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KAT Napoleonic
Inspired by early 19th century history.
Optimized for affordable language compatibility.


Home Page: https://katnapoleonic.com/kat-napoleonic/

Group Buy Preorders Open Until December 9th
Prices
Check out the prices on Wordpress or in the tables below.

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Full Table of All Prices
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                                       | zFrontier | MKUltra  | myKeyboard | Ashkeebs |HEX Keyboards|Fancy Customs|
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ALPHAS                                 |       USD |      USD |        EUR |      CAD |         SGD |         CLP |
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Default US English - Jefferson         |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |     $ 44.00 |    $ 27.290 |

Belgian & Apple French - Marie Louise  |   $ 38.00 |  $ 36.00 |    € 40,00 |  $ 48.00 |             |             |
BÉPO - Bépoleon Nonaparte              |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |             |             |
Canadian French - Chateauguay          |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |             |             |
Cherokee - Sequoyah                    |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |     $ 44.00 |             |
Colemak - Jonathan Strange             |   $ 42.00 |  $ 40.00 |    € 44,00 |  $ 54.00 |     $ 58.00 |             |

Dvorak - Mr Norrell                    |   $ 38.00 |  $ 36.00 |    € 40,00 |  $ 48.00 |     $ 51.00 |             |
EurKEY - Blücher                       |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |             |             |
French for Windows - Joséphine         |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |             |             |
German - Metternich                    |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |             |    $ 27.290 |
Hungarian & South Slavic - Doppelkaiser|   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |             |             |

Japanese - Nagasaki                    |   $ 42.00 |  $ 40.00 |    € 44,00 |  $ 54.00 |     $ 58.00 |    $ 33.690 |
Nordic - Bernadotte                    |   $ 38.00 |  $ 36.00 |    € 40,00 |  $ 48.00 |             |             |
Polish & Lithuanian - Uhlan            |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |             |    $ 27.290 |
Russian - Alexander                    |   $ 38.00 |  $ 36.00 |    € 40,00 |  $ 48.00 |     $ 51.00 |    $ 30.490 |
South Slavic Cyrillic - Karađorđe      |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |             |             |

Spanish - Agustina                     |   $ 38.00 |  $ 36.00 |    € 40,00 |  $ 48.00 |             |    $ 30.490 |
Swiss - Act of Mediation               |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |             |             |
Tamil - Pondicherry                    |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |     $ 44.00 |    $ 27.290 |
UK English & Irish - Wellington        |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |     $ 44.00 |             |
US Int'l & Netherlands - Waterloo      |   $ 34.00 |  $ 32.00 |    € 36,00 |  $ 42.00 |             |    $ 27.290 |
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CORE MODS
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TKL Mods - French Indigo               |   $ 72.00 |  $ 67.00 |    € 73,00 |  $ 90.00 |     $ 98.00 |    $ 57.690 |
TKL Mods - Russian Green               |   $ 72.00 |  $ 67.00 |    € 73,00 |  $ 90.00 |     $ 98.00 |    $ 57.690 |
TKL Mods - Austrian White              |   $ 72.00 |  $ 67.00 |    € 73,00 |  $ 90.00 |     $ 98.00 |    $ 57.690 |
TKL Alt Mods - British Navy            |   $ 52.00 |  $ 48.00 |    € 54,00 |  $ 65.00 |     $ 70.00 |    $ 41.690 |

Numpad - French Indigo                 |   $ 23.00 |  $ 22.00 |    € 25,00 |  $ 28.00 |     $ 30.00 |    $ 18.490 |
Numpad - Russian Green                 |   $ 23.00 |  $ 22.00 |    € 25,00 |  $ 28.00 |     $ 30.00 |    $ 18.490 |
Numpad - Austrian White                |   $ 23.00 |  $ 22.00 |    € 25,00 |  $ 28.00 |     $ 30.00 |    $ 18.490 |

Ortho Mods - French Indigo             |   $ 42.00 |  $ 39.00 |    € 44,00 |  $ 52.00 |     $ 58.00 |    $ 33.690 |
Ortho Mods - Russian Green             |   $ 42.00 |  $ 39.00 |    € 44,00 |  $ 52.00 |     $ 58.00 |    $ 33.690 |
Ortho Mods - Austrian White            |   $ 42.00 |  $ 39.00 |    € 44,00 |  $ 52.00 |     $ 58.00 |    $ 33.690 |

