[GB] Double shot replacements ROUND FOUR! - SHIPPING!

[soulfree914]

Ok, some questions from the wiki...

1. BLANKALNUM - Blank A-Z keys - 50 keys
   : So, is this supposed to consist of ..
     A to Z, punctuations, numbers(~,1,2,3,....9,0,-,=)    ?
     The total is still 46. How do we come up with 50 keys?

2. BLANKMOD kit
    : In the graphical explanation, the blank backspace should be row1(2 units) instead of row2(2 units), right?

Just trying to confirm these before ordering more blanks...

[7bit]

^probably start in 2013 and end on 2015...

^^^This exactly is my plan.

Maybe it starts in 2012 but ends in 2016 ...

[7bit]

Ok, some questions from the wiki...

1. BLANKALNUM - Blank A-Z keys - 50 keys
   : So, is this supposed to consist of ..
     A to Z, punctuations, numbers(~,1,2,3,....9,0,-,=)    ?
     The total is still 46. How do we come up with 50 keys?

2. BLANKMOD kit
    : In the graphical explanation, the blank backspace should be row1(2 units) instead of row2(2 units), right?

Just trying to confirm these before ordering more blanks...

46+2 without nubs and 2 for ISO layout (rows 3 and 4)==50.

:-)

I've corrected the row for Backspace. I will upload the graphic as soon as possible.
Did the same for BLANKMOD125 and BLANKMOD150 .

[emptythecache]

Is anyone else spending more on these keycaps than they did on their board in the first place, or is that just me?

[hazeluff]

Is anyone else spending more on these keycaps than they did on their board in the first place, or is that just me?

I try to balance it out, by buying a new keyboard.

[emptythecache]

that logic is infallible.

[7bit]

Is anyone else spending more on these keycaps than they did on their board in the first place, or is that just me?

The keyboards are so cheap these days because the manufacturers put super-low-quality keycaps on them. It is like with cheap printers where the toner cartridge costs more than a new printer.

Or compeare this to cameras, where the camara costs $1,000 and the lenses $20,000!!!

There even exist keyboards which come without any key caps (like the Phantom for example)!

I try to balance it out, by buying a new keyboard.

Good spirit!
:-)

[emptythecache]

Yeah well after I get my double shots, and a set of topre keycaps, I have to quit geekhack, because I can't spend another penny on keyboards for the rest of my life.

[7bit]

Yeah well after I get my double shots, and a set of topre keycaps, I have to quit geekhack, because I can't spend another penny on keyboards for the rest of my life.

Keyboards are cheap! Only key caps cost money!

[emptythecache]

hey guys. buy RETRO/STANDARD/ORANGE and save me some money. also, 7bit, closer to the deadline can you give me an estimate of how brutal the price on that set will be, so I can switch to the blue version if I need to?

[emptythecache]

Also also, 7bit. Your bot doesn't seem to recognize RETRO/STANDARD/ORANGE. I don't if that was on purpose or not, but it wasn't in the confirmation email I got, so I sent another message to add it, and got no second email. Might explain why "very few people bought that set"

[jellowiggler]

I know the price list on the wiki is old.

I ordered a moogle kit. Listed for $25 on price list, bot says $50. Which is closer to reality?

[7bit]

Also also, 7bit. Your bot doesn't seem to recognize RETRO/STANDARD/ORANGE. I don't if that was on purpose or not, but it wasn't in the confirmation email I got, so I sent another message to add it, and got no second email. Might explain why "very few people bought that set"

****!

I had thrown it out some time ago, because of the few orders ...

[Zehkul]

Is anyone else spending more on these keycaps than they did on their board in the first place, or is that just me?

Yes, way more. And my keyboards already are at 300€, lol. And there's still so much to be bought!

[captain]

You can't be careful enogh these days.

What if the picture has been forged in the 1920s and the family of the forger claims the copyright for it?

BTW: On a regular keyboard, if you put Jes^wLOD on Escape you should be safe.

BTW2:

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^^^^
Any chance we can get this on a key cap (dye sublimation)?

Yes, copyright law in the USA is *insane*.  Along with my letters to congressidiots decrying SOPA/PIPA, I proposed that they completely revamp the copyright law to protect actual creative people, and stop handing over all creative rights to corporations in perpetuity.  I'm sure that was filed 13 immediately.  

