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Offline Kotahh

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[IC] Peek - An FRLWKLTKL | GB LIVE! 7/15 - 8/15)
« on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:04:06 »
    This is the interest check for my first project, the Peek TKL

    This is a small project that has been in the works for the past 5 months. The peek is an F-Rowless Winkeyless TKL developed by brie (me/Kotahh) that features a top mount design, a simplistic profile, and a brass accent piece. The brass accent is inspired by anime related vinyl stickers commonly found on cars. With simplicity in mind, the board was designed for usability and a clean look that fits into any desk setup.




    If you would like to support me and/or keep up with the project, you may join my Discord here:
    Discord Link

    Please fill out my IC form, it will be helpful!
    IC Form


    Changelog/Revisions since prototype


    Additional prototype photos:

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    Renders courtesy of musicman123#9403:

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    Technical Specifications:
    • Case materials: 6063 aluminum, anodized in black and red (Pantone 484-C)
    • Weight/Accent piece: sandblasted brass
    • Plate material: 5052 black anodized aluminum
    • Optional plates: black polycarbonate, aluminum, and FR4
    • PCB: 1.6mm hotswap PCB designed by FJ Laboratories
    • Built board weight: ~1583g (~3.49lb)
    • Typing angle: 6 degrees
    • Mounting style: Top Mount
    • Dimensions: 355.6 x 114 x 15.25 mm

    PCB Specifications:
    • 1.6 mm thickness
    • AT90USB646-MU microchip
    • Utilizes Kailh v1 hotswap sockets
    • QMK, VIA, and Remap compatibility
    Additional information can be found here

    Currently only have hotswap as the main PCB at this current time, if you would like to see a solder PCB, please let me know in the IC form!

    Group Buy Info:
    • GB: 80 units maximum + F&F
    • Pricing: $350 USD
    • GB Date: July 15, 2022
    • GB Lead Time: 6-8 months after GB ends
    • Vendor: Will be setting up my own shopify store (Shipping based in Canada)

    With ongoing global issues and the volatility of material prices, pricing will be finalized before the GB to ensure the most accurate pricing can be locked.

    Why the low unit count?
    The group buy will be capped at 80 units to keep production, QC, packaging, and fulfillment lead times reasonable and manageable.

    Kit Contents:
    • Top case
    • Bottom case
    • Aluminum plate
    • Unified Daughterboard + JST cable
    • Hotswap PCB
    • SKUF feet
    • Hard carrying case
    • Microfiber cloth
    • M2 x 6 mm Socket cap screws
    • M2.5 x 5 mm Flat head screws
    • M2 x 5 mm Socket cap screws
    • M2 x 3 mm Socket cap screws
    • Allen key

    Exploded Layout:


    Adjusted Front Height: (19.232 mm)


    PCB Layout:


    Plate Layout:


    Old plate layouts:
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    Currently the PCB & Plate only support Tsangan bottom row and no ISO.
    Plate files will be open sourced after the GB.

    Soundtests:

    Sound tests

    Courtesy of Windz#7101

    Timeline/To Do List:
    • Gather feedback
    • Apply feedback/adjustments to existing design
    • Finalize pricing
    • Start GB

    Special Thanks:
    • My friend Yaser
    • The Basement
    • Musicman from FJ Labs for the PCB design & renders
    • Maker from Maker Keyboards
    « Last Edit: Sat, 16 July 2022, 11:04:47 by Kotahh »

    Offline Kotahh

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    [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 5/10/22
    « Reply #1 on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:04:33 »
    Prototype comments:
    • Accent piece engraving is slightly misaligned to the bottom
    • Biggest ding is on the inner top piece (Not noticeable when built)
    • A few hook marks on the interior of the case but are minor
    • Ano is a little rougher at some places
    • In one corner on the bottom of the top piece, there is a small black mark I couldn’t get off (Hard to capture on camera)
    • Top engraving is not very noticeable

    See photos below:

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    5/10/2022 UPDATE:
    • A hard carrying case will be included in the kit.
    • Plate mounting points have been revised
    • As per the IC form, due to the most popularity, PC will be offered as the optional plate.
    • The engraving on the brass accent was updated and will have a deeper engraving to be more noticeable. As to keep consistent with the original design, the brass accent will not be left blank.
    • The top engraving was enlarged slightly and will be a fully CNC’ed rather than just the outline. As per the request from many, there will be two versions, one with the top engraving and one without.
    • The height of the keyboard has been increased to account for the gap regarding PBT keycaps
    • Considering a black ano plate instead of red/silver to account for the most versatility.