Forties Mods - French Indigo           |   $ 51.00 |  $ 47.00 |    € 52,00 |  $ 64.00 |     $ 70.00 |    $ 40.790 |
Forties Mods - Russian Green           |   $ 51.00 |  $ 47.00 |    € 52,00 |  $ 64.00 |     $ 70.00 |    $ 40.790 |

Ergo Mods - French Indigo              |   $ 58.00 |  $ 55.00 |    € 59,00 |  $ 74.00 |     $ 80.00 |    $ 46.390 |
Ergo Mods - Russian Green              |   $ 58.00 |  $ 55.00 |    € 59,00 |  $ 74.00 |     $ 80.00 |    $ 46.390 |
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MISC
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Spacebars                              |   $ 30.00 |  $ 28.00 |    € 32,00 |  $ 37.00 |     $ 40.00 |    $ 24.090 |
Novelties                              |   $ 38.00 |  $ 35.00 |    € 39,00 |  $ 47.00 |     $ 51.00 |    $ 30.490 |
Mac Kit                                |   $ 21.00 |  $ 20.00 |    € 23,00 |  $ 26.00 |     $ 28.00 |    $ 16.890 |
Blank Ergo Ortho Kit                   |   $ 56.00 |  $ 52.00 |    € 57,00 |  $ 70.00 |             |             |

Madness Kit                            |   $ 47.00 |  $ 44.00 |    € 49,00 |  $ 60.00 |             |             |
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PERIPHERALS
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Minard Deskmat (900x400x4m)            |   $ 20.00 |  $ 19.00 |    € 19,00 |  $ 27.00 |     $ 28.00 |    $ 15.990 |
Tolstoy Deskmat (700x300x4m)           |   $ 18.00 |  $ 17.50 |    € 17,00 |  $ 24.50 |     $ 25.50 |    $ 14.390 |
Tolstoy Deskmat (900x400x4m)           |   $ 20.00 |  $ 19.00 |    € 19,00 |  $ 27.00 |     $ 28.00 |    $ 15.990 |
Tolstoy Deskmat (700x300x4m)           |   $ 18.00 |  $ 17.50 |    € 17,00 |  $ 24.50 |     $ 25.50 |    $ 14.390 |

USB-Micro Keyboard Cable (Navy)        |           |  $ 59.00 |    € 60,00 |  $ 84.00 |             |    $ 56.090 |
USB-Micro Keyboard Cable (Green)       |           |  $ 59.00 |    € 60,00 |  $ 84.00 |             |    $ 56.090 |
USB-C Keyboard Cable (Navy)            |           |  $ 59.00 |    € 60,00 |  $ 84.00 |             |    $ 56.090 |
USB-C Keyboard Cable (Green)           |           |  $ 59.00 |    € 60,00 |  $ 84.00 |             |    $ 56.090 |
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NOTES

- Shipping & Handling charged separately for all vendors, except for zFrontier (orders over 100 USD).
- Prices for myKeyboard & Fancy Customs include VAT.  Prices for HEX Keyboards include GST.
- Prices for MKUltra, zFrontier, and Ashkeebs exclude sales tax (where applicable).
- Ashkeebs allows customers to pay in USD or CAD.  USD prices for Ashkeebs match those from MKUltra.
- Fancy Customs allows customers to pay in USD or CLP.  USD prices for Fancy Customs match those from zFrontier.

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Updates
2020 Nov 30 - MOQ reached! All keycap kits will be made.
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2020 Nov 10 - Transitioned to Group Buy thread. Multiple updates throughout post.
2020 Oct 28 - Added Pricing Table
2020 Oct 08 - Updated vendor list.
2020 Sep 30 - Added the British Navy alternative TKL Mods kit along with renders.  Updated the French Indigo Ortho mods to use icons only. Updated vendor list.
2020 Sep 24 - Posted news regarding collabs: artisans, deskmats, mousepads, clothing, et cetera. Announced partnerships with Keeb Nerb and Divine Studios.

2020 Sep 15 - Added new and updated renders. Added three new alpha kits. Details available on Wordpress.

2020 Sep 08 - Added HEX Keyboards as new Southeast Asia vendor.  Multiple kit updates. Details available on Wordpress.
2020 Aug 24 - Official Launch of Geekhack IC


US English on KBD19X by KBDfans. Renders by Manzel.


Background

Tactician.
Tyrant.
Modernizer.
Murderer.


