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Offline wellington1869

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« on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 12:25:54 »
i'm talking about this:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/10/21/france.pension.strikes/index.html?hpt=T1

I truly dont get this -- destroying your own country as part of your 'protest'. This, by the way, this kind of behaviour on the part of the french public (and especially their "left"/radical groups run wild), is something of a tradition in france, when they 'protest'.

I have to say I have less and less respect for the french with each passing year. It began with french postmodernism. Ugh. Wtf is wrong with their intellectuals, never mind their public?!

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« Reply #1 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 12:36:39 »
This is what happens in socialism when you give the people too much, then realize you can't afford it and try to scale back. You can't get something for nothing - it's just not realistic.

As to answering your question - I have no idea. The world may never know.

These type of riots aren't unique to France though. I've heard of similar ones throughout Europe.

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« Reply #2 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 12:37:14 »
Define destroying their country?  They aren't destroying the people or the land.  It can't be good for their economy, I'll grant you that, but it isn't unrecoverable.
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« Reply #3 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 12:42:20 »
Ripster, you can't ignore French cooking and I'm not talking about frog legs or escargot, I'm talking about basics like use real butter and heavy cream.
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« Reply #4 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 12:48:06 »
Actually this is not typical behaviour for the French. They actually have a reason to be upset this time! Normally they strike for no reason other than the fact they haven't had one for a while. They do enjoy re-enacting their Revolution, the French.

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« Reply #5 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 13:05:04 »
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Normally they strike for no reason other than the fact they haven't had one for a while.

lol

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They do enjoy re-enacting their Revolution, the French.


so true, so true. I read stories of mob violence during the french revolution, it was really stunning stuff, incredibly random and sadistic violence by roaming mobs of ordinary people.

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 They actually have a reason to be upset this time!

yea, their precious retirement age is going to go up by a mere 2 years. Time to destroy the country!!!
Morons. How the hell do they expect to compete with the chinese? The french have the cushiest labor laws known to mankind (something like 2 months of vacation off each year, and retirement at 60?! At a time when lifespans have increased to almost 80, if not more).

They want their 20 years of pension! Time to destroy the airport and oil refineries!  Yea, thats going to help pay that pension.

Morons.
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« Reply #6 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 13:10:59 »
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Define destroying their country?  They aren't destroying the people or the land.  It can't be good for their economy, I'll grant you that, but it isn't unrecoverable.


they're blocking commerce (airports, oil refineries) and doing general mob violence (setting fires, destroying shops). Ordinary people depend on all those things, and so do they, ultimately, themselves. They're also giving the french democratic process itself the finger.  I'm a believer that if you want change and live in a democracy, then you have to work through the system because thats what its there for, and not resort to violence.

The french have long since abandoned any real faith in enlightenment humanism or democracy. Which is a real pity and a shame. They've turned into violent tribalists themselves.

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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 13:12:07 »
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These type of riots aren't unique to France though. I've heard of similar ones throughout Europe.


true, tho i think its only the french who take such pride in it ;) Among western democracies anyway.

I hope Sarkozy brings the hammer down on them. He's promised to do just that. I'll be rooting for him in this instance even if I wouldnt have voted for him.

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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 13:14:30 »
French rioters...aren't they about the same age as OCN mods?

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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 13:42:13 »
i find it much LOL that the kids are there basically saying "GTFO old man and retire so i can take over your job"

but the old and young alike can protest on common ground.

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« Reply #10 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 13:45:42 »
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yea, their precious retirement age is going to go up by a mere 2 years. Time to destroy the country!!!
Hyperbole is not the ally of reasonable discourse.

I think that would be a pretty big deal even in the US; a lot of people would be pissed if we raised the retirement age. And like the US, a lot of French people feel that the government no longer represents the interests of their constituents. Shutting down basic services is a way for regular people to leverage the political process, just as worker strikes are a way for unions to leverage compensation. To demonize it is missing the point - strikes are supposed to cripple the institution they target, as a method of forcing change.



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« Reply #11 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 13:53:36 »
it would be a big deal in the US -- the difference is how we would *react*.

In the US, we would run really nasty ads destroying people's public careers.

We would "march on washington" and hold a day of speeches on the steps of the lincoln memorial.

We would not destroy texas oil refineries and block Dulles airport.  Look at even the tea party, the worst of the worst in american politics.

what do they do? say nasty things and occasionally have a march.

there's your answer about the freaking *difference* between the french and the rest.

