whats today's rant?

[Lanx]

naw he's getting turkey ass/ turkey neck and other various parts.

[wellington1869]

We're getting tired of turkey leftovers so had Pizza tonight.

we put the rest of the turkey into a 'turkey curry' over rice, came out pretty awesome.  But now we're sick of turkey curry over rice.

[Lanx]

what! liver and heart are some of the best parts!

[Lanx]

i usually make gravy with turkey drippings and heart/liver. didn't feel like it this year (turkey's juicy so no need for gravy) so i just poured the turkey drippings for the dog to eat in his bowl. He licked that bowl so clean it was like spit polished.

[RoboKrikit]

When they translate "Dog" to English, as food, they should call it "Useless Dog" instead. That way we feel better about it, plus it's funnier.

[microsoft windows]

i usually make gravy with turkey drippings and heart/liver. didn't feel like it this year (turkey's juicy so no need for gravy) so i just poured the turkey drippings for the dog to eat in his bowl. He licked that bowl so clean it was like spit polished.

I feed my chicken and turkey guts to my cats. They love it.

[quadibloc]

I am not only opposed to eating dogs and cats for food, but also to feeding elements from sheep carcasses to sheep or cattle. This is where the BSE problem came from.

Except for fish, which live in their own world somewhat biologically alien from ours, any animal the meat from which is intended for human consumption should be kept on a strictly vegetarian diet. Humans may need to eat meat, but it is dangerous to go any higher on the food chain than you have to.

Men are not vultures, able to cope with arbitrary pathogens in their food.

[msiegel]

Men are not vultures

i think you mentioned this line of reasoning before somewhere...
well, +1 to you

[wellington1869]

rant: yea bush sucked ass.

In December 2005, the Saudi king expressed his anger that the Bush administration had ignored his advice against going to war. According to a cable from the American Embassy in Riyadh, the king argued “that whereas in the past the U.S., Saudi Arabia and Saddam Hussein had agreed on the need to contain Iran, U.S. policy had now given Iraq to Iran as a ‘gift on a golden platter.’ ”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world/middleeast/29iran.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=all

[keyboardlover]

Yet if we had gone to war with Iran how would we justify it? By saying they had WMDs? Don't tell me you wouldn't have protested that as well bro

Today's rant: hypocrites suck ass.

[Lanx]

we should always be at war, since i'm past the age of being drafted!

[wellington1869]

Yet if we had gone to war with Iran how would we justify it? By saying they had WMDs? Don't tell me you wouldn't have protested that as well bro

Today's rant: hypocrites suck ass.

ah, but we didnt go to war with iran. In fact what the wikileaks cache reveals is just how much the allies including obama sought to avoid that, despite real pressure from the arab countries to do just that.

obama's approach is the right one: carrots plus threats.  We may yet go to war with iran, but it wont be on 'suspicion' of wmd and made-up evidence, bush-style. It'll be based on real evidence and wide-ass coalition including a dozen arab nations themselves fully behind it.

today's rant: straw-man arguments suck ass. bush-style.

[microsoft windows]

Give me proof that Bush lied about reasons to go to war with Iraq and made up evidence. I want real proof, not some editorial from a liberal newspaper.

[msiegel]

isn't half a politician's job manipulating the electorate into supporting unpopular actions?

it helps to be a smooth talker, or come up with something scary

[keyboardlover]

obama's approach is the right one: carrots plus threats.  We may yet go to war with iran, but it wont be on 'suspicion' of wmd and made-up evidence, bush-style. It'll be based on real evidence and wide-ass coalition including a dozen arab nations themselves fully behind it.

Oh yea? On what evidence? And who would be behind it besides Us, Saudi Arabia and Israel?

And more importantly, which countries would be against it and condemn it?

Today's rant: people who rant without getting their facts straight.

[ch_123]

Give me proof that Bush lied about reasons to go to war with Iraq and made up evidence. I want real proof, not some editorial from a liberal newspaper.

I can give it to you, but first, give me proof that Santa Claus doesn't exist.

[wellington1869]

Give me proof that Bush lied about reasons to go to war with Iraq and made up evidence. I want real proof, not some editorial from a liberal newspaper.

you mean such as bush's own quotes upstream in this very thread?

or you can read colin powell's own book where he expresses his disappointment in retrospect about the made up wmd evidence - you remember, he was the one who announced that 'evidence' to the UN. And got hung out to dry by the administration over it.

[wellington1869]

Oh yea? On what evidence? And who would be behind it besides Us, Saudi Arabia and Israel?

And more importantly, which countries would be against it and condemn it?