On the Ninth of November, 1799 (18 Brumaire in the Revolutionary calendar), a coup d’etat overthrew the French Directorate and replaced it with a new government: a Consulate to be led by General Napoleon Bonaparte. Just a few short years later, he would be crowned Emperor.

To say his rise to power ruffled a few feathers across Europe would be a gross understatement. While he is credited with bringing about positive reforms to the legal and governmental systems of France, his legacy is one tainted by costly, bloody wars across the continent.

Those early decades of the nineteenth century, from Napoleon’s rise to his death, roughly mark the Napoleonic Period, an era that left indelible marks upon the face of Europe and the world.

KAT Napoleonic is a keycap set in the KAT profile that explores the history and artistic depictions of the Napoleonic Period.


US International on Mech27-TKL by Mech27. Render by Manzel.

Neoclassical Typeface
KAT Napoleonic utilizes a modified form of Playfair Display for most of its alpha keys and legend text. It is a serif-based typeface (uncommon in keycaps), and it is inspired by the Transitional and Neoclassical typefaces of the nineteenth century: Baskerville, Bodoni, and Didot.

Wide Affordable Localization
Because of the global nature of Napoleon’s impact on history, a primary goal for KAT Napoleonic has always been wide localization support. While it may not always be practical for manufacturers to support a wider array of languages and layouts in a cost-effective manner, the KAT profile does provide that flexibility.

While this keyset cannot feasibly provide support for every language worldwide, KAT Napoleonic supports more than twenty-one locales in base alpha kits. Kits available include many that are rarely (if ever) seen in the Mechanical Keyboard hobby: Swiss, BÉPO, South Slavic, Tamil, Cherokee, and Canadian French.

Colors & Uniforms
KAT Napoleonic’s primary alpha legends present dark indigo text upon a warm, ivory-like white background. A lower-contrast yellow-gold color is used for alpha key sublegends.

KAT Napoleonic’s modifier keys come in three “uniforms” of color, each inspired by the military uniforms of the era, with particular attention to the Battle of Austerlitz (1805). Austerlitz was a clash of three empires: France, Russia, and Austria. For KAT Napoleonic, you are likewise given a choice of three uniforms: French Indigo, Russian Green, and Austrian White.

Read more about the Colors & Uniforms on Wordpress.

Renders
Only a subset of renders are shown here (to keep the page from taking forever to load).
Please visit the Wordpress site to view all renders in full resolution. Alternatively, check out the Renders album on imgur.


Conone by kindakeyboards. Wellington alphas with British Navy Alt TKL Mods. Render by manzel.


S7-Elephant by jacky. Metternich alphas with TKL mods in Austrian White & Novelties. Render by manzel.


Mech27-TKL by Mech27. Waterloo alphas with TKL mods in French Indigo. Render by manzel.


Boardrun CNC by Shensmobile. Uhlan alphas with Ergo mods in Russian Green & Novelties. Render by manzel.


Neuron by walletburner. Pondicherry alphas with Forties mods in French Indigo. Render by manzel.


Abacus by SomeGreekGuy (unreleased). Austrian White numpad kit. Render by manzel.

Kits
As is typical for KAT, customers will need to choose a selection of "kits" that together will cover their chosen keyboard(s). For KAT Napoleonic, kits are broken into three major categories:
  • Alpha Kits
  • Core Mod Kits
  • Miscellaneous Kits

Kit Details
Imgur Albums

Alpha Kits
There are 21 different base Alpha kits.

Alpha Kits Table
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Alpha kits that provide standard US QWERTY characters either in legends or sublegends are noted in bold in the rightmost column.

Except where noted, all Alpha kits use Windows 10 as the basis for all legends.  Not all characters produced by AltGr or Shift+AltGr are provided in sublegends, with some omitted to keep kit sizes and prices from ballooning while maintaining compatibility.