    6/8/2022 - UPDATE 2:

    • Pricing is currently looking like $350USD
    • Utilizing a different grit for the case, it feels much smoother and I am liking it a lot more than the previous prototype
    • The slight increase of the height has resolved the gap with PBT keycaps
    • Happier with how the new engraving looks
    • I have noticed the new prototype top has a brighter red ano compared to the previous revision. Considering shipping it back to the manu to have it re-ano'd
    • Currently reaching out to a few content creators for a review stream
    • Speaking with the PCB designer/manu, it is priced based on unique PCBs so it would not be cheap to manu a small numbers of solder PCBs at this current moment. There are a few other reasons but this is the biggest reason. As the original intent was to run it with a hotswap PCB, it will continue to be run as so.

    6/22/2022 - UPDATE 3:

    The start of the GB: Friday July 15, 2022 - Monday August 15, 2022
    GB will last 4 weeks or until all of the units are sold

    • The plate was updated to include additional layouts
    • Plate/case foam will be included as an optional add-on
    • FR4 will now also be included as an optional add-on plate so optional plates would be: alu, FR4, and PC
    • A review stream has been delayed until further notice
    « Last Edit: Tue, 21 June 2022, 23:58:53 by Kotahh »

    Offline chat and team

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #2 on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:09:44 »
    meh, would have been intrested if there wasn't anime,Canada, or waiting to see how much you can stretch the price.
    geekhack mods constantly break tos and refuse to read
    Chinese overlords won

    Offline BasedCoper

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #3 on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:14:15 »
    Looks solid and nice proto. I would like to ask though, why only let us pick one optional plate material in the IC form? Also, forcing hot-swap is a BIG mistake imo considering this isn't an entry-level board. Pease let us pick solder from the start and please allow us to remove the engraving at the top. Otherwise, looks fantastic.

    love me some FRL TKLs.

    edit: would also like to see a hard carrying case, unless i just missed it in IC, in which case my bad
    « Last Edit: Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:16:17 by BasedCoper »

    Offline Kotahh

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #4 on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:21:31 »
    meh, would have been intrested if there wasn't anime,Canada, or waiting to see how much you can stretch the price.


    Appreciate your comment!

    Looks solid and nice proto. I would like to ask though, why only let us pick one optional plate material in the IC form? Also, forcing hot-swap is a BIG mistake imo considering this isn't an entry-level board. Pease let us pick solder from the start and please allow us to remove the engraving at the top. Otherwise, looks fantastic.

    love me some FRL TKLs.

    edit: would also like to see a hard carrying case, unless i just missed it in IC, in which case my bad

    PCB is currently hotswap at the moment, I included an option to show support for a solder pcb in the IC form if people want it and it will be considered.
    Also with the low quantity of the GB, as solder and hotswap are treated as different variances, it would drastically change the pricing of each PCB.

    The reason you can only pick one plate is so I can keep the project more manageable and keep the costs lowered since there will likely be only one extra plate. Allowing people to pick one will give me a better idea of whats most desirable.
    Regarding the hard carrying case, I am currently considering a hard carrying case vs normal box + custom foam inserts.

    Thanks for your comments.
    « Last Edit: Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:28:15 by Kotahh »

    Offline huey

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #5 on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:25:41 »
    I think a deweebified version would go a long way for those who like the board but can't get a long with the degen nature.

    Also I think the relationship between top and bottom bezel is little weird. The design could be better if the bottom was wider or the top was smaller.

    GLWIC

    Offline Mdark205

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #6 on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:32:27 »
    Big fan of the design, and the look of the weight. Count me in for one  :thumb:

    Offline shima

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #7 on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:34:15 »
    peak design with peek
    glwic & i hope to join gb
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    Offline BasedCoper

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #8 on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 22:00:03 »
    meh, would have been intrested if there wasn't anime,Canada, or waiting to see how much you can stretch the price.


