[GB] Double shot replacements ROUND FOUR! - SHIPPING!

[Zehkul]

More than 250 caps for blank PBTs, white and black, yay! (There are BLANKSTD sets missing in your summary list, by the way)

I'd love to give you a reason to not throw out symbols, but sadly I can't really find many. Maybe remove many keys from those sets? Return and shift arrows are more important than pageup, etc., imo. Just my opinion though.

[Thion]

Considering the RGB/WHITE(BLACK) Modifiers:

I will remove them from SPH, RETRO and ORANGE.

Sorry, really.
*in tears*

Could the Kits be merged so there will be at least one kit with color-cap modifiers?

[7bit]

Considering the RGB/WHITE(BLACK) Modifiers:

Could the Kits be merged so there will be at least one kit with color-cap modifiers?

Too few orders => too expensive.

If there are only a few keys per shape and color, prices are insane.

Sorry, but no RGB-background colors for modifiers.

[inaneframe]

Step 1 Remove all styles
Step 2 Replace with blank true black alphanum & dark grey modifier spherical style.
Step 3 ?
Step 4 Cabo!

[dorkvader]

I thought step3 was always "profit"
As long as "glider" is still here.

I'm considering "lightening" my order: change to TKL, reconsider what modifiers I need, etc.

[kungfugeek]

is there no gamerkit in round3/orange anymore?  How do I piece one together if not?

[7bit]

is there no gamerkit in round3/orange anymore?  How do I piece one together if not?

There is ROUND3/GAMER/ORANGE which comes in orange on very dark grey.

Sorry, but these kits with standalone colors had to go!

[7bit]

Step 1 Remove all styles
Step 2 Replace with blank true black alphanum & dark grey modifier spherical style.
Step 3 ?
Step 4 Cabo!

Step 1: tighten up everything (remove the expensive crap):
almost done!
Step 2: wait until the ship does not sink anymore:
we did not sink further since yesterday.
Step 3: Introduce kits with reduced number of keys:
Some people will use an RGB kit so they don't need Shift, Control, Alt from their STANDARD/TKL kits.

There will be some RETRO/TKLRGBY kit for example.

Synergy effects:
NOIR/RGB........................6
NOIR/RGBY.......................4
NOIR/RGBY100WIN.................1
NOIR/RGBY125....................2
NOIR/RGBY125WIN.................2
NOIR/RGBYSH225..................1
NOIR/RGBYSH275..................3
NOIR/SYMBOLSRGB.................1
NOIR/SYMBOLSRGBISO..............1

use BLOOD legends to reduce the price (ie re-calculate the price).

Add CHERRYBLACKRGBY which comes in the same colors as NOIR/RGBY.

Anybody in for a yellow on black kit?

[inaneframe]

Step 3: Introduce kits with reduced number of keys:
Some people will use an RGB kit so they don't need Shift, Control, Alt from their STANDARD/TKL kits.

There will be some RETRO/TKLRGBY kit for example.

Synergy effects:
NOIR/RGB........................6
NOIR/RGBY.......................4
NOIR/RGBY100WIN.................1
NOIR/RGBY125....................2
NOIR/RGBY125WIN.................2
NOIR/RGBYSH225..................1
NOIR/RGBYSH275..................3
NOIR/SYMBOLSRGB.................1
NOIR/SYMBOLSRGBISO..............1

I'd say you've got a little work ahead of you, I do not envy you that!

Might I suggest you enlist help?

Go make some trackable short links:

http://tiny.cc/

Assign one to each person that wishes to take part in this program and offer to knock a couple bucks off their total order based upon the traffic they drive to the "dumb person" wiki and maybe a bump for each visitor that you can verify came through their links and ordered.

[7bit]

I'd say you've got a little work ahead of you, I do not envy you that!

Might I suggest you enlist help?

Go make some trackable short links:

http://tiny.cc/

Assign one to each person that wishes to take part in this program and offer to knock a couple bucks off their total order based upon the traffic they drive to the "dumb person" wiki and maybe a bump for each visitor that you can verify came through their links and ordered.

You are a spam bot, yes?



