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Offline Swishy

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical test pcb is here and working with QMK
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 10 July 2020, 10:18:26 »
I guess this is the idea, so you can use the switch north or south facing:

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either the way, at least for me is useless since I don't like to use leds  ;D ;D

exactly

Offline Swishy

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical test pcb is here and working with QMK
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 16:32:12 »
I had a fun little experiment I would like to share the future is looking bright!

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical pcb update and I made an Optical Holy Panda!!!
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 12:43:14 »
I really like the idea and gonna keep following it very closely.
Already filled out the form as well. Though I just want to make sure I understand the part about the pcb correctly:
the 60% pcb is already guaranteed and therefore not included in the options. Is that correct? (bc that’s really my thing ^ㅂ^)

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical pcb update and I made an Optical Holy Panda!!!
« Reply #53 on: Sat, 05 September 2020, 06:43:51 »
I really like the idea and gonna keep following it very closely.
Already filled out the form as well. Though I just want to make sure I understand the part about the pcb correctly:
the 60% pcb is already guaranteed and therefore not included in the options. Is that correct? (bc that’s really my thing ^ㅂ^)

Yes sir. We are finishing up everything and getting ready to order protos for the 60% pcbs very soon!

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical pcb update and I made an Optical Holy Panda!!!
« Reply #54 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 01:28:55 »
Really interested to see where this goes, just wanted to share my thoughts.

On paper, Gateron optical should be ideal for a gaming daily driver (smoothness, no debounce, MX keycaps).  It would be game changing to put together a nice optical keyboard.

I am really glad you are working on a PCB, thats a huge piece.  A QMK compatible, HHKB/Tsangan style PCB would be perfect for me personally.  If I had one, I would put it into an MX hotswap case with an integrated plate (where the PCB screws into the plate).

I couldn't find a datasheet for Gateron optical switches, so I bought an iGK61p and a bag of silver switches to check them out.  As I suspected, there is absolutely nothing to keep the switches in the PCB, it is going to be entirely on the plate to keep the switches in place.  The good news is that it looks like the distance from the top of the plate to the bottom of the switch housing is the same as it is for MX switches, so I think there is a good chance MX integrated plate cases will work well.  I just hope the standard poker pcb mounting holes will be sufficient, because I don't think you can afford to have your PCB flex much with optical.

And of couse I would try the new switches too! Also if you really want to go above and beyond with the PCB you could include an optional JST connector for a usb daughter board, so it is compatible with some high end MX cases.

Hopefully some of this was worthwhile.  Keep up the good work!

Offline Swishy

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical pcb update and I made an Optical Holy Panda!!!
« Reply #55 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 11:56:33 »
Really interested to see where this goes, just wanted to share my thoughts.

On paper, Gateron optical should be ideal for a gaming daily driver (smoothness, no debounce, MX keycaps).  It would be game changing to put together a nice optical keyboard.

I am really glad you are working on a PCB, thats a huge piece.  A QMK compatible, HHKB/Tsangan style PCB would be perfect for me personally.  If I had one, I would put it into an MX hotswap case with an integrated plate (where the PCB screws into the plate).

I couldn't find a datasheet for Gateron optical switches, so I bought an iGK61p and a bag of silver switches to check them out.  As I suspected, there is absolutely nothing to keep the switches in the PCB, it is going to be entirely on the plate to keep the switches in place.  The good news is that it looks like the distance from the top of the plate to the bottom of the switch housing is the same as it is for MX switches, so I think there is a good chance MX integrated plate cases will work well.  I just hope the standard poker pcb mounting holes will be sufficient, because I don't think you can afford to have your PCB flex much with optical.

And of couse I would try the new switches too! Also if you really want to go above and beyond with the PCB you could include an optional JST connector for a usb daughter board, so it is compatible with some high end MX cases.

Hopefully some of this was worthwhile.  Keep up the good work!

sadly we couldn't get tsangan, but everything else we have handled I designed a custom standoff to allow for regular poker style cases so its universally drop in and support standard 60% plates even better we did put in a JST so if you would like you can use with high end boards.

Offline Swishy

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical pcb update and I made an Optical Holy Panda!!!
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 01:05:03 »
The parts are here yay so expect a big update soon, also working on getting sample for the Gateron optical inks! We may even have some vendors soon.

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical pcb update and I made an Optical Holy Panda!!!
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 04:18:27 »
This sure is interesting. I look forward to seeing where this goes :D

Offline KaosJ

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical pcb update and I made an Optical Holy Panda!!!
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 05:38:40 »
Interesting  :thumb:




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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical pcb update and I made an Optical Holy Panda!!!
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 08:07:19 »
excited!!  :cool:
2x GH60 revC - lubed Linjärs 65g / lubed H1s 65g with SPRIT 5mm acrylic plate | Dolch PAC - Cherry housing / Gateron sliders 65g and QMK clips | Raptor K1 G80-1890 stock 
Floating on Cherry/GMK caps - White on Black, Classic Beige, Dolch, Olivetti, Alcatel MMK, Hellgrau

Offline Swishy

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical pcb update and I made an Optical Holy Panda!!!
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 01:37:27 »
Happy to see all of you so interested in the PCB, also have tons of info a about UHMWPE and optical that I am trying to make a good recording explaining it. All this support is very awesome though never did I think I would've been into keyboards let alone making stuff related to keyboards. Cant wait to show you guys what we have in store.  :D!!!!

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical pcb update and I made an Optical Holy Panda!!!
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 05:25:45 »
any updates on the optical inks as well?
2x GH60 revC - lubed Linjärs 65g / lubed H1s 65g with SPRIT 5mm acrylic plate | Dolch PAC - Cherry housing / Gateron sliders 65g and QMK clips | Raptor K1 G80-1890 stock 
Floating on Cherry/GMK caps - White on Black, Classic Beige, Dolch, Olivetti, Alcatel MMK, Hellgrau

Offline Swishy

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical pcb update and I made an Optical Holy Panda!!!
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 07:43:41 »
any updates on the optical inks as well?
Yes, They are gonna be making samples but they are busy right now due to new products releasing, but we have made actual progress.

Offline kohalified

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Optical pcb update and I made an Optical Holy Panda!!!
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 05 November 2020, 02:33:33 »
Looking forward to getting a qmk compatible optical pcb!

Offline Swishy

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Re: [IC] Optical Future: Custom Screws are in
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 21 November 2020, 06:20:46 »
really excited this project is so close to being done the Proto is here but it is having some issues that we have to fix, but the standoffs turned out great I am super happy with the CNC quality and they are super easy to use I am hoping in the future they can even be used for hot swap boards for extra support.