    Appreciate your comment!

    Looks solid and nice proto. I would like to ask though, why only let us pick one optional plate material in the IC form? Also, forcing hot-swap is a BIG mistake imo considering this isn't an entry-level board. Pease let us pick solder from the start and please allow us to remove the engraving at the top. Otherwise, looks fantastic.

    love me some FRL TKLs.

    edit: would also like to see a hard carrying case, unless i just missed it in IC, in which case my bad

    PCB is currently hotswap at the moment, I included an option to show support for a solder pcb in the IC form if people want it and it will be considered.
    Also with the low quantity of the GB, as solder and hotswap are treated as different variances, it would drastically change the pricing of each PCB.

    The reason you can only pick one plate is so I can keep the project more manageable and keep the costs lowered since there will likely be only one extra plate. Allowing people to pick one will give me a better idea of whats most desirable.
    Regarding the hard carrying case, I am currently considering a hard carrying case vs normal box + custom foam inserts.

    Thanks for your comments.

    I  appreciate your reply. I strongly hope you do choose the hard carrying case as it is less wasteful and very useful to take to work, etc. Thanks.

    Offline ee

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #9 on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 22:38:48 »
    that will be $3000 dollars

    Offline murpy

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #10 on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 22:43:37 »
    Please consider an extra plate option like PC for the gb. Not having a solder PCB would be a make or break for me unfortunately. Otherwise glwic

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    Offline Sicowa

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #11 on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 23:03:27 »
    This looks cool, I think that if people really wanted a non weeb version then they should have bought the crin imo.
    I think if your going to only offer one pcb option it should be solder honestly too.
    glwic.
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    Offline spedywin

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #12 on: Sat, 30 April 2022, 23:11:03 »
    dont look bad, hopefully price good, thank you and gl

    Offline gotgoodiez

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #13 on: Sun, 01 May 2022, 19:36:25 »
    I think I black or matching red plate would go better with this board than silver and I personally like soldered pcbs more and would like to see that make the cut. Also I think the weight on the back matches the board naming even if it isn't my personal taste but I don't think the horns on the front add anything so a version without would be nice. Lastly a cool idea if possible is to have the weight stay blank and you can add some peek stickers or something in place to let people personalize the peeking person. GLWIC though!

    Offline BasedCoper

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #14 on: Sun, 01 May 2022, 21:31:14 »
    I think I black or matching red plate would go better with this board than silver and I personally like soldered pcbs more and would like to see that make the cut. Also I think the weight on the back matches the board naming even if it isn't my personal taste but I don't think the horns on the front add anything so a version without would be nice. Lastly a cool idea if possible is to have the weight stay blank and you can add some peek stickers or something in place to let people personalize the peeking person. GLWIC though!

    Def second basically everything said here.

    Offline yangsiyin

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #15 on: Mon, 02 May 2022, 20:40:16 »
    I'm digging it

    Offline lnguyen_

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #16 on: Tue, 03 May 2022, 08:22:59 »
    YES YES YES

    Offline moistbobo

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #17 on: Tue, 03 May 2022, 09:41:14 »
    very niche, but also very interested. I hope the engravings stay on... otherwise it loses some of its power

    Offline derpter

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #18 on: Wed, 04 May 2022, 16:53:44 »
    I think I black or matching red plate would go better with this board than silver and I personally like soldered pcbs more and would like to see that make the cut. Also I think the weight on the back matches the board naming even if it isn't my personal taste but I don't think the horns on the front add anything so a version without would be nice. Lastly a cool idea if possible is to have the weight stay blank and you can add some peek stickers or something in place to let people personalize the peeking person. GLWIC though!

    Second everything said here

    Offline mr_foggy

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #19 on: Thu, 05 May 2022, 11:56:55 »
    board is perfect for me as is. please don't change a thing.
    count me as a customer if so

    Offline BasedCoper

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #20 on: Thu, 05 May 2022, 16:11:05 »
    I think I black or matching red plate would go better with this board than silver and I personally like soldered pcbs more and would like to see that make the cut. Also I think the weight on the back matches the board naming even if it isn't my personal taste but I don't think the horns on the front add anything so a version without would be nice. Lastly a cool idea if possible is to have the weight stay blank and you can add some peek stickers or something in place to let people personalize the peeking person. GLWIC though!