Just send

RETRO/TKLRGBY

to 7bit_R4.

[JSchool]

Anybody in for a yellow on black kit?

Not me, but if you offer a spherical in Commodore 64 colors I would buy that, and probably wouldn't be the only one.  

[7bit]

Not me, but if you offer a spherical in Commodore 64 colors I would buy that, and probably wouldn't be the only one.  

This surely will not happen in this Round!

[kungfugeek]

There is ROUND3/GAMER/ORANGE which comes in orange on very dark grey.

Sorry, but these kits with standalone colors had to go!

This is not the full gamer kit though, right?  no wasd or arrows?

[Fred]

He considers to to remove BLOOD, NOIR and ORANJE styles.

Also that Symbols crap!

I still don't get why symbols isn't the default style, hah.

[7bit]

This is not the full gamer kit though, right?  no wasd or arrows?

ROUND3/GAMER/ORANGE
ROUND3/GAMER/BLACK


ROUND3/GAMERMINI/ORANGE
ROUND3/GAMERMINI/BLACK


ROUND3/WASD/ORANGE
ROUND3/WASD/BLACK

And then there is the ROUND3/GAMER kit which comes in the ROUND3 color-scheme and therefore does not have A-Z keys and is cheaper!!!

[7bit]

I still don't get why symbols isn't the default style, hah.

NOIR/STDSYM
NOIR/TKLSYM

With symbols for
Escape
Backspace
Scroll Lock
Tab
Delete
Caps Lock
Return
2x Shift
7x Modifier

STANDARD:
additional row 4 Delete symbol
Enter

Text-arrows from SP

I will calculate the prices ...

[s7e]

So what is the deal with the huge price jump? I know ROUND3 started a little higher and started getting cheaper and cheaper (I cant remember the cost of the standard round 3 doubleshot kit, tried searching for it but couldn't find any prices on my invoices/history).

I was hoping to get about ~3 tenkeyless kits and some addons and wasn't wanting to spend over $200, is this not going to be possible? Is this all due to so many different kits/colors/options this round?

The stepped caps lock/control keys, will they fit a Filco? I was hoping the round 3 caps lock stepped version would, but it has an off center stem (i guess for some version of cherry keyboard).

Is there any way to order the new RETRO/STANDARD/GREY with only the keys that are different from RETRO/STANDARD? Actually it might be better to get the RETRO/STANDARD/GREY and then get RETRO/STANDARD alph/num keys since i was wanting all dark gray F-keys anyways.

Hmmm, I also forgot to submit my order before the 16th. But I doubt my ~3 kits would change much. Basically wanting the cheap tenkeyless kits in Retro/Noir. I was wanting the SPH kit, but not sure now since I have never used them and you are not able to get all the correct keys for certain rows (did you ever figure out exactly which rows keys were going to be made?)

Something along this was my going to be my order a few days ago:

RETRO/TKL
RETRO/SPACE
RETRO/SPACE/DARKGRAY
RETRO/FUNCTION12
RETRO/RGBY
RETRO/RGBY/WHITE

NOIR/TKL
NOIR/SPACE
NOIR/RGBY/WHITE

SPH/TKL
SPH/SPACE
SPH/SPACE/BLUE
SPH/FUNCTION12

But maybe I will just change SPH for the new retro/grey kit. Also thinking of getting the noir symbols as well. it really comes down to what the prices are going to be. I don't want to say I am going to order 3 kits, then the prices be $90 a kit and me have to back out like I feel a lot of people are going to do after this jump in price. In the RGBY kits, etc, is there a way to only get the keys for standard Filco? Those kits have a lot of keys that I will never have a use for.

[Brendan]

ALPHA Round 3 kit not showing up for me?

[7bit]

ALPHA Round 3 kit not showing up for me?

Just re-submit your order. Nothing arrived here.

[7bit]

So what is the deal with the huge price jump? I know ROUND3 started a little higher and started getting cheaper and cheaper (I cant remember the cost of the standard round 3 doubleshot kit, tried searching for it but couldn't find any prices on my invoices/history).

Higher prices from SP. No volume discount accross colors.