I consider french rioting to be "hyperbole", and you're right, it does nothing to help Reason or Discourse.

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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 13:55:36 »
btw ppl have a right to complain if it is like social security here in the states, before you can even cash your check the government holds you up and say, "i'll take this amount for social security, cuz your too dumb to save and it'll be useful 40years later, i'll take this amount in case your fired cuz your too dumb to save and it'll be good for unemployment later, and i'll take this amount for medicare cuz no regular person can qualify for regular insurance"

then yea they have a right to complain.

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 13:57:46 »
It should be a big deal everywhere they're doing it (it's being discussed in the UK too.) It is, in effect, the government reneging on a contract: they took your income tax and National Insurance contrbutions (UK) during all your working life, then they decide, oh wait, we changed our mind, you're not going to get the pension we agreed to until a few years later. Of course they need to balance what they take from working people and give to pensioners, but it's bang out of order to take your earnings off you for decades then change their obligations later.

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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 14:03:59 »
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then yea they have a right to complain.


ya, but setting fires, destroying stores, blocking the nation's oil supply (the french govt had to resort to their emergency stores of oil), and blocking the airports, is not "complaining". Its plain and simple rioting.

in this regard the americans are *far* more /civilized/ than the french, when it comes to politics.

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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 14:06:46 »
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This pic reminds me of the best technology the French have ever produced.

My son and I built TWO of them.
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Germans appreciate good technology.  In 1933 Adolf Hitler had a guillotine constructed/tested and was impressed enough to order 20 more constructed.  As a result more people were guillotined in Germany during Hitler’s time than in France during the whole of the French revolution.

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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 14:15:26 »
but never mind the inherent barbarity of the french.

i have issues with the underlying 'complaint'.  Is 2 years more of work really that bad?

or are the french /both/ lazy *and* barbarous?

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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 14:16:56 »
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or are the french /both/ lazy *and* barbarous?


In a word, yes. Guillotines require very little manual work.

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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 15:32:43 »
It's just sad how people are just letting these rioters trespass on and destroy their property. If anybody, rioters or not, was posing a significant threat to me or my property (i. e. setting it on fire, throwing rocks through the windows) I'd shoot them, or at least shoot at them to scare them (I'd have No Trespassing signs posted of course).
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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 16:30:35 »
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To demonize it is missing the point - strikes are supposed to cripple the institution they target, as a method of forcing change.
One of these things the rioters are doing is burning people's cars. Those cars cost money. Vandalism which targets private individuals, not huge corporations that can just pass the cost along as a tiny markup in their prices, ought to be condemned unreservedly.

France is a democracy. They can vote - and expecting the impossible from the government, expecting the money to pay for pensions to come from nowhere is something that won't get far no matter what you do.

Still, it is also true that a retirement age of 60 is a desirable thing to achieve. But it will require sound economic planning to do so - and an appropriate way to invest the money in the national pension plan, where it won't disappear if the stock market crashes.

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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 16:33:15 »
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in this regard the americans are *far* more /civilized/ than the french, when it comes to politics.

whose debating about which country is more civilized? i mean one country doesn't make their women shave their armpits... pretty barbaric!

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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 16:35:21 »
They should helping the [strike]occu[/strike]liberation of Iraq too.

Cheese-loving bastards.

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 16:36:03 »
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In a word, yes. Guillotines require very little manual work.

But they were designed to be humane.

If you can think of a more humane way to entertain an angry mob, I'd like to know about it.

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whose debating about which country is more civilized? i mean one country doesn't make their women shave their armpits... pretty barbaric!

Yeah. French women don't even have to shave their moustaches.
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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 16:54:17 »
The money for pensions doesn't come from nowhere, it comes from a, by American standards, rather heavy taxation .
What is pissing people off is the fact that WE have to pay for the criminal banksters wrongdoings and it's bleeding our societies to death .

I dislike the way some of you are taking cheap shots at the French,
I suggest somebody stops this BS now....
Unless you want to see me taking cheap shots at America and Lord knows that ain't difficult
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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 17:23:55 »

1992. 700 businesses burned in LA.

Sure, there's been riots pretty much everywhere. But there's something about the structure of French society that's bred a large number of people ready and willing to protest (which is fair enough), and also quite a number that will take any opportunity to riot. Generally, they aren't the same people! But somehow the former facilitate the latter - 'I wasn't stealing a 50" plasma, I was protesting'.

