Author Topic: Introducing: The CM Storm Trigger (Read 72123 times)

Trueepower · « **Reply #100 on:** Thu, 28 July 2011, 02:11:09 »

Quote from: The Solutor;388460

Even if I'm a tactile beast, I recognize that red switches are somewhat interesting, surely better than the insipid brown ones.

Exactly, if I were to go quiet tactile then I would have to mod my board for ergo clears. Even though I haven't even tried browns yet.... they seem to be disappointing without stronger feedback. Clears are also another switch I haven't tried, but I can imagine they would be too stiff (plus the spring takes away from the tactility). Cherry should make ergo clears as one of their main switches. I am sure people would like them

I have seen more people overall like "lighter" switches. Ergo clears would be well liked for sure. I just like linear switches myself.

battlesheep · « **Reply #101 on:** Thu, 28 July 2011, 03:56:13 »

oh... whats wrong with the brown switches?
they are actually my favorite ones

tho i have a feeling ill like the clear ones more...
maybe clear ones with softer springs from reds... cant wait to get clear samples

maybe there are different versions of realforce switches too? 0_o
the KB i have here with realforce switches is terrible... key depresses feel really sluggish and slow...
to me it feels 90% like a rubber dome keyboard...

typing on it is a little tiring... and it doesnt have a clear actuation feedback... the resistance just continues to grow the further you push it down, but you dont feel a bump or click like on cherry switches
to me realforce switches seem like a great replacement for rubber dome lovers...
but i prefer the faster depress clear actuation feedback of blue/brown mechanical switches...

The Solutor · « **Reply #102 on:** Thu, 28 July 2011, 06:27:38 »

Quote from: battlesheep;388628

oh... whats wrong with the brown switches?

They feel just as a linear switch with some lube problems more than tactile switch, I decided to mod to ergo clears my brown board before having it on my hands, and I wasn't wrong.

Quote

to me it feels 90% like a rubber dome keyboard...

It's a rubber dome, feels like a rubber dome, like a good rubber dome.

Zehkul · « **Reply #103 on:** Thu, 28 July 2011, 08:24:51 »

Quote from: battlesheep;388548

like i said im not a big fan of the design myself, but yeah, it does look better than the BW... my fav design wise so far is zowie... i only mean the body tho... the keycaps looks SOOOO cheap...

They don't just look cheap, they ARE cheap.

And yeah I'm not that fond of browns as well, I want tactile feedback, not that strange thingy browns got. I like clears.

The Solutor · « **Reply #104 on:** Thu, 28 July 2011, 08:36:10 »

Quote from: Zehkul;388688

They don't just look cheap, they ARE cheap.

On BW they are the same crap used on Filcos, on BWU they are good like the Xarmor/Mionix/Qpad ones, with just the idiotic font variation.

battlesheep · « **Reply #105 on:** Sun, 31 July 2011, 20:45:28 »

Quote from: The Solutor;388665

They feel just as a linear switch with some lube problems more than tactile switch, I decided to mod to ergo clears my brown board before having it on my hands, and I wasn't wrong.

i prefer them over linear switches personally... but yeah, id love to have a stronger and maybe a little more precise feedback... still havent received clear samples :/

Quote from: The Solutor;388665

It's a rubber dome, feels like a rubber dome, like a good rubber dome.

yeah, an improved rubber dome... fits better than calling it a mechanic switch variation, true...

Quote from: Zehkul;388688

They don't just look cheap, they ARE cheap.

at least the printing doesnt wear off... but yeah, the weird ink they use turns yellowish brown after a while once it gets in contact with finger acid for some reason... thats the biggest complaint i have about the zowie... besides the LED backlid keys which are way bright and turn on by themselves all the time...
the minimalistic body design is great though, love it...

Quote from: Zehkul;388688

And yeah I'm not that fond of browns as well, I want tactile feedback, not that strange thingy browns got. I like clears.

well i only tried the 4 main cherry switches and from those, brown felt the best to me... i think ill love clears

hmmm hey, is there a poll on the forums about which switches they like?
im curious which ones are preferred overall...

alaricljs · « **Reply #106 on:** Sun, 31 July 2011, 21:16:38 »

Always use google's site: to search geekhack... vB search sucks.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?6626-What-is-your-favorite-switch-%28Anonymous-Poll%29

and then the followup to it:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?11952-What-Is-Your-Favorite-Switch-Anonymous-Poll-Round-2.

