;D

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 12:41:31 »
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
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I'm gonna need this. If this doesn't get made for this set, you need to run it. Fantastic.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #80 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 12:44:21 »
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
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Yes. :eek:

That's a big ol' yup from me.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #81 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 13:04:33 »
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
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I'm gonna need this. If this doesn't get made for this set, you need to run it. Fantastic.
Will definitely keep that in mind!


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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #82 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 13:43:53 »
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #83 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 11:33:12 »
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
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Yes. :eek:

That's a big ol' yup from me.

Def interested in getting this deskmat even I don't grab the set.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #84 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 14:59:09 »
I still think thematically you could try to differentiate the set a bit more from others that already exist within the retrowave genre.

We already have a set with a sun novelty, a cassette novelty, the deskmat looks very much like a very common wallpaper thats been floating around a few years now.

The colors are great, the addition of yellow is rad (a very underused color IMO  :thumb:) but I wish the theme were more creative so it would really set this set apart from other sets. You've mentioned the video game consoles being a big part of what you remember, and I'd totally look at going down that path as a theme. Quarters, tokens, tickets, the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

Not only is it good etiquette to try to provide working lanes for other sets that already exist, but I just think this is such a rich and relatively unexplored genre I'd like to see more unique aspects to it as a set, and think that would be fairly easy to do and make this a really good set at the same time.

While I think it is fair to ask to differentiate the set a little more, I believe that that colours are already different enough. I would not confuse this set with others like laser, vaporwave, or analog dreams, and I feel regardless of differentiation of theme or not, most would buy the set based on the choice/appeal of colours. As for the novelties, I think they are completely fine. They represent the set for what it is - a retrowave set. I do agree some video games novelties would be cool but it depends on what they are and I feel like maybe another set with different colours would suit the 80s arcade theme more, which I believe is already in the works and would once again 'conflict' with another set. Some of the current novelties are also simply too iconic to the genre to not reference or include.

I agree that we should have good etiquette in regards to provide working lanes for other sets but the flip side of that is that sets should not limit the number of creative takes on an genre, especially with one that has numerous very similar (yet different) sub-genres that tie in to a common theme - e.g sunset novelty. Is the big difference in colours compared to other sets not enough to provide a safe working lane for other sets? Is a there a set in specific you are referring to where there might be a conflict? Are the novelties an issue? Just trying to understand a little more.

Note: Not trying to be hostile :thumb:
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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 03:45:24 »

I agree that we should have good etiquette in regards to provide working lanes for other sets but the flip side of that is that sets should not limit the number of creative takes on an genre, especially with one that has numerous very similar (yet different) sub-genres that tie in to a common theme - e.g sunset novelty. Is the big difference in colours compared to other sets not enough to provide a safe working lane for other sets? Is a there a set in specific you are referring to where there might be a conflict? Are the novelties an issue? Just trying to understand a little more.

Note: Not trying to be hostile :thumb:

I think this is a perfect take on this. No one should be able to own iconography that has been around for decades. Well said.

If it was a straight rip, then sure, but it clearly isn't.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #86 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 13:13:56 »
I still think thematically you could try to differentiate the set a bit more from others that already exist within the retrowave genre.

We already have a set with a sun novelty, a cassette novelty, the deskmat looks very much like a very common wallpaper thats been floating around a few years now.

The colors are great, the addition of yellow is rad (a very underused color IMO  :thumb:) but I wish the theme were more creative so it would really set this set apart from other sets. You've mentioned the video game consoles being a big part of what you remember, and I'd totally look at going down that path as a theme. Quarters, tokens, tickets, the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

Not only is it good etiquette to try to provide working lanes for other sets that already exist, but I just think this is such a rich and relatively unexplored genre I'd like to see more unique aspects to it as a set, and think that would be fairly easy to do and make this a really good set at the same time.

While I think it is fair to ask to differentiate the set a little more, I believe that that colours are already different enough. I would not confuse this set with others like laser, vaporwave, or analog dreams, and I feel regardless of differentiation of theme or not, most would buy the set based on the choice/appeal of colours. As for the novelties, I think they are completely fine. They represent the set for what it is - a retrowave set. I do agree some video games novelties would be cool but it depends on what they are and I feel like maybe another set with different colours would suit the 80s arcade theme more, which I believe is already in the works and would once again 'conflict' with another set. Some of the current novelties are also simply too iconic to the genre to not reference or include.

I agree that we should have good etiquette in regards to provide working lanes for other sets but the flip side of that is that sets should not limit the number of creative takes on an genre, especially with one that has numerous very similar (yet different) sub-genres that tie in to a common theme - e.g sunset novelty. Is the big difference in colours compared to other sets not enough to provide a safe working lane for other sets? Is a there a set in specific you are referring to where there might be a conflict? Are the novelties an issue? Just trying to understand a little more.

Note: Not trying to be hostile :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #87 on: Sun, 01 November 2020, 11:39:14 »
This is very dope and true to the retrowave a e s t h e t i c... But one thing here is really bothering me. The setting sun legend and graphic.

