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Offline BahaMech

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[IC] Bounce (INTG-75) 75% - Quick Update 30/1/2021
« on: Sun, 27 December 2020, 20:17:48 »
Bounce 75%

Introduction
I decided to design my own case... and after learning a lot from the Melody65 GB I decided to do another GB for my new design.
I wanted to do a 75% since I feel like there are far too many 60% and 65% cases out there.
I went with the rounded design because I'm into simple/minimalistic designs, but it felt like everything i was designing had already been done before. So I went ahead with the rounded design because it was different from anything else.

For consistent updates, check out the Discord Server

Google Forms (for your feedback)
Main Form
Second Form



Renders


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*colors are only for rendering purposes and have not been finalised yet

E-White Case + GMK Deepwell by Tyson




Navy Case + Random Grayscale Set














Details
Name = Bounce 75%
ETA = 6+ Months
Price = TBA
Colors = TBA
Typing Angle = 6 Degrees
Mounting Type = Integrated or Top Mount (top mount for the "Modular Edition")
Materials = Aluminium, Polycarbonate, Brushed Brass
PCB = Custom 75% PCB from KBDfans
Layout = (
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) with support for split backspace and stepped caps lock

Whats Included in the Kit
Standard Kit
Top Case (including 3mm integrated plate) - Polycarbonate or Aluminium
Bottom Case - Polycarbonate or Aluminium
Weight - Polycarbonate, Aluminium or Sandblasted (matte) Brass
USB-C Daughterboard
PCB

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Modular Edition Kit
Top Case - Polycarbonate or Aluminium
Bottom Case - Polycarbonate or Aluminium
Plate - Polycarbonate, Aluminium or Sandblasted (matte) Brass
Weight - Polycarbonate, Aluminium or Sandblasted (matte) Brass
USB-C Daughterboard
PCB


To-Do-List
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1. Finish off the design using your feedback
2. Design a PCB
3. Make a PCB Sample
4. Make sure the design is able to be manufactured, and if not, make minor changes
5. Make a logo and possibly change the name *URGENT*
6. Design a suitable box
7. Do more renders
8. Get an estimation on the price
9. Make samples/prototypes


FAQ
What is that Square next to the arrow cluster? This is where the scroll lock, num lock, and caps lock indicators will be and if none are activated it will cycle through colors.
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Will this have RGB? I have not yet exactly decided, however, hotswap PCBs will have per-key RGB. While non-hotswap PCBs may have some underglow.


Changelog/Update Timeline

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28/12/2020 - Interest check posted

28/12/2020 - After receiving all your feedback, I am looking into making the modular edition compatible for gasket mount as well as adding support for split right shift and split spacebar

1/1/2021 - Happy New Year everyone! Today's update is about the plate. I have added some renders about the plate options; Top left = Standard Integrated, Top right = Modified Integrated, Bottom = Top Mount (3mm and 1.5mm plate). If you look closely at the 2 middle renders, you will see that I have sort of added relief cuts around the entire plate. This is my attempt at solving the issues with integrated plates while making the stiffness of the plate more even than a regular top mount. This will, of course, require a lot of samples/editing to be made/done to get perfect however, if I realise that it isn't working out or simply isn't worth it, I will scrap the whole idea of having the integrated plate and will stick to doing a top mount.

2/1/2021 - After receiving a lot of negative feedback about the integrated plate, I've decided that it isn't worth it to have one. So I have now scrapped the whole idea of having the integrated plate and am now going to focus on the new plate. Please fill in the second form to help decide what the new name will be

3/1/2021 - Changed name from "INTG" to "Bounce" as suggested by you guys

8/1/2021 - More renders including one render of the bottom of the case + a new Discord Server for updates and feedback. (Thank you to the person who suggested this)

30/1/2021
Hi everyone,

Sorry for the lack of updates.
First of all the discord server was deleted for some reason... I will come up with a solution (worst case scenario i will just make another one)
Second; not much has changed however I have given the design to KBDfans and we have gathered all the info to design the PCB, not much will be done at this point as Chinese New Year approaches. Just know that I am still working on this.

Thanks,
Dion


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Please make sure you fill in the google form at the top of the post and leave all your feedback below.
Thanks,
Dion
« Last Edit: Sat, 30 January 2021, 01:13:43 by BahaMech »

Offline Kokaloo

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - Feedback Needed - 28/12/2020
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 27 December 2020, 20:35:27 »
fresh and exciting!

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - Feedback Needed - 28/12/2020
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 27 December 2020, 20:53:35 »
Nice, looking forward to this board development, but how about sand-blasted instead of brush brass?