I was hoping to get about ~3 tenkeyless kits and some addons and wasn't wanting to spend over $200, is this not going to be possible? Is this all due to so many different kits/colors/options this round?

Too many color options. Better order some SPH or RETRO stuff. Chances are good they will be cheaper in the end.

The stepped caps lock/control keys, will they fit a Filco? I was hoping the round 3 caps lock stepped version would, but it has an off center stem (i guess for some version of cherry keyboard).

Stepped Caps for Filco is not possible, becuaseb Filco did it right and they have a center stem. Only Cherry messed this up, except for G80-8200 and G80-2510.

Maybe I offer the Caps Lock keys separately, like the space bars.

They are quite expensive.

Is there any way to order the new RETRO/STANDARD/GREY with only the keys that are different from RETRO/STANDARD? Actually it might be better to get the RETRO/STANDARD/GREY and then get RETRO/STANDARD alph/num keys since i was wanting all dark gray F-keys anyways.

I've thought about this.

Something like

RETRO/STDALNUM
RETRO/STDMOD
STDALNUM would contain all lightblue on lightgrey stuff and
STDMOD would contain all the lightblue on darkgrey  stuff....

Hmmm, I also forgot to submit my order before the 16th. But I doubt my ~3 kits would change much. Basically wanting the cheap tenkeyless kits in Retro/Noir. I was wanting the SPH kit, but not sure now since I have never used them and you are not able to get all the correct keys for certain rows (did you ever figure out exactly which rows keys were going to be made?)

Something along this was my going to be my order a few days ago:

RETRO/TKL
RETRO/SPACE
RETRO/SPACE/DARKGRAY
RETRO/FUNCTION12
RETRO/RGBY
RETRO/RGBY/WHITE

NOIR/TKL
NOIR/SPACE
NOIR/RGBY/WHITE

SPH/TKL
SPH/SPACE
SPH/SPACE/BLUE
SPH/FUNCTION12

Whaaaaaaaa!!!!! Your order changes EVERYTHING!!!

If you order these many kits, I guarantee an immediate price drop of about $PERCENTAGE !!!!

But maybe I will just change SPH for the new retro/grey kit. Also thinking of getting the noir symbols as well. it really comes down to what the prices are going to be. I don't want to say I am going to order 3 kits, then the prices be $90 a kit and me have to back out like I feel a lot of people are going to do after this jump in price. In the RGBY kits, etc, is there a way to only get the keys for standard Filco? Those kits have a lot of keys that I will never have a use for.

There are the TKLRGBY and STDRGBY kits!!!

[Minas]

I was wondering what the "Home" key is going to say on the RETRO style keycaps?  One set of picture says "Home" and the other says "Begin".  

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[7bit]

I was wondering what the "Home" key is going to say on the RETRO style keycaps?  One set of picture says "Home" and the other says "Begin".  

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As you can see, the STANDARD kits contain both!


Same for the TENKLESS.

[F u r u y á]

why LOD costs $4.00 when it has #50 orders?

ORANJE/GEEKHACK costs $1.00 and it has #12 orders!

[7bit]

why LOD costs $4.00 when it has #50 orders?

ORANJE/GEEKHACK costs $1.00 and it has #12 orders!

Wait! Only 50?

Now it costs $6.

No, just kidding.

It is a stand-alone color combination so it is quite expensive. Also, SVG graphics keys cost a bit more anyway.
ORANJE/GEEKHACK is orange on very dark grey, which is the normal color of the ORANJE style.

[inaneframe]

You are a spam bot, yes?

Obviously, what would I know?  I'll take that as you're not being interested in help.

[7bit]

Obviously, what would I know?  I'll take that as you're not being interested in help.

You offered a link to some obscure website. How can that be helpful?

The only help I need is more orders.

Then prices go down and then come more orders, etc.

[BiNiaRiS]

I know these are still preorder prices, but any reason why GEEKHACK went from $20 to $50? That is an incredibly huge price hike. $6.25 per geekhack cap is pretty expensive for caps they have already made before.