The latest images are currently provided in this album:
KAT Napoleonic Alpha Kits

Alpha KitLanguages / Locales
Default US English – JeffersonUS English
Belgian & Apple French – Marie LouiseBelgian French & French for MacOS / iOS
BÉPO – Bépoleon NonaparteFrench BÉPO
Canadian French – ChateauguayCombined Canadian Multilingual & Canadian French
Cherokee – SequoyahCherokee Nation layout with US sublegends
Colemak – Jonathan StrangeColemak, Mod-DH, Mod-DHm, Asset, Norman, Qwpr, & Workman
Dvorak – Mr NorrellUS & UK Dvorak
EurKEY – BlücherEurKEY versions 1.2 & 1.3 (US primary legends)
French for Windows – JoséphineFrench for Windows (Legacy standard AZERTY)
German – MetternichGerman / Austrian QWERTZ
Hungarian & South Slavic – DoppelkaiserCombined South Slavic Latin & Hungarian QWERTZ
Japanese – NagasakiJapanese (JIS & ANSI-JP) with Katakana (US primary legends for ANSI-JP layout)
Nordic – BernadotteDanish, Norwegian, Swedish, Faroese, & Estonian
Polish & Lithuanian – UhlanCombined US English, Polish Programmers’ layout, & Lithuanian QWERTY
Russian – AlexanderRussian, Ukrainian, & Belarusian with US sublegends
South Slavic Cyrillic – KarađorđeSouth Slavic Cyrillic with South Slavic Latin QWERTZ sublegends
Spanish – AgustinaSpanish (European & Latin American)
Swiss – Act of MediationSwiss French & Swiss German QWERTZ
Tamil – PondicherryIndian Tamil 99
UK English & Irish – WellingtonStandard UK English QWERTY with Irish vowel sublegends
US Int’l & Netherlands – WaterlooUS International (also the official layout of the Netherlands)

Core Modifier Kits
There are five core modifier kits for KAT Napoleonic, each provided with two-or-three colored “uniform” options: French Indigo, Russian Green, or Austrian White. Each core modifier kit also comes with a custom set of military-themed novelty keys: Retreat, Attack, Support, and Hold.

Additionally, a "British Navy" TKL Mods kit is available. The British Navy kit provides a lower-cost alternative TKL Mods kit using the same primary mod color as French Indigo, but with a more mainstream approach to modifier legends. Its primary mod colors are the same as French Indigo, and it is fully compatible with the French Indigo Numpad kit for 1800 & full-size boards. 

The three core TKL Mods kits (French Indigo, Russian Green & Austrian White) provide wide-ranging compatibility and include enough modifier keys to potentially cover an additional 60% board. The British Navy kit is intentionally slimmer than the other TKL mods kits on offer and does not provide the same range of compatibility.

Core Mod Kits on Wordpress

Some boards require one of the additional Miscellaneous Kits (e.g. Spacebars) for complete coverage. See the shopping list for examples.

Core Mod Kits Table
TKL ModsTKL in IndigoTKL in GreenTKL in White
Alt TKL ModsBritish Navy TKL
NumpadNumpad in Indigo / NavyNumpad in GreenNumpad in White
Ortho ModsOrtho in IndigoOrtho in GreenOrtho in White
Forties ModsForties in IndigoForties in Green
Ergo ModsErgo in IndigoErgo in Green

Miscellaneous Kits
Miscellaneous Kits on Wordpress

Further Information
As has been noted several times, complete information about this keyset can be found on the KAT Napoleonic Home Page on Wordpress: (https://tinyurl.com/kat-napoleonic).

Physical Color Standards
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KAT-Nap colors: RAL 5011, RAL 9010, Pantone 7403 U, RAL 6005, & RAL 3031

Colors shown in keyboard renders and diagrams should not be treated as accurate representations of final keycap colors. Manufacturer samples will be checked against physical color decks of the RAL and Pantone standards above. Be aware that some variation is always possible, and these colors are not guaranteed to be exact.

Existing Set Comparison
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Early concept diagrams for KAT Napoleonic drew comparisons to GMK Rudy by Warrenified. Because the keycap designer community tends to frown on overly-similar colorways, Warrenified was consulted so as to double-check that we were in fact using different colors.


GMK Rudy (left) comparison to KAT Napoleonic French Indigo mods (right). Render by Ulliam.

Deskmats & Peripherals (WIP)
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Visit the Wordpress site for more details.



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Coffee Mugs & Neck Gaiters (available on Keeb Nerd)

Copyright & Citations
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Creative Commons Derivative Works
The following component designs and icons are licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3 (full license text):

Austrian Shield Outline. Derivative work based on “Imperial Coat of Arms of the Empire of Austria.svg” by Sodacan @ Wikimedia Commons (https://tinyurl.com/omvdoy9).
Bee Monogram. Derivative work based on “Imperial Coat of Arms of France (1804-1815).svg” by Katepanomegas @ Wikimedia Commons (https://tinyurl.com/yd8ezb7p).
French Shield Outline. Derivative work based on “Imperial Coat of Arms of France (1804-1815).svg” by Katepanomegas @ Wikimedia Commons (https://tinyurl.com/yd8ezb7p).
Minard Chart. Derivative work based on “Minard’s Map (vectorized).svg” by Martin Grandjean @ Wikimedia Commons (https://tinyurl.com/yacwdyvt).
Russian Shield Outline. Derivative work based on “Imperial Standard of the Emperor of Russia (1858–1917).svg” by TRAJAN 117 @ Wikimedia Commons (https://tinyurl.com/y7fryjn4).