With ergo-clear being a recent popular choice... might be time for round 3.

battlesheep · « **Reply #107 on:** Mon, 01 August 2011, 02:22:29 »

Quote from: alaricljs;390694

Always use google's site: to search geekhack... vB search sucks.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?6626-What-is-your-favorite-switch-%28Anonymous-Poll%29

and then the followup to it:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?11952-What-Is-Your-Favorite-Switch-Anonymous-Poll-Round-2.

With ergo-clear being a recent popular choice... might be time for round 3.

yeah, i noticed that the VB search is... not as good as i remembered it to be? 0_o
thx a lot for the links!

Quote from: ripster;390701

Popular choice for the three or four that have completed the mod.
Meanwhile the sample size on that linked poll is 577. Almost double the previous one.
Actually the OCN Switch poll is pretty interesting. Somewhat similar results with a less Vintage twist.

these polls surprised me a lot...
brown is more popular than blue!
and black doesnt have a lot of fans at all, which is so ironic cause its the most widely used switch for gaming keyboards, isnt it? hahah

btw, i received the switch samples i requested today! W00t!

some switches ive never seen or heard of before...
green and dark blue and dark grey

battlesheep · « **Reply #108 on:** Mon, 01 August 2011, 03:03:37 »

from strongest to weakest

clicky:
dark green - harder blue, resistance increases after actuation point which results in softer termination when pushing the key down all the way and faster depressing
Blue
dark blue - softer blue? feels about the same, and pushing a blue and dark blue against one another does the same as pushing two blues against each other. it feels notably softer after the actuation point though

bumpy:
White (Clear?) - notably harder than brown, feels more sturdy and less wobbly when being pressed down, clearer actuation force feedback, resistance increases after actuation point which results in softer termination when pushing the key down all the way and faster depressing
Brown
grey - in between brown and clear/white, stronger more pronounced actuation feedback, but wobbly like brown, and a bit sluggish release... almost feels like it gets stuck sometimes... not sure if its this sample (only got one of this color) or if its a result of the stronger actuation feedback without a strong spring like the white/clear switch

linear:
dark grey - even harder blacks (wow, who would want that? :0 for the spacebar on black boards i guess)
Black
Red

battlesheep · « **Reply #109 on:** Mon, 01 August 2011, 03:34:17 »

cant wait to try an ergo clear, cause clear does feel a liiiiittle stiff...

TheProfosist · « **Reply #110 on:** Mon, 01 August 2011, 06:39:16 »

i dont remember the dark green, dark blue, grey and dark grey being mention in any of the wikis here...

alaricljs · « **Reply #111 on:** Mon, 01 August 2011, 08:51:03 »

Where did this sample board come from?

False_Dmitry_II · « **Reply #112 on:** Mon, 01 August 2011, 11:28:38 »

I know the green and the gray are supposed to be spacebar ones (which not all manufacturers use, sometimes they use the same as the rest of the switches on the board) for blue and clear respectively. Both should be harder than the 'regular' ones.

r4pture · « **Reply #113 on:** Mon, 01 August 2011, 13:24:16 »

I like the idea of those green switches. I wonder what a whole keyboard of them would be like, possibly similar to buckling springs?

Mr. Perfect · « **Reply #114 on:** Mon, 01 August 2011, 14:58:18 »

The Green, Light Gray and Dark Gray switches are all used in spacebars, but what in the world is a dark blue MX?

Quote from: r4pture;391037

I like the idea of those green switches. I wonder what a whole keyboard of them would be like, possibly similar to buckling springs?

Hmm, sounds interesting.

DaemonRaccoon · « **Reply #115 on:** Mon, 01 August 2011, 14:59:47 »

According to Sixty over on Deskthority, they're a non-clicky blue. Link

battlesheep · « **Reply #116 on:** Mon, 01 August 2011, 22:35:35 »

Quote from: r4pture;391037

I like the idea of those green switches. I wonder what a whole keyboard of them would be like, possibly similar to buckling springs?

havent tried buckling spring switches yet... i think they probably produce a more sudden click and actuation feedback...
if you like clicky mechanical switches and dont mind the increased resistance, i def recommend you to try a green switch keyboard... if you can find one or order the switches to mod...
they should not get stuck like the blue ones sometimes do

which buckling spring keyboard should i try?
whats a good one?

