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« Reply #350 on: Thu, 10 November 2011, 18:49:06 »
Why is New Orleans USPS always so slow?! :(

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« Reply #351 on: Thu, 10 November 2011, 20:55:49 »
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Why is New Orleans USPS always so slow?! :(

They seem to always be getting bogged down.
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« Reply #352 on: Thu, 10 November 2011, 21:10:54 »
missed this deal and would have loved some sc2 key caps..

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« Reply #353 on: Thu, 10 November 2011, 21:37:38 »
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They seem to always be getting bogged down.

I hope it comes in tomorrow. :(

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« Reply #354 on: Thu, 10 November 2011, 21:42:53 »
Btw if anyone feels like adding some iTrader feedback I'd appreciate it, but I'm not requiring anyone to, its only if you find the time.

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« Reply #355 on: Thu, 10 November 2011, 22:08:45 »
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Btw if anyone feels like adding some iTrader feedback I'd appreciate it, but I'm not requiring anyone to, its only if you find the time.

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« Reply #356 on: Thu, 10 November 2011, 23:29:36 »
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« Reply #357 on: Thu, 10 November 2011, 23:45:37 »
You're a rich man, Clickey.

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« Reply #358 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 02:55:34 »
Hey guys,

Is anyone willing to part with some of their spare keys?

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« Reply #359 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 04:24:38 »
I'm sure there are many of the buyers that plan on selling theirs, I also have leftovers that I will be putting up for sale shortly. They will be at a premium now that they've been discontinued though.

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« Reply #360 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 04:31:48 »
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I'm sure there are many of the buyers that plan on selling theirs, I also have leftovers that I will be putting up for sale shortly. They will be at a premium now that they've been discontinued though.

So they can't be made anymore so you're gonna sell them and make a huge profit now? Cool beans.
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« Reply #361 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 05:47:09 »
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I'm sure there are many of the buyers that plan on selling theirs, I also have leftovers that I will be putting up for sale shortly. They will be at a premium now that they've been discontinued though.


How much of a premium are we talking? Are you planning on selling your spares though the classified section of this site or somewhere else?

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« Reply #362 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 09:03:13 »
i would like to know as well if someone is selling some spare keys. Thanks!!

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« Reply #363 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 13:55:04 »
I'm going to be selling mine for $8 per esc $8.50 per modifier. I know some buyers that are going to sell them for less, and others that are going to sell them for more. Being the one who ran the group buy, I have the most to sell, but I don't have very many. I'd estimate that even the sum of all the keys every buyer bought to sell is less than 50 of each kind.

... Funny thing is, even that price is still lower than the selling price of similar custom doubleshots.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23327-Interest-Check-Customized-key-caps
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« Reply #364 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 15:58:10 »
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So they can't be made anymore so you're gonna sell them and make a huge profit now? Cool beans.

There is nothing wrong with that. He ran the group buy and he has the right to price it as he wants. Not cool with that? Then don't buy them.

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« Reply #365 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 16:03:02 »
Got my keys. Thanks for hosting this GB. Went very smooth and organized for me. Now i'll get to Grand masters in no time!

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So they can't be made anymore so you're gonna sell them and make a huge profit now? Cool beans.

IMO he deserves a little profit for all the time and effort. When it comes down to it, he fronted the money and he can sell it for whatever price he wants. The buyer has the choice to buy or not buy.

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« Reply #366 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 16:11:10 »
Yeah its not like I ever intended for them to stop making them so I could profit a bunch, from the amount of extra I ordered you'd know that I was expecting to run them again. Its just that I'd be an idiot not to sell them for what I can get for them.

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« Reply #367 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 16:17:07 »
We're still on this?
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« Reply #368 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 16:25:38 »
Yeah I guess lol.

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« Reply #369 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 16:37:04 »


Like how the GB gave literally anyone a equal chance in getting a set but complain about prices after the GB ends.

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« Reply #370 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 17:05:42 »
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Like how the GB gave literally anyone a equal chance in getting a set but complain about prices after the GB ends.


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« Reply #371 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 17:39:12 »
Give me a PM if anyone intend to sell 2 Terran Win Keys.
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« Reply #372 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 17:50:01 »
sure, 16 dollars each, I am one upping the OP.

