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Offline Dr.Pepper

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« Reply #100 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 10:39:32 »
I thought it was about 2.15 at the price of the realforce on elite keyboards.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #101 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 10:42:41 »
Quote from: ripster;304246
Here's the question of the day.

Why would ANYONE buy last years model of Topre when you can buy 3 Leopolds for the same price (assume you buy a few Topre esc keys if you are a mathematical whiz)?


It's not Cherry-based?

That's not to say that Topres aren't overpriced, but it is an apples-to-oranges comparison on a certain level.  That's like saying that you can buy 2 Camrys for the cost of a BMW 5-series.  True, and quality wise, that might be correct, but you would be ignoring other, important factors.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #102 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 10:45:54 »
You can get a Realforce for as low as $215 on EK.
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Offline zakazak

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« Reply #103 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 11:30:49 »
hmm the leopolods are pretty cheap + i like the cable tunnel or what ever it is called in english.

i wonder if they are rly any worse than the filco´s. hope someone will write a review soon :)
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #104 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 11:45:22 »
I detached/attached the cable on my HHKB a ton, and it never caused a problem, but to Majestouch's point, the Leopolds' (and Duckys')  jack may not be as sturdy.  One thing I noticed on my Ducky, and I see the same thing on the Leopolds, is that the amount of space around the USB connector on the 'board is small, and routing the cable to the left or right seems like it would create a lot of stress on the cable/connector.  I run mine straight out as it took an uncomfortable amount of effort to try routing out the side.
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #105 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 11:48:36 »
Quote from: RiGS;304216
Filco already has its reputation. 139$ free shipped is not bad in the US.
Also Filco aesthetically is much better than the gayish Leopold.
Filco will eventually has dual layered pcb.
Also there are a lot of people who prefer costar stabilizers.
Oh, I have almost forgot that the Leopold spacebar is a pain in the ass.


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Offline pm_

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« Reply #106 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 14:09:55 »
Quote from: ripster;304246
Here's the question of the day.

Why would ANYONE buy last years model of Topre when you can buy 3 Leopolds for the same price (assume you buy a few Topre esc keys if you are a mathematical whiz)?


Yeah, add in a few keys and shipping, and that tenkeyless is close to $300 vs. the Leopold similarly configured for around $120.  That is quite a price premium to pay, especially for something that might be marginally better.  

However, I'm still interested in a Topre at some point, and may be more inclined to try one if it was only twice as much as a Leopold. :)
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Offline mjacob

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« Reply #107 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 14:27:41 »
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However, I'm still interested in a Topre at some point, and may be more inclined to try one if it was only twice as much as a Leopold. :)


In that case, you can have my gently-used 103U for $240 shipped to anywhere in the CONUS. Then I can buy a spare Leopold to hold in reserve in my private vault (by which I mean gun safe).
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Offline Dr.Pepper

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« Reply #108 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 14:27:49 »
I want a happy hacking ish keyboard that lights up like a deck, has cherry red switches, sturdy non mini USB cable, n-key rollover over USB, lights up in any color you want, no matter what mood you're in. And most of all has no "windows" key.


All for about $99. That will never happen.  But in the event that the deck keyboards come in cherry reds, or these do, I'll be springing for one of these.
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Offline Dr.Pepper

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« Reply #109 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 14:35:44 »
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Offline rustybarnacle

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« Reply #110 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 14:52:49 »
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It's so pretty and domey.
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Ick ick ick.  Stupid domes.  Just gimme a blank whatever key.  And yes, I realize i can just harvest/buy a couple of modifier keys from whoever, but then they won't be exactly the same material/feel/shape/look/whatever as the rest of the keys, and my left eye will start twitching...
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Offline Dr.Pepper

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« Reply #111 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 15:13:51 »
I just confirmed that the alt - meta - control keys are all identical on the das blank version. So I'm happy. ( Yeah there's no dome )
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Offline pm_

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« Reply #112 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 15:15:49 »
Quote from: mjacob;304425
In that case, you can have my gently-used 103U for $240 shipped to anywhere in the CONUS. Then I can buy a spare Leopold to hold in reserve in my private vault (by which I mean gun safe).


Guess I forgot to mention, no full size keyboards for me ever again.  :p

And while I eventually do want one, $200 kb's are currently out of my price range.
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Offline godofdeath

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« Reply #113 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 15:33:15 »
No full size preorder I'm sad
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Offline neo

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« Reply #114 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 15:34:17 »
That Windows logo doesn't bother me (although the knowledge that I've payed for it royalties to Microsoft somewhat does), but the domes are really ugly.
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Offline theferenc

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« Reply #115 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 15:36:05 »
Because keyboards are like cars. Every year, a new model with new technology comes out, the obseletes the old one.

Oh, wait...
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Offline wongster

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« Reply #116 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 16:17:13 »
I've been wondering if EK will include any accessories/extras with the Leopold. Has anyone heard anything about that?
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Offline spolia optima

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« Reply #117 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 16:24:33 »
Lol, I actually love the feel of those domed windows keys. they should make all the buttons windows buttons
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Offline rustybarnacle

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« Reply #118 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 16:26:11 »
Quote from: Dr.Pepper;304460
I just confirmed that the alt - meta - control keys are all identical on the das blank version. So I'm happy. ( Yeah there's no dome )


I have both a printed and non printed Das Keyboard, and neither have domed keys.  Maybe the domed thing is a new-ish requirement?
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Offline digitalleftovers

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« Reply #119 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 16:40:31 »
Quote from: rustybarnacle;304506
I have both a printed and non printed Das Keyboard, and neither have domed keys.  Maybe the domed thing is a new-ish requirement?