WASDkeyboards.com will custom laser keys for around $10 ( http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/individual-custom-keycaps/custom-keycap.html ).  The more I read about Signature Plastics, the less good I feel about blowing huge wads of money on them.  I do want some nice two-shot insert molded keys.... x-fingers.

[captain]

Also also, 7bit. Your bot doesn't seem to recognize RETRO/STANDARD/ORANGE. I don't if that was on purpose or not, but it wasn't in the confirmation email I got, so I sent another message to add it, and got no second email. Might explain why "very few people bought that set"

x2 - though, I discovered that my entire network had been knocked out by my ISP, so that could also explain the lack of email.  I'll ping 7bit_R4 again and see if he responds.

[hazeluff]

Yes, copyright law in the USA is *insane*.  Along with my letters to congressidiots decrying SOPA/PIPA, I proposed that they completely revamp the copyright law to protect actual creative people, and stop handing over all creative rights to corporations in perpetuity.  I'm sure that was filed 13 immediately.  

WASDkeyboards.com will custom laser keys for around $10 ( http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/individual-custom-keycaps/custom-keycap.html ).  The more I read about Signature Plastics, the less good I feel about blowing huge wads of money on them.  I do want some nice two-shot insert molded keys.... x-fingers.

Unfortunately lasers don't have 2 colors = (

[captain]

Unfortunately lasers don't have 2 colors = (

Yeah, I realized that after I mentioned it.  Dye-sublimation is your best bet.  I haven't quite figured out all the ins & outs of keycaps yet, but I seem to recall coming across a place that will do custom dyesubs... it's probably in ripster's sig-linked world of wikis.  ;-)


PS: I am *still* not receiving email from 7bit_R4 bot.  The last time I heard a peep was late December, and that was from 7bit himself, not the bot... so, actually, I have *never* heard a peep from the bot.  I'm certain my network is up and functional, as the spam flood is ticking away merrily, as usual.  Bot, oh bot, wherefore hast thou forsaken me?!  :-(

[captain]

Unfortunately lasers don't have 2 colors = (

Yeah, I realized that after I mentioned it.  Dye-sublimation is your best bet.  I haven't quite figured out all the ins & outs of keycaps yet, but I seem to recall coming across a place that will do custom dyesubs... it's probably in ripster's sig-linked world of wikis.  ;-)


PS: I am *still* not receiving email from 7bit_R4 bot.  The last time I heard a peep was late December, and that was from 7bit himself, not the bot... so, actually, I have *never* heard a peep from the bot.  I'm certain my network is up and functional, as the spam flood is ticking away merrily, as usual.  Bot, oh bot, wherefore hast thou forsaken me?!  :-(

[KylJoy]

I thought 7-bit said that it was a manual script execution by 7-bit himself when he can get around to it, not a bot.  I WISH it were a bot.  I'd really like to see it respond immediately instead of days between.  But, nevertheless, I do appreciate 7-bit's efforts.

P.S. How does a guy get permission to use a signature around here?

[KylJoy]

Now that I think about it...  perhaps it is not a BOT...  but in reality is a ZOMBIE!!  That may explain the randomness.

[7bit]

Yeah, I realized that after I mentioned it.  Dye-sublimation is your best bet.  I haven't quite figured out all the ins & outs of keycaps yet, but I seem to recall coming across a place that will do custom dyesubs... it's probably in ripster's sig-linked world of wikis.  ;-)

Dye-sublimation in China (ask imsto). You can't say anything in China and everything is censored but there id total freedom when it comes to copiing things!

I think it is a language issue: the term 'copyright' had been translated falsely, so they copy all they can!

PS: I am *still* not receiving email from 7bit_R4 bot.  The last time I heard a peep was late December, and that was from 7bit himself, not the bot... so, actually, I have *never* heard a peep from the bot.  I'm certain my network is up and functional, as the spam flood is ticking away merrily, as usual.  Bot, oh bot, wherefore hast thou forsaken me?!  :-(

Now you should have mail.

[7bit]

I thought 7-bit said that it was a manual script execution by 7-bit himself when he can get around to it, not a bot.  I WISH it were a bot.  I'd really like to see it respond immediately instead of days between.  But, nevertheless, I do appreciate 7-bit's efforts.