Quote from: alaricljs;390868

Where did this sample board come from?

a good friend

Quote from: ripster;391038

Got any nickels? Or Yuan (the old one was 6.1g but not sure about the new one)? RipOmeter.
http://img.techpowerup.org/110801/samples.png

which one do you want me to measure

Quote from: DaemonRaccoon;391110

According to Sixty over on Deskthority, they're a non-clicky blue. Link

mhhh the ones i have are definitely clicky... like i said, until actuation its about the same as blue, but after that its notably softer (weaker spring)
i dont think its a good idea to use this switch since even blue switches get stuck sometimes as the spring is too weak to overcome the actuation bump when depressing sometimes...
so using an even weaker spring with a blue switch is asking for trouble ^^

battlesheep · « **Reply #117 on:** Mon, 01 August 2011, 22:43:49 »

I thought you guys might like this

r4pture · « **Reply #118 on:** Mon, 01 August 2011, 23:39:15 »

Quote from: battlesheep;391365

which buckling spring keyboard should i try?
whats a good one?

As far as I'm aware most all buckling spring KBs feel very similar (with the exception of offshoots like the Model M2 and Model F), so picking up a Customizer or Spacesaver off Unicomp will do, or picking up an original IBM Model M, but depending on age and how its been taken care of it may change its feel.

alaricljs · « **Reply #119 on:** Tue, 02 August 2011, 08:57:34 »

Quote from: battlesheep;391365

a good friend

Ok, then would you be able to tell us what switches are available in quantity for a KB manufacturer? It's hard enough for end users to get certain switches.

daerid · « **Reply #120 on:** Tue, 02 August 2011, 09:33:44 »

Quote from: battlesheep;391373

I thought you guys might like this

Show Image

What is this that I'm looking at?

Mr. Perfect · « **Reply #121 on:** Tue, 02 August 2011, 22:49:21 »

Quote from: daerid;391542

What is this that I'm looking at?

If you compare it to the picture in the first post, it looks like a Storm Trigger with no dye or paint.

I actually think it looks better!

battlesheep · « **Reply #122 on:** Tue, 02 August 2011, 23:13:16 »

Quote from: alaricljs;391525

Ok, then would you be able to tell us what switches are available in quantity for a KB manufacturer? It's hard enough for end users to get certain switches.

all of the ones i received samples of are available for orders... but some of them are more expensive than others.
a KB with red or clear vs black or blue would cost around 10USD more for a 104/105 board
With additional shop margins youre looking at an increased MSRP of 15-20$ i think.
I told our guys here that we should just pass this added cost on to the customers...

Quote from: daerid;391542

What is this that I'm looking at?

a white Trigger prototype

Quote from: ripster;391548

I'm more interested if the green one is actually different from the standard green or just the lighting.

And I'm not sure that the dark blue is non-clicky.
Show Image

I was waiting for Sixty to confirm before putting into the Cherry Wiki.

you know that the switches on the right are fake right? :D
theyre not from cherry... we have those here as well, but they feel a bit weird... like even softer reds, but they feel less consistent/linear
theyre dirt cheap though... :o

On that picture the colors look weird as the flash is reflecting on the switches...
why are there 2 brown ones, 2 blue ones, 2 light grey ones and 2 clear ones?
One is real cherry and one is fake cherry? :D
This is a picture from china after all, and they have other fake switches on this pic...
my samples are directly from cherry in asia, so they're definitely genuine

The two blue switches actually look different from one another... the left one looks like the normal cherry mx blue, the one on the right looks like is blue-green?
the green switches i have are probably the same as the green one on this picture.

and like i said, the dark blue one i have is definitely clicky... and looks like the one on your pic, very dark blue

False_Dmitry_II · « **Reply #123 on:** Wed, 03 August 2011, 01:10:20 »

I find it interesting that that is the case.

If you managed to get a board out with just greens or dark blues or some of the other ones, you'd have literally the only board on the market with them. That would force some sales, at least with collectors who frequent these parts.

battlesheep · « **Reply #124 on:** Wed, 03 August 2011, 01:52:14 »

heh, yeah but how many would that be?
100 pieces maybe?

still, i like the idea as well, and whats important for me is, the people who would buy these boards will buy them not because its what some marketing campaign hypes, or its what all the cool kids have, but cause they KNOW their sht and appreciate it...
These guys are like the experienced members here, keyboard experts, and their support and feedback is really valuable...
i believe in karma, so if we can pull this off and get the more knowledgable KB guys a new toy to have fun with, im sure something good will come out of it for us as well.
A lot of feedback about the KB design, backlight, fonts, keycaps...

so we will see...im trying to get a few small batches of unique boards like this out, wish me luck

mtl · « **Reply #125 on:** Wed, 03 August 2011, 05:44:37 »

I'd love to get my hands on some dark blue springs for my variable force cherry mod. Are you sure those are currently being sold by Cherry? I got the impression from sixty's post they were vintage.