AFIK, the dome relates to the windows Vista/7 logo, although, it doesn't seem like the timing of availability is consistent.  Either there are quite a few keyboards that were manufactured before that specification that continued to be sold, or manufacturers were just slow to comply.  I am betting its the later since that key requires them to use a separate mold.  If I were a manufacturer, I would be more than a little annoyed at microsoft for not only charging me to use the logo, but adding additional expenses to my process.

Edit: I bought a filco from EK just 6 months ago (blank) and it does not have the domes.
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Offline Armando Penblade

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« Reply #120 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 16:55:38 »
The Microsoft Comfort Curve I bought ~August 2008 didn't have it, nor did the replacements I considered getting in about the same time in 2009. Of course, that's stretching back pretty far ;)
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Offline Dr.Pepper

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« Reply #121 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 17:52:53 »
I just hate windows in general. No you cannot convince me otherwise. Oh, and I don't think that Filco is doomed, my mom wants one of those pink keyboards. She is trying to find a place that will ship it to the US right now lol.
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Offline digitalleftovers

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« Reply #122 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 18:03:06 »
Quote from: Dr.Pepper;304569
I just hate windows in general. No you cannot convince me otherwise. Oh, and I don't think that Filco is doomed, my mom wants one of those pink keyboards. She is trying to find a place that will ship it to the US right now lol.


If she is successful, please post pics and how she obtains it.  Is she trying to use a broker?  I'm guessing the most reliable way is going to be Obook.  Filco is definetly not doomed.  All they need now are some positive reviews on amazon.
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Offline Bass

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« Reply #123 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 18:10:49 »
Definitely a nice price point to start out. I might consider picking up one of the tenkeyless with brown switches because I have yet to try them.
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Offline Dr.Pepper

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« Reply #124 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 18:11:59 »
Yeah, if she finds out how to get one in the fist place I will post back and tell you how she got it. :)
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Offline zirrow

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« Reply #125 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 20:24:21 »
it's your eye for detail that makes you so special ripster
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Offline Mr. Perfect

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« Reply #126 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 20:52:26 »


What happened to this thread?
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Offline zirrow

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« Reply #127 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 20:53:59 »
Quote from: Mr. Perfect;304671

What happened to this thread?


I blame the schools
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Offline Suchadropper

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« Reply #128 on: Fri, 04 March 2011, 02:55:16 »
i come often see what's going on.
i am obviously new here though.

http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1205922164

are they copying FILCO now?
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Offline ironman31

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« Reply #129 on: Fri, 04 March 2011, 06:45:23 »
Quote from: Suchadropper;304775
i come often see what's going on.
i am obviously new here though.

http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1205922164

are they copying FILCO now?

I don't know. In my mind, those are superior keycap pulling tools, and leopold just put their name on it. Not many other ways you could do it.
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Offline laden3

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« Reply #130 on: Fri, 04 March 2011, 07:00:36 »
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Best typo EVAH!


ROFL the ass-fisting joke?
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Offline vun

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« Reply #131 on: Fri, 04 March 2011, 13:05:54 »
Might be a bit off topic, but I can't seem to place the Leopolds in my mental map of keyboards.
As far as I've gathered they seem like Filco boards, only slightly better. Either that or pretty much the same, only a different brand.

Interested in knowing because I want both a brown and blue board, so wondering if I should just get two Filcos or a mix.
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Offline vun

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« Reply #132 on: Fri, 04 March 2011, 13:23:18 »
So because Filcos are Japanese I'd be better off with two of those?
I like variety, but I'm not sure if it's worth bothering ordering from two different vendors if they're not really any different.
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Offline vun

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« Reply #133 on: Fri, 04 March 2011, 13:34:13 »
Alright, thanks, still new to this. Figured I'd make sure my first step into mech boards wasn't a total bummer, then we'll see how it works out afterwards.
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Offline Chobopants

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« Reply #134 on: Fri, 04 March 2011, 15:44:51 »
Pretty psyched on this. Did my first dip into mechanicals (this century) by grabbing a Filco fullsize brown from EK a few months ago. I've been itching to grab a tenkeyless blue but didn't really feel comfortable dropping another $150 on what may become a backup/travel keyboard. Setting a calendar notification right now for Monday!
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Offline manfaux

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« Reply #135 on: Fri, 04 March 2011, 15:47:37 »
Quote from: ripster;305018
It's like this.

Japan>Korea>China

Pretty easy to grok actually.  I used to think grok was Norwegian.


except everything is made in China- Filcos and Leos.
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Offline Pylon

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« Reply #136 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:40:32 »
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It's like this.

Japan>Korea>China

Pretty easy to grok actually.  I used to think grok was Norwegian.


But where does Taiwan fit into the equation?
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Offline manfaux

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« Reply #137 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 16:29:39 »
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Taiwan = China.

Unless of course you are Taiwanese.  Last wedding I was at I sure got an earful on this.


lol I wonder what kind of wedding did you go to.
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Offline neo

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« Reply #138 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:53:03 »
I would say on average, quality of stuff produced in Taiwan is substantially higher than quality of stuff produced in China. Just to get ripster onboard I will give one specific example: Ducky tenkeyless as opposed to Filcos and Leopolds. Case closed.
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Offline manfaux

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« Reply #139 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 18:58:31 »
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I would say on average, quality of stuff produced in Taiwan is substantially higher than quality of stuff produced in China. Just to get ripster onboard I will give one specific example: Ducky tenkeyless as opposed to Filcos and Leopolds. Case closed.


Ducky 1087 is made in Taiwan.

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