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Offline Lester

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« on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 06:28:32 »
How do i solve it?! :P Or is this normal for mechs?
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Offline DaemonRaccoon

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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 06:41:36 »
Springs have an innate tendency to ping. It's normal.
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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 06:47:51 »
Depends how loud it is. I'd say it's "normal" if it's not noticeable during normal typing.
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Offline Wibox

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« Reply #3 on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 07:12:47 »
It's normal. If there is an abnormal pinging going on it only effects *some* of the switches on the board, not all of them.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #4 on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 07:13:12 »
Quote from: Lester;376061
How do i solve it?! :P Or is this normal for mechs?

 
Is the whole keyboard that pings or you have just some pinging switches ?

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Springs have an innate tendency to ping. It's normal.


There isn't nothing normal, my xarmor had just a single pinging switch, I fixed it, and now it's completely ping free.

My Qpad is completely ring free, my bl 82 is ring free also, idem for BW and a cherry G80
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Offline Lester

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« Reply #5 on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 07:19:17 »
I'd say it's about 50% of the keys.
Nevertheless, this thing types so extremely godlike, I can never live without it again xD
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« Reply #6 on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 07:40:20 »
Quote from: Wibox;376072
It's normal. If there is an abnormal pinging going on it only effects *some* of the switches on the board, not all of them.

Lolwut? How do you know when its not your board??
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #7 on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 08:54:18 »
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That's impossible.  Ducky plates are aluminum.

 
Likely if the resonance is plate related it just ring at a different frequency than steel

BTW I just found a spare pinging switch, so I'll be able to do some experiments.
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« Reply #8 on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 08:59:57 »
Quote from: Lester;376061
How do i solve it?! :P Or is this normal for mechs?

 
It's true. Mine does it too.
But only on a few keys. It's not a problem for me.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #9 on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 09:42:46 »
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BTW I just found a spare pinging switch, so I'll be able to do some experiments.

 

Done.

I posted the results in the filco thread
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Offline Lester

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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 16:18:18 »
It's the WASD rows that ping very loud, rest aint pinging :(
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Offline Astounding

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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 16:50:22 »
I think a lot of mech boards have some ping to them, especially plate mounted switches.  Is it so bad it bothers you when you aren't listening for it?
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Offline Wallach

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« Reply #12 on: Fri, 08 July 2011, 17:54:17 »
There's one like this in the Das I just received (blues). The W key has a pretty loud spring to it compared to the surrounding keys, which you can hear whether you bottom out the key or not.
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Offline Lester

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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 05:09:11 »
Quote from: Astounding;376429
I think a lot of mech boards have some ping to them, especially plate mounted switches.  Is it so bad it bothers you when you aren't listening for it?

Yea, I don't get bothered by sound fast, but this is really loud :P I'll make a sound sample of it later.
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Offline Lester

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 05:18:52 »
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The Filco Ninja guys would prefer it if you call it "ring".  But I prefer "ping".

I mean we've ALWAYS called it "ping".

It's defo a pong here, it sounds kinda dull.
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Offline redpill

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« Reply #15 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 12:52:39 »
Springs ping, Filcos ring
I'll sing this song,
When a Ducky goes pong
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Offline bach0

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« Reply #16 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 13:25:37 »
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Springs ping, Filcos ring
I'll sing this song,
When a Ducky goes pong

lol
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« Reply #17 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 14:08:02 »
Except when they go ping.

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Offline Farty Grumblepants

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« Reply #18 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 15:52:38 »
i have a leopold now that is very nice, no spring noise.  used to have to a filco but ebayed it because it would make really loud echo.
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Offline Lester

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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 16:30:17 »
Ìt sounds like it's the metal plate that's ponging, hmm!

Sound sample incoming soon once I figure out him to make a decent one ;)
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Offline Lester

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« Reply #20 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 16:58:21 »
Sounds samples:
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Offline redpill

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« Reply #21 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 17:16:40 »
If you want to try dampening, I suggest finding a rubberized drawer liner with adhesive on one side, cutting holes for the switches, and then laying it down on top of the metal plate.
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Offline Lester

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« Reply #22 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 17:19:00 »
Quote from: redpill;377024
If you want to try dampening, I suggest finding a rubberized drawer liner with adhesive on one side, cutting holes for the switches, and then laying it down on top of the metal plate.