Look at the caps:



The look the roughly the same. Stripes start at 50% of the height of the circle. But then you get the deskmat:



See the difference? Here, the stripes start at about 70-75% of the sphere's height. That's a bit tilting, but that's not all.

The other problem with these stripes is that they're uniform in thickness, which gives a completely different vibe. Instead of looking like the setting sun reflecting on the surface of the ocean, they look like the sun is being observed through horizontal blinds. Something like this:



Now, that in itself isn't that bad and certainly fits with the retrowave aesthetic, but I belive the way more iconic retrowave look is "the reflection", where the stripes gradually get thicker, like here:



This is because both vaporwave and retrowave/outrun are design aesthetics based on gradients. the horizontal lines are a way of approximating a gradient without using more than one color. Using them also creates this nifty transition of the circle slowly dissolving instead of just being obscured by bars.

To help illustrate what I mean here, I fired up the ol' Illustrator and made a quick mockup of how I believe the "classic" retrowave setting sun should look:



If OP doesn't want to change the symbol or can't (due to technical restrictions), then I would at least ask to make the design consistent between the caps and the deskmat. :)
« Last Edit: Sun, 01 November 2020, 11:41:18 by OmniSzron »
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Offline NathanAlphaMan

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #88 on: Sun, 01 November 2020, 12:32:53 »
This is very dope and true to the retrowave a e s t h e t i c... But one thing here is really bothering me. The setting sun legend and graphic.

Look at the caps:

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The look the roughly the same. Stripes start at 50% of the height of the circle. But then you get the deskmat:

Show Image


See the difference? Here, the stripes start at about 70-75% of the sphere's height. That's a bit tilting, but that's not all.

The other problem with these stripes is that they're uniform in thickness, which gives a completely different vibe. Instead of looking like the setting sun reflecting on the surface of the ocean, they look like the sun is being observed through horizontal blinds. Something like this:

Show Image


Now, that in itself isn't that bad and certainly fits with the retrowave aesthetic, but I belive the way more iconic retrowave look is "the reflection", where the stripes gradually get thicker, like here:

Show Image


This is because both vaporwave and retrowave/outrun are design aesthetics based on gradients. the horizontal lines are a way of approximating a gradient without using more than one color. Using them also creates this nifty transition of the circle slowly dissolving instead of just being obscured by bars.

To help illustrate what I mean here, I fired up the ol' Illustrator and made a quick mockup of how I believe the "classic" retrowave setting sun should look:

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If OP doesn't want to change the symbol or can't (due to technical restrictions), then I would at least ask to make the design consistent between the caps and the deskmat. :)

I told you Stef :p

I personally don't have strong feelings going one way or another, but I do agree with you that the gradient sun is nicer and more symbolic of the retrowave genre. Furthermore, it helps distance the cap from Laser's sun by a bit

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
« Reply #89 on: Sun, 01 November 2020, 22:36:24 »
This is very dope and true to the retrowave a e s t h e t i c... But one thing here is really bothering me. The setting sun legend and graphic.

Look at the caps:


And I thought i was OCD... I can almost guarantee you, you are the only one that noticed that...But now that you've pointed it out to me, I can honestly say, that I could not care less. Sorry.

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« Reply #90 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 09:16:32 »
I actually noticed it too and agree with the other guy :P


The colors look awesome though. It is really gonna pop.

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« Reply #91 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 13:09:25 »
I actually noticed it too and agree with the other guy :P


The colors look awesome though. It is really gonna pop.

Well, never mind then. I stand corrected.

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« Reply #92 on: Mon, 30 November 2020, 11:58:18 »
Yes, yes, yes. The answer is yes!

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« Reply #93 on: Mon, 30 November 2020, 12:37:47 »
LOVE the deskmat :-*

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« Reply #94 on: Mon, 30 November 2020, 16:02:07 »
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

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Oh my god. That would make for a brilliant deskmat.

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« Reply #95 on: Mon, 30 November 2020, 16:59:50 »
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
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Oh my god. That would make for a brilliant deskmat.
I do have an IC up for these


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« Reply #96 on: Tue, 01 December 2020, 16:02:22 »
I'm super keen on this set, and love that ISO-UK is represented in the base kit (making it a must buy!).  I'm keen on the katakana alphas, too, but at the moment there are no ISO-UK equivalents there.  Is there any chance of those being added?

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« Reply #97 on: Thu, 03 December 2020, 14:55:28 »
Love the idea, maybe a bit too loud for me but who knows.
But same as a few others, I am really not feeling the yellow. Hoping for some cyan or another color, but not yellow
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« Reply #98 on: Thu, 03 December 2020, 16:48:41 »
I would love to see some orange or teal incorporated in here. Or a volt/UV green instead of the yellow even.

I concur with this!  I would love to see some orange keys in there similar to the color at the bottom of the sun.  Or maybe orange legends on the caps.

