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Offline kennnyshiwa

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[IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« on: Tue, 22 April 2025, 17:49:04 »
SA Teletype 40s Oriented Uniform R3



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SA Teletype is a KSR-28 inspired 40s oriented set in a Uniform SA R3 profile! The colors, legends and red accents are all homages to the original KSR-28!

Designed by Piperaceae to fit most modern 40s keyboard!

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I N S P I R A T I O N


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K I T T I N G


40s Monokit

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P R I C I N G

Pricing is still being determined, many of the mods are new mods which may affect the price. Currently soliciting feedback on the kitting and then will finalize some pricing

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V E N D O R S

US: SaberKeebs
EU: Keeb Supply

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R E N D E R S

Renders made with a variety of 40s sized boards to show the different mods and red accents.






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Offline kennnyshiwa

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 22 April 2025, 17:50:28 »
SA color chip selections below. These colors come close to matching the original KSR-28 as best as we can.



4/23/25: Updated renders to reflect some of the newer kitting changes from our original design.







4/24/25: Updated renders to reflect some of the newer kitting changes from our original design.

Kitting updated to reflect some changes to legend availability and user feedback.

Changed all instances of CR and Return to Line Feed (pending SP confirming this legend exists in all the necessary sizes)
Changed red 1u Line Feed to Read
Changed one 1.5u System to Compose
Changed one 1u Sys to Compose
Changed one 1.25u Sys to Over Ride
Changed 1.5u Backspace legend to span two lines
Moved some keys around on the render to look nicer/make more sense
Kitting image updated to reflect more color accuracy.




4/24/25 Part 2!: Updated kitting to include 2 40s novelty keycaps.

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Offline Piperaceae

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 23 April 2025, 19:11:18 »
Yay! So excited to do my first 40s-oriented set!

Offline DirtyGingy

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 23 April 2025, 19:44:40 »
I have a few boards built with 80s/90s teletype caps. I wonder if people would like an option for the non-40s space

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 24 April 2025, 08:23:14 »
I love the colors.
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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 24 April 2025, 08:41:45 »
the five people who are still willing to buy 40s exclusive sets are gonna go nutso over this one
just too bad three of them don't like sa

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 24 April 2025, 11:32:14 »
I'm happy to report that there are apparently many, many more 40s SA fans out there than you think, if the feedback form responses so far are anything to go on.

Offline kennnyshiwa

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 24 April 2025, 13:44:38 »
I have a few boards built with 80s/90s teletype caps. I wonder if people would like an option for the non-40s space

After SA Teletype 40s is ran this might be something I'm willing to explore, though depends on how many folks are interested. 40s folk seem to love the colorway and vintage inspiration so its possible a larger set would do well too.

Offline kennnyshiwa

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 24 April 2025, 13:46:22 »
I love the colors.

Thanks!! The colorway and vintage inspiration are what drew me to work with Piper to run this!

Offline rowie

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 24 April 2025, 16:28:56 »
Love it! Would love some matching deskmats and metal artisans would be nice. ETA, I got excited and didn’t read the fine print for 40s. I guess I may not join since I don’t use 40s layout.
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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 24 April 2025, 18:46:40 »
I wouldn't be shocked if the 40s community competes with the broader community in terms of the number of sets they run each year. Yes, they might be smaller and not on people's radar, but there is a lot of variety in that space.

I suspect this set will do well, even though I am sad it's smol keyboard only and uniform SA. GLWIC!

Offline Piperaceae

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 24 April 2025, 19:06:17 »
Mike from the 40% Discord has given me the SVG for their logo, and permission to use the artwork. So we'll be commissioning a new SA legend for it as part of this set (it already exists in DSS and DSA).



This will be the first SA set to have it available, in the red and teal colors, but going forward the legend will be there for future sets to make use of.

Offline kennnyshiwa

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 24 April 2025, 19:13:56 »
Mike from the 40% Discord has given me the SVG for their logo, and permission to use the artwork. So we'll be commissioning a new SA legend for it as part of this set (it already exists in DSS and DSA).

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This will be the first SA set to have it available, in the red and teal colors, but going forward the legend will be there for future sets to make use of.

