Author Topic: My keyboard pings. What should I do? (Read 15500 times)

Finax · « **on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 18:29:35 »

I just bought the Majestouch-2 from keyboardco with cherry brown switches and after a few hours of use I can notice a distinct echo-y pingy sound when I hit a key. It's not noticeable with headphones+music playing, but frankly, for a £115 keyboard I'd expect to be able to use it regardless of whether I'm listening to music.

So what is my next step? Should I RMA and ask for the same keyboard again? I've been reading around and this seems like a common issue - I'm worried of being returned another keyboard with the same issue.

I've contacted keyboardco and they should respond tomorrow.

Does this problem come up with Majestouch-1s? I might exchange my Maj-2 for the earlier version.

Finax · « **Reply #1 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 18:42:07 »

I did look at a lot of reviews and forum discussions and the times when the 'ping' noise comes up were brushed off as a one off problem.

Why should I sell it? Then I'd be out of a keyboard and lose money. Seems better to RMA and hope to get one that doesn't ping.

keyboardlover · « **Reply #2 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 21:09:33 »

If you hate it, RMA it.

noodles256 · « **Reply #3 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 21:14:20 »

my keyboard pings. its just a filco thing

The Solutor · « **Reply #4 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 21:27:51 »

Quote from: Finax;394348

I just bought the Majestouch-2 from keyboardco with cherry brown switches and after a few hours of use I can notice a distinct echo-y pingy sound when I hit a key. It's not noticeable with headphones+music playing, but frankly, for a £115 keyboard I'd expect to be able to use it regardless of whether I'm listening to music.
.

If your board has just one or two pinging switches like mine

[video=youtube;wNND9kaWP6s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNND9kaWP6s[/video]

You can either rma it or fix the board yourself (it's just matter of desoldering the switch opening and reassembling it)

If the whole keyboard has an ecoing or ringing sound is better to sell it and get a decent board, because it's clearly the result of poor project choices.

noodles256 · « **Reply #5 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 21:31:57 »

nice finger

The Solutor · « **Reply #6 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 21:36:08 »

Quote from: noodles256;394424

nice finger

Do you want to see the middle finger too ? :biggrin1:

Finax · « **Reply #7 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 21:45:36 »

Quote from: The Solutor;394422

If your board has just one or two pinging switches like mine

[video=youtube;wNND9kaWP6s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNND9kaWP6s[/video]

You can either rma it or fix the board yourself (it's just matter of desoldering the switch opening and reassembling it)

If the whole keyboard has an ecoing or ringing sound is better to sell it and get a decent board, because it's clearly the result of poor project choices.

Is that majestouch-1 or 2? My whole keyboard is echo-y and I'm planning to RMA it. Do you mean sell it and buy another keyboard? At this point I can get a refund, I'd hope. I've had it under a day.

The Solutor · « **Reply #8 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 22:23:00 »

It's a majestouch 2.

It has a single pinging switch and has also the echoing problem on the whole keyboard (knocking on the back of the keyboard is like knocking on the back of a guitar).

They are two different problems.

I had the former also on my Xarmor (and I' fixed it quickly) and ai saw it even on a brand new never used switch. I think that more or less one switch over 100 is affected.

Instead the latter problem is completely absent on both my xarmor and qpad and other boards I own and maybe is less pronounced on majestouch 1 because they lack the latest "improvements" (:pound:) like the different PCB.

noodles256 · « **Reply #9 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 22:28:17 »

Quote from: The Solutor;394427

Do you want to see the middle finger too ? :biggrin1:

such a crab

HaiiYaa · « **Reply #10 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 22:30:10 »

Double layers is adopted for a new board. Through a hole of each switch has been firmly soldered.
With this, it can release any excess load or vibration that you make when you type in to a board not only to a metal plate inside. It enables you to enjoy a better typing feel!

The Solutor · « **Reply #11 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 22:31:57 »

Quote from: HaiiYaa;394443

Double layers is adopted for a new board. Through a hole of each switch has been firmly soldered.
With this, it can release any excess load or vibration that you make when you type in to a board not only to a metal plate inside. It enables you to enjoy a better typing feel!

In simpler words marketing bull****.

The Solutor · « **Reply #12 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 22:34:01 »

Quote from: noodles256;394440

such a crab

:kiss:

Trueepower · « **Reply #13 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 22:35:12 »

Quote from: Finax;394359

I did look at a lot of reviews and forum discussions and the times when the 'ping' noise comes up were brushed off as a one off problem.

Why should I sell it? Then I'd be out of a keyboard and lose money. Seems better to RMA and hope to get one that doesn't ping.

I've bought four cherry boards, and two of them were Filco Linear R's. The first one didn't have a echo, but the stabilizers were extremely loose (which is probably normal on a lot of cherry boards). The second Filco had a echo. As Solutor said there are two different versions of a ping. It can happen on any board, not just a Filco. I had it on a Mionix as well. I would RMA it. Then just buy another one, and keep doing that until you get one that is good.