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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 17:42:12 »
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The money for pensions doesn't come from nowhere, it comes from a, by American standards, rather heavy taxation .
What is pissing people off is the fact that WE have to pay for the criminal banksters wrongdoings and it's bleeding our societies to death .

I dislike the way some of you are taking cheap shots at the French,
I suggest somebody stops this BS now....
Unless you want to see me taking cheap shots at America and Lord knows that ain't difficult
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Sorry to rain on your "French 'Protest'" parade, but you're a complete idiot when it comes to discussing politics. How about you learn some facts before you start bashing America again.
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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 17:42:47 »
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1992. 700 businesses burned in LA.

Sure, there's been riots pretty much everywhere. But there's something about the structure of French society that's bred a large number of people ready and willing to protest (which is fair enough), and also quite a number that will take any opportunity to riot. Generally, they aren't the same people! But somehow the former facilitate the latter - 'I wasn't stealing a 50" plasma, I was protesting'.


Moral of the story? Protect your property. Don't let people burn it down.
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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 19:16:51 »
I know a lot of people probably don't like Rush Limbaugh, but he has a very good point here.


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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 19:55:51 »
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1992. 700 businesses burned in LA.



lol, do you even know why the LA riots happened? These are completely different situations. I'm not saying riots only happen in france. My point is the REASON for those riots -- its the REASON that is idiotic!

Lets be clear: the  LA rioters were not "opposing" legislation that was working its way through congress!!!!!!!!!!  This is what the french are doing with their riots. This isnt spontaneous racial tensions, or oppressed poor. These people are rioting over a bill about the national retirement age that has been deliberated and debated to death in the french public sphere and made its way through all the legal channels in the french governmental system.

That is what makes the french riots so asinine. Its not even a spontaneous response. Its basically "political speech', by extremely priveleged people, and its profoundly undemocratic and violent.

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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 20:21:33 »
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I dislike the way some of you are taking cheap shots at the French,

hey, i'll take cheap shots at any highly-priveleged group that goes on a meaningless violent and senseless rampage.  And i'll do it with a sense of righteousness too. I dont care if they're french or other.

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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 20:23:12 »
I maintain that the ordinary french  person is the most spoiled person in the western world. And has no appreciation of what they do have.

and i find it hilarious that they think they have something on the americans.

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« Reply #32 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 20:31:24 »
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I maintain that the ordinary french  person is the most spoiled person in the western world. And has no appreciation of what they do have.

and i find it hilarious that they think they have something on the americans.


I've met a lot of French people over the years and while I don't know that I can agree with this, I have found something just a bit off about the majority of the ones I met. The few that I've met that I liked were much more 'international' and open-minded in general about different countries/culture, including America.

In short, there are *******s everywhere and nice folks everywhere. Our cultures are the main things that differ, but when you look closer, you often find a lot of similarities that you overlooked.

So let's all sing some "kumbaya" y'all =)


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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 20:34:44 »
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You haven't met many Jewish American Princesses in NYC have you?


I stand corrected :P

Tho until a legion of JAP's shut down JFK and the Port Authority, overturn cars and set them on fire, and break into stores, over a small reduction in their allowance money, I cannot and will not criticize them on the same terms. :P

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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 20:50:21 »
So the UK is also about to face a series of "austerity measures", cutbacks in government programs.  Lets see how they react. I'll bet the reaction there will be quite different from the french. They'll write irritated letters to the BBC or something. Thats civilization.

Culture matters.

Just like when earthquakes happen in japan, and there's like virtually no looting or rioting (unlike, say, california ;).  

Culture matters. French culture really blows sometimes. Especially their political culture. Blows more than american political culture. Americans havent had a good political riot since like 1968.  Today we "march". Thats progress. Better than france.

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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 21:02:17 »
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So the UK is also about to face a series of "austerity measures", cutbacks in government programs.  Lets see how they react. I'll bet the reaction there will be quite different from the french. They'll write irritated letters to the BBC or something. Thats civilization.


I'm not surprised. You wouldn't believe some of the things that government spends their money on. If you don't have a job, you still get an apartment, stipend and free healthcare. You can't get something for nothing.

But some things are free, as in free beer.


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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 21:56:45 »
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lol, do you even know why the LA riots happened? These are completely different situations. I'm not saying riots only happen in france. My point is the REASON for those riots -- its the REASON that is idiotic!