Definitely going to pick this up! Sad I missed the GMK Lasers and these are right up the same alley.  Keep it up!

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« Reply #99 on: Fri, 04 December 2020, 20:18:51 »
Hey guys! Just chiming in to say I am reading through each and every comment here and in the IC form.
I am busy presenting some alternate forms to existing kits and will update soon when they are finalised.

Thanks everyone who's taken the time to offer feedback. I am hoping to wrap up all the kits this month so we can push on.

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« Reply #100 on: Fri, 04 December 2020, 21:24:23 »
I would love to see some orange or teal incorporated in here. Or a volt/UV green instead of the yellow even.

I concur with this!  I would love to see some orange keys in there similar to the color at the bottom of the sun.  Or maybe orange legends on the caps.

Definitely going to pick this up! Sad I missed the GMK Lasers and these are right up the same alley.  Keep it up!

There's some gmk lasers on ebay right now, and the R2 should be shipping out in the next month or so, and there will be more for sale then. I will probably sell mine (managed to score the SA version off the bay, and i prefer that profile to gmk, just wish i could trade my gmk novelties for the SA ones..)

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« Reply #101 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 08:53:53 »
very sexy and wild colorway keycap set :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

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« Reply #102 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 17:12:29 »
This is a bright looking set, kinda interested.

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« Reply #103 on: Mon, 07 December 2020, 14:48:55 »
Katakana kit is to die for...I love this set

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« Reply #104 on: Mon, 07 December 2020, 16:40:53 »
Really amazing! NorDE is all that is missing  ;D

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« Reply #105 on: Mon, 07 December 2020, 18:23:06 »
Do we have any idea when in 2021 this will launch?  Just trying to budget around other GBs.  Even if you could say "Not January or February" that would be helpful!  Looking forward to putting this on the sunsetter.

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« Reply #106 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 10:21:37 »
love it, will follow the project

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
« Reply #107 on: Fri, 11 December 2020, 05:36:02 »
This is super sick!


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« Reply #108 on: Fri, 11 December 2020, 11:38:41 »
If there was ever a kit to buy extras of for re-selling on ebay, or the market, it would be this one. People are going to be clamoring for this thing after the GB is over, all the time. There's going to be a lot of people just getting into the hobby, asking "where can i get this!?," "Will there be a R2," " I can't believe i missed this" "I just had to get in to this hobby a month after this is released!", etc etc.

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« Reply #109 on: Sat, 12 December 2020, 22:05:41 »
I forgot something.

Please have the option to choose a base kit with the alphas or a base kit with the katakanas.

I really don't think separate "alphas" work for GMK due to price. I really feel a vast majority of people would only use 1 of the two.
At least I would only buy this set with a base kit that includes the katakanas.

If I am forced to buy a base kit with alphas and get the katakanas separately, that will be way over 200$ and it would also mean that I would leave like 90% of the base set keys in the box which feels like such a waste.
If you also go for the novelties, and want katakanas and use a 65% or under you'd probably be using under 10 keys from the base kit.

Same thing happened recently with Hanami Dango set. I loved it, but wanted the Hiraganas and not Alphas, but they were sold separately and I can't justify spending over 200$ for it and also leave 90+% of the base kit unused.
Had there been the option to buy a base hiraganas kit I would have joined the GB day one.
« Last Edit: Sat, 12 December 2020, 22:25:51 by CookieFlow »
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« Reply #110 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 11:03:53 »
I forgot something.

Please have the option to choose a base kit with the alphas or a base kit with the katakanas.

I really don't think separate "alphas" work for GMK due to price. I really feel a vast majority of people would only use 1 of the two.
At least I would only buy this set with a base kit that includes the katakanas.

If I am forced to buy a base kit with alphas and get the katakanas separately, that will be way over 200$ and it would also mean that I would leave like 90% of the base set keys in the box which feels like such a waste.
If you also go for the novelties, and want katakanas and use a 65% or under you'd probably be using under 10 keys from the base kit.

Same thing happened recently with Hanami Dango set. I loved it, but wanted the Hiraganas and not Alphas, but they were sold separately and I can't justify spending over 200$ for it and also leave 90+% of the base kit unused.
Had there been the option to buy a base hiraganas kit I would have joined the GB day one.

I, for some reason, thought this had all ready been brought up, but he's exactly right. Please make either the modifiers and alphas separate kits, or have two base kits. It sucks being forced to buy the regular alphas when i'm not going to be using them.

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« Reply #111 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 15:25:40 »
Giving all the above some thought presently. One thing I'm not really keen on is offering two base kits because the goal will be a high MOQ on base. Having two of them cannibalises this goal (Unless your biip haha). Once we get through the business of the Christmas period it'll be easier to sit down and nut it out.

In any case, we've got vendors secured in most zones and are currently in talks for NA. With a bit of luck we can get this running in Q1 but will keep this updated as I get some more news.

For those who were wanting the Rev. 1 deskmat, I've commissioned a new artist who is busy working on a new design. The "Sunset" mat will not feature in a GB along this project, but will be available as an in-stock deskmat drop in early new year with Vendors in NA, Europe and Australia.

