Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?

[Leslieann]

Love what Elon has been doing for X, hopefully Youtube / Google gets taken over next.  Actually maybe Facebook/IG next, Suckerberg recently and finally confessed to censoring things for current administration (smart people have known this the whole time). Super DB move.

Yep, I too love that he's running it straight into the ground, most social media is a cancer.

Companies censor things all the time for all sorts of reasons (including especially X), the world isn't always black and white and you really need to stop buying into all the rage bait your media (and Elon) is feeding you.  Every website censors, all of them. Every. Single. One. Where is your rage for that, stop letting your media tell you who to be mad at.

As for "smart people", a megaphone doesn't make you smart it only makes you louder than the people around you. Confirmation bias (and Dunning-Kruger) does the rest.

[Scrambler_S]

Love what Elon has been doing for X, hopefully Youtube / Google gets taken over next.  Actually maybe Facebook/IG next, Suckerberg recently and finally confessed to censoring things for current administration (smart people have known this the whole time). Super DB move.

Yep, I too love that he's running it straight into the ground, most social media is a cancer.

Companies censor things all the time for all sorts of reasons (including especially X), the world isn't always black and white and you really need to stop buying into all the rage bait your media (and Elon) is feeding you.  Every website censors, all of them. Every. Single. One. Where is your rage for that, stop letting your media tell you who to be mad at.

As for "smart people", a megaphone doesn't make you smart it only makes you louder than the people around you. Confirmation bias (and Dunning-Kruger) does the rest.

None of what you said is even remotely true, he fired the cancer that worked there and it's got more users now more than ever.  Hilarious take though, thanks for the laugh.

[fohat.digs]

social media is a cancer.

Come on, Leslieann, you know better than to feed the troll.

[pixelpusher]

Love what Elon has been doing for X, hopefully Youtube / Google gets taken over next.  Actually maybe Facebook/IG next, Suckerberg recently and finally confessed to censoring things for current administration (smart people have known this the whole time). Super DB move.

Yep, I too love that he's running it straight into the ground, most social media is a cancer.

Companies censor things all the time for all sorts of reasons (including especially X), the world isn't always black and white and you really need to stop buying into all the rage bait your media (and Elon) is feeding you.  Every website censors, all of them. Every. Single. One. Where is your rage for that, stop letting your media tell you who to be mad at.

As for "smart people", a megaphone doesn't make you smart it only makes you louder than the people around you. Confirmation bias (and Dunning-Kruger) does the rest.

None of what you said is even remotely true, he fired the cancer that worked there and it's got more users now more than ever.  Hilarious take though, thanks for the laugh.

I don't know about "everything" being untrue.  Some of it might be informed opinion.  However, you stated that "it's got more users now more than ever" which is false.  Every research firm and Musk himself can attest to the fact that X does indeed have less users now then when he took over.  In fact, most social media platforms have stagnated, but none as rapidly as X




Note: These numbers don't account for people using the website (not the app) on mobile devices.  Probably an insignificant number, but still needs to be mentioned

And numbers are strikingly similar for global users.  Not surprising though because the US makes up the largest chunk of users for X.

But there is no data from any reliable source showing anything other than the number of users being in decline.  Certainly not growing.

[Scrambler_S]

Love what Elon has been doing for X, hopefully Youtube / Google gets taken over next.  Actually maybe Facebook/IG next, Suckerberg recently and finally confessed to censoring things for current administration (smart people have known this the whole time). Super DB move.

Yep, I too love that he's running it straight into the ground, most social media is a cancer.

Companies censor things all the time for all sorts of reasons (including especially X), the world isn't always black and white and you really need to stop buying into all the rage bait your media (and Elon) is feeding you.  Every website censors, all of them. Every. Single. One. Where is your rage for that, stop letting your media tell you who to be mad at.

As for "smart people", a megaphone doesn't make you smart it only makes you louder than the people around you. Confirmation bias (and Dunning-Kruger) does the rest.

None of what you said is even remotely true, he fired the cancer that worked there and it's got more users now more than ever.  Hilarious take though, thanks for the laugh.

I don't know about "everything" being untrue.  Some of it might be informed opinion.  However, you stated that "it's got more users now more than ever" which is false.  Every research firm and Musk himself can attest to the fact that X does indeed have less users now then when he took over.  In fact, most social media platforms have stagnated, but none as rapidly as X


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Note: These numbers don't account for people using the website (not the app) on mobile devices.  Probably an insignificant number, but still needs to be mentioned

And numbers are strikingly similar for global users.  Not surprising though because the US makes up the largest chunk of users for X.

But there is no data from any reliable source showing anything other than the number of users being in decline.  Certainly not growing.

https://backlinko.com/twitter-users#twitter-statistics

Depends which source you believe. I tend to disbelieve the anti-Elon bunch. The same derps who thought Twitter would be done in 2 months.  And yet Twitter is still here and is the beacon of free speech when it comes to social media these days.  Meanwhile Zuckerberg writing letters to the White House "apologizing" for things smart people already knew in the beginning.