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« Reply #373 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 17:58:42 »
50 dollars each + 75 dollars shipping per keycap, no discounts if combined.
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« Reply #374 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 18:01:15 »
i dont even want one of these keys. all the profiteering off group buys lately is getting out of hand though.
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« Reply #375 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 18:19:29 »
I have an extra Zerg and Terran 1x key if anyone is interested. $20 each?

Also thanks for all these custom keycaps, soooo good!


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« Reply #376 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 18:37:23 »
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50 dollars each + 75 dollars shipping per keycap, no discounts if combined.

Wat a deel mang!!1111. I think the shipping is what makes this deal hawt though.

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« Reply #377 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 18:56:36 »
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Wat a deel mang!!1111. I think the shipping is what makes this deal hawt though.
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« Reply #378 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 19:14:16 »
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I'm going to be selling mine for $8 per esc $8.50 per modifier. I know some buyers that are going to sell them for less, and others that are going to sell them for more. Being the one who ran the group buy, I have the most to sell, but I don't have very many. I'd estimate that even the sum of all the keys every buyer bought to sell is less than 50 of each kind.

... Funny thing is, even that price is still lower than the selling price of similar custom doubleshots.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23327-Interest-Check-Customized-key-caps


is that $8 shipped?

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« Reply #379 on: Fri, 11 November 2011, 19:54:42 »
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Like how the GB gave literally anyone a equal chance in getting a set but complain about prices after the GB ends.
Oh god I lol'd. +1 to you sir, well done.

As for the shipping, I'm doing bubble mailers that will be cheaper than the original options. I really need to just make the damn thread so I don't have to keep repeating myself lol.
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« Reply #380 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 00:51:58 »
I am more than willing to pay the updated prices - however I anxiously await you opening said thread so i can just put my order in and secure myself a set of these babies :)

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« Reply #381 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 05:08:17 »
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Like how the GB gave literally anyone a equal chance in getting a set but complain about prices after the GB ends.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsL-d0p7beLLdGRKSFBhLTRrYVNWd3ZZUEh0NFhyWnc
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« Reply #382 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 07:45:47 »
Meh wish international orders would come faster!

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« Reply #383 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 09:57:10 »
Just wanted to say that I got mine yesterday and they look great! THanks Ragnorock for running this group buy.

In retrospect, I should have purchased a couple hundred and sold them at MLG Providence next week :P

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« Reply #384 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 09:59:53 »
Your math behind the "realistic profit" calculation is entirely wrong lmao.

Also I didn't buy 250 of each kind. I'm sure you're just trying to get people to not buy them from me or anyone and try to drive the price down but it just isn't going to work. I could throw these on eBay for $10 and they'd still be gone in a reasonable enough time to justify it.

Enjoy trolling, nobody cares. I'm not going to make half that theoretical profit, so quit crying and say thanks for doing all this like you should. If you dilute what I'll actually be making down to an hourly wage, it's a reasonable rate.

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« Reply #385 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 10:51:13 »
Since when was there a rule that nobody is allowed to make a significant profit off a GB? Especially the person who took the time and effort to start the GB himself?
He even stated in the first page that he was intending to buy extras to earn some profit. Why didn't you say anything then? Why after the GB?

The majority of people are not retarded enough to sell something out of production and high in demand for the original price. That's just common sense. Why do you think antiques are sold for thousands of dollars?
Hell, i bet if you bought a bunch of these keys after the GB for near the original price you'd end up doing the same thing -_-.

I honestly think $8 is a pretty good deal considering they will never be produced again, unless your willing to get the cheap knockoffs from TaoBao. There's probably less than a thousand keys in the world now and you're arguing that those limited keys be sold for ridiculous low prices. I'm pretty sure these keys will continuously raise in price in the future regardless of what you say.

The man offered his services for ONE dollar for nearly a month to get you these keys. If you seriously didn't want him to earn a living then you should have just bought the keys during the actual GB.

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« Reply #386 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 12:02:43 »
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Since when was there a rule that nobody is allowed to make a significant profit off a GB? Especially the person who took the time and effort to start the GB himself?
He even stated in the first page that he was intending to buy extras to earn some profit. Why didn't you say anything then? Why after the GB?

The majority of people are not retarded enough to sell something out of production and high in demand for the original price. That's just common sense. Why do you think antiques are sold for thousands of dollars?
Hell, i bet if you bought a bunch of these keys after the GB for near the original price you'd end up doing the same thing -_-.