[7bit]

I know these are still preorder prices, but any reason why GEEKHACK went from $20 to $50? That is an incredibly huge price hike. $6.25 per geekhack cap is pretty expensive for caps they have already made before.

These are 6 different custom lengends on 8 key caps:



45*6/7 == 38.571428571
Then the key caps themselves.

Maybe it will only be $40 in the end.

It might be cheaper, we just take normal text legends for these, so the price would be around $5 or $6 for those 8 keys (white on very dark grey).

g e e k h a c k

[godofdeath]

want noir to be down to 60 again

[BiNiaRiS]

These are 6 different custom lengends on 8 key caps:

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45*6/7 == 38.571428571
Then the key caps themselves.

Maybe it will only be $40 in the end.

It might be cheaper, we just take normal text legends for these, so the price would be around $5 or $6 for those 8 keys (white on very dark grey).

g e e k h a c k

Ah, that makes sense. I thought the kit was something else. I was looking for the Geek Hack doubleshot caps that iMav has done. I thought it was a set of 1 of each of the colors that have been made in the past. Damn.

[forenleser0815]

@7Bit

In your start post is this picture for the noir standard kit:
http://deskthority.net/w/images/3/37/Round4_Noir.png
^^ without text like "end" and arrows at the number block keys.

but inside wiki is this picture for the noir standard kit:
http://deskthority.net/w/images/b/b6/NOIR_STANDARD.png

so.. what do i get if i order the noir standard kit?

[tsangan]

Ah, that makes sense. I thought the kit was something else. I was looking for the Geek Hack doubleshot caps that iMav has done. I thought it was a set of 1 of each of the colors that have been made in the past. Damn.

I want those too!

[inaneframe]

You offered a link to some obscure website. How can that be helpful?

It was one example of a website that can provide trackable links.

Now you have this groupbuy on multiple sites, right?  You do that to expand your customer base.  Well you have a very wide base of people to start with, some of these people have gaming guilds, clubs, fansites, etc.

The point is interpersonal networking, not spamming.  You have a product you need to sell more of and you have the means to do it but most of the guys on here don't have as much incentive to inform a lot of other people.  Just making a suggestion.

[demik]

do you have a RETRO/TENKLESSRGBY or is it just RETRO/TKLRGBY?

i believe you said TENKLESS had more extra keys compared to TKL, but if you offer the RGBY included in the TENKLESS i think i'd be saving quite a bit of money.

[7bit]

Ah, that makes sense. I thought the kit was something else. I was looking for the Geek Hack doubleshot caps that iMav has done. I thought it was a set of 1 of each of the colors that have been made in the past. Damn.

You can order:
ROUND3/GEEKHACK.................8
RETRO/GEEKHACK.................13
ORANJE/GEEKHACK................12
each costs $1 per key!

[7bit]

It was one example of a website that can provide trackable links.

Now you have this groupbuy on multiple sites, right?  You do that to expand your customer base.  Well you have a very wide base of people to start with, some of these people have gaming guilds, clubs, fansites, etc.

The point is interpersonal networking, not spamming.  You have a product you need to sell more of and you have the means to do it but most of the guys on here don't have as much incentive to inform a lot of other people.  Just making a suggestion.

Well, then carry on and tell the others!

[7bit]

do you have a RETRO/TENKLESSRGBY or is it just RETRO/TKLRGBY?

i believe you said TENKLESS had more extra keys compared to TKL, but if you offer the RGBY included in the TENKLESS i think i'd be saving quite a bit of money.

I should have added RGBY as a color option ...

OK, so there will be a TENKLESS RGBY kit. Just have to find a name for it ...

[demik]

sweet, going to adjust my order as soon as you figure out a name

[Tarkoon]

OK, so there will be a TENKLESS RGBY kit. Just have to find a name for it ...

If I want that with additional DE kit - how do I get the shorter ISO shift key matching RGBY?

[7bit]

If I want that with additional DE kit - how do I get the shorter ISO shift key matching RGBY?