Today's rant: people who rant without getting their facts straight.

you miss the point bro. read the times article i linked, it mentions all the arab countries around iran that were pushing for war against iran. Its a very different thing when we go to war with those countries behind us, for how it appears to the folks in the middle east. Without them, it looks like arrogant american intervention (like iraq). With them it has credibility.

[wellington1869]

rant: styrofoam peanuts suck ass.

not only do they get on the floor soon as you open a package and you have to get on your hands and knees and collect each one individually, thus wasting huge amounts of time, but they're also horrifyingly unfriendly to the environment.

[ch_123]

you miss the point bro. read the times article i linked, it mentions all the arab countries around iran that were pushing for war against iran. Its a very different thing when we go to war with those countries behind us, for how it appears to the folks in the middle east. Without them, it looks like arrogant american intervention (like iraq). With them it has credibility.

I'm sure a lot of Iraq's neighbors were happy about the US invasion (Iran certainly was) but just got to have their cake and eat it by denouncing American imperialism in public.

Some things never change.

[microsoft windows]

No proof yet. Come on guys. I know you all can do better than this.

[wellington1869]

No proof yet. Come on guys. I know you all can do better than this.

dude, you're being like kbl, where when handed confessions from the very people who claimed evidence existed, who now say it didnt, you say thats not proof?

Ch is right, you're basically asking for proof that santa claus doesnt exist at this point.

[ch_123]

Yeah, I've been waiting for proof of the non-existence of Santa Claus since I was 12 years old... I'm getting impatient at this stage.

[msiegel]

it would have been so much easier to just fabricate some wmds for public display, like we did with the moon landings

[wellington1869]

I'm sure a lot of Iraq's neighbors were happy about the US invasion (Iran certainly was) but just got to have their cake and eat it by denouncing American imperialism in public.

Some things never change.

exactly right -- but as the times article makes clear, Obama's admin was smarter  than bush's this time, insisting that the arab countries go public with their support. Thats smart, and i think, necessary, should we come to blows with iran.

Its very clear how much those arab regimes want to play the 'double game'; on the one hand have america (and israel) do their dirty work for them, on the other hand pretend like they're against it to get street cred with their populations. its complete bull****. Its gotta stop. I was really glad to see Obama's admin put their foot down on that.

[wellington1869]

like we did with the moon landings

lol, you're not helping

[wellington1869]

here's something else interesting, for all the huffing and puffing over the stupid-ass wikileaks site, most of the info revealed so far does CREDIT to the west. It shows how much dialogue has gone on behind the scenes, how much cooperation from other countries, and indeed even how much RESTRAINT the west has shown so far in the face of amazing belligerence and real danger by regimes like iran's and north korea's.

it actually makes the western democratic coalition look really civilized. More so than not. I'm glad the stupid wikileaks stuff came out. I have to think the obama admin is secretly pretty happy about it too.

The main story here is how duplicitious the arab regimes have been, if anything, in privately urging israel and the Us to attack iran while publicly being silent about it.

It even shows how Obama was able to get russia and china on board, in a way that bush was totally incapable of doing.

[microsoft windows]

dude, you're being like kbl, where when handed confessions from the very people who claimed evidence existed, who now say it didnt, you say thats not proof?

Ch is right, you're basically asking for proof that santa claus doesnt exist at this point.

No. I am asking you to provide me with direct evidence and/or proof that George Bush lied/made up evidence/reasons about going to war in Iraq.

[ch_123]

You should also prove the non-existence of the tooth fairy while you're at it.

Some people say the Jews have been stealing my teeth, but I know it's a fairy!

[wellington1869]

Some people say the Jews have been stealing my teeth, but I know it's a fairy!

i knew it! I always thought it was the gays and not the jews. Why wont they leave my teeth alone!

[wellington1869]

No. I am asking you to provide me with direct evidence and/or proof that George Bush lied/made up evidence/reasons about going to war in Iraq.

I want you to provide me with direct evidence that you're not a figment of my imagination.

[ch_123]

Make me a sandwich while you're at it.

[keyboardlover]

you miss the point bro. read the times article i linked, it mentions all the arab countries around iran that were pushing for war against iran. Its a very different thing when we go to war with those countries behind us, for how it appears to the folks in the middle east. Without them, it looks like arrogant american intervention (like iraq). With them it has credibility.

Those same countries were pushing for war with Iraq! Name one of those countries who complained when we went to Iraq!

Tonight's rant: I have an idea for a 'jump to conclusions' mat! It's a mat, with conclusions! That you can jump to!

