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Offline arc2

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« Reply #200 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 15:30:53 »
Quote from: Mionix;330901
Geekhack thankyou  .... I hope we managed to answer some of your questions, I will keep my eye on this thread but for now we need beer and were off to the sauna


Have fun, thanks for your time, I too will be keeping an eye out for the upcoming reviews. *hopefully here at Geekhack by one of the experts*
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Offline Oliver

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« Reply #201 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 15:33:31 »
I really hope you Mionix guys are a little more intelligent then your mentally messed up competitors are. Don't f*** with the layout like SteelSeries does with their 6g/6gv2/7g-keyboards. Moving keys just for showing everyone how special your company is is NOT funny at all!

Also, next time use them blue switches for those of us who aren't creatine-junkies...
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« Reply #202 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 15:35:01 »
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What a lousy source of info.


whats your problem, they wrote it there on the forum, i cant find the thread anymore but i thought that would be clear that razer let build their BW from Ione...
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« Reply #203 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 15:40:29 »
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whats your problem, they wrote it there on the forum, i cant find the thread anymore but i thought that would be clear that razer let build their BW from Ione...


Meet irony.  It's like goldy and silvery.
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Offline BucklingSpring

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« Reply #204 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 15:45:56 »
@Mionix - Can you post a picture of a keycap from under?

Something like that


Enjoy the party and thanks for your time.
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« Reply #205 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 15:49:25 »
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At Geekhack you shouldn't make wild claims without being able to back them up.


Oh you funny man :)
Must be pretty lonely around here.
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Offline Mimic

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« Reply #206 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 15:52:39 »
yea and in the same thread some guys said the IOne made/make the BW i thought that was clear? Or do you think razer is doing there on stuff at home?
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« Reply #207 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 15:59:56 »
Yes, thank you Mionix for taking time to love us.
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« Reply #208 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 16:09:32 »
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Did you do term papers with citations like this?


lol, its good citation. Very specific.

"Egyptians built the pyramids because I read it in that other book."
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Offline Mimic

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« Reply #209 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 16:09:57 »
Yes allways, thats my way of doing things... but since that off topic and we should mess this thread any futher... i keep quiet now
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« Reply #210 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 16:11:51 »
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Yes allways, thats my way of doing things... but since that off topic and we should mess this thread any futher... i keep quiet now


Don't worry, you can join me at rehab. I'll put the good word in for you.

I still want a review unit of those Mionix Girls.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #211 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 16:13:03 »
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Did you do term papers with citations like this?


Papers...no.

But this is the photo of a razer key side by side with a xarmor one.



Do you think they are built by different manufacturer ?
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Offline BucklingSpring

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« Reply #212 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 16:17:32 »
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Yes, thank you Mionix for taking time to love us.


Did he go that far?

I like the answers we got and I'm pretty sure I will order one sooner or later. I'm not familiar with the Mionix brand and or their QC.

I have been burned so many times for been an early adopter. It's not like I'm in need for another keyboard so I'll probably wait for a rev or two before spitting the cash at it.

I also like the fact that they will be releasing it in many regional layouts.

@Mionix - will the FR going to be AZERTY (France) or QWERTY (French Canada)?
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« Reply #213 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 16:24:57 »
@Mionix
Will it have NKRO if you plug it in with a USB -> PS/2 adapter?
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #214 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 16:34:29 »
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In other words the keys prove nothing.


In other words you probably spent 10000 of your 30000 posts speaking about the key feel.

So, at least one of the few elements that differentiate a keyboard from another is built by the same hand.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #215 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 16:39:21 »
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Citation please.


You don't care about the keys ?
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Offline BucklingSpring

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« Reply #216 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 16:40:46 »
Quote from: laserpistol;330948
@Mionix
Will it have NKRO if you plug it in with a USB -> PS/2 adapter?


You asked already and here's what he answered:

Quote: Originally Posted by laserpistol  
@Mionix
 Will it have NKRO if you plug it in with a USB -> PS/2 adapter?