Stef


Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
« Reply #112 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 17:41:12 »
God I love this set so much. Please take my money

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« Reply #113 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 17:44:05 »
This is my first post of many. Im in.

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« Reply #114 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 18:29:00 »
Giving all the above some thought presently. One thing I'm not really keen on is offering two base kits because the goal will be a high MOQ on base. Having two of them cannibalises this goal (Unless your biip haha). Once we get through the business of the Christmas period it'll be easier to sit down and nut it out.

In any case, we've got vendors secured in most zones and are currently in talks for NA. With a bit of luck we can get this running in Q1 but will keep this updated as I get some more news.

For those who were wanting the Rev. 1 deskmat, I've commissioned a new artist who is busy working on a new design. The "Sunset" mat will not feature in a GB along this project, but will be available as an in-stock deskmat drop in early new year with Vendors in NA, Europe and Australia.

Stef

I am not a designer so I have no clue why a high MOQ is important, but I think these days all sets reach MOQ easily.
I also think due to the nature of the set that works very well with Japanese sub legends, that the split would be fairly close to 50/50 on who would prefer standard Alphas or Katakanas.

I really hope this can be reconsidered, or if there is only 1 base kit, to have the modifiers available as a separate kit for people wanting the Katakanas.

Looking at Hanami Dango the Hiragana alpha is 85$, and being forced into a 135$ base kit only to use a dozen of keys feels so bad.



And of course a small kit with some Cyan would be <3
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Offline Havattack

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« Reply #115 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 19:59:18 »
Giving all the above some thought presently. One thing I'm not really keen on is offering two base kits because the goal will be a high MOQ on base. Having two of them cannibalises this goal (Unless your biip haha). Once we get through the business of the Christmas period it'll be easier to sit down and nut it out.

In any case, we've got vendors secured in most zones and are currently in talks for NA. With a bit of luck we can get this running in Q1 but will keep this updated as I get some more news.

For those who were wanting the Rev. 1 deskmat, I've commissioned a new artist who is busy working on a new design. The "Sunset" mat will not feature in a GB along this project, but will be available as an in-stock deskmat drop in early new year with Vendors in NA, Europe and Australia.

Stef
I don't think you're going to have ANY problem getting high MOQ  on this set.... I bet you'll be getting tons of request for rounds 2, etc, for years after.

Is there any reason GMK sets don't ever separate the mods and alphas into separate sets, so we could have 1 mod set, and then the 2 separate alpha sets?

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« Reply #116 on: Tue, 15 December 2020, 11:37:56 »
Giving all the above some thought presently. One thing I'm not really keen on is offering two base kits because the goal will be a high MOQ on base. Having two of them cannibalises this goal (Unless your biip haha). Once we get through the business of the Christmas period it'll be easier to sit down and nut it out.

In any case, we've got vendors secured in most zones and are currently in talks for NA. With a bit of luck we can get this running in Q1 but will keep this updated as I get some more news.

For those who were wanting the Rev. 1 deskmat, I've commissioned a new artist who is busy working on a new design. The "Sunset" mat will not feature in a GB along this project, but will be available as an in-stock deskmat drop in early new year with Vendors in NA, Europe and Australia.

Stef

I am not a designer so I have no clue why a high MOQ is important, but I think these days all sets reach MOQ easily.
I also think due to the nature of the set that works very well with Japanese sub legends, that the split would be fairly close to 50/50 on who would prefer standard Alphas or Katakanas.

I really hope this can be reconsidered, or if there is only 1 base kit, to have the modifiers available as a separate kit for people wanting the Katakanas.

Looking at Hanami Dango the Hiragana alpha is 85$, and being forced into a 135$ base kit only to use a dozen of keys feels so bad.



And of course a small kit with some Cyan would be <3
Higher MOQ means cheaper price, that way more people can afford it. 2 base kits will make it harder for runner to reach his goal. About the demand for this set during gb, it totally depends on the running period. Imagine you run a gb during last november when there are too many good sets, some of classic sets like yuri or grisanne were competed so hard because people made a choice to buy another good set.
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« Reply #117 on: Tue, 15 December 2020, 16:29:59 »

So why can't the modifiers and alphas be split into separate sets?

And if there is only one complete base kit, and an extra separate alpha kit, should there not be a poll or something on which of the alphas should be included in the base, and which should be separated out?
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« Reply #118 on: Tue, 15 December 2020, 16:47:33 »

So why can't the modifiers and alphas be split into separate sets?

