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Offline Mercen_505

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« Reply #100 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:02:23 »
At the risk of eliminating any of the respect I most likely have never bothered to garner around here, it seems vaguely amusing to me that someone would act surprised at the notion of losing money... in an activity that involves gambling.

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« Reply #101 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:06:12 »
You guys aren't playing nice. Its Saturday!

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« Reply #102 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:10:56 »
Except the money wasn't lost by gambling it away.

If you stepped out on your smoke break at work and a car lost control and swerved off the road, killing you.

Would it be any less tragic just because you were engaging in an activity that's known to kill you?

Would you try to use that as evidence to argue that people shouldn't smoke, even in legally designated areas?

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« Reply #103 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:13:51 »
I would consider using one of those websites to be a "gamble" in and of itself.

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« Reply #104 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:18:56 »
THIS!!!.......is what you should gamble on!

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Offline Lanx

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« Reply #105 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:30:11 »
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Except the money wasn't lost by gambling it away.

If you stepped out on your smoke break at work and a car lost control and swerved off the road, killing you.

Would it be any less tragic just because you were engaging in an activity that's known to kill you?

Would you try to use that as evidence to argue that people shouldn't smoke, even in legally designated areas?


It was illegal in the first place, so any and all monies that are involved in that area are forfeited. Again i'm not saying yea or nay on it, i don't care either way but it was deemed illegal and as such everyone playing knew the risk everyday, and if they didn't they were obliviously ignorant.

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« Reply #106 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:37:34 »
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It was illegal in the first place, so any and all monies that are involved in that area are forfeited. Again i'm not saying yea or nay on it, i don't care either way but it was deemed illegal and as such everyone playing knew the risk everyday, and if they didn't they were obliviously ignorant.

The fact is that RiGS doesn't come from the US  so the agencies involved can blow him both balls at once, he couldn't care less.
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« Reply #108 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:47:54 »
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At the risk of eliminating any of the respect I most likely have never bothered to garner around here, it seems vaguely amusing to me that someone would act surprised at the notion of losing money... in an activity that involves gambling.



This doesn't logically follow.

The (foreign held/owned) money was not lost _by_ gambling. It has been (potentially) lost due to an arbitrary US law that determines the card game, Poker, as being an illegal destination of US bank funds.

If a player loses money whilst playing Poker, then he or she would have no right to complain. If another country's laws impact your ability to partake in an activity that is legal in your country, then there is _large_ cause for concern.

Whether or not you _personally_ agree with gambling is not the point. Further, there are issues with classifying Poker as 'gambling' within the conventional sense of the word, as it is not _purely_ based on luck. There is a large element of skill; if there wasn't, you wouldn't see a hierarchy of players. the top fifty of which consistently make it to final tables at large tournaments.
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« Reply #109 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:48:02 »
Hmm, so in Geekhack threads never get derailed?
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« Reply #110 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:51:37 »
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Hmm, so in Geekhack threads never get derailed?


No, never, why would you say that? :wink:
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« Reply #111 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:52:16 »
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No, never, why would you say that? :wink:


Just to derail? What did I do something?
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« Reply #112 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:54:13 »
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so the agencies involved can blow him both balls at once, he couldn't care less.

I gotta ask my gf to try that sometime...

Offline Fwiffo

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« Reply #113 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 14:03:06 »
But it's not bright to trust your money to people engaged in illegal activities, regardless of whether you agree with the law. You can do it, but you have to know you're asking for trouble.
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« Reply #114 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 14:17:30 »
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Offline Mercen_505

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« Reply #115 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 14:49:14 »
So a dude wins a few bucks gambling, and then acts surprised when someone arbitrarily decides to take that away. My point, which apparently was easy to miss, is that one does not bet against the house, because the house has ways of taking your **** whenever they feel like it.

In this case, the US is "the house". And if you're finding that concept difficult to grok, I have a bunch of bitcoins I'd happily exchange for cold, hard cash ;)

Gamble all you want; I care not either way. Just don't walk into a situation like that expecting to not lose your ass one way or another.