When you pay that much money as you said, you should get something that doesn't have that problem.

HaiiYaa · « **Reply #14 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 22:35:36 »

Quote from: The Solutor;394445

In simpler words marketing bull****.

With this keyboard, you don't need any other pretentious keyboards!

Finax · « **Reply #15 on:** Sat, 06 August 2011, 23:18:52 »

Heh, thanks for the suggestions. I've heard Keyboardco is cool about these things so I'll RMA.

Here is a quick sound sample I took on my iphone.

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not sure how to do the GH sound player thing.

Finax · « **Reply #16 on:** Mon, 08 August 2011, 18:24:06 »

Keyboardco said they aint going to RMA it. How can I fix this myself? Would WD-40 White Lithium work?

The Solutor · « **Reply #17 on:** Mon, 08 August 2011, 18:27:01 »

Quote from: Finax;395464

Keyboardco said they aint going to RMA it. How can I fix this myself? Would WD-40 White Lithium work?

No need to lube, just desolder the switch, open and reassemble it, and then solder it again.

100% guaranteed it works.

To be clear I mean the Ping that affects some single switches, not the ring that affects the whole filco keyboards.

The Solutor · « **Reply #18 on:** Mon, 08 August 2011, 21:15:45 »

Quote from: ripster;395521

Try The Solutor's method. I'm curious if it works.

Before

[video=youtube;wNND9kaWP6s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNND9kaWP6s&feature=related[/video]

After

[video=youtube;ngsh9P32-Ok]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsh9P32-Ok[/video]

Judge yourself

The Solutor · « **Reply #19 on:** Mon, 08 August 2011, 22:11:45 »

Quote from: ripster;395591

I like the first video better.

I was younger when I did the first one...:pout:

hella · « **Reply #20 on:** Mon, 08 August 2011, 22:18:03 »

Wow, that's some intense pinging Solutor. Low pinging doesn't bother me (like the slight ping in buckling spring keyboards) because you literally have to have your ear on the keyboard to hear it. However that would have drove me insane.

Bry · « **Reply #21 on:** Mon, 08 August 2011, 22:20:37 »

I have a couple keys that ping. I kinda like it.

The Solutor · « **Reply #22 on:** Mon, 08 August 2011, 22:36:14 »

Quote from: hella;395606

However that would have drove me insane.

Instead I was really satisfied.

I bought a filco mainly with the purpose to experiment in first person with its issues, i offered a free fix to anyone wanted to pay the shipment with the same purpose (and no one answered).

So I can say I'm really satisfied: one shot, one hit :happy:

keyboardlover · « **Reply #23 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 07:58:04 »

Quote from: ripster;395591

It's a MECHANICAL switch after all. Makes me feel more productive when it pings.

Must be a side effect from not working.

hella · « **Reply #24 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 09:12:12 »

Hey, that's awesome

. One mans trash is another mans treasure.

keyboardlover · « **Reply #25 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 10:22:04 »

Quote from: ripster;395809

At least The Solutor has proposed a fix while I troll the issue.

Fixed for you.

Also, if that's what you call entitlement, what do you call threatening to move your wikis to another site unless a troll poll gets deleted that you won?

Or your Sig pic that only makes you look worse?

redpill · « **Reply #26 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 10:25:41 »

Quote from: ripster;394459

I feel your ping.

RMA it and get a RealForce Silent for $345 or the HHKB Silent for $579.

Here comes the disinfo campaign again. Stop lying ripster. He doesn't need to buy a Topre to get a quiet mechanical. The vast majority of keyboards with plate mounted cherry switches don't ring at all. He got a defective Filco. That's not his fault, so lay off.

Regel · « **Reply #27 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 10:33:48 »

I bought a Majestouch-2 with Blue switches a month ago, and only the backspace has thing pinging issue. Incentive to type less mistakes

It does ping/ring when you knock on the back of the keyboard, like the Solutor suggested, but why the hell would you want to knock on the back of your keyboard anyway?

iMav · « **Reply #28 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 10:44:46 »

Bottom line, IF it is a switch issue, then it IS a QUALITY CONTROL issue for every vendor (and reseller) that let's one of these through.

Plenty of blame to go around. If is it an easy fix, let's make sure the end users with the issues have the info they need. If it is a larger issue with their 'board that they either can't or don't feel comfortable fixing themselves, then the reseller and/or vendor should make it right.

No need to bicker and split hairs...

iMav · « **Reply #29 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 11:29:03 »

Quote from: ripster;395846

Well Amazon will take returns for 30 days, The Keyboard Company will not RMA for Ping, and my assumption is Elitekeyboards has a 100% Ping Free guarantee from the way he talked about the issue previously.

Yeah. Elitekeyboards has claimed that they single-handedly boosted the Filco quality rep in the US based on their thorough testing/screening of the 'boards before shipping. That is what a reseller SHOULD do AFAIC.

keyboardlover · « **Reply #30 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 12:15:12 »

Quote from: ripster;395822

But sorry if I've offended the T-Ball Generation. It must be hard growing up in a country that lost it's AAA rating and has no jobs.