Help yourself:

Code: [Select]


RGBYSH100          |  1|  1|Green Shift kit (1.25 unit Shift)
RGBYSH125          |  1|  2|Green Shift kit (1.25 unit Shift)
RGBYSH150          |  1|2.5|Green Shift kit (1.5 units Shift)
RGBYSH175          |  1|  4|Green Shift kit (1.75 units Shift)
RGBYSH200          |  1|  4|Green Shift kit (2 units Shift)
RGBYSH225          |  1|4.5|Green Shift kit (2.25 units Shift)
RGBYSH275          |  1|4.5|Green Shift kit (2.75 units Shift)


[7bit]

@7Bit

In your start post is this picture for the noir standard kit:
http://deskthority.net/w/images/3/37/Round4_Noir.png
^^ without text like "end" and arrows at the number block keys.

but inside wiki is this picture for the noir standard kit:
http://deskthority.net/w/images/b/b6/NOIR_STANDARD.png

so.. what do i get if i order the noir standard kit?

^^^This

[BiNiaRiS]

You can order:
ROUND3/GEEKHACK.................8
RETRO/GEEKHACK.................13
ORANJE/GEEKHACK................12
each costs $1 per key!

I'll add those for sure.

Would it be too late to add a package like I thought it was? I think that would be pretty cool to have a set of all the geek hack keys that have been made.

[dorkvader]

Hey 7bit,
I wanted to order the keys in that image of your 7bit phantom. The caption says it's SPH/TKL with SPH/POS (which I didn't want) and SPH/NUMERIC and SPH/MODIFIER I was looking for that tiny return key, etc. What kit has that one?

Basically, I wanted to trick out my 7bit phantom in a similar way, but I'm not sure what kits I need to do that, 'cause I'm going to order those for sure.

[Xingularity]

Of choose it's not too late - we need MOAR KEYS!

[7bit]

I'll add those for sure.

Would it be too late to add a package like I thought it was? I think that would be pretty cool to have a set of all the geek hack keys that have been made.

How should I know which colors had been made?

Also: Some of these might be quite expensive!

For 18 keys, (1 unit) I've got to pay $5.42 per key plus shipping!
12 1.25 units keys are at $8.22 each.
6 J-shape Retun: $16.02 each.

How many will you order?

[7bit]

I've found out that NOIR/RGBY contains keys with red labels which are already in the BLOOD style, so these will be a bit cheaper. Just have to fimnd out how much cheaper ...

People who ordered some  BLOOD kit and want RGBY keys, just need GBY keys, becuase the red keys will have the same color. So this will be cheaper too.

You can order now:

BLOOD/STDRGBY
BLOOD/TKLRGBY
BLOOD/RGB
BLOOD/RGBY
...



Also, since yesterday, the number of ordered key caps is floating around between 55,000 and 56,000.

[Oxblood]

reducing the kits is not the right way.

We need more orders!

Along these lines, doesn't it makes sense to just force everyone to get STANDARD?
This way you don't have people bailing because they don't get a full set and those "cheapskates" will benefit from bulk orders and will just have to deal with a couple extra keys?

[JSchool]

Along these lines, doesn't it makes sense to just force everyone to get STANDARD?
This way you don't have people bailing because they don't get a full set and those "cheapskates" will benefit from bulk orders and will just have to deal with a couple extra keys?

I've been wondering about this too.  I'd be willing to bump up to standard on the sets i'm ordering if this is the case.

[7bit]

Along these lines, doesn't it makes sense to just force everyone to get STANDARD?
This way you don't have people bailing because they don't get a full set and those "cheapskates" will benefit from bulk orders and will just have to deal with a couple extra keys?

Then come the people that are complaning that they have to buy so many extra keys they never need ....

With those many different keyboards, a kit is never right for everybody.

[Oxblood]

Then come the people that are complaning that they have to buy so many extra keys they never need ....

With those many different keyboards, a kit is never right for everybody.

But by making sets that are simpler, eliminating 2/3 of the different sets. Shouldn't that make prices go down, cater to more people, and make ordering and processing easier?
If all people had to do was pick between style and colour you wouldn't have 4 code boxes for the key list.

Personally the more I look at this, the more I am inclined to say that you should only run BLACK/WHITE and WHITE/BLACK and then send people a pack of Rit dye and some instructions.