I honestly think $8 is a pretty good deal considering they will never be produced again, unless your willing to get the cheap knockoffs from TaoBao. There's probably less than a thousand keys in the world now and you're arguing that those limited keys be sold for ridiculous low prices. I'm pretty sure these keys will continuously raise in price in the future regardless of what you say.

The man offered his services for ONE dollar for nearly a month to get you these keys. If you seriously didn't want him to earn a living then you should have just bought the keys during the actual GB.

Rag stated that he's doing this because noone else was doing it. He even said he was gonna make a couple bucks out of it. Someone should of said something if they didn't agree. Rag's put a good amount of time/effort into this and he deserves this. By pure luck is his profit larger than what it would be (due to the copyright issues).

But guys, if you wanted the keys/cheaper keys, you should of ordered in this thread from the start. QQ moar.
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« Reply #387 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 13:36:10 »
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Your math behind the "realistic profit" calculation is entirely wrong lmao.

Also I didn't buy 250 of each kind. I'm sure you're just trying to get people to not buy them from me or anyone and try to drive the price down but it just isn't going to work. I could throw these on eBay for $10 and they'd still be gone in a reasonable enough time to justify it.

Enjoy trolling, nobody cares. I'm not going to make half that theoretical profit, so quit crying and say thanks for doing all this like you should. If you dilute what I'll actually be making down to an hourly wage, it's a reasonable rate.

You're right. I was subtracting your price per key from $8 to get a net profit for each one sold. But since you overcharged everyone to start with, they were already paid for which makes them 100% profit. Simple mistake.


And I KNOW you didn't buy 250 each which is why I didn't use those numbers in the realistic profit. Did you highlight it and not read it all? I used the more realistic Winkey numbers with the assumption you bought the minimum amount required to get into the next price bracket. It's all there in the spreadsheet. I didn't hide anything. I highlighted the realistic profit for a reason. The theoretical profit is based on the amount of keys you should have ordered if you would have ordered the most efficient amount. You should have ordered 150 of each key and 75 of the Random which puts the realistic profit right in line.


I updated it to to be more accurate with actual order numbers not double the winkey numbers. Is $30/hour a reasonable rate? You'd have to work 6.5 8hr days to make that little per hour.

If you spent 1.5 hours every single day, all 30 days in a month, you would still be making $35/hr.

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The man offered his services for ONE dollar for nearly a month to get you these keys. If you seriously didn't want him to earn a living then you should have just bought the keys during the actual GB.

One dollar eh? Take a look at the spreadsheet again.
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« Reply #388 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 13:54:28 »
No one is making anyone buy Ragnorock's key caps, if he wanted to sell each key cap for ten grand each, that's his business, you can choose to buy it or not, just like you could choose to buy it from the start of the group buy.  I myself would not resale any extras in my spherical group buy for a profit but thats probably why I am so broke.

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« Reply #389 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 14:52:14 »
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No one is making anyone buy Ragnorock's key caps, if he wanted to sell each key cap for ten grand each, that's his business, you can choose to buy it or not, just like you could choose to buy it from the start of the group buy.  I myself would not resale any extras in my spherical group buy for a profit but thats probably why I am so broke.

You are 100% right. He can do as he pleases. I'm not saying he can't, I'm just posting the facts.

There's a fine line between making enough to cover your time, and making a ton and taking advantage of everyone.
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« Reply #390 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 15:51:34 »
Your facts reflect numbers and only numbers.Your not counting in the factor that nobody was aware that this group buy would be the last and the considerable amount of time it takes to set up and complete a group buy of this magnitude. In fact the people who opted out of NOT participating in the group buy pretty much asked to be taken advantage of. You see this everywhere with pre-orders and post orders.

So what if he made money off of this? This isn't communism. People and businesses all over the world use this method. Buy low sell high. Some make money, some don't.

You yourself said you don't really care about buying these yet you seemed so fixated on interfering with his sales.

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« Reply #391 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 16:25:08 »
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Your facts reflect numbers and only numbers.Your not counting in the factor that nobody was aware that this group buy would be the last and the considerable amount of time it takes to set up and complete a group buy of this magnitude. In fact the people who opted out of NOT participating in the group buy pretty much asked to be taken advantage of. You see this everywhere with pre-orders and post orders.