[wellington1869]

the second batch of wikileaks documents once again makes the obama admin look pretty good. I cant imagine the admin is anything but happy with these, despite all the complaining.

basically: china is "tiring" of north korea and wants the koreas united under the control of south korea, china wont intervene if the north collapses economically and politically, and china wants the US to have a strong role in the talks between the koreas, and china believes its future lies with its ties to the US, japan, and south korea.

Not bad at all an outcome for Obama, considering the possibilities.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/29/wikileaks.new.documents/index.html?hpt=T2

not only are these "leaks" not damaging, on the contrary, they make our side look pretty good.

[RoboKrikit]

not only are these "leaks" not damaging, on the contrary, they make our side look pretty good.

Except when it comes to infosec. Maybe we can outsource that to China.

[woody]

like we did with the moon landings

[Twitchy]

Today's rant: Me being such an idiot

Why did I not pay for a tracked delivery on my new keyboard? Every time our office door opens I get a little rush of excitement because it could be here, which is very quickly followed by disappointment and frustration because it's not! It could be anywhere right now but it feels like the delivery is always five minutes away. I might've saved myself 5% on the cost of my keyboard but the stress is taking hours off my life!

[Twitchy]

Rant and it shall appear!  :high5:

[keyboardlover]

not only are these "leaks" not damaging, on the contrary, they make our side look pretty good.

L. O. L.

There are hundreds of thousands of documents we're talking about here. Given that I'm sure you haven't read through them, I am confident that you are in no way educated enough to be able to comment regarding whether they make the current administration look good or bad.

Nice try though.

[itlnstln]

You will find most people's rants are non-important and easy to ignore.  The importance however of nodding your head to your wife to appear like you are listening is not to be underestimated.

I will second this.

[msiegel]

The importance of nodding your head

:nod:

[ricercar]

No. I am asking you to provide me with direct evidence and/or proof that George Bush lied/made up evidence/reasons about going to war in Iraq.

You clearly haven't read his [strike]confessional[/strike] [strike]self-aggrandizing[/strike] [strike]revisionist[/strike] autobiography.

[msiegel]

so, while we're still on the topic of airport security scanning machines...

http://cargocollective.com/4thamendment

[wellington1869]

today's rant: outlook search BLOWS.  I can *never* find an email I want cuz windows indexer is so damn slow and so damn incomplete. Even in win7, even with a fast computer. It just throttles back at every opportunity and its never ready. Lots of complaints on this online too.

This is the sort of thing that gives MS such a bad name. They finally built a stable desktop search indexer, and then they throttle it back so much its UNUSEABLE.  In the age of instant searches, it does NOTHING, much like the proverbial goggles.

You cant even tell it to index at high speed and come back later. No such option. (yea, third party tools, but again, why were they needed?). Or $40 for Lookeen.

****ing MS.  I want to see MS succeed, and then they do utter crap like this on one of the most widely used features in their software.

Google desktop search doesnt yet support Outlook 2010. SO basically if you have office 2010, you can forget about finding any emails via search. WTF, MS.

[ch_123]

I want to hear about this great job that you are so proud of.

[wellington1869]

And thus is the comic tragedy of MS - you wish their stuff wasn't ****, but it almost invariably is.

well, to be fair its down to one or two things (tho highly annoying things) now. I'm still not going mac.


bonus rant: People who put "cheers" in their signature and thus sign off every single email with "Cheers".  Its so annoying! So they'll write a serious or sad email, and forget they have that in their email, and still sign off automatically with "Cheers!".  And besides -- if the "Cheers!" is automatically added, does it still have any emotive value? Doesnt it become robotic and lifeless? They dont mean to cheer me at all! And its value is cheapened cuz i know the sender has "Cheered" everyone they ever email, so there's nothing special about me at all!
And lastly, why "Cheers"? What, are we in ****ing England? WTF!  Is that a pathetic attempt to sound sophisticated?!

[keyboardlover]

You are literally the biggest whiner I have ever known. You wouldn't last a day where I work - fortunately they don't tolerate that stuff

[wellington1869]

And thus is the comic tragedy of MS - you wish their stuff wasn't ****, but it almost always is.

Its worse than just throttling back the search so it never completes indexing. For instance: if outlook program isnt left open, no emails get indexed - period. So you also have to remember to leave outlook running all the time? WTF. Jesus christ that is so ****ing retarded and I dont know why MS does these things with their heads so far up their ****ing asses. Seriously. One single everyday user of Outlook can tell them how incredibly useless and frustrating it is to try to search emails in outlook. One single one. What the **** are they spending their ****ing billions on?

[ch_123]

You are literally the biggest whiner I have ever known.

There's something ironic about this statement.

You wouldn't last a day where I work - fortunately they don't tolerate that stuff

Mc Donalds?

[wellington1869]

lol