[pixelpusher]

Maybe I’m reading it wrong, but the page you linked seems to have no data from after Musk took over.   As the article states, since he purchased twitter, the company mostly stopped sharing this info.  What data point are you seeing that shows user growth for X under new management?

[Surefoot]

Twitter is still here and is the beacon of free speech when it comes to social media these days.

Lol. It's everything but. Censorship on Twitter is rampant, only to give voice to nazis and their cohorts. But let's keep it simple: tell us, what happened to that account who was tracking Elon's private jet ?

[TomahawkLabs]

What I don’t understand is why people are so set on “free speech absolutism” when it comes to private enterprise? If I’m an advertiser, I why would I pick the platform that openly welcomes hate speech and literal Nazis under the umbrella of “free speech”? I’d rather pick a platform that has community guidelines that make the platform “brand safe”.

People quickly forgot he made an offer and waived due diligence only to find out it was a colossally bad business move, tried to sue to get out of the sale and was stuck buying it. Then he complains that people and advertisers no longer want to use the platform and is suing because his purchase is a massive failure because people don’t want to put ads on his platform.

[noisyturtle]

Musk is an absolute joke and embarrassment compared to who he used to be. If he weren't a billionaire, he'd be a lolcow. Or in prison.

[fohat.digs]

who he used to be

Electric cars and reusable rocket launchers were great ideas that nobody else was pursuing at the time, and he struck it rich.

Buying a "social media platform" was a vanity move and wrecking it was transcendently stupid, but it gave his ego a big stroke for a minute or so.

[noisyturtle]

who he used to be

Electric cars and reusable rocket launchers were great ideas that nobody else was pursuing at the time, and he struck it rich.

Buying a "social media platform" was a vanity move and wrecking it was transcendently stupid, but it gave his ego a big stroke for a minute or so.

Yes, I am waiting for someone to slap a 'greatest hits' of the last 10 years together and make a short documentary on Musk's decline, and gradual slide into egotistical crazy town.

[Surefoot]

Yes, I am waiting for someone to slap a 'greatest hits' of the last 10 years together and make a short documentary on Musk's decline, and gradual slide into egotistical crazy town.

It was rather quick IIRC about when his son became his daughter and his wife left him. I've seen people utterly destroyed by losing their wife, I suppose this was the effect on someone who was clearly displaying narcissistic tendencies and who was somewhere on the spectrum (his early interviews, before his hair implants, are revealing) so not a shining example of mental stability to start with...

[Morbii]

I think it was all smoke and mirrors from the start. 

He was born a rich white man into Apartheid, fell further upwards with help of his father, and built up a PR image that was the complete opposite of the man.  This brought in tons of wide-eyed, naive, young, smart people to actually (sorta, in most cases) build the **** that he saw watching sci-fi as a child, all buttressed by choosing areas where the taxpayer will send endless funds whether they want to or not.  Space-X would have been nothing without the NASA co-founder, Tom Mueller, and the work that NASA already did with the DC-X program. 

I'd be very surprised if the original "master plan" from 2006 that saw the Model 3 and Model Y come to fruition was actually his; no way that wasn't from the original founders and pilfered like everything else.  Everything fell off the rails when he diverged from the plan with the CyberTruck, because obviously.  And this doesn't even get into all the self-dealing, family bailouts, etc.

Twitter is just an example of what happens when you remove all his handlers and all the people that know what they're doing in his direct sphere that hijack his demands.  That it's still running is testament to the original developers and the H1-B slaves currently still working there.  It really is one of those marvels where everything good is unrelated to the man, and everything bad is directly the fault of.

That's my take, anyway.  Known fraudster for decades in some circles, much like Trump.

[Leslieann]

Electric cars and reusable rocket launchers were great ideas that nobody else was pursuing at the time, and he struck it rich.

He didn't found/invent Tesla, he bought into it*, had the owners agree to make it look like he was a co-founder to help raise investor money then pushed them out.  Until Covid, Tesla made almost all of it's profit from crypto schemes (pumping Doge coin) and solar cells/battery backups. The first real profit from the cars came during Covid by being the only company who worked through quarantine and therefore having inventory to sell unlike most other companies. Not only did this decimate workers at the factory, it's what kicked off the fight between him and California ultimately leading to him moving it to Texas and eliminating most of the automotive engineers who could have helped ensure Cybertruck wasn't such a failure.

Take away the government contracts and SpaceX is dead.
Reusable is not an original idea only the way that they do it. The reason most don't do it (especially how he does) is because it adds complexity and takes extra fuel to return, that fuel means a LOT of extra weight on takeoff and you still need to rebuild the vehicle after each flight. It limits carrying capacity, requires a bigger launch platform and it's not really as cost effective as it's made out to be. All of this was why the Space Shuttle was so problematic and pushed everyone back to non-reusable.

*A similar thing happened at Pay Pal, he wasn't just some programmer like he claims, he invested in it. In fact the investment company was named X, which is how he happened to own the X domain name Twitter now uses.

Like Morbil said, it's all smoke and mirrors to pump his bank account and ego. He didn't strike it rich, he was always rich, it just made him more rich.