Public Domain Works Cited
Bellangé, Hippolyte. “Light Infantry: Voltigeur and Carabinier from the Grande Armée.” From Histoire de Napoleon by P.-M. Laurent de L`Ardeche. 1843. Accessed via Wikimedia Commons. URL: https://tinyurl.com/yymvd5qe
David, Jacques-Louis. Napoleon Crossing the Alps. First version, painted 1800. Accessed via Wikimedia Commons. URL: https://tinyurl.com/yycndry3
David, Jacques-Louis. Napoleon Crossing the Alps. Third version, painted 1802. Accessed via Wikimedia Commons. URL: https://tinyurl.com/y36vvhg8
Gérard, François. The Battle of Austerlitz, 2nd December 1805. Painted 1810. Accessed via Wikimedia Commons. URL: https://tinyurl.com/y6zsvxk9
Karl Philipp, Prince of Schwarzenberg. Painting in the Castle Gallery at Český Krumlov. Unidentified painter, 19th century. Accessed via Wikimedia Commons. URL: https://tinyurl.com/yxafg7gg
Knotel, Richard. Uniformenkunde, Lose Blatter zur Geschihte der Entwicklung der militarischen Tracht. Berlin, 1890. Accessed via Wikimedia Commons. URL: https://tinyurl.com/y39cw53g
Louis-François, Baron Lejeune. Battle of Borodino 1812. Painted 1822. Accessed via Wikimedia Commons. URL:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Battle_of_Borodino_1812.png
Moshkov, Vladimir Ivanovich. Battle of Leipzig. Painted 1815. Accessed via Wikimedia Commons. URL: https://tinyurl.com/y364sppl
Neumann, Fritz. The charge of the 19th Hungarian infantry regiment in the Battle of Leipzig (1813) against the French. Painted 19th century. Accessed via Wikimedia Commons. URL: https://tinyurl.com/y3gwv9e7
Philippoteaux, Henri Félix Emmanuel. The Battle of Waterloo: The British Squares Receiving the Charge of the French Cuirassiers. Painted 1874. Accessed via Wikimedia Commons. URL: https://tinyurl.com/y57saukc
Tolstoy, Leo. War and Peace. Excerpt from the original Russian text. Published 1869. Accessed via Master Russian. URL: http://masterrussian.com/war_and_peace.shtml
Vernet, Horace. The Battle of Hanau. Painted 1824. Accessed via Wikimedia Commons. URL: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vernet-Battle_of_Hanau.jpg

Further Notes
All historical blurbs appearing in kit diagrams are paraphrased from various Wikipedia articles, except for a few selected quotes from:

Clarke, Susanna. Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell. Bloomsbury, copyright 2004. Goodreads URL: https://tinyurl.com/yxps4uaf
No intellectual property from the above was used in the design of the actual keycaps or deskmats. Quotes and names used from Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell in kit diagrams are intended as an homage. No endorsement of KAT Napoleonic by Susanna Clarke or Bloomsbury has been given nor should be implied.

All other designs are copyright 2020 by W. Alex Ronke (a.k.a. NoPunIn10Did). All Rights Reserved.

Thanks
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  • Thanks to my wife, the love of my life, who has been very patient and supportive of all my creative endeavors.
  • Thanks to my daughter, who is an absolutely adorable four-year-old and brings so much joy to my life.
  • Thanks to Erik (a.k.a. MK Ultra), who believed in this project while it was still a germ of an idea.
  • Huge thanks to manzel for his amazing and punctual render work.
  • Thanks to Konstantin for all the advice on the particulars of punctuation positioning in legends as well as for drawing the correct Cyrillic J for the Karađorđe alpha kit.
  • Thanks to myKeyboard.eu for committing to be a vendor for this set, and for helping with French conjugation & translation.
  • Thanks to onecreativemind for early advice on the modifier icons.
  • Thanks to Alex Lin at zFrontier for answering my KAT questions and committing to a Group Buy date early in this process.
  • Thanks to Ulliam for providing renders for the J02, the Prime_E, and the GMK Rudy comparison.
  • Thanks to shensmobile for sharing the Boardrun CNC file and for being a good creative sounding-board.
  • Thanks to walletburner for giving permission to render the Neuron keyboard.
  • Thanks to SomeGreekGuy for sharing the Abacus CNC file and giving permission to render it.
  • Thanks to the members and moderators of the many Discord servers where I’ve solicited feedback for this and other projects, with particular thanks to:
    • 40% Keyboards
    • Keycap Designers
    • Carolina Keyboards
    • Keyboard Atelier