Hmm, nice idea! Will try this thx ;)

Weird that only a few keys have it tho :((
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Offline Lester

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« Reply #23 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 17:29:15 »
Nonono, RMA-ing is a no-go.
Had to pay 33 euro already because of stupid customs here, not going through that again, I'll try to solve it somehow :P
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Offline Lester

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« Reply #24 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 19:20:52 »
Its like 2 rows that ping a lot, but the f1/f2 and the arrows keys hardly ping.
I think it's the alu platre, maybe the customs smashes my keyboard arround a bit or something :/
I think I'll try to open it up tomorrow and see if I maybe see something that's not what it should be ;)
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Offline redpill

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« Reply #25 on: Sat, 09 July 2011, 20:49:34 »
That's what happens on days when they have a bond girl running the wave soldering machine.
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Offline Lester

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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 10 July 2011, 04:34:13 »
Lol.

Hmm. Trying to figure out if it's a row of switches or the plate that's making the noise.
I'll open it up today to see what this is ;)
« Last Edit: Sun, 10 July 2011, 04:42:55 by Lester »
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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 10 July 2011, 08:33:51 »
Who closed the ping poll?

Sure wasn't me.
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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 10 July 2011, 08:52:16 »
My Ducky does that too sometimes, only when I'm playing Tetris though and really tearing through double taps and such. Its one of the arrow keys that does it. I noticed it oneday when it happened a few times in a row, but it only happens when you hit it in a certain way, and my brother couldn't tell when it did and didn't happen so its not really that loud. I just gotta force myself to ignore it if I want to play Tetris.
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Offline luie

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« Reply #29 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 03:15:54 »
What did those that fixed the ping do the the switches?
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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 04:06:16 »
Redpill had a quite extreme solution: http://keyboardscience.org/showthread.php?12
But he did it to the whole board, not just em switches
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 06:33:44 »
Quote from: luie;392739
What did those that fixed the ping do the the switches?


If we speak about few pinging switches, resoldering them make the ping inaudible...

Disassembling and reassembling the switch fix completely the unwanted sound
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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 05 August 2011, 07:33:23 »
Quote from: ripster;392882


Just be glad it's not a Filco error.  Sounds like a Cherry Corp screwup.


You know perfectly that few pinging switches and the filco ringing problem are two different matter.

Got a Filco TKL today, and while is not ringing loudly like the ones mentioned by other users, it has a definite echo, that involves the whole keyboard.

Picking on the back of the keyboard is like picking on the back of a guitar, in this way some pinging switches will be amplified.

At least this explains why the push buttons are usually called "keys" in English :party:
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Offline msimon

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« Reply #33 on: Fri, 05 August 2011, 12:46:03 »
Its a miracle, solutor with a filco.
This is madness!.
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« Reply #34 on: Fri, 05 August 2011, 21:33:24 »
Quote from: msimon;393593
Its a miracle, solutor with a filco.


Is ready to be dismantled

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10-1 The Solutor RMAs it for something.


The keyboard is here for a purpose, I couldn't care less about the ring, I have already 3 or 4 good keyboards so I don't need a filco nor a tenpointless keyboard, and this one is both.

Quote from: ripster;393656
Is the Esc key misaligned in the cutout?


Yes

btw pay attention, the whole alpha block is too left as the esc key
« Last Edit: Fri, 05 August 2011, 21:42:39 by The Solutor »
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« Reply #35 on: Sat, 06 August 2011, 02:23:34 »
Quote from: ripster;393987
That's good because I sure didn't hear any Filco ping in your sound sample.


S key

This time I made a video for you :typing:

[video=youtube;wNND9kaWP6s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNND9kaWP6s[/video]
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Offline msimon

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« Reply #36 on: Sat, 06 August 2011, 10:48:03 »
Lol
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Offline Mopar

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« Reply #37 on: Sat, 06 August 2011, 11:38:26 »
Come on Solutor now you got your hands on a real good board (Filco) let go the crappy one (Xarmor). :hippie:
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« Reply #38 on: Sat, 06 August 2011, 12:02:52 »
Quote from: Mopar;394169
Come on Solutor now you got your hands on a real good board (Filco) let go the crappy one (Xarmor). :hippie:


Hahaha what a bunch of fanboys....
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