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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - Feedback Needed - 28/12/2020
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 27 December 2020, 21:17:47 »
something that isnt 65% is a win in my books this year. glwic
« Last Edit: Sun, 27 December 2020, 21:20:08 by Baka Bot »

Offline BahaMech

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - Feedback Needed - 28/12/2020
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 27 December 2020, 22:18:30 »
Nice, looking forward to this board development, but how about sand-blasted instead of brush brass?


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Oh. I was meant to write sand blasted. Hahahahaha. Will change later

Offline ThickJimmy

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - Feedback Needed - 28/12/2020
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 27 December 2020, 23:29:48 »
Really love the design. Need more boards like this!

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - Feedback Needed - 28/12/2020
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 27 December 2020, 23:58:20 »
Not sure pc counts as a weight material. My understanding is weight material must be denser than the case material.

Offline BahaMech

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - Feedback Needed - 28/12/2020
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 28 December 2020, 00:06:00 »
Not sure pc counts as a weight material. My understanding is weight material must be denser than the case material.

This is true, but I wanted to offer PC as a weight material not to add weight (because it won't of course), but to give people the option to choose exactly what they want. Some people might want a full PC keeb, some people might want a full Alu keeb.

Hope that clarifies my reasoning for choosing PC

Offline BahaMech

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - Feedback Needed - 28/12/2020
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 28 December 2020, 04:12:13 »
Everyone make sure to frequently check the Changelog section on the IC for updates (update added 👀)

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - New Update - 28/12/2020
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 28 December 2020, 14:02:03 »
Will it come with a hotswap pcb?

Offline BahaMech

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - New Update - 28/12/2020
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 28 December 2020, 17:20:23 »
Will it come with a hotswap pcb?
Of course! :)

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - New Update - 28/12/2020
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 28 December 2020, 18:22:42 »
I'm super down for this board! I made sure to fill out that form! Can't wait to see more about this thing! I love the look! It will fit right in with my Orange75! hahahaha

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - New Update - 28/12/2020
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 28 December 2020, 21:19:50 »
Thanks for starting this IC. I'm very interested. Based on my experience with Doro67 which has a thick 3mm integrated plate, the undesirable hollow noise can be easily fixed with case foam.

Some suggestions for improvements are:
1. Please consider widening side bezels to match top and bottom for a more balanced look
2. Would be great if you can squeeze in underglow to hotswap PCB, but I understand this can be a challenge
3. Would be great if you can offer a custom case foam for noise management
4. Additional options for different case colors and finishes would be great (within reasonable variety, of course) (+1 for Navy)
5. Please make sure stabilizer cut-out accommodates 3rd party stabs like C3 Equalz, Everglide, etc. since some boards have had some fit issues
6. I'm ok with rounded edges as it adds a bit of retro feel, but not too round please

Questions/Requests:
1. Will the PCB have ESD protection?
2. Can you provide renders for bottom casing with underglow?
3. What's the typing angle?

Offline BahaMech

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - New Update - 28/12/2020
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 28 December 2020, 23:05:29 »
Thanks for starting this IC. I'm very interested. Based on my experience with Doro67 which has a thick 3mm integrated plate, the undesirable hollow noise can be easily fixed with case foam.

Some suggestions for improvements are:
1. Please consider widening side bezels to match top and bottom for a more balanced look
2. Would be great if you can squeeze in underglow to hotswap PCB, but I understand this can be a challenge
3. Would be great if you can offer a custom case foam for noise management
4. Additional options for different case colors and finishes would be great (within reasonable variety, of course) (+1 for Navy)
5. Please make sure stabilizer cut-out accommodates 3rd party stabs like C3 Equalz, Everglide, etc. since some boards have had some fit issues
6. I'm ok with rounded edges as it adds a bit of retro feel, but not too round please

Questions/Requests:
1. Will the PCB have ESD protection?
2. Can you provide renders for bottom casing with underglow?
3. What's the typing angle?

Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to put this together! Comments like these will help me greatly, as they will make me think about certain things before they become a problem (or before its too late to fix). Here are the answers to your suggestions/questions;

1. Will Consider (I'll give it a go and see how it looks)
2. Will try my best
3. There will 100% be custom case foam to dampen unwanted sounds
4. Will try my best to include a variety of colors that most people would want
5. Will try my best (and will make samples to check for these things - so it won't be an issue)
6. I'm personally happy with how rounded it is at the moment, and I think there's a good balance between standing out but not being obnoxious

1. 100% will have ESD protection
2. More renders will be provided after the smaller details of the case have been finalised
3. The typing angle is 6 degrees, I personally wanted something in between 7 and 5 so that's why

Feel free to ask more/let me know if I wasn't clear about certain ones.
Thanks again!  :D

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Bump... New plate update under the "changelog" section + some new renders.

