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Offline iMav

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« Reply #100 on: Mon, 22 August 2011, 11:20:44 »
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It was some DuPont brand aerosol lube that I got at Lowe's.  It was called a "teflon dry wax lube" or something like that.

This stuff??

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This is THE BEST lube for motorcycle chains I have ever used (and I've tried a LOT).  Dries in minutes, no fling off the chain, and it doesn't attract dirt/grime.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #101 on: Mon, 22 August 2011, 11:22:40 »
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A ping-travaganza! lol


A ping-uin

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Offline Input Nirvana

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« Reply #102 on: Mon, 22 August 2011, 11:24:34 »
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A ping-uin

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Offline arplod

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« Reply #103 on: Mon, 22 August 2011, 11:33:19 »
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Proper o-rings only change the feel in the last 0.5mm or so of travel (providing a softer landing). Any comparisons to rubber domes is a gross exaggeration.
Not really.

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Anyway, I'd advise against slicing any material for this purpose, as it's very hard achieve the correct thickness and uniformity. Finding a ready sheet of material would be a better bet.

Good point. I'd forgotten to mention that - we can form sheets but it would be extraordinarily tricky with an exacto knife.
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Offline N8N

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« Reply #104 on: Mon, 22 August 2011, 11:37:46 »
Quote from: iMav;403246
This stuff??

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This is THE BEST lube for motorcycle chains I have ever used (and I've tried a LOT).  Dries in minutes, no fling off the chain, and it doesn't attract dirt/grime.


yes, that's the exact stuff.

Wonder if it'd be good on bicycle chains then?  Does it tend to seal out moisture?  (sorry for drifting off topic, but that is something of interest to me, as I used to ride semi-seriously and would like to get back into it, and have also been known to ride in the rain or when it has recently rained...)
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Offline sordna

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o-ring results are highly dependent on the keycap
« Reply #105 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 21:52:39 »
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Quote from: sordna
Proper o-rings only change the feel in the last 0.5mm or so of travel (providing a softer landing). Any comparisons to rubber domes is a gross exaggeration.

Not really.

Yikes, I just tried o-rings on thick cherry doubleshots and they reduced the key travel noticeably, way more than they do on thin keycaps. Looks like the length of stem left after the o-ring installed is crucial. The longer the keycap stem, the less key travel the o-rings are going to affect. Look at the difference between a KBC Poker "O" key and a Cherry "O" key with the same o-ring installed:

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Cherry doubleshots will need thinner o-rings !
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Offline Johannes

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« Reply #106 on: Fri, 02 September 2011, 12:25:44 »
I have a Filco Browns with EK soft-landing pads and the travel isn't reduced much. The feel is still better than cheap rubber domes.
Not all that much better though.. at least lighter and more consistent..
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #107 on: Fri, 02 September 2011, 12:53:27 »
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and more consistent..


Consistence is likely the field where the RD wins hands down over the cherry MX.
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Offline Johannes

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« Reply #108 on: Fri, 02 September 2011, 13:00:22 »
Well that's cow****, the browns are very consistent.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #109 on: Fri, 02 September 2011, 13:02:12 »
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Well that's cow****, the browns are very consistent.


hahaha, they have even 5g of difference from a key to another on a brand new board, not speaking about a worn out one....
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Offline Johannes

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« Reply #110 on: Fri, 02 September 2011, 13:10:31 »
Link?
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #111 on: Fri, 02 September 2011, 13:13:01 »
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Link?


Link ? :twitch:

Use a spare switch and do switch-o-meter test your keyboard yourself.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #112 on: Fri, 02 September 2011, 13:23:22 »
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What's a switch-o-meter?  Is that your stupid spring test?


use the search button if your weak memory doesn't help.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #113 on: Fri, 02 September 2011, 13:38:39 »
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Ahah, it IS the stupid spring test.

What does that measure again?

What is the scale of units?


I'm sure your brain is not developed enough to understand the relative or the dynamometric measurements.

Loser
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #114 on: Fri, 02 September 2011, 13:49:08 »
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The RipOmeter is THAT good!

 

If you are stupid enough to use the ripometer test to test the evenness of a keyboard on a decent number of keys, go ahead, you will get less precise results in 10x the time.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #115 on: Fri, 02 September 2011, 13:50:52 »
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You remind me of this Dutch guy.


I consider it a compliment.
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