And if there is only one complete base kit, and an extra separate alpha kit, should there not be a poll or something on which of the alphas should be included in the base, and which should be separated out?
A normal kit (mods + alphas together) costs less than separated mods + separated alphas, based on GMK pricing. But it's like that for every manufactured stuff. Reason behind this is that the manufacturer (in this case GMK) has to set up environment and infrastructure to produce keycaps, when you order everything in one place, GMK just needs to set up everything at once, this also aplies to quality-control and packaging. When 1 a base kit is splitted in 2, GMK needs to redo some of the steps twice hence the price will be more expensive. A big box with 2 cookies is normally cheaper than 2 small box each contains 1 cookie. This is how I understand it. I may be not correct tho. Hence you always see one base kit with mods and alphas since it's the best way both for buyers (more affordable prices) and also for vendors (fewer kits fewer MOQ goals).
Runner obviously prefers a cleaner look with mono latin alpha in base kit. I don't oppose with the kitting, I also prefer mono latin alphas  :p
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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
« Reply #119 on: Tue, 15 December 2020, 19:01:58 »

So why can't the modifiers and alphas be split into separate sets?

And if there is only one complete base kit, and an extra separate alpha kit, should there not be a poll or something on which of the alphas should be included in the base, and which should be separated out?
A normal kit (mods + alphas together) costs less than separated mods + separated alphas, based on GMK pricing. But it's like that for every manufactured stuff. Reason behind this is that the manufacturer (in this case GMK) has to set up environment and infrastructure to produce keycaps, when you order everything in one place, GMK just needs to set up everything at once, this also aplies to quality-control and packaging. When 1 a base kit is splitted in 2, GMK needs to redo some of the steps twice hence the price will be more expensive. A big box with 2 cookies is normally cheaper than 2 small box each contains 1 cookie. This is how I understand it. I may be not correct tho. Hence you always see one base kit with mods and alphas since it's the best way both for buyers (more affordable prices) and also for vendors (fewer kits fewer MOQ goals).
Runner obviously prefers a cleaner look with mono latin alpha in base kit. I don't oppose with the kitting, I also prefer mono latin alphas  :p
I see, that makes since.
So, either separate both alphas from the mods, and only slightly screw over both parties (the ones that want the reg alphas AND the ones that want subs), or include one of the alphas with mods, and screw over only which ever party gets left out, substantially...
I think there should be a poll on which alphas to include with the base (unless SK has a preference, then i guess it's up to him)

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« Reply #120 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 09:52:55 »
Purple, pinks, blues, always the best combo for keycaps. Love it!

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« Reply #121 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 10:14:07 »

So why can't the modifiers and alphas be split into separate sets?

And if there is only one complete base kit, and an extra separate alpha kit, should there not be a poll or something on which of the alphas should be included in the base, and which should be separated out?
A normal kit (mods + alphas together) costs less than separated mods + separated alphas, based on GMK pricing. But it's like that for every manufactured stuff. Reason behind this is that the manufacturer (in this case GMK) has to set up environment and infrastructure to produce keycaps, when you order everything in one place, GMK just needs to set up everything at once, this also aplies to quality-control and packaging. When 1 a base kit is splitted in 2, GMK needs to redo some of the steps twice hence the price will be more expensive. A big box with 2 cookies is normally cheaper than 2 small box each contains 1 cookie. This is how I understand it. I may be not correct tho. Hence you always see one base kit with mods and alphas since it's the best way both for buyers (more affordable prices) and also for vendors (fewer kits fewer MOQ goals).
Runner obviously prefers a cleaner look with mono latin alpha in base kit. I don't oppose with the kitting, I also prefer mono latin alphas  :p
I see, that makes since.
So, either separate both alphas from the mods, and only slightly screw over both parties (the ones that want the reg alphas AND the ones that want subs), or include one of the alphas with mods, and screw over only which ever party gets left out, substantially...
I think there should be a poll on which alphas to include with the base (unless SK has a preference, then i guess it's up to him)
What you're mentioning is actually happening in GMK Norse IC. Runner made a poll to decide which set of alphas should be included in base. The poll turns out right now 57 - 42. It's gonna a ****tiest decision making ever.

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« Reply #122 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 13:27:59 »
I didn't even know that was an option.

But indeed a base kit without alphas and then having the choice between regular alphas or katakanas sublegends is probably a good middle ground.
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« Reply #123 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 22:31:29 »
But indeed a base kit without alphas and then having the choice between regular alphas or katakanas sublegends is probably a good middle ground.

That would just make it more expensive for *everyone*.

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« Reply #124 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 02:52:24 »
I didn't even know that was an option.

But indeed a base kit without alphas and then having the choice between regular alphas or katakanas sublegends is probably a good middle ground.
That middle ground is not a good idea, the set will probably flop because the price for a base kit surely becomes too high.

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« Reply #125 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 03:07:02 »
So this is a gmk version of matrix keycaps pbt retrowave . so much for originality

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« Reply #126 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 03:35:09 »
So this is a gmk version of matrix keycaps pbt retrowave . so much for originality

I think you're mistaken this set is GMK Olivia recoloured.

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« Reply #127 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 11:27:01 »
But indeed a base kit without alphas and then having the choice between regular alphas or katakanas sublegends is probably a good middle ground.