[fohat.digs]

Electric cars and reusable rocket launchers were great ideas that nobody else was pursuing at the time, and he struck it rich.

He didn't found/invent Tesla, he bought into it

Take away the government contracts and subsidies and SpaceX  all of it is dead.

Reusable is not an original idea .... he invested in it

He didn't strike it rich, he was always rich, it just made him more rich.

Yes to all of the above. I never intended to sound like ANY of these ideas were actually his, but they were kicking around out there and he recognized that if he could pump in the money to get them into the game, they could make him a lot of profit.

I have never used ketamine (and have no desire to) but heavy long-term use cannot possibly be good for the mind. Just sayin'

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/tech/elon-musk-ketamine-use-don-lemon-interview/index.html

[Scrambler_S]

Lol looks like Elon living rent free inside the roomy skulls of many here.

[TomahawkLabs]

Lol looks like Elon living rent free inside the roomy skulls of many here.

What a way to respond to criticism. You have no defense towards any of the points levied against Elon. Elon is a public figure who is in the news cycle weekly if not daily. Of course those who pay attention to the news will see information regarding Elon. I also have knowledge of Barack Obama, Tom Delonge, Alton Brown, and Steve Jobs. Information regarding them also resides in my brain without the monthly invoice to said public figure. The fact of the matter is Elon's companies survive off government subsidies (EV Tax credits, Govt contracts, etc), but at the same time he is chomping at the bit to start cutting social programs if Trump is re-elected. How anyone can look at this hypocrisy at still think Elon is some kind of "high value male" is beyond me. He uses taxpayer money to grow his wealth. But if you were to do that, you are a leech on the system.

Elon doesn't invent, he buys into companies that already have some legs and grows them. He isn't worthless, but to think Elon is sitting in a CAD program designing the physical car or rocket is silly. He also isn't sitting in front of a monitor drinking Red Bulls coding for 14 hours a day. He sits in calls and in meetings delegating tasks and getting updates. People wouldn't invest with him if they didn't think he could make money. Elon can exist on the spectrum of complete idiot and once in a generation thinker without having to be firmly on one end. The fact that Elon's fanbase cannot stand criticism and would rather live in a world where Elon can do no wrong is the problem. Being born on second base isn't the same has hitting a double.

[Scrambler_S]

Lol looks like Elon living rent free inside the roomy skulls of many here.

What a way to respond to criticism. You have no defense towards any of the points levied against Elon. Elon is a public figure who is in the news cycle weekly if not daily. Of course those who pay attention to the news will see information regarding Elon. I also have knowledge of Barack Obama, Tom Delonge, Alton Brown, and Steve Jobs. Information regarding them also resides in my brain without the monthly invoice to said public figure. The fact of the matter is Elon's companies survive off government subsidies (EV Tax credits, Govt contracts, etc), but at the same time he is chomping at the bit to start cutting social programs if Trump is re-elected. How anyone can look at this hypocrisy at still think Elon is some kind of "high value male" is beyond me. He uses taxpayer money to grow his wealth. But if you were to do that, you are a leech on the system.

Elon doesn't invent, he buys into companies that already have some legs and grows them. He isn't worthless, but to think Elon is sitting in a CAD program designing the physical car or rocket is silly. He also isn't sitting in front of a monitor drinking Red Bulls coding for 14 hours a day. He sits in calls and in meetings delegating tasks and getting updates. People wouldn't invest with him if they didn't think he could make money. Elon can exist on the spectrum of complete idiot and once in a generation thinker without having to be firmly on one end. The fact that Elon's fanbase cannot stand criticism and would rather live in a world where Elon can do no wrong is the problem. Being born on second base isn't the same has hitting a double.

Because there's nothing worth responding to, it's all trash. They source their "news" from the same mainstream media that have actively engaged in misinformation and actively target Elon and his companies since he bought out Twitter to restore FREE SPEECH.  I mean really, people are referencing Don Lemon who has thoroughly embarrassed by Elon in their interview and is so transparently disingenuous only an absolute smooth brain would believe anything he says.  RE: Subsidies , yes ALL EV companies (not just Tesla) receives them from government.  You know which CEO has publicly stated they don't need them?  OH, it's Elon!  Tesla is the only one that can function without them.  You know who else besides EV companies receive subsidies? GAS and OIL, but you see it fit to demonize Elon... HILARIOUS.

[fohat.digs]

companies receive subsidies? GAS and OIL

This one of the greatest abominations of all, if not THE greatest.

[Morbii]

We have a cult member, folks.

(I knew he was a fraud long before Twitter.)

[Surefoot]

They source their "news" from the same mainstream media that have actively engaged in misinformation and actively target Elon(...)

He targets himself just fine:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-breaks-debate-silence-with-bizarre-offer-to-impregnate-taylor-swift
That's a perfectly balanced human individual here...

he bought out Twitter to restore FREE SPEECH. 

Again, what has become of that guy who posted Musk's private jet schedule ? Heck he even censored the f-ing Associated Press ! "free speech" is only for him and his cronies, not for anyone else.