Phantom Custom Keyboard Group Buy (CLOSED)

[litster]

Hi.  Coming along okay.  We have some of them ordered (teensy, pin headers). The late orders, late payments, non payments, and late order changes slowed us down because we have to keep updating the order list.  Bad.  BiNiaRiS and I will get most of the rest parts ordered this weekend.  Switches will still have to wait for 7bit closes his group buy.

At least now I have 7bit on my IM so I can chat with him, if he is online.

[litster]

Probably.  I still have to make another 40 pieces of 7x Costar stabilizer bars.  I could be the long pole.  If you ordered switches with your other Phantom parts, they will be shipped together, not separately.  If you didn't order switches with your other Phantom parts, then it will depend on how the shipping process is organized by BiNiaRiS and 7bit.  They could choose to ship out whatever is ready to ship out first, or they could choose to ship them all together because that is how they sort the parts and ship.  Batching is always easier to manage and faster overall than doing them separately.

[hazeluff]

Probably.  I still have to make another 40 pieces of 7x Costar stabilizer bars.  I could be the long pole.  If you ordered switches with your other Phantom parts, they will be shipped together, not separately.  If you didn't order switches with your other Phantom parts, then it will depend on how the shipping process is organized by BiNiaRiS and 7bit.  They could choose to ship out whatever is ready to ship out first, or they could choose to ship them all together because that is how they sort the parts and ship.  Batching is always easier to manage and faster overall than doing them separately.

So can I add more switches...?

[litster]

you do bank transfer with 7bit directly, right?  I think he is still taking payments.  Paypal to BiNiaRiS will drive him and I up the walls.  :-)

[hazeluff]

you do bank transfer with 7bit directly, right?  I think he is still taking payments.  Paypal to BiNiaRiS will drive him and I up the walls.  :-)

I paypal'd so I'll leave it. I'm sure there is someone who has extras. Or I could grab them elsewhere, no problems.

[Kisakuku]

Well, the problem is 7Bit now has MXWHITE switches in there, which were not available prior to payment deadline. I'd like to try some out, but don't want to drive anybody up the wall either.

[litster]

:frusty:

How many of you want to add to orders?

[WhiteFireDragon]

:frusty:

How many of you want to add to orders?

Instead, can we take off some items? I realized the 7bit plate is not practical for a case or keycaps . I bought 2 plates, would like to take off the 7bit one if possible.

[litster]

Add, not minus or change.

[litster]

Sorry, I was being a jerk.  The thing is, the switch group buy and the Phantom are tied at the hip for better or worse.  The Phantom group buy is locked.  We are not Amazon with an inventory system and can make order changes on the fly.  Even with Amazon you can't change your orders after it is in production.  We are in production.  It is just that our production period is longer.  There are a lot of things to sort out behind the scene.  We already ordered some parts.  It is a real pain to keep changing the order list and keeping track of money coming in and out *after* it is closed.  The only other option is to cancel your order and we give you a refund.  We can't keep letting people change their orders to no end.

Sorry.

[Kisakuku]

I completely understand that the Phantom GB is locked. I was only asking about the switches and only because I can't pay 7bit directly. No biggie though.

[mkawa]

fwiw i am 100% set and anxiously awaiting parts delivery

[hashbaz]

Wait, white switches?  Don't tell me to RTFW.

[fruktstund]

Wait, white switches?  Don't tell me to RTFW.

It's as if these have just sprung out of nowhere really. Saw a thread (this one) over at Deskthority the other day and was quite surprised as I'd read the day before that these had gone out of production in 1987.

[hashbaz]

Thanks for the link!

Another kind of clicky switch?  Do want.  This is kind of a big deal ... I'm willing to drive Bini up the wall to get these.  7bit/litster, instructions?  Should I just PM Phantom again, or order through Deskthority?