That would just make it more expensive for *everyone*.
Yes. This was all ready covered. Doing it that way would make it slightly more expensive for "everyone", instead of doing it the other way, and making it A LOT more expensive for whatever party's alphas get left off the base set.
I'm good with whatever way it ends up. I want the sub-legend alphas, so obviously that's what i would prefer to be included in the base kit, but if I'm in the minority, especially a small minority, then we should do it another way.
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« Reply #128 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 11:36:40 »
So this is a gmk version of matrix keycaps pbt retrowave . so much for originality
"Originality".... is beyond overrated, there is no idea that it truly "original". Whining about being unique is for angst teens. Adults realize we stand on the shoulders of giants, it's silly not to build off what others have done.
That being said, "retrowave" is a very popular trend right now, it's no surprise that more then one company/person has been inspired by it. If you can't see just how different those two sets are, I don't know what to tell ya buddy. Ones backlit, ones not. The modifier and alpha colors are reversed, there is accent colors, etc.
 Retrowave, Neon cities, Laser, 80's after dark, vaporwave, are all inspired by similar things, yet are different enough to warrant interest in each. 
Just seems like an absurd comment my man.

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« Reply #129 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 00:41:11 »
But indeed a base kit without alphas and then having the choice between regular alphas or katakanas sublegends is probably a good middle ground.

That would just make it more expensive for *everyone*.
Yes. This was all ready covered. Doing it that way would make it slightly more expensive for "everyone", instead of doing it the other way, and making it A LOT more expensive for whatever party's alphas get left off the base set.
I'm good with whatever way it ends up. I want the sub-legend alphas, so obviously that's what i would prefer to be included in the base kit, but if I'm in the minority, especially a small minority, then we should do it another way.


Not "slightly" more expensive, the way GMK kitting works. Probably $50 more expensive.

Just let the GB runners pick which way works best for their set, and everyone can adapt.

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« Reply #130 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 11:53:47 »
I suppose "slightly" was a poor word choice.

"Just let the GB runners pick which way works best for their set, and everyone can adapt." Well yeah, and that too was all ready mentioned..
We're just giving our 2 cents, which is in general the point of these threads, (other then to advertise and get the word out.) He/she/they are of coarse free to do with it what they wish.
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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
« Reply #131 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 12:09:33 »
I suppose "slightly" was a poor word choice.

"Just let the GB runners pick which way works best for their set, and everyone can adapt." Well yeah, and that to was all ready mentioned..
We're just giving our 2 cents, which is in general the point of these threads, (other then to advertise and get the word out.) He/she/they are of coarse free to do with it what they wish.

My 2: Your idea is not realistically feasible with how GMK's pricing structure works. Buyers would probably be looking at around $150 for 60%/65% coverage, around $170 for 75% and TKL, and up to $190$200 to match coverage offered by standard GMK base kits. You can see this for yourself if you look at sets that offered separate alphas and mods as child kits (e.g. GMK Future Funk).

Edit: updated calculation
Edit2: i am bad at math
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« Reply #132 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 13:08:58 »
Then the question is how much would a base kit cost if you have a higher MOQ and only 1 kit, versus having 2 kits and a lower MOQ.

I never saw the price of any sets get lower even after tripling or more the MOQ, so I assume the price is based on the estimated MOQ?
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« Reply #133 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 17:16:10 »
I suppose "slightly" was a poor word choice.

"Just let the GB runners pick which way works best for their set, and everyone can adapt." Well yeah, and that to was all ready mentioned..
We're just giving our 2 cents, which is in general the point of these threads, (other then to advertise and get the word out.) He/she/they are of coarse free to do with it what they wish.

My 2: Your idea is not realistically feasible with how GMK's pricing structure works. Buyers would probably be looking at around $150 for 60%/65% coverage, around $170 for 75% and TKL, and up to $190–$200 to match coverage offered by standard GMK base kits. You can see this for yourself if you look at sets that offered separate alphas and mods as child kits (e.g. GMK Future Funk).

Edit: updated calculation
Edit2: i am bad at math
Yeah, i think we've come to the conclusion (as if it is up to any of us...) that splitting both alphas from the modifiers isn't optimal, and that it would probably be better to have a poll to decide which of the alphas goes with the base.
 But again, the Gb runner can do whatever they wish, obviously. (and i'll be happy, this set is dope.)

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
« Reply #134 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 20:46:01 »
Yeah, i think we've come to the conclusion (as if it is up to any of us...) that splitting both alphas from the modifiers isn't optimal, and that it would probably be better to have a poll to decide which of the alphas goes with the base.
 But again, the Gb runner can do whatever they wish, obviously. (and i'll be happy, this set is dope.)

I've seen you comment on this thread so much, and you also have the matching sig and avatar, that I've subconsciously started thinking that you're the runner :D

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
« Reply #135 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 20:51:32 »
Buyers would probably be looking at around $150 for 60%/65% coverage, around $170 for 75% and TKL, and up to $190$200 to match coverage offered by standard GMK base kits. You can see this for yourself if you look at sets that offered separate alphas and mods as child kits (e.g. GMK Future Funk).