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Offline konstantin

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 10 November 2020, 17:14:10 »
This set has a lot going for it, I'm hoping to see some good numbers. GLWGB!

Offline TJScalzo

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 10 November 2020, 20:27:16 »
I saw this set in IC and wasn't sure if it would ever make it to GB! I'm amazed at the diversity you've achieved. It's so unique to base a keyset on an entire historical period. The font you've chosen looks awesome. I hope your Group Buy goes well!

Offline NoPunIn10Did

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 06:36:24 »
I saw this set in IC and wasn't sure if it would ever make it to GB! I'm amazed at the diversity you've achieved. It's so unique to base a keyset on an entire historical period. The font you've chosen looks awesome. I hope your Group Buy goes well!
Thanks!

Offline NoPunIn10Did

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 06:38:14 »
This set has a lot going for it, I'm hoping to see some good numbers. GLWGB!

For those who haven’t met him yet, Konstantin is a brilliant and endless resource for help with typography and kitting details. He was an enormous help in making KAT Napoleonic what it is today.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 10:42:16 »
50$ shipping? Is that right? I was going to pull the trigger, but can't do that....

« Last Edit: Wed, 11 November 2020, 10:48:20 by Neodeus »

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 10:49:21 »
50$ shipping? Is that right? I was going to pull the trigger, but can't do that....

Which site is that?  And where are you shipping to?

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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 10:57:49 »
50$ shipping? Is that right? I was going to pull the trigger, but can't do that....

Which site is that?  And where are you shipping to?

I am going to MKUltra Corporation's site. I am in the US and am having it shipped to PA.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 11:03:35 »
50$ shipping? Is that right? I was going to pull the trigger, but can't do that....

Which site is that?  And where are you shipping to?

I am going to MKUltra Corporation's site. I am in the US and am having it shipped to PA.

Yikes!  That seems like a bug with one of the SKUs.  It probably has a bad weight value or something.  I will let MKU know immediately.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 11:07:42 »
50$ shipping? Is that right? I was going to pull the trigger, but can't do that....

Which site is that?  And where are you shipping to?

I am going to MKUltra Corporation's site. I am in the US and am having it shipped to PA.

Yikes!  That seems like a bug with one of the SKUs.  It probably has a bad weight value or something.  I will let MKU know immediately.

Thanks a lot. I will check back on it later.

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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 11:29:16 »
This is the first keycap group buy I'm joining and I'm quite excited! Seems like it'll also be a great lesson in patience.

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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 11:45:31 »
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50$ shipping? Is that right? I was going to pull the trigger, but can't do that....

Yup I just went and ordered it from zFrontier because of that. 50$ USPS priority mail CONUS is no bueno

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 12:00:58 »
50$ shipping? Is that right? I was going to pull the trigger, but can't do that....

Which site is that?  And where are you shipping to?

I am going to MKUltra Corporation's site. I am in the US and am having it shipped to PA.

Yikes!  That seems like a bug with one of the SKUs.  It probably has a bad weight value or something.  I will let MKU know immediately.

Thanks a lot. I will check back on it later.

That bug is now resolved.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 12:01:22 »
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50$ shipping? Is that right? I was going to pull the trigger, but can't do that....

Yup I just went and ordered it from zFrontier because of that. 50$ USPS priority mail CONUS is no bueno

Note that this was a temporary bug and is now fixed.

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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 12:09:20 »
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Note that this was a temporary bug and is now fixed.

Stupid question from me: should I cancel the order with zFrontier, and reorder it on MKU? Or there is no difference really? (Location CONUS)

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 12:19:37 »
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Note that this was a temporary bug and is now fixed.

Stupid question from me: should I cancel the order with zFrontier, and reorder it on MKU? Or there is no difference really? (Location CONUS)

I don't think you can cancel a GB order.