[dirge]

Sorry, I was being a jerk.  The thing is, the switch group buy and the Phantom are tied at the hip for better or worse.  The Phantom group buy is locked.  We are not Amazon with an inventory system and can make order changes on the fly.  Even with Amazon you can't change your orders after it is in production.  We are in production.  It is just that our production period is longer.  There are a lot of things to sort out behind the scene.  We already ordered some parts.  It is a real pain to keep changing the order list and keeping track of money coming in and out *after* it is closed.  The only other option is to cancel your order and we give you a refund.  We can't keep letting people change their orders to no end.

Sorry.

I totally understand, if anyone cancels an order I'll have it

also bring on Phantom 2! lol

[tsangan]

we can just order some from keyboardco, dunno if there's a MOQ for it though, I believe sixty got his there

[Autolyze]

Does anyone feel like putting together a separate white switch GB? I'm sure there would be a number of takers. I don't suppose The Keyboard Company offers discounts for bulk orders?

[7bit]

Does anyone feel like putting together a separate white switch GB? I'm sure there would be a number of takers. I don't suppose The Keyboard Company offers discounts for bulk orders?

Just send a meassage to Phantom and order MXWHITE.

Price is not fixed at the moment, so please wait a bit for paying it, until we reached around 1000 orders.

Do not order Phantom parts. Orders are closed.

But switches can still be ordered!

[dirge]

7bit, take it my additions got rejected?

[hashbaz]

Just send a meassage to Phantom and order MXWHITE.

Price is not fixed at the moment, so please wait a bit for paying it, until we reached around 1000 orders.

Do not order Phantom parts. Orders are closed.

But switches can still be ordered!

You are awesome.  Thanks for jumping on the white switches!

[7bit]

7bit, take it my additions got rejected?

What did you order?

[dirge]

pm'd you mate

[mkawa]

i thew in an order for whites, but i'm waiting for more information on what the force curve and feel for these are -- if they're just blues with clear springs, i'm not so excited.

[captain]

Cherry doesn't seem to acknowledge their existence.
http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm

[mkawa]

this just means that no one's sent the technical documentation to the marketing folks though. clearly, they exist, and if they exist, we can measure them

[hashbaz]

this just means that no one's sent the technical documentation to the marketing folks though. clearly, they exist, and if they exist, we can measure them

This thread has some good info, though it is confusing and contradictory.

[mkawa]

7bit calls them albino greens, someone says they are mushy, sixty says some nonsense in chinese, and there's something in german about cracking mushrooms (wat). someone take a caliper out and measure the pertinent bits of the key stem. at the very least someone take a series of comparison photos with blue, green and white stems against a metric ruler for each axis...

[digitalleftovers]

Actuation force    65 ± 20 cN apx.
Pressure point force    80 ± 20 cN

Thats what I noticed quoted for the 'New' whites at DT, but it also sounds like there are variants beyond this.  Someone needs to provide specs from the supplier, or people will just be speculating until they arrive.

[Dezeer]

I just got an email that incorrectly says that I would need to pay even as it shows the payment amount:

Code: [Select]

Order-ID        |Description                                | Price|Qty|Pcs|  Total
MXBROWN         |MX brown plate mount switch (0.45 EUR)     |  0.60|100|100|  60.00
PHISOWINCLEARKIT|Teensy/PCB/ISOWin plate/MX clear with stabs|136.00|  2|  2| 272.00
PHISOWINREDKIT  |Teensy/PCB/ISOWin plate/MX red with stabs  |136.00|  1|  1| 136.00
SHIPEU          |Shipping costs within EU(17 EUR)           | 22.00|  1|  1|  22.00
Sum             |before fees                                |      |   |104| 490.00
PAYEUR          |EUR bank payment                           |    0%|   |   |   0.00
Total           |                                           |      |   |104| 490.00
Payments        |                                           |      |   |   |-490.00
Amount Due      |                                           |      |   |   | 490.00
Edit: and another one

[7bit]

I just got an email that incorrectly says that I would need to pay even as it shows the payment amount:

...