Also, make sure you fill out the google form if you haven't already, it helps out a lot.

Thanks!

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really digging it aesthetically, glwic

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Bump

New update... the case is no longer using an integrated plate! So as you may already be thinking, the name is no longer suited to the case, so I have created a second form for you guys to vote on which name you think is best.

Thanks for the feedback so far

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Bump

New update... the case is no longer using an integrated plate! So as you may already be thinking, the name is no longer suited to the case, so I have created a second form for you guys to vote on which name you think is best.

Thanks for the feedback so far

Thanks for the update. Can you then add carbon fiber plate as an option? Thanks for adding my name suggestion to the new survey form!

Offline BahaMech

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Bump

New update... the case is no longer using an integrated plate! So as you may already be thinking, the name is no longer suited to the case, so I have created a second form for you guys to vote on which name you think is best.

Thanks for the feedback so far

Thanks for the update. Can you then add carbon fiber plate as an option? Thanks for adding my name suggestion to the new survey form!

I'm going to try my best to add as many plate options as possible (that are reasonable). But to be 100% honest, I doubt we will be able to do a carbon fibre plate

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Re: [IC] Bounce (INTG-75) 75% - No Integrated plate! (Top Mount Only) 2/1/2021
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 05 January 2021, 05:13:09 »
R-75 (hopefully with RGB LED integration) is a good name  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - New Update - 28/12/2020
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 05 January 2021, 05:18:47 »
Will it come with a hotswap pcb?
Of course! :)
Any chance for the hotswap version to support stepped capslock (even as stepped-only)? It would be a rara avis, the hotswap fans are always left behind when it comes to stepped capslock.

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Re: [IC] INTG 75 - New 75% Keyboard IC - New Update - 28/12/2020
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 05 January 2021, 07:36:07 »
Will it come with a hotswap pcb?
Of course! :)
Any chance for the hotswap version to support stepped capslock (even as stepped-only)? It would be a rara avis, the hotswap fans are always left behind when it comes to stepped capslock.

I will consider this, as well as split backspace... but its unlikely

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Re: [IC] Bounce (INTG-75) 75% - More renders + Discord Server 8/1/2021
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 18:15:10 »
Bump... new update in changelog

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Re: [IC] Bounce (INTG-75) 75% - More renders + Discord Server 8/1/2021
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 08 January 2021, 05:50:54 »
Why are there so many nice boards coming up. It's not fair on my wallet
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Re: [IC] Bounce (INTG-75) 75% - More renders + Discord Server 8/1/2021
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 08 January 2021, 06:36:24 »
I like it.

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Re: [IC] Bounce (INTG-75) 75% - More renders + Discord Server 8/1/2021
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 08 January 2021, 19:38:58 »
love the new gray/green render

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Re: [IC] Bounce (INTG-75) 75% - More renders + Discord Server 8/1/2021
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 08 January 2021, 21:37:30 »
I like the c u r v e s
very glad to see top mount as well.
Will have to see some protos and maybe sound test but will definitely follow your progress
GLWIC

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Re: [IC] Bounce (INTG-75) 75% - Quick Update 30/1/2021
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 30 January 2021, 01:14:04 »
Hi everyone,

Sorry for the lack of updates.
First of all the discord server was deleted for some reason... I will come up with a solution (worst case scenario i will just make another one)
Second; not much has changed however I have given the design to KBDfans and we have gathered all the info to design the PCB, not much will be done at this point as Chinese New Year approaches. Just know that I am still working on this.

Thanks,
Dion

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Re: [IC] Bounce (INTG-75) 75% - Quick Update 30/1/2021
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 02 February 2021, 21:46:29 »
Hi everyone,

Sorry for the lack of updates.
First of all the discord server was deleted for some reason... I will come up with a solution (worst case scenario i will just make another one)
Second; not much has changed however I have given the design to KBDfans and we have gathered all the info to design the PCB, not much will be done at this point as Chinese New Year approaches. Just know that I am still working on this.

Thanks,
Dion

haha i noticed the server was missing -- glad to hear this is still in progress  :)

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Re: [IC] Bounce (INTG-75) 75% - Quick Update 30/1/2021
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 03:35:55 »
I really, really, *really* would love to see this keeb come to life, perhaps with KBDFans help.

And I really, really, *really* would love to see that little square above the right arrow key be an actual button, not just a light-up accent. :)

Make it have a little bit of click, like a New Nintendo 3DS face button. :)