The Solutor · « **Reply #126 on:** Wed, 03 August 2011, 05:55:57 »

Quote from: mtl;392161

I'd love to get my hands on some dark blue springs for my variable force cherry mod. Are you sure those are currently being sold by Cherry? I got the impression from sixty's post they were vintage.

Almost all sources agreed about the yellow fakes as middleway between red and blacks, so they could be interesting too for your project.

You should get a Rapoo V7...

mtl · « **Reply #127 on:** Wed, 03 August 2011, 06:52:14 »

Yeah good call.

False_Dmitry_II · « **Reply #128 on:** Wed, 03 August 2011, 13:12:13 »

I think you should check to see if it's possible to order ergo clears, perhaps with a new plastic color, at all straight from them. It's only a custom switch right now, but if they can do all those other ones which are super rare at the moment, then just using different springs for a batch of clears shouldn't be too hard in comparison. Or dark blue's springs, not sure which would be better to me personally, but anything lighter than they are now should be an improvement.

Quote from: mtl;392161

I'd love to get my hands on some dark blue springs for my variable force cherry mod. Are you sure those are currently being sold by Cherry? I got the impression from sixty's post they were vintage.

Just because they are an older design doesn't meant that they aren't an option. It just means that every single other company that comes out with something gets told that blues, browns and blacks are the most often used and then proceed to use those themselves.

False_Dmitry_II · « **Reply #129 on:** Wed, 03 August 2011, 21:59:55 »

How close are these to actual production?

Probably too late, but something to look at for us:
http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=22587&d=1311861100

If it's plate mounted (and I think it probably is) that would allow people to mod what's in the switches themselves if they want to without soldering and desoldering. Pic taken from a solutor post.

battlesheep · « **Reply #130 on:** Fri, 05 August 2011, 02:13:50 »

Quote from: mtl;392161

I'd love to get my hands on some dark blue springs for my variable force cherry mod. Are you sure those are currently being sold by Cherry? I got the impression from sixty's post they were vintage.

well, they told us so... they just said the rare ones are expensive cause theyre low volume...
and theres a waiting time...

Quote from: The Solutor;392164

Almost all sources agreed about the yellow fakes as middleway between red and blacks, so they could be interesting too for your project.
You should get a Rapoo V7...

they dont feel as smooth though, and the spring isnt very linear it seems to me...

rapoo v7... cant find a place that sells it, how much is it?
i checked prices and actually those fake cherry switches arent that much cheaper...
they reduce the BOM around 10$ maybe, but the feeling isnt as nice as cherry and they are rated to only 20-30 million clicks (i know rapoo claims 50, but ive seen the datasheet, it says 30

)

Quote from: False_Dmitry_II;392641

How close are these to actual production?

Probably too late, but something to look at for us:
http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=22587&d=1311861100

If it's plate mounted (and I think it probably is) that would allow people to mod what's in the switches themselves if they want to without soldering and desoldering. Pic taken from a solutor post.

mhhh dont get it, whats this about?

btw, i just heard that ALPS is stopping their switch line?
they arent making enough money?
not surprised, they arent that much cheaper than cherry switches but dont feel that nice, wiggle a lot...
the chinese fake cherries cost less and feel better

battlesheep · « **Reply #131 on:** Fri, 05 August 2011, 02:27:17 »

came across this today... have you guys ever seen this? ^^
its not fake!

False_Dmitry_II · « **Reply #132 on:** Fri, 05 August 2011, 02:33:11 »

Quote from: battlesheep;393401

they dont feel as smooth though, and the spring isnt very linear it seems to me...

rapoo v7... cant find a place that sells it, how much is it?
i checked prices and actually those fake cherry switches arent that much cheaper...
they reduce the BOM around 10$ maybe, but the feeling isnt as nice as cherry and they are rated to only 20-30 million clicks (i know rapoo claims 50, but ive seen the datasheet, it says 30 )

The guy who was originally asking just wanted the springs. It doesn't matter how terrible or not the switch itself is in the slightest.