Quote from: Mionix
Great question, I will check it out and come back to you

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« Reply #217 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 17:05:56 »
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The problem is Razer never wrote such a thing.

Here is the sole post made by Razer.

At Geekhack you shouldn't make wild claims without being able to back them up.

I think this might be where that came from.
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« Reply #218 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 17:31:07 »
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Offline berzerQer

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« Reply #219 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 17:41:07 »
they are the same exact key caps.
i'm just saying thats probably where the idea that ione made the blackwidow came from.
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Offline morethanless

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« Reply #220 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 17:48:53 »
Hello everyone,

I just want to mention that this is the only place I read about the Razer Black Widow is built by iOne.

But that could be terribly wrong information.

http://www.overclock.net/12455415-post5.html
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Offline BucklingSpring

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« Reply #222 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 20:36:41 »
Quote from: daerid;331066
Unveiled today apparently:

http://www.mionix.net/page.php?al=zibal60


Thank God - I thought we missed it.
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« Reply #223 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 21:00:24 »
"Rage proof durability"  Oooh yeah!
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« Reply #224 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 21:37:32 »
You know he's sitting back and thinking... "**** it's just keyboards."
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« Reply #225 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 21:41:12 »
I must say, that particular green LED color is one of my favorite colors. If the pictures are accurate color-wise, there's a chance this could be my first foray into Cherry Blacks...
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« Reply #226 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 21:55:49 »
I like the little hub with audio jacks behind the keyboard ala 7G style, works well buying one of these to clip on the back, swivel up and down when needed for gaming or skype.
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« Reply #227 on: Thu, 14 April 2011, 22:04:18 »
Their logo looks like an athletic cup. Does the keyboard come with free joxygen?



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« Reply #228 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 00:17:07 »
The Minoix Zibal 60 goes up for pre-order today and will be delivered in June with a retail price of $149.99

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/04/mionix-zibal-60/
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« Reply #229 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 02:46:18 »
Quote from: BucklingSpring;330944
Did he go that far?

I like the answers we got and I'm pretty sure I will order one sooner or later. I'm not familiar with the Mionix brand and or their QC.

I have been burned so many times for been an early adopter. It's not like I'm in need for another keyboard so I'll probably wait for a rev or two before spitting the cash at it.

I also like the fact that they will be releasing it in many regional layouts.

@Mionix - will the FR going to be AZERTY (France) or QWERTY (French Canada)?


I will try and confirm the layout...
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« Reply #230 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 02:50:41 »
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i read it here on the forum, razers black widow is made by IOne ... and the Xarmor were there before the black widow and me and some on this forum say razer just rebranded it


Just want to say... Mionix does not work with IOne
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« Reply #231 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 02:53:26 »
Quote from: canon.tk;331108
You know he's sitting back and thinking... "**** it's just keyboards."


No i'm thinking how i can i build a Sauna proof keyboard next time :biggrin:
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« Reply #232 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 02:54:39 »
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Their logo looks like an athletic cup. Does the keyboard come with free joxygen?

Show Image


Show Image


Damn it our secret is out.... you found our inspiration for our logo :wink:
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« Reply #233 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 03:21:33 »
The only stuff I'm awaiting from Razer would be a mechanical Nostromo with black cherry switches.
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« Reply #234 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 03:22:13 »
I rather thought the logo had more of a uterine angle to it.
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« Reply #235 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 04:17:06 »


Definitely a bicycle seat
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« Reply #236 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 09:03:10 »
yea, it looks more like a bicycle seat. I don't mind it though
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« Reply #237 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 12:18:30 »
@Mionix - Can you tell us the story behind your logo?

What is it supposed to be?

Quote from the "about" on your site

"Just like many prominent stars, our products have their own myths, characteristics and capabilities. This is why we give our products names after the most prominent stars and this is why stars are important to our culture and ideology."

So my guess would be something constellation related.

I'm surprised Ripster hasn't cracked your logo yet since he is apparently an avid astronomist. He's probably too obsessed with scrotums to figure that one out.

You tell me.
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« Reply #238 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 12:35:49 »
Here's a wild guess


Above an ionized nebula.