Depending on the size of your cart, you might break even in terms of amount paid, assuming you got the free shipping from ZFrontier.  Since the factory is in China, ZF will likely be the ones to ship first, but it's anyone's guess as to how long your package gets stuck in Chinese customs hell en route to the US.

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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 12:27:55 »
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you might break even in terms of amount paid

That sounds about right. In any case couple of dollar difference is not a big deal.

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ZF will likely be the ones to ship first

That is nice, I have been getting good results with shipping from China. And if it gets stuck, oh well, it will make it sooner or later :)

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 17:54:16 »
Just picked up a few kits.

In case it's not immediately obvious, you can easily cover two small to medium-sized boards with one core mods kit and two alpha kits :)

Thanks to a few extra keys that are included in the mod kits (excluding British Navy), you can cover one full 60%/65%/75%/TKL and have enough keys left over for another 60% or 65%, given that you use a slightly different layout (6.25u space on one, 7u on the other, which should be easy enough to do). You can even build both boards with 1.5u Backspace, which I really like.

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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 21:34:45 »
On MKultra, TKL Mods - British Navy are $54 but the group buy post says $48.
https://mkultra.click/collections/gb-kat-napoleonic/products/gb-kat-napoleonic?variant=37523644416197

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 12 November 2020, 01:45:37 »
Fixed, thank you for letting us know. Any previous purchases will have the difference refunded.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 15:17:11 »

Edit: typo
« Last Edit: Tue, 24 November 2020, 13:49:33 by dvorcol »

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Samples Received | 63% to MOQ | GB until Dec 9
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 10:10:44 »


One Week Update
Factory Samples & USB Cables Album

Since Dvorcol's last graph (which, as always, is beautiful), we recorded more up-to-date sales figures from Europe, and we are now at 63% of MOQ! We have also sold ~33% of the available USB cables from Kustom Keys so far.

On Friday, I received the first round of samples from Keyreative. The timing was very lucky, as they arrived on my doorstep shortly before I was headed out to get official product photos made for the custom USB cables. The legends are very crisp, and I'm quite happy with the quality of the printing.

Note that the samples photographed are not exact matches to the eventual final product. I have fully approved one of the five colors: the white (RAL 9010).

The three other RAL colors (red, blue, green) were in the right ballpark but could each stand to be a little more saturated and a little darker. This was communicated to Keyreative.

The yellow is much, much trickier. The sample looks to my eyes quite good, but I have asked the factory to take another stab at it. To the naked eye, it seems to match the renders more closely than the Pantone book, yet my colorimeter found the sample to be almost exactly the same as the book standard. It is possible that we will use this color, but I want to compare to 1-2 alternative attempts first.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 20:16:33 »
Just picked up a few kits.

In case it's not immediately obvious, you can easily cover two small to medium-sized boards with one core mods kit and two alpha kits :)

Thanks to a few extra keys that are included in the mod kits (excluding British Navy), you can cover one full 60%/65%/75%/TKL and have enough keys left over for another 60% or 65%, given that you use a slightly different layout (6.25u space on one, 7u on the other, which should be easy enough to do). You can even build both boards with 1.5u Backspace, which I really like.

But i has only one 2u backspace :/ btw I like that red, sadly there are no mods kit for that one
« Last Edit: Tue, 17 November 2020, 20:22:14 by Domantas »

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 18 November 2020, 09:52:57 »

Edit: typo
« Last Edit: Tue, 24 November 2020, 13:49:06 by dvorcol »

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 18 November 2020, 10:38:02 »
But i has only one 2u backspace :/ btw I like that red, sadly there are no mods kit for that one
Yes, but many/most keyboards support the 1.5u backspace alternative.  The goal with the kit wasn't to offer a duplicate of every size of every key.  It was to cover every common TKL, 60%, 75%, etc. while leaving enough mod keys behind to assemble an extra 60% keyboard of some kind.  It doesn't guarantee which kind that second board will be, and the assumption is that for keys like Backspace you're using 2u for one board and 1.5u for the other.