Lets be clear: the  LA rioters were not "opposing" legislation that was working its way through congress!!!!!!!!!!  This is what the french are doing with their riots. This isnt spontaneous racial tensions, or oppressed poor. These people are rioting over a bill about the national retirement age that has been deliberated and debated to death in the french public sphere and made its way through all the legal channels in the french governmental system.

That is what makes the french riots so asinine. Its not even a spontaneous response. Its basically "political speech', by extremely priveleged people, and its profoundly undemocratic and violent.


Let me be absolutely clear: you completely misunderstood my post. Of course I know why the LA riots happened. Sheesh. Perhaps if you reread my post without assuming I'm a dumbass you'd understand what I was saying!

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 21 October 2010, 23:49:20 »
Rawr, anger.

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« Reply #38 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 03:01:20 »
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Let me be absolutely clear: you completely misunderstood my post. Of course I know why the LA riots happened. Sheesh. Perhaps if you reread my post without assuming I'm a dumbass you'd understand what I was saying!


ok, i read thru till the third sentence this time,and you are correct, you are not a dumbass. So I retract my earlier snarky comment :)  My apologies.

hey, i'm a busy man ;)

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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 03:02:09 »
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Rawr, anger.


lol. grumble grumble righteous indignance.

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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 05:03:45 »
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It's just sad how people are just letting these rioters trespass on and destroy their property. If anybody, rioters or not, was posing a significant threat to me or my property (i. e. setting it on fire, throwing rocks through the windows) I'd shoot them, or at least shoot at them to scare them (I'd have No Trespassing signs posted of course).


You should move to Somalia. Sounds like your kind of place...

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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 07:10:10 »
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ok, i read thru till the third sentence this time,and you are correct, you are not a dumbass. So I retract my earlier snarky comment :)  My apologies.

hey, i'm a busy man ;)


LOL. OK. One thing though - I didn't say I wasn't a dumbass :-D

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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 10:44:25 »
The thing is, of course, in a riot like that, the police are justly concerned that if they use deadly force to protect property, they will escalate the situation.

Of course, I would expect the police to be present in sufficient number, sufficiently well armed, that they could deal with any conceivable escalation. There's a riot? Stop it before any innocent person is injured or suffers property damage, or at least as soon as the first such incident takes place. The crowd tries to turn on the police? No problem.

They can either surrender peacefully, or they can be shot where they stand. What they can't do is succeed in making a nuisance of themselves, no matter how hard they try.

Ordinary, honest citizens know: you don't break things that don't belong to you. If you're not one of them, what happens to you is your own fault, and no one cares.

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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:10:34 »
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LOL. OK. One thing though - I didn't say I wasn't a dumbass :-D


well lets just say there's no "evidence" for it yet ;)

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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:15:52 »
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The thing is, of course, in a riot like that, the police are justly concerned that if they use deadly force to protect property, they will escalate the situation.



and a lot of these career rioters (a lot of them being middle class student 'activists', by the way) make provoking the police into a fine art. They *want* some kind of reaction so they can claim victimhood afterwards. And sue the city for several million which the city will settle for 50 grand cuz its cheaper than hiring the lawyers. Its such a crock of ****. All in the name of supposed justice and activism. Bull. If they really cared about these issues (or cared about justice) they'd go thru the proper legal channels, not riot in the street.

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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:19:39 »
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and a lot of these career rioters (a lot of them being middle class student 'activists', by the way) make provoking the police into a fine art. They *want* some kind of reaction so they can claim victimhood afterwards. And sue the city for several million which the city will settle for 50 grand cuz its cheaper than hiring the lawyers. Its such a crock of ****.


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« Reply #46 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:29:23 »
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Toronto G20 anyone?


ya the WTO 'activists' seem truly professional in this regard.  Eco-terrorists can be similar too.

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« Reply #47 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:31:16 »
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and a lot of these career rioters (a lot of them being middle class student 'activists', by the way) make provoking the police into a fine art. They *want* some kind of reaction so they can claim victimhood afterwards. And sue the city for several million which the city will settle for 50 grand cuz its cheaper than hiring the lawyers. Its such a crock of ****. All in the name of supposed justice and activism. Bull. If they really cared about these issues (or cared about justice) they'd go thru the proper legal channels, not riot in the street.


