Concerns with my Leo

[benis]

I've been using my Leopold tenkeyless with MX browns for about a month now.

Initially I loved but after using it for a while i have a couple gripes I'd like to share.

First off I have to say I don't like the stabilizers compared to my Black Widow. I find they are to tough and a bit mushy. I'm not sure why they used the stabilizers they did, but I don't like em, I think a simple stabilizer would have been a lot better since I feel the Leo's ruin the original feel of the browns. This brings me to gripe number 2. I find the browns tactile feel very minimal, almost unnoticeable. To me its more like a light version of blacks (I've never tried red so I can't say). Also the switch is not at all smooth, This has nothing to do with tactility, what I mean is... well its hard to explain. I can only say that rather than smooth all the way down, it tends to stick a few times on the way down, this is only when I purposely do a slow press, and it is for every key. I should note the slower I try to press the key the stickier it seems. I'm not sure if this is to be expected, but I've never had this issue with a dome.

Anyway I thought I'd share my thoughts after using the leo for a while. All that said, I still love the board, for its rock solid feel, but after trying Blue, Black and Brown cherries, I can't help but feel they aren't the best quality switches, they're rock solid and have a decent feel, but the fit and finish just isn't there. I hope my ideas will be confirmed after my roommates torpe comes in.

[IvanIvanovich]

While it doesn't bother me greatly Cherry Corp stabilizer does make those keys feel wildly different on the Leopold with browns. Both my other keyboards (g80-3000, Poker) also use them but with blacks, and reds which are both fine since the switch is already linear. As far as the tactility, I think its from the plate. Plates seem to deaden the keyfeel over pcb mount. On the travel, on mine I only notice where it sticks 1 time on the tactile bump and is otherwise nice and smooth to me. But I also only notice the bump when press the key ridiculously slow. On normal typing speed its like it's not even there and I bottom out all the time. Of course there wouldn't be that on a rubberdomes, as they have no tactile point to cause it.
Overall though I really like my Leopold, though it got demoted to my htpc keyboard since my Poker arrived. The g80-3000 is now in the closet until my friend picks it up.

[redpill]

You could try lubing the Leo stabilizers and see if that smooths out the feel?

[Chobopants]

You could try lubing the Leo stabilizers and see if that smooths out the feel?

It doesn't...

[jpc]

Since I learned to touch type, browns are great. Before, they were too light.

[Monkey12345]

Hi, I was interested in buying leo blues as they are restocking on EK, but I'm worried about this as well. I currently have 6gv2(uses blacks) and I really don't like the blacks because of how stiff they are. Can anyone confirm if the blue switches are anywhere near like the blacks on the leo's? Thanks.

[BiNiaRiS]

Hi, I was interested in buying leo blues as they are restocking on EK, but I'm worried about this as well. I currently have 6gv2(uses blacks) and I really don't like the blacks because of how stiff they are. Can anyone confirm if the blue switches are anywhere near like the blacks on the leo's? Thanks.

I love my Leo Tenkeyless with browns and prefer it over my buddy's Filco. I personally like the Cherry Corp stabilizes. I feel that they give a more even press.

And as for blues being like black? Nowhere even close. Tactile and clicky vs linear and silent.

[IvanIvanovich]

Browns feel very light to me on my Leopold. I Imagine the blues to have a similar feel since they use the same spring tension. In my opinion they feel about half as heavy as a black switch on my Cherry g80-3000.

[Monkey12345]

Browns feel very light to me on my Leopold. I Imagine the blues to have a similar feel since they use the same spring tension. In my opinion they feel about half as heavy as a black switch on my Cherry g80-3000.

I was lurking and reading some of the posts about the leopold Browns and how some ppl said they are almost as stiff as the blacks :X

[IvanIvanovich]

yes, one person says tomato, one tomoughto. Different people may have a different perception of the key feeling. Plate mounting can make a switch feel stiffer also, just due to the fact there is less board flex than on a pcb mounted keyboard. Depends on what they were coming from or comparing it with. I would definitely recommend the Leopold, they are very nice keyboards.

[Monkey12345]

yes, one person says tomato, one tomoughto. Different people may have a different perception of the key feeling. Plate mounting can make a switch feel stiffer also, just due to the fact there is less board flex than on a pcb mounted keyboard. Depends on what they were coming from or comparing it with. I would definitely recommend the Leopold, they are very nice keyboards.

Have you tried Black switches and do you know how they feel like?

[audioave10]

The Deck Legend blacks are as smooth as they could be. However, they do take more force to depress. They are great for my big heavy-handed typing. My G80-3000 blues are very light in comparison (and very clicky).

[IvanIvanovich]

In my opinion they feel about half as heavy as a black switch on my Cherry g80-3000.

Perhaps this indicated that yes, I own a keyboard with a black switch?