P.S. How does a guy get permission to use a signature around here?

Me too, but I don't want to run my computer 24/7/365.

P.S.: Just make some spam posts and use a signature as everybody does.

[Zehkul]

****!

I had thrown it out some time ago, because of the few orders ...

There has also never been a BLOOD/PIRATE125 :/ (Or it was removed before I could order, lol)

[metafour]

The wiki says that the vim key is available in any style. The price list and the script seem to indicate otherwise. Is vimcaps only available in the styles indicated on the price list page?

[rindorbrot]

From my experience, in cases like this, the price list is more accurate.
In the wiki there are a couple of options left over that are no longer valid.

[captain]

Dye-sublimation in China (ask imsto). You can't say anything in China and everything is censored but there id total freedom when it comes to copiing things!
I think it is a language issue: the term 'copyright' had been translated falsely, so they copy all they can!
Now you should have mail.

I was in China in 1996.  It was a lot like the USA in the 1970s, only with a LOT more slums, and a disturbing lack of sanitation.  I did get the feeling that some of the "friends" I made there were really spies, wondering, "WTF is this round-eye doing in CHINA?!?"  Anyway, no one freaked out about openly talking; no one acted horribly opressed; no one seemed censored.... Hell, the government there couldn't even be bothered to crack down on the petty crooks swarming every public place; I doubt they could really enact much censorship over their billions of citizens.

Another interesting note: we just sold a video game to a Chinese company, and they were adamant about ensuring that all copyrights were licensed properly, way more than any USA company I've dealt with, outside of movie production clearances.  So, I think all this noise about Chinese piracy and lack of copyright concern is way overblown and jingoistic in it's disingenuousness.  On the other hand, Guangchow is the only place I have seen open markets selling commercially pirated software (i.e. MicroS**t *boxes* with fake holograms!)  Then again, I don't spend much time in the USA flea markets these days, but I suspect some of the same things go on there.  hehe.

7bit: thanks!  I did finally get email from your bot.  I think I need to cull my list.  $700 for keycaps?!?!  :-o

[dux]

NOIR/SYMBOLSRGB

are they all black and have the symbols in color (like first picture in the OP)?

[Mopar]

Keyboards are cheap! Only key caps cost money!

Only your group buy is this expensive! Round 4 R.I.P.

[7bit]

NOIR/SYMBOLSRGB

are they all black and have the symbols in color (like first picture in the OP)?

Yes.

Only your group buy is this expensive! Round 4 R.I.P.

Too many chopices => too many $$$.

Solution: One-fit-all the next time.

[pitashen]

Only your group buy is this expensive! Round 4 R.I.P.

SP made clear to 7 bit that they are willing to only lower the price so much and would not go lower no matter how many more orders are made.

[hazeluff]

SP made clear to 7 bit that they are willing to only lower the price so much and would not go lower no matter how many more orders are made.

Shame. But I agree with this somewhat.

Still, 7bit: a tip of my hat to you. (If I score a goal tonight in Ice Hockey, It'll be in your name).

[7bit]

Shame. But I agree with this somewhat.

Still, 7bit: a tip of my hat to you. (If I score a goal tonight in Ice Hockey, It'll be in your name).

Thanks, but I hope you don't hate me the same you love me now, when you look into you inbox and realise the prices went up again!

Tip: get sphericals, they are the cheapest!

[metafour]

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Is RETRO/MODSYM125 going to look similar to this or will the legends be filled in similar to the original wiki image?

After seeing the retro keys in the SP grab bags I want a set of the dark grey modifier keys with symbols, i.e. modifiers, shifts, control/caps lock, enter, tab and backspace. Is this possible or do I need to order a full TKL or STD set that includes these keys to get them?

[demik]

The close date is wrong, feb doesn't have 31 days

[lightsout714]

The close date is wrong, feb doesn't have 31 days

I think that was the point. Its a joke.

[dorkvader]

The close date is wrong, feb doesn't have 31 days

I noticed that right off, and didn't say anything, waiting to see who would notice. I really like 7bit's sense of humour:

You forgot the over priced under quality key caps part.

Welcome to Geek Hack!

Please send the following to 7bit_R4:

SPH/STANDARD
SPH/SPACE
your e-mail address

Thanks for your order!

I laughed until I cried.