    Second everything said here

    u mean third everything?

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #21 on: Sat, 07 May 2022, 12:44:18 »
    Very cool, me likey

    Offline zekth

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #22 on: Sat, 07 May 2022, 16:29:33 »
    No weeb weight + soldered PCB and i'm in  :thumb:

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
    « Reply #23 on: Sat, 07 May 2022, 17:18:08 »
    good luck
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    Offline Kotahh

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    [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 5/10/22
    « Reply #24 on: Tue, 10 May 2022, 20:36:08 »
    Just wanted to take a second and thank everyone who filled out the IC form.

    Update 1:
    • A hard carrying case will be included in the kit.
    • Plate mounting points have been revised
    • As per the IC form, due to the most popularity, PC will be offered as the optional plate.
    • The engraving on the brass accent was updated and will have a deeper engraving to be more noticeable. As to keep consistent with the original design, the brass accent will not be left blank.
    • The top engraving was enlarged slightly and will be a fully CNC’ed rather than just the outline. As per the request from many, there will be two versions, one with the top engraving and one without.
    • The height of the keyboard has been increased to account for the gap regarding PBT keycaps
    • Considering a black ano plate instead of red/silver to account for the most versatility.
    • There are also smaller QOL/cosmetic/miscellaneous changes that can be found HERE
    « Last Edit: Wed, 11 May 2022, 13:24:36 by Kotahh »

    Offline Kotahh

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 5/10/22
    « Reply #25 on: Wed, 08 June 2022, 17:16:06 »
    6/8/2022 - Update 2:

    •    Pricing is currently looking like $350USD
    •    Utilizing a different grit for the case, it feels much smoother and I am liking it a lot more than the previous prototype
    •    The slight increase of the height has resolved the gap with PBT keycaps
    •    Happier with how the new engraving looks
    •    I have noticed the new prototype top has a brighter red ano compared to the previous revision. Considering shipping it back to the manu to have it re-ano'd
    •    Currently reaching out to a few content creators for a review stream
    •    Speaking with the PCB designer/manu, it is priced based on unique PCBs so it would not be cheap to manu a small numbers of solder PCBs at this current moment. There are a few other reasons but this is the biggest reason. As the original intent was to run it with a hotswap PCB, it will continue to be run as so.

    See for any applicable photos:
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    Offline Flybeck

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
    « Reply #26 on: Wed, 08 June 2022, 21:26:15 »
    Great improvements.

    Offline LegendsWorks

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
    « Reply #27 on: Thu, 09 June 2022, 03:23:24 »
    Way to degen, design wise its fine may consider, GLWIC :thumb:

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
    « Reply #28 on: Thu, 09 June 2022, 11:30:12 »
    I like FRLWKLTKL !

    Offline bitbot

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
    « Reply #29 on: Thu, 09 June 2022, 15:04:31 »
    looks alright :thumb:

    Offline GuavaJoe

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
    « Reply #30 on: Fri, 10 June 2022, 01:56:44 »
    Count me in

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
    « Reply #31 on: Sun, 12 June 2022, 00:32:44 »
    Crin with weight

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    Offline Kotahh

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    Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
    « Reply #32 on: Tue, 21 June 2022, 23:51:55 »
    6/22/2022 Small update 3:

    The start of the GB: Friday July 15, 2022 - Monday August 15, 2022
    GB will last 4 weeks or until all of the units are sold

    •    The plate was updated to include additional layouts
    •    Plate/case foam will be included as an optional add-on
    •    FR4 will now also be included as an optional add-on plate so optional plates would be: alu, FR4, and PC
    •    A review stream has been delayed until further notice
    « Last Edit: Tue, 21 June 2022, 23:57:18 by Kotahh »

    Offline Kotahh

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    Re: [IC] Peek - An FRLWKLTKL | GB LIVE! 7/15 - 8/15)
    « Reply #33 on: Tue, 19 July 2022, 12:00:09 »
    GB is live as of 7/15! GB post has been awaiting approval.


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