Pretty sure the rioters just want to break into establishments and loot and scoot.
thats why i advocate that band of korean store owners in korea town, they took care of business!
but then the looters were still brazen, you see that they still tried to come and loot even tho you have ex military angry koreans brandishing firearms.
la looters know no fear! these pissy french need to learn from LA

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« Reply #48 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:37:48 »
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You should move to Somalia. Sounds like your kind of place...

LULZ! :D


1st of all:

Welly. I think that your conception of the French is a bit off. I have been there, their country shares a border with mine. I am a bit informed of our dear bretheren. The general population is piss poor. Everything there is highly centralized. If you drift away a little from Paris **** gets ugly. There are maybe a hand full of cities that come kind of close to the living standards of Paris but after that there is a huge emptyness.
I would go so far as to call the majority of the French nation as below average poor compared to countries like Belgium, Germany, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Austria, all the nordic nations (!!!) and even the UK (and the UK are not close in terms of common wealth to any of the aforementioned nations in the EU).
Combine with that that in Paris u have all those pretty "suburbs" which are basically ghettos where all the working people are stuck (which is ****in stupid to begin with but hey, it's the french). There is a HUGE part of the parisian population (which actually doesn't live in Paris but the annexed towns/villages which are now called suburbs and they are generally not regarded as "parisians" either by those who actually live in Paris) that is piss poor, unemployed and abused as working mules.

Combine this new outlook of the common French's wealth with the following 2 things:

1) The French Revolution HAD TO be achieved through the uprising of the "commoner" and through the use of brute force. No other measure worked. It was a huge success and had a huge impact on the life of everyone in western society. Yes I said it, without the French revolution, you Americans wouldn't have had the pleasure to fake-elect that ****in mornon.... TWICE!
Also do not forget that aside from being a HUGE deal, which I honestly believe most Americans simply cannot grasp, the French people are also being reminded CONSTANTLY what the whole world owes them for their revolution and congratulates them for showing that much courage etc. blabla (the French love to be flattered like that and never get enough of it).

So to recap: The last time you and all the other "commoners" were getting screwed just a little bit too much by the man, you assembled, you kicked ass, you beheaded and everything went uphill from there. Back then, all the "commoners" in the other nations around you were too much of pussies to do the same thing or even think about it. But lucky for them, their governments (i.e. monarchies, kings n **** y'know) were just pissing their pants too much from all those barbaric acts in France to continue the old course. They either gave their power away or steered towards a much more moderate course of screwing the "commoners".
As a result, since your Revolution, all those other "**** nations" are extremely grateful for your show of balls and have continued to remind you for centuries just how big your humongous balls are (because they know you like it, you have made sure they know ;) ).

Now we get to the next point to consider in the equasion:

2) The recent financial crisis which has shown quite obviously how the banksters have been and thanks to our governemtns are continuously screwing us "commoners".
Now in the eyes of the French, they might just be screwing us a liiiiiittle bit too much. And what have we learned in the past? That's right, in these situations, uniting with the other commoners as a nation, kicking ass, rioting and beheading a bit should yield good results. I mean they kept telling us how big our balls were for doing it last time for centuries!


Honestly, I am surprised that not more nations are rioting considering just how we got ****ed in the ass by those mega corps (banks, insurances, rating agencies, you name it) and their lobbies ALL THE WHILE THE GOVERNMENT DID NOTHING TO PROTECT US. On the contrary, they gave them OUR MONEY to SAVE THEM because they screwed up screwing us up !!!!

And now, to top it all off, the idiotic Sarkozy tells the French population shortly after that they should work 2 more years in their life to pay for what exactly ????? °


Say about the French what you want (and I say a lot of nasty stuff about them too because they suck). But they are WAY more capable of connecting the dots in politics than just about any other nation, ESPECIALLY the Americans! ! ! ! !


The way they riot is something else, but big groups of people always result in all the people doing crazy and stupid things. Especially if it is a big group of ANGRY people. Now add the fact that those people are proud to be a raging, angry mob and **** **** up because they have been told for centuries that they are awesome for doing so in the past and the new riots are what u get.


*breathes in and does some Tai Chi*
phew, fell into some kind of rant towards the end there ;)


°smart governments like the one from that sleezy palpatine-like German ***** will wait a while longer before they let the general population feel what they have to endure in order to pay the receipt for that gift to the finance lobby
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« Reply #49 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:55:13 »
cartman, that was very long, but unlike a lot of the philistines around here who would say "tl;dr", i'm going to actually read the entire thing before responding. (I only skip over short ones, lol).

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