So what if he made money off of this? This isn't communism. People and businesses all over the world use this method. Buy low sell high. Some make money, some don't.

You yourself said you don't really care about buying these yet you seemed so fixated on interfering with his sales.

This sort of thing does nothing but bring this community down. And I haven't even brought up the fact that these caps are in fact illegal. That's an entirely different story.
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« Reply #392 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 17:02:55 »
First you argue about how much he profits from these keycaps then you bring up that he shouldn't even be selling them because they are illegal? What point are you trying to make here?

If anything group buys bring the community together. How else can you obtain doubleshot keys for low prices? If you missed the group buy, then that's entirely your fault. This doesn't even reflect upon the community.
Profiteering is common sense after a group buy. What price do you want these keys to be? Why do you dictate what prices are good and what prices are bad? If i wanted to sell my lawn chair are you going to tell me what price i should sell it for? I spent money on it, not you. The majority of the community understands this and is always willing to pay more. If the price is too high then they simply don't need to buy it. Nobody is forcing anyone here.

If you can't invest the time to make a post and a pm for a group buy you have no right to complain.
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« Reply #393 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 18:12:02 »
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First you argue about how much he profits from these keycaps then you bring up that he shouldn't even be selling them because they are illegal? What point are you trying to make here?

If anything group buys bring the community together. How else can you obtain doubleshot keys for low prices? If you missed the group buy, then that's entirely your fault. This doesn't even reflect upon the community.
Profiteering is common sense after a group buy. What price do you want these keys to be? Why do you dictate what prices are good and what prices are bad? If i wanted to sell my lawn chair are you going to tell me what price i should sell it for? I spent money on it, not you. The majority of the community understands this and is always willing to pay more. If the price is too high then they simply don't need to buy it. Nobody is forcing anyone here.

If you can't invest the time to make a post and a pm for a group buy you have no right to complain.

You're entitled to your own opinion. I think making $1500 off a group buy is a detriment to the community. I don't see how it helps.

I brought up the legality because he's going to try and make a huge profit now. Before it wasn't an issue.
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« Reply #394 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 18:23:19 »
Can we do another round of these? They just got canceled from the Round 4 replacements. :( My attempt to kill 6 birds with one stone is drastically reduced as I was mostly getting SC keys + a few other assorted keys. Sad Saturday is Sad.

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« Reply #395 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 18:28:45 »
It's about to get sadder.  Round 4 dropped these because of legal concerns with SP.  There won't be any more rounds, ever. :(

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« Reply #396 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 18:30:01 »
there is another keycap company in UK I think that can do custom double shot keycaps.

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« Reply #397 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 19:01:21 »
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You're entitled to your own opinion. I think making $1500 off a group buy is a detriment to the community. I don't see how it helps.

I brought up the legality because he's going to try and make a huge profit now. Before it wasn't an issue.
Yeah it went from covering his time and effort to making a huge profit.  I hope this isn't a new trend.
No, he’s not around. How that sound to ya? Jot it down.

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« Reply #398 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 19:31:26 »
Quote from: BiNiaRiS;450742
You're entitled to your own opinion. I think making $1500 off a group buy is a detriment to the community. I don't see how it helps.

I brought up the legality because he's going to try and make a huge profit now. Before it wasn't an issue.

Legality is a issue if hes making a large profit and not an issue if hes making little profit? What? Thats the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. Its either legal or illegal. There is no median. Blizzard hasn't even filed a copyright lawsuit.


Nobody is forcing you to buy his keys. If his keys are priced outside your range then don't buy them. You keep assuming that every single key will be sold on GH and only GH.
Your set on "helping" the community. Wasn't the GB set up for that purpose? What more do you want?

What does him making a profit have to do with you and everyone at GH? Will your bank fall through because you bought $8 keycaps? Are you going to have to file bankruptcy somehow because you spent at most 32 dollars on 4 keycaps?

Clickey Clacks sell for more than this and somehow the "community" seems to survive surprisingly.
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« Reply #399 on: Sat, 12 November 2011, 19:40:44 »
Whoa whoa whoa, hold on there son.  Biniaris does a ton for this community.  Show me your sale thread with tons of useful parts and rare and custom keyboards for sale.