Where M(ionized) is ionized nebular mass.

That my far fetch of where Mionix comes from.

:-)
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« Reply #239 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 13:14:25 »
Quote from: ripster;331503
So anyway, back to the real stuff.

What about working with PS/2?  I suspect not (LED power and PS/2 is older than Grandma) but inquiring minds at OCN want to know.
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I think should work.

If it takes the light's current from the second USB, like the xarmor, ps2 should be irrelevant.

If it use the keyboard one should be irrelevant too because ps2 should provide more than enough current to power the lights.
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« Reply #240 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 13:17:36 »
Quote from: ripster;331503
So anyway, back to the real stuff.

What about working with PS/2?  I suspect not (LED power requirements, the spec sheet says USB needed,  and PS/2 is older than Grandma) but inquiring minds at OCN want to know.


I'm curious too. The Zibal has two USB connectors. I wonder if they have both the same functions ie maybe you must have one connected to USB and still have the other connected to the PS2 port.

If they use the same USB connector for both the LED and the Keyboard functions then we are "screwed"...

All speculation until we get an answer from a truthful engineer.
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« Reply #241 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 13:19:18 »
Quote from: ripster;331514
The second USB has to power the hub.  And rather poorly I might add.

We'll see what Mionix says.  Pretty simple to find out.

My bet it is USB only.  Many modern keyboards are.


Do you know if and how the BWU works ?
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« Reply #242 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 13:23:37 »
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It's clearly labeled on the USB cable ends.  Keyboard and Hub.


Yeah... I've deleted my post.
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« Reply #243 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 13:26:50 »
@Mionix
Please give us a brown/clear MX switch option.

The black mx switches are the only downside of the Zibal for me (and the audio passthrough, too. Because I don't need it)
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« Reply #244 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 13:27:31 »
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Do you know if and how the BWU works ?


Ok, just tested, doesn't works at all, no keyboard no light.
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Offline The Solutor

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Mionix Zibal 60 / Z60 gaming keyboard with backlit keys
« Reply #245 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 13:32:01 »
Quote from: ripster;331518

USB is a fine interface.   Recommend it everywhere.


Specially when you move your windows installation from a pc to another and you are stuck because windows is asking for a driver before installing the keyboard and mouse driver.

Also "wasting" an usb port when you can use the ps2 one is not a bright idea.
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Offline Khaotik55

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Mionix Zibal 60 / Z60 gaming keyboard with backlit keys
« Reply #246 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:06:23 »
Cool Mionix, now all you need to do is give us an MX Red version.

I'd probably be willing to pay around 180 USD. I'm craving a light linear typing experience.
« Last Edit: Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:13:25 by Khaotik55 »
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Offline Gravityjay

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« Reply #247 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 18:07:36 »
any idea what the UK price will be? I hope it's not the usual $-£ conversion we seem to get stuck with on gaming products...
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Offline digitalleftovers

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« Reply #248 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 18:32:19 »
ThermalTake may have beat them to market with the Meka G1, but I give them props for the lighting.  It looks really nice. Below (meka g1)
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Offline IanM

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Mionix Zibal 60 / Z60 gaming keyboard with backlit keys
« Reply #249 on: Fri, 15 April 2011, 18:33:35 »
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any idea what the UK price will be? I hope it's  not the usual $-£ conversion we seem to get stuck with on gaming  products...

A (usually expensive) store in Germany has the Mionix Zibal for €130, so that would put it in the £110-£115 range. However the nasty looking Qpad is only £100 at a UK store (also one that likes to rip off customers with above average prices, so I refuse to post their name or give a link) Razer Black Widow Ultimate is £108 from Amazon UK.

Therefore I think £100-£115 is the most likely price range, but if other stores start selling the Qpad for less then maybe the Mionix street price will dip into the £90-£100 range. I wouldn't count on it though, the Mionix mice are still some of the most expensive available relative to their immediate competition.
« Last Edit: Fri, 15 April 2011, 18:41:01 by IanM »
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