Mannn these are gonna good on SA!

Offline Piperaceae

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 25 April 2025, 06:56:21 »
Here's the 40% key in context; more updated board renders coming soon!


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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 25 April 2025, 09:15:28 »
Just take my cash already guys
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Offline kennnyshiwa

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
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Offline nickthaskater

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 25 April 2025, 13:17:35 »
This set plus the OG40 would be pretty choice.

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 25 April 2025, 13:43:29 »
This set plus the OG40 would be pretty choice.
This is my exact plan! Great minds think alike :)

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 25 April 2025, 14:20:22 »
I have a few boards built with 80s/90s teletype caps. I wonder if people would like an option for the non-40s space

After SA Teletype 40s is ran this might be something I'm willing to explore, though depends on how many folks are interested. 40s folk seem to love the colorway and vintage inspiration so its possible a larger set would do well too.

If you go ISO and split both Backspace and RShift, there's already enough here to make a 60% with an unusual numrow.  ANSI is tougher, but splitting everything you can and settling for a convex Enter key would do it I think.

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 25 April 2025, 22:36:52 »
Please add a Full Size Addon kit so people like me who use larger layouts can enjoy this awesome theme.

Something like this:

ver2: removed second B, could use 1.75u COMPOSE for Caps Lock
ver3: revised FN row
« Last Edit: Sat, 26 April 2025, 06:47:23 by dvorcol »

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 25 April 2025, 22:57:58 »
Good kit dvorcol


Offline Piperaceae

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 26 April 2025, 06:28:07 »
One issue with supporting bigger boards is the Shift legends needed don't exist above 1.75u, and would have to be made new; we're aiming for zero new legend plates (asides from the 40% Discord key, which will be used across future sets). Line Feed doesn't exist in 2.25u either, according to SP.

We've gone back and forth with them, having them research numerous ideas for potential terminal-themed Shift and Enter legends. And while they have a ton of Shift alternatives for 40's-sized keys, none existed in sizes larger than 1.75u.

We had them look up pretty much every variation of CR, Car Ret, Carriage Return, and Line Feed. Line Feed itself was the only one to come in all sizes between 1u and 1.75u, and none of them came any bigger. There have just been a lot of private 40s runs over the years that have padded out legend availability in smaller sizes.

Another issue is that a monokit is appealing to vendors who don't want to worry about a child kit hitting MOQ, or being orphaned when the base sells out. Yes, there could be two full bases - 40% and 100% - but the market isn't what it was back when sets with two bases could succeed. Both SA Maestro bases are still in stock, heavily discounted, today; that's a 2021 set. There have been GMK sets with two bases, but SP's numbers have never been anywhere near those of GMK. SA is niche, and SA R3 is even nicher.

The lead vendor on this is a 40%-specific shop, and isn't likely to get a lot of traffic from people with larger boards. When I drew up a full version of the kitting that could cover 100% boards several months ago, vendors balked at the weird legends, and weren't interested in carrying it. All I heard, even if I stuck to existing legends, was that full-size board owners wouldn't buy sets with nonstandard legends, and vendors didn't want to risk it. It was only when I cut it back to 40's-oriented that it got any vendors or support behind it.

So this is likely pretty to remain a small run, 40s/ortho exclusive. And that's okay. I appreciate the love this set is receiving, and I'm sorry that folks with larger boards are getting left out this time around. I do have other sets coming up with broad, inclusive kitting, albeit with more standard legends that vendors won't be spooked by.
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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 27 April 2025, 10:28:50 »
Had a question about how the teal in Teletype compares with 8010.



The 8010 blue is on the top, Teletype's is on the bottom. Teletype is much darker and greener.

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 27 April 2025, 10:35:22 »
Had a question about how the teal in Teletype compares with 8010.

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The 8010 blue is on the top, Teletype's is on the bottom. Teletype is much darker and greener.

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Re: [IC] SA Teletype | 40s oriented Uniform SA R3
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 20 May 2025, 05:40:42 »
Some new renders on a MEGACORP Discretion, courtesy of RubyBuilds

   

And on a WY40 by 5x-Rhadamanthus



GB details are being worked out, more info hopefully coming within the next few weeks!