Thanks for a concrete example here; looking at CandyKeys I can see the base kit (with numpad and even some media keys) comes in at 135 whereas the separate icons + alphas comes to 152 with no numpad or 165 with numpad.  Also, that is a NICE kit.  Shame it doesn't have ISO-UK support.  ;)

I'm happy for whatever alphas the designer likes in the basekit and then extra alphas as already proposed.

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« Reply #136 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 20:57:17 »
Thanks for a concrete example here; looking at CandyKeys I can see the base kit (with numpad and even some media keys) comes in at 135 whereas the separate icons + alphas comes to 152 with no numpad or 165 with numpad.  Also, that is a NICE kit.  Shame it doesn't have ISO-UK support.  ;)

It's also worth noting here that the icons kit only has sufficient coverage for 60%/65% in both cases :) For more complete coverage it would be even higher.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
« Reply #137 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 22:16:53 »
Looks too much like Handarbeit

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
« Reply #138 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 22:45:26 »
Yeah, i think we've come to the conclusion (as if it is up to any of us...) that splitting both alphas from the modifiers isn't optimal, and that it would probably be better to have a poll to decide which of the alphas goes with the base.
 But again, the Gb runner can do whatever they wish, obviously. (and i'll be happy, this set is dope.)

I've seen you comment on this thread so much, and you also have the matching sig and avatar, that I've subconsciously started thinking that you're the runner :D

I know, I know, i should really leave this thread alone for awhile... Working from home leaves me with way too much time to procrastinate on message boards..

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
« Reply #139 on: Thu, 24 December 2020, 11:16:17 »
Buyers would probably be looking at around $150 for 60%/65% coverage, around $170 for 75% and TKL, and up to $190$200 to match coverage offered by standard GMK base kits. You can see this for yourself if you look at sets that offered separate alphas and mods as child kits (e.g. GMK Future Funk).

Thanks for a concrete example here; looking at CandyKeys I can see the base kit (with numpad and even some media keys) comes in at 135 whereas the separate icons + alphas comes to 152 with no numpad or 165 with numpad.  Also, that is a NICE kit.  Shame it doesn't have ISO-UK support.  ;)

I'm happy for whatever alphas the designer likes in the basekit and then extra alphas as already proposed.

+1 for ISO-UK support.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
« Reply #140 on: Thu, 24 December 2020, 22:29:57 »
Couple of prototype caps from Sinpra. The right cap is in my opinion a great match to my Pantone samples! What do you guys think?



In other news, have added some Vendors to OP and will have a new deskmat to show soon!  We are just making some initial revisions.

*EDIT* Also have my preferred Pantones above. The pink chip I should have on hand in the next couple of weeks when it his my forwarding address. I've ordered doubles of everything, as one will be sent to GMK.

« Last Edit: Thu, 24 December 2020, 22:33:17 by SwitchKeys »

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
« Reply #141 on: Thu, 31 December 2020, 11:56:58 »
Have you ever thought of just not including the numpad on the base kit? I mean to make the base kit cheaper and tbh it's not just me who has crap ton of numpad not being used and being stuck on their box/plastic etc.

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« Reply #142 on: Thu, 31 December 2020, 13:29:21 »
Have you ever thought of just not including the numpad on the base kit? I mean to make the base kit cheaper and tbh it's not just me who has crap ton of numpad not being used and being stuck on their box/plastic etc.

Makes an excellent point.. I don't think many people have full size keyboards anymore. It's mostly  60, tkl, and 75 is getting very popular. I can't see myself ever purchasing a full size one again.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
« Reply #143 on: Thu, 31 December 2020, 21:08:20 »
Have you ever thought of just not including the numpad on the base kit? I mean to make the base kit cheaper and tbh it's not just me who has crap ton of numpad not being used and being stuck on their box/plastic etc.

Makes an excellent point.. I don't think many people have full size keyboards anymore. It's mostly  60, tkl, and 75 is getting very popular. I can't see myself ever purchasing a full size one again.
It would reduce the price by 10usd tho.

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« Reply #144 on: Thu, 31 December 2020, 21:46:31 »
Have you ever thought of just not including the numpad on the base kit? I mean to make the base kit cheaper and tbh it's not just me who has crap ton of numpad not being used and being stuck on their box/plastic etc.

Makes an excellent point.. I don't think many people have full size keyboards anymore. It's mostly  60, tkl, and 75 is getting very popular. I can't see myself ever purchasing a full size one again.
It would reduce the price by 10usd tho.
Not sure what your point is? Yes, it would reduce the price, that's why we are in favor of it.. (and becasue i have no use for a numpad)

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
« Reply #145 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 16:42:23 »
GMK Peeps.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
« Reply #146 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 23:49:53 »
Maybe it's the lighting, but the eyes on that right cap seems to be a little bit green-tinted to me.

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« Reply #147 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 00:15:23 »
GMK Peeps.

The awful Easter candy?! WHERE?!