Similarly, what I just linked shows what the hole in a plate for a plate mounted board would have to be so that people can get it and change what the switches one their board use. It allows you to get at what lets you to physically take apart the switch itself and change what is in it (spring and/or stem).

Also, that last thing just makes you a cherry guy. There are plenty of people who think cherry switches feel like crap.

foliolio · « **Reply #133 on:** Fri, 05 August 2011, 02:33:32 »

Love the turbo-key and 4 enters. When I want to enter things, I want to do it, like, mui rapido!

battlesheep · « **Reply #134 on:** Fri, 05 August 2011, 02:58:48 »

Quote from: False_Dmitry_II;393405

The guy who was originally asking just wanted the springs. It doesn't matter how terrible or not the switch itself is in the slightest.

well, to me the spring didnt feel good... i wouldnt recommend it...

Quote from: False_Dmitry_II;393405

Similarly, what I just linked shows what the hole in a plate for a plate mounted board would have to be so that people can get it and change what the switches one their board use. It allows you to get at what lets you to physically take apart the switch itself and change what is in it (spring and/or stem).

mhhh i see... youd need a special hook tool... i wouldnt call it EASY heheh... but yeah that would be great to open the switch without unsoldering it from the pcb!
do you mind if i ask our engineers to add this? in case they do it, your not gonna sue us or anything, right? ^^

Quote from: False_Dmitry_II;393405

Also, that last thing just makes you a cherry guy. There are plenty of people who think cherry switches feel like crap.

heh... well i havent tried buckling springs yet, i have a feeling i might like those the most...
but so far, white/clear cherry switches are the best i tried...
i actually like scissor switches as well btw... some at least...

but yeah, i guess im a cherry guy...

battlesheep · « **Reply #135 on:** Fri, 05 August 2011, 03:04:41 »

Quote from: foliolio;393406

Love the turbo-key and 4 enters. When I want to enter things, I want to do it, like, mui rapido!

yeah the turbo button is epic, wonder what exactly it does

imagine you could program it to enable/disable CPU turbos on the newer amd/intel cpus with this, hah!

I think my mom would freak out with this keyboard... she wouldnt know WHICH enter key to hit and think hitting the wrong one will blow up the PC or make it delete all important files ^^

battlesheep · « **Reply #136 on:** Fri, 05 August 2011, 05:07:33 »

got a sample board with yellow switches

i like the color! its funny to see a yellow "cherry" switch haha
unfortunately it doesnt feel that nice, like i said...
ill get more samples from this vendor later, they apparently have everything cherry has, just cheaper... and feeling a little cheaper...
ill post details once i get them!

Lanx · « **Reply #137 on:** Fri, 05 August 2011, 07:39:57 »

Quote from: battlesheep;383083

hmmm which one are you using?
what exactly is wrong with it?
whats wrong with the software?
send me a pm and ill forward it to the PMs

i'm using the cm inferno, the software is junky, everytime i bootup the software it recalibrates my mouse, so i loose my settings, currently there's no way to turn this off, so what happens? i never turn on the software, so it's useless.
the mouse software is all buggy and is a chore to make macro's with.

i'd actually would junk this mouse if i didn't mod it to be awesome

*edit
oh and only 2 of the 5 modes work, but that may have been my fault since i've modded it.

False_Dmitry_II · « **Reply #138 on:** Fri, 05 August 2011, 18:52:52 »

Quote from: battlesheep;393418

mhhh i see... youd need a special hook tool... i wouldnt call it EASY heheh... but yeah that would be great to open the switch without unsoldering it from the pcb!
do you mind if i ask our engineers to add this? in case they do it, your not gonna sue us or anything, right? ^^

I didn't do up that picture. So I'd also tell them what it's for so they can make the holes a good size. I don't know who did do up the picture, but I don't mind if it's done at all. If it was this would also be the first one that would allow that to be done. I think I would say that I'd prefer legally if any company could do it. Sort of an open source-ish idea, if you get what I mean.

N8N · « **Reply #139 on:** Fri, 05 August 2011, 22:14:56 »

Quote from: battlesheep;393418

mhhh i see... youd need a special hook tool... i wouldnt call it EASY heheh... but yeah that would be great to open the switch without unsoldering it from the pcb!
do you mind if i ask our engineers to add this? in case they do it, your not gonna sue us or anything, right? ^^

When I pop the top on a Cherry switch, I use two jeweler's screwdrivers... if you look at the top of the switch, there's a little rectangular hole in each of the four corners. If you stick a screwdriver with about a 2mm blade in one of those holes and pry, it'll release the two latches on that side. then take the other screwdriver and jam it under the top so it doesn't pop back down, go to the other side and pop those two latches. Harder to type out than it is to do, but it only works w/ PCB mounts because the plate prevents the latches from unlatching. If you put those notches in the plate I think that that method would likely work.