Edit: and another one

And you hopefully got a 3rd one by now, which looks like this:

Code: [Select]

Order-ID        |Description                                | Price|Qty|Pcs|  Total
MXBROWN         |MX brown plate mount switch (0.45 EUR)     |  0.60|100|100|  60.00
PHISOWINCLEARKIT|Teensy/PCB/ISOWin plate/MX clear with stabs|136.00|  2|  2| 272.00
PHISOWINREDKIT  |Teensy/PCB/ISOWin plate/MX red with stabs  |136.00|  1|  1| 136.00
SHIPEU          |Shipping costs within EU(17 EUR)           | 22.00|  1|  1|  22.00
Sum             |before fees                                |      |   |104| 490.00
PAYEUR          |EUR bank payment                           |    0%|   |   |   0.00
Total           |                                           |      |   |104| 490.00
Payments        |                                           |      |   |   |-490.00
Amount Due      |                                           |      |   |   |   0.00


Everything has been paid up to the penny!

Please order more to make it worth to do another payment!!!!

Thank you for your order!


[7bit]

7bit calls them albino greens, someone says they are mushy, sixty says some nonsense in chinese, and there's something in german about cracking mushrooms (wat). someone take a caliper out and measure the pertinent bits of the key stem. at the very least someone take a series of comparison photos with blue, green and white stems against a metric ruler for each axis...

Albino greens resulted from a Chinese to English translation.

[Zehkul]

Invoice spam, lol.

[demik]

I like being reminded I don't owe anything lol

[tsangan]

If all the parts come and we end up waiting for the switches I'm going to kill 7bit!!!!

:laser:

[dirge]

If all the parts come and we end up waiting for the switches I'm going to kill 7bit!!!!

:laser:

I worry that round 4 may do that before you get a chance... poor fella

[mkawa]

has 7bit synced with biniaris recently? i'm actually overpaid if you count my recent payments (yay whites dropped in price), but the invoice says otherwise

[7bit]

If all the parts come and we end up waiting for the switches I'm going to kill 7bit!!!!

:laser: 7bit

Production and delivery takes 4 weeks.

I will order within this week and pay in the next week, once I've got all the money together.

[BiNiaRiS]

has 7bit synced with biniaris recently? i'm actually overpaid if you count my recent payments (yay whites dropped in price), but the invoice says otherwise

I would PM 7bit to figure that out. I'm just taking payment not doing anything with invoices.

Quick order update: PCBs have been ordered.

[hazeluff]

I would PM 7bit to figure that out. I'm just taking payment not doing anything with invoices.

Quick order update: PCBs have been ordered.

Huzzah @ PCBs!

Yeah I paid you for extra switches, but it didn't update on 7bit. I'd assume the verifying the payment is manual and is probably just not done yet.

[boost]

someone sell me there order ^_^

[litster]

A little bird also told me Teensys, costar stabilizers, and pin headers have come in already.

[BiNiaRiS]

someone sell me there order ^_^

We ordered some extra PCBs and I will be getting extra plates as well. We just don't know how we'll be selling those off. Once everyone has their orders we'll post those.

[mkawa]

i'm probably going to be camping for another pcb then, since it looks like i now have nearly 3 phantoms worth of parts but only 2 pcbs. <-- bad news

i'm only keeping one phantom; the other two will be built cased then sold off <-- good news?

[dorkvader]

i'm probably going to be camping for another pcb then, since it looks like i now have nearly 3 phantoms worth of parts but only 2 pcbs. <-- bad news

i'm only keeping one phantom; the other two will be built cased then sold off <-- good news?

I did that on purpose, so I can try a lowpoly-esque plate 'build.

Bytheway, I'm so glad I decided to get three teensy's.

[mkawa]

lowpoly-esque plate build? eh?

[litster]

Just posted a video to demonstrate how to open up a Filco.  Enjoy!

[video=youtube;AfPaC8Hvczo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfPaC8Hvczo[/video]

[agor]

I regret not having jumped this GB
How much was PCB+controller+plate? (PHISO e.g.)

[BiNiaRiS]

I regret not having jumped this GB
How much was PCB+controller+plate? (PHISO e.g.)

$35 + $18 + $15 i believe.

[agor]

Oh boy, makes me even more sad