If you really need an inexpensive 2u in that row, grab the Mac Kit.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 21 November 2020, 15:47:21 »
Hi,

Can you confirm it's possible to create a BÉPO keyboard with KAT Napoleonic on top of an ANSI keyboard?
I'm pretty sure it is, but just in case... :)

And I think it should cover it all:
KAT Napoleonic Alphas - BÉPO (Bépoleon Nonaparte)
KAT Napoleonic Numpad - French Indigo
KAT Napoleonic TKL Alt Mods - British Navy

thanks

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 06:00:40 »
Hi,

Can you confirm it's possible to create a BÉPO keyboard with KAT Napoleonic on top of an ANSI keyboard?
I'm pretty sure it is, but just in case... :)

And I think it should cover it all:
KAT Napoleonic Alphas - BÉPO (Bépoleon Nonaparte)
KAT Napoleonic Numpad - French Indigo
KAT Napoleonic TKL Alt Mods - British Navy

thanks

Yes, that should all be possible. The one thing in question would be the Ê key, which would normally be to the right of left Shift. So long as your keyboard is configurable in some fashion, there are many ways to get that key working, but standard ANSI doesn’t have an equivalent spot for that 105th key.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 08:08:50 »
Quick note: due to some personal issues, g Heavy Industries will not be able to sell the Madness Kit during the GB period as planned.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 18:38:49 »

Edit: typo
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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 15:31:09 »
I just bought 7 sets to be able to make my 2 Filco Minila's sexy.
7 sets... and I am still missing that 1.75 CTRL key :/

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | 3x Themed Colorways | 21+ Locales | GB LIVE NOW
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 17:12:17 »
I just bought 7 sets to be able to make my 2 Filco Minila's sexy.
7 sets... and I am still missing that 1.75 CTRL key :/

I believe this user is the one I’ve been chatting with via Discord. There isn’t a 1.75u Control key for the bottom row. That wasn’t a form factor I was aware of. The best options for that use case are either (1) to use the R2 control on the bottom row or (2) to get a 40s kit and use the 1.75u novelty included there.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | MOQ Reached | All Kits will be Made | GB Ends Dec 9
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 30 November 2020, 08:55:47 »


As of the sales data received this morning, I can confirm that KAT Napoleonic has reached MOQ!  All keycap kits will be made.

We're a little under MOQ for the USB cables, but I'm confident we'll reach that.  As for the deskmats, the MOQ is actually pretty flexible, so I'm confident we'll be able to supply those as well.

Thank you to everyone who has supported this set and helped get the word out about KAT Napoleonic!

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | MOQ Reached | All Kits will be Made | GB Ends Dec 9
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 30 November 2020, 18:15:54 »

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« Reply #33 on: Tue, 01 December 2020, 20:37:35 »
As someone who love classical typography, this is a epic. I smile ear to ear after reading the history and depiction. The ampersand alone justify the reason to buy it.
I never use KAT profile before, so finger cross that it would not that much different with typing in Cherry.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | MOQ Reached | All Kits will be Made | GB Ends Dec 9
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 02 December 2020, 06:21:38 »
As someone who love classical typography, this is a epic. I smile ear to ear after reading the history and depiction. The ampersand alone justify the reason to buy it.
I never use KAT profile before, so finger cross that it would not that much different with typing in Cherry.

Lots of good reviews for KAT profile out there. It won’t feel exactly like Cherry (spherical versus cylindrical surface) though the overall angles of the sculpt strongly resemble Cherry. The whole profile is like a hybrid of SA and Cherry.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | MOQ Reached | All Kits will be Made | GB Ends Dec 9
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 02 December 2020, 19:18:09 »
MOQ reached, love to see it! One more week to go, Russian Green needs more love ;)

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | MOQ Reached | All Kits will be Made | GB Ends Dec 9
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 03 December 2020, 03:05:42 »
About to pull the trigger but do we have any sort of ETA for the kit ? I haven't seen one on MyKeyboard nor on the dedicated website.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | MOQ Reached | All Kits will be Made | GB Ends Dec 9
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 03 December 2020, 05:52:44 »
About to pull the trigger but do we have any sort of ETA for the kit ? I haven't seen one on MyKeyboard nor on the dedicated website.
That’s partly deliberate. Keyreative’s pipeline has gotten so backed up that I didn’t want to overpromise on that front. My current guess is October 2021 based on how other KAT sets are going.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | MOQ Reached | All Kits will be Made | GB Ends Dec 9
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 04 December 2020, 21:32:18 »

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | MOQ Reached | All Kits will be Made | GB Ends Dec 9
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 04 December 2020, 21:42:35 »
Congrats on the set and reaching MOQ, somehow I had missed the truly unbelievable effort that obviously went into this set to make this happe, so impressive, and also saw your note about Konstantin, no surprise there, either. Great work!!