If you wanted to be real slick you could probably make a little fork shaped tool precisely shaped and spaced to make the process slightly quicker. Or even something like snap ring pliers with two forks, to pop all four latches at once. The last might be more idiot proof because then you wouldn't put any bending stress on the solder joint if you got all ham-handed with it. Or if you had two snap ring pliers with tips about the right size that might work too, haven't tried that (yet. Just got that idea as I was typing this post.)

I'm sitting here behind a board w/ plate mounted Cherries and a spaghetti sauce jar full of clear stems and springs, just waiting for my new soldering iron to show up

Might have to go retrieve my Dremel and try the plate mod just to see if it'll work. I don't know if I have the patience to Dremel out four little reliefs in each of 104 cutouts though... but if the plate is stamped or laser cut in production, no biggie.

Of course, if I modded my plate I'd have to repaint it, giving me the opportunity to do paint it Safety Orange, or something like that.

JackA$$ · « **Reply #140 on:** Fri, 19 August 2011, 16:40:25 »

Hey Ho,
Some news from the Gamescom 2011. Finally in Germany the CM Storm Trigger will be released next month for 100-120 EUR.
Cherry MXBlack will be used for the main-keys and Cherry MXRed for the macro-keys.
Click me for more Info
I do not know if i should believe him, he says that the BlackMX are having a tactile feedback and the RedMX should be Clicky... wtf?

Could battlesheep enlighten us?

Carter · « **Reply #141 on:** Fri, 19 August 2011, 17:06:11 »

We are working on it boys.

DeltaGunner · « **Reply #142 on:** Sat, 20 August 2011, 05:54:44 »

I heard from a contact of mine at CM Storm that the Trigger is pushed back to 2012.

Also I guess it would be more likely to assume that there will be 4 'full' versions ie. one full blue, one full brown, one full black and one full red.
This of course is just what I would expect.

kaiserreich · « **Reply #143 on:** Sat, 20 August 2011, 07:14:44 »

Just came across this, a Tenkeyless CM Mech keyboard with detachable cable.

source: http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-188760-1-1.html

DeltaGunner · « **Reply #144 on:** Sun, 21 August 2011, 03:09:03 »

Wow that tenkeyless looks really nice, and its much cleaner looking than the full size keyboard with all the case details. This just has a **** load of CM Storm logos which isnt even bad.
Detachable cable is something I never had so I dont know how much of an improvement it will be.

Still hope this one has backlight. but looking at f9-12 cluster it certainly looks like it.

False_Dmitry_II · « **Reply #145 on:** Sun, 21 August 2011, 12:05:16 »

If you use it in more than one place, just get cables that can sit there. If it gets destroyed, just get a new cable instead of soldering it back together. I really would prefer it if most keyboard cables were like that.

PeeJeff · « **Reply #146 on:** Mon, 29 August 2011, 18:59:14 »

Macros are useless TBH, they're just a gimmick to sell more... heck, they're illegal in all the sc2 tournaments I go, why would I bother using them... I'd rather have backlit and a usb/hub.

flaming_june · « **Reply #147 on:** Mon, 29 August 2011, 23:49:10 »

There are other instances where macro keys work wonders. Hence I'm looking forward to the ttesports G unit, with 12 keys (even 2-2-2 per column). It works well with SC2 where you don't have to reach all the way to the right for 5-0 keys. Even one of those keys can be bound to pop two or three types of potions simultaneously in games like Diablo 2, or mmorpgs. Just because macros are not allowed in tournies, doesn't mean you couldn't use them for single keys, or use macros at home for other games.

Unfortunately it took CM too long. I bought a BWU to hold me over til esports releases their Meka G unit keyboard.

JackA$$ · « **Reply #148 on:** Tue, 30 August 2011, 15:09:48 »

Now it happened...
Razer will release a new Black Widow Ultimate.
MXBrown, no glossy and 6KRO. There is no reason for me to buy a Trigger anymore.

noodles256 · « **Reply #149 on:** Tue, 30 August 2011, 15:38:26 »

will it ping?

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Author Topic: Introducing: The CM Storm Trigger (Read 72123 times)