Pot, kettle, black.

keyboardlover · « **Reply #31 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 12:21:47 »

I've noticed that most rich people lack empathy. Ripster is no exception.

magictoaster · « **Reply #32 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 12:28:14 »

Quote from: keyboardlover;395886

I've noticed that most rich people lack empathy. Ripster is no exception.

Ripster is rich???

magictoaster · « **Reply #33 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 12:31:50 »

Quote from: ripster;395893

Rich in knowledge.

Please see Sig for more info.

I would not argue with that!

magictoaster · « **Reply #34 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 12:33:10 »

Quote from: kalrykh;395895

rich in ego.

A good and healthy ego is always nice.

noodles256 · « **Reply #35 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 12:48:10 »

I'll take ping for 500

magictoaster · « **Reply #36 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 12:55:31 »

I feel the love in this thread!

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HaiiYaa · « **Reply #37 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 12:59:22 »

Quote from: kalrykh;395906

I stopped trying to contribute when you went insane, attacking everyone, trolling, and acting like you were entitled. I don't have much tolerance for a community that condones and even encourages that. I imagine once my poker comes in, I'll be done with this place for good. It's sad, really. iMav worked real hard putting this place together and building it up and you've single handedly turned it into a running joke.

The sooner you leave the better.

But ripster, keyboardlover and noodles should learn when to joke and when to be serious.

Like this guy http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?20720-Best-Game-to-test-out-your-newkeyboard why not help him instead of turning the whole thread into a troll thread?

keyboardlover · « **Reply #38 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 13:03:25 »

Well, someone in that thread won the troll poll. Then threatened to move their wikis until it got deleted.

I'll give you a hint. It wasn't me.

keyboardlover · « **Reply #39 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 13:06:39 »

I think if that were true your margin of winning would have been a little bit less in that poll.

You won by a mile though. Lol.

WINNING!!

keyboardlover · « **Reply #40 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 20:44:09 »

^ needs a different hobby.

guilleguillaume · « **Reply #41 on:** Wed, 10 August 2011, 13:03:42 »

I recommend you to deal with it.

redpill · « **Reply #42 on:** Wed, 10 August 2011, 18:38:53 »

Quote from: guilleguillaume;396520

I recommend you to deal with it.

I don't. People shouldn't be doormats and put up with $150 worth of defective merchandise just because Filco fanboys on a keyboard forum harass them.

redpill · « **Reply #43 on:** Wed, 10 August 2011, 18:55:14 »

That's not a good option. I would recommend fixing them or returning them. But they are defective nonetheless, despite your trolling tangents.

FourOhFour · « **Reply #44 on:** Wed, 10 August 2011, 20:58:48 »

Quote from: ripster;396717

Whenever I post on Ping it's like Ripster Hater Reunion Day!

I wonder if that's because of your posts on ping...

redpill · « **Reply #45 on:** Wed, 10 August 2011, 23:40:06 »

Quote from: ripster;396764

Wah? Read the thread. I told him to RMA it. Not my fault if The Keyboard Company and probably any other keyboard manufacturer considers it a normal thing.

Why do you keep saying 'not my fault' all the time? It's not a normal thing, and this poll proves it.

Quote from: ripster;396764

Ping happens.

Over 80% of keyboards with plate mounted Cherry MX switches in the poll above have little or no audible ping. So no, it usually doesn't "happen." Stop spreading disinfo just because you are butthurt that Filco has some faulty boards.

HaiiYaa · « **Reply #46 on:** Thu, 11 August 2011, 01:10:37 »

All those people hating on ripster is FAR more annoying than ripster can be. Why don't you just put him ignore or talk him, or iMav in private messages?

hella · « **Reply #47 on:** Thu, 11 August 2011, 01:15:36 »

I LOVE ripster. Seriously. His guides helped me out tremendously when I was looking to buy my first mechanical keyboard. No one on the net has contributed as much information to our passion as him.

Lol..But I gotta say, all the e-fights he gets into are actually pretty funny. They break the monotony of geekhack

HaiiYaa · « **Reply #48 on:** Thu, 11 August 2011, 01:17:15 »

Quote from: hella;396859

Lol.. I love ripster. His guides helped me out tremendously when I was looking to buy my first mechanical keyboard. No one on the net has contributed as much information to our passion as him.

But I gotta say, all the e-fights he gets into are actually pretty funny. They break the monotony of geekhack

It isn't funny anymore when every thread turns into a hate ripster thread

keyboardlover · « **Reply #49 on:** Thu, 11 August 2011, 13:49:10 »

It was funny when he won the troll poll for all his ping trolling. Then he flipped **** and it got deleted.

That was an epic thread.

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Author Topic: My keyboard pings. What should I do? (Read 15500 times)