[CeeSA]

open up your eyes 7bit, i don't sell gamer kits. i would like to trade unused parts of gamerkits.... tztztz.
double wrong
now i know for shure there is something wrong with you.

[CeeSA]

open up your eyes 7bit, i don't sell gamer kits. i wuld like to trade unused parts of gamerkits.... tztztz.
double wrong :ohwell:
now i know for shure there is something wrong with you.

[Ragnorock]

Sorry, but I'm not paying $90+ for some doubleshots. I will run my own group buy in a few weeks or so at the $65 for 25 sets or $47 for 50 sets if we get enough buyers. I'll leave my preorder in just in case you manage to bring the price back down, but I highly doubt that will happen nor do I expect that this will ever end. Anyone interested in paying reasonable prices I encourage to look for that.

Also, while I am certainly not interested in collecting the money for you, I do have something to say about it- You're going to need to offer some sort of shared profit if you expect someone to be willing to do it. Collecting the money is a significant portion of the work, and not everyone here can do it, so if you actually expect someone to just go and do it for free then this will truly never end.

Dave

[demik]

that and you'll need more than one person.

the govt will start asking questions when 20-30k goes into your account out the blue.

also, i think im going to cut it down to one set. im almost at 300 for 2 sets and an RGB set.

way too much.

[Jophess]

I'm going to have to back out of this. Spending the same price on caps as I did on the board doesn't sit well with me.

[7bit]

open up your eyes 7bit, i don't sell gamer kits. i would like to trade unused parts of gamerkits.... tztztz.
double wrong

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now i know for shure there is something wrong with you.

Nothing wrong with me! These keys might be useful to some.

Sorry that trying to please everyone and low prices don't go well together.

[s7e]

Alright, sad to say but I am going to have to back out of this as well... Too many changes too many options that get dropped over and over, prices still going up. Sorry for wasting time of anybody that has helped with this. You should have only had a few options from the start not keep adding options that are not even going to be available to order. I won't pay $90 for a TKL double shot kit, $70 was already pushing it beyond my limits.

[Ragnorock]

I'm hoping you realize by now that high prices don't please anyone.

[lightsout714]

Sorry, but I'm not paying $90+ for some doubleshots. I will run my own group buy in a few weeks or so at the $65 for 25 sets or $47 for 50 sets if we get enough buyers. I'll leave my preorder in just in case you manage to bring the price back down, but I highly doubt that will happen nor do I expect that this will ever end. Anyone interested in paying reasonable prices I encourage to look for that.

Also, while I am certainly not interested in collecting the money for you, I do have something to say about it- You're going to need to offer some sort of shared profit if you expect someone to be willing to do it. Collecting the money is a significant portion of the work, and not everyone here can do it, so if you actually expect someone to just go and do it for free then this will truly never end.

Dave

Are you able to do a GB from SP and get caps at those prices?

What is the reason for the prices in this GB to keep going up. Doesn't SP quote a price at the beginning.

[hazeluff]

Yeah, 7Bit.

115 for the retro kit hurts too much. I'll stay in until money needs to be collected, but I'm probably gonna bail at some point.

Sorry
I scored a goal in hockey tonight (first one for the team this season). It was in your name and I drank to it.

[demik]

Yeah in sticking with a retro set till the end, then I'm going to decide if it's worth it or not.

[dorkvader]

Yeah, 7Bit.

115 for the retro kit hurts too much. I'll stay in until money needs to be collected, but I'm probably gonna bail at some point.

Sorry
I scored a goal in hockey tonight (first one for the team this season). It was in your name and I drank to it.

A had a night in with my roommate with cheese, wine, and lettuce. I drank for round4 and 7bit, too.

[Ragnorock]

Are you able to do a GB from SP and get caps at those prices?

What is the reason for the prices in this GB to keep going up. Doesn't SP quote a price at the beginning.

The prices keep going up because he doesn't have enough quantity to put in an order of any significant amount for any keyset. Because they are less than the minimum order size quoted, usually 25, the price per set keeps going up because it costs a lot more for a single or handful of sets than it does for 25- setup costs are huge when you're doing such low quantities of several different sets.

Yes I am able to do a group buy from SP for those prices. I had already been quoted that when I made my original interest check thread that is now on like the 2nd or 3rd page of the group buy section, see that thread for more info.