Purple peeps are more pastel.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
« Reply #148 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 14:49:40 »
is it possible to add a 1.5u enter, and a 1.75u backspace to the compact kit. Really looking forward to this set!

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« Reply #149 on: Sun, 10 January 2021, 16:28:45 »
Maybe it's the lighting, but the eyes on that right cap seems to be a little bit green-tinted to me.

You aren't entirely wrong, the yellow in the eyes is a bit of a pain to get 100% but thankfully I still have some time before this set runs to iron out the kinks!

(Also for clarification the blue and red one wasn't meant for this set, just an added bonus in the parcel!)

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
« Reply #150 on: Mon, 11 January 2021, 14:32:54 »
Miami Vice kit :-)

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
« Reply #151 on: Mon, 11 January 2021, 22:05:04 »
Hi all,
Excited to share my latest designs for our new deskmat for discussion.

I would like your feedback, which of these two would you choose!






Also, would you like to see edge to edge printing or black border?

(Please ignore the low resolution on these, they are just working drafts as I finalise everything)

« Last Edit: Mon, 11 January 2021, 22:06:41 by SwitchKeys »

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
« Reply #152 on: Mon, 11 January 2021, 22:20:19 »
Between the two, I prefer the top one.

I appreciate this new take on the mat, but personally I would prefer the design without the car.
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« Reply #153 on: Tue, 12 January 2021, 01:02:09 »
I can barely tell he difference honestly, but my eyes are tired right now. Bottom.


I agree, I'd prefer one without the car.


I would want an "outrun" style desk mat that is just a 2 tone of the purple and pink used in the set.
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« Reply #154 on: Tue, 12 January 2021, 13:08:14 »
I prefer the top.

But I definitely agree, there should be a more minimalistic deskmat without the car. This is too busy for me on my desk, but I'm sure there are people who love it.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats! All Vendors announced.
« Reply #155 on: Tue, 12 January 2021, 23:28:19 »
Yep the plan is to keep one loud deskmat and one more minimalistic deskmat which we are working on right now (Likely the purple mat with a silhouette repeating pattern, possibly the palm trees or the flamingos).

I'm hesitant to remove the car as it is literally the focal point of the entire deskmat. Removing it just puts us back at the original design (If you are really into the sunset deskmat you'll be able to buy it shortly from Space Cables, SwitchKeys, KeyGem, Ashkeebs and ProtoTypist)

Thanks for the continued interest guys. We're also pleased to confirm Project Keyboard who will be running this for North America.

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
« Reply #156 on: Tue, 12 January 2021, 23:34:49 »
Really dig the car desk mat! I'm honestly torn between the two with a slight change in colors. If I had to pick one I think I would go with the top, something about the orange in the sun just makes it a tad better. I'm going to vote for the edge to edge printing

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« Reply #157 on: Wed, 13 January 2021, 11:44:41 »
Miami Vice kit :-)

I think of pink and blue/teal more when it comes to Miami Vice,
« Last Edit: Wed, 13 January 2021, 17:45:28 by Havattack »

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« Reply #158 on: Wed, 13 January 2021, 12:42:05 »
Yep the plan is to keep one loud deskmat and one more minimalistic deskmat which we are working on right now (Likely the purple mat with a silhouette repeating pattern, possibly the palm trees or the flamingos).

I'm hesitant to remove the car as it is literally the focal point of the entire deskmat. Removing it just puts us back at the original design (If you are really into the sunset deskmat you'll be able to buy it shortly from Space Cables, SwitchKeys, KeyGem, Ashkeebs and ProtoTypist)

Thanks for the continued interest guys. We're also pleased to confirm Project Keyboard who will be running this for North America.

I fully understand.
I would still think that without the car it would be different enough from your "classic", I don't often see the palm trees inside the sun which I find awesome.
It's just that the keyboard would sit mostly on top of the car, so in my head that woudn't look that good, since you would only see some random parts of the car like the wheels or spoiler.

But if there is a more minimalistic one, that's awesome. I really like the sun with the palm trees on the right, feels like a perfect place to have your mouse.
And I agree, the slight orange tone of the top one is really nice.
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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
« Reply #159 on: Wed, 13 January 2021, 15:45:22 »
Thanks for your comments CookieFlow!

Nathan actually mocked up a render of a (Now outdated design) with the keyboard on it for scale.



I will be back here soon with some kitting updates and hopefully another deskmat addition :)

Cheers

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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
« Reply #160 on: Wed, 13 January 2021, 19:14:56 »
That looks a lot better than I imagined in my head ! Probably better suited for a small keyboard so it doesn't get mostly covered.
I like the "retrowave" in Katakana on the plate, that's a cool idea that hopefully would make it into the final design

Looking forward to see the more minimalistic one, but I will say the more I look at the car design the more I like it.
« Last Edit: Wed, 13 January 2021, 19:21:44 by CookieFlow »
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Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
« Reply #161 on: Sat, 16 January 2021, 11:59:30 »
Might have to buy this set just for the F-40... Seriously though, great work on the mats!