Phantom Custom Keyboard Group Buy (CLOSED)

[mkawa]

can we get a rough estimate of how many payments we're waiting on at this point? (or better, a public shaming!

[litster]

It is too early to shame anyone.  People will get to it soon.  I think on Friday 1/3 of invoices were paid.

[dorkvader]

You should ship them out in the order in which they were paid.

[litster]

That would be even more work...

[Zoxc]

Anyone else want an ANSI 1.25 layout with 7bit's function row? (More keys without going crazy!)

I wonder if I could use Rapoo V7 plate for that...

Also how do you get an invoice? Do I have to order one of the payment options?

[litster]

Payment deadline February 13th, 2012 confirmed.  Please pay as soon as possible so we can get order parts.  Thanks.

[hazeluff]

Payment deadline February 13th, 2012 confirmed.  Please pay as soon as possible so we can get order parts.  Thanks.

Also I will now threaten those who haven't paid that I will break their arms. >= D. I want my Phantom!

[7bit]

As for time between ordering parts to shipping to you, we don't have a solid time frame.  PCB should be quick, maybe 2 weeks from order to arrival in the US.  I don't know the lead time for switches.  Parts from Digikey should be quick.  We also need to order pin headers from China which could take 2 to 3 weeks.  Plates should take a couple of weeks.  I could be the long pole as I need to make 50+ 7x costar stabilizer bars.  It could take me 2 to 3 weekends if I don't make them efficiently.

Switches take 4 weeks, plus one week at most for bathing and shipping to US.

[7bit]

can we get a rough estimate of how many payments we're waiting on at this point? (or better, a public shaming!

Apropos:

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PAYPAL       |PayPal fees                         | 2.9%|   |   |                2.30
Total        |                                    |     |   |106|               81.44
Payments     |                                    |     |   |   |              -81.44
Amount Due   |                                    |     |   |   |5.99999999951707e-05

^^^WTF!

There is someone who has still to pay $5.99999999951707e-05 !

Nevertheless:

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Total: 18548.71
Paid: -12065.11
Due:    6565.65


That is 2/3, not bad.

[WhiteFireDragon]

I know this is suuuuper late, but can I still get in on this? Payment deadline is not until the 13th, and if I can confirm what parts I need, I can make payment same day today.

[7bit]

I know this is suuuuper late, but can I still get in on this? Payment deadline is not until the 13th, and if I can confirm what parts I need, I can make payment same day today.

Just send a mesasage to Phantom (please don't forget your e-mail address)!

Please look here fore the pricelist:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_Group_Buy#Pricelist

Please use this format for your message:

PHANTOM 1
PH7BIT 1
TEENSY 1
DIODE 110
MXRED 110
MXCLEAR 110
email@yourdomain.xxx
ADDRESS
Your Address
At where You Live
plus the ZIP code and all that.

Thanks for your order!!!

[hazeluff]

Got my receipt. ^_^

[tsangan]

I got another email to tell me to pay again when I paid already :<

[Kisakuku]

Switches take 4 weeks, plus one week at most for bathing and shipping to US.

Wait, not only is 7bit individually testing thousands of switches, he's BATHING THEM???!!! Don't forget to put a rubber ducky into the tub.

[7bit]

Wait, not only is 7bit individually testing thousands of switches, he's BATHING THEM???!!! Don't forget to put a rubber ducky into the tub.

YEAH!¡¡!!!¡!!¡¡

[7bit]

I got another email to tell me to pay again when I paid already :<

Don't worry, it only meanms that I did not yet get an update that your payment came in.

The last update for PayPal payments was from the 5th!

Also, it could be worse:

Please pay --> $5.99999999951707e-05 <-- until the 13th Feb via PayPal (no gift!) to:

[hazeluff]

Really? He's bathing them?

Imagine like a bathtub of switches and 7bit taking a bath in switches. That's Hot.

[litster]

he is going to add lube to switches.

[7bit]

Problem fixed!

Really? He's bathing them?

Imagine like a bathtub of switches and 7bit taking a bath in switches. That's Hot.

Yes, to make sure the dirt from the factory comes off. You should receive clean switches!

It would be really hot if your avatar would bath with me in the switches!!!

[TheProfosist]

I sent my payment on the first and am still getting invoices...

[7bit]

he is going to add lube to switches.

yeah, and I will write a shell script to swap the springs:

cat $MXCLEAR | sed 's/clearspring/redspring/' > $MXERGOCLEAR

[7bit]

I sent my payment on the first and am still getting invoices...

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Invoice #0000 for TheProfosist

Order-ID  |Description                           |Price|Qty|Pcs|  Total
...
Sum       |before fees                           |     |   |000| 000.00
PAYPAL    |PayPal fees                           | 2.9%|   |   |  00.00
Total     |                                      |     |   |000| 000.00
Payments  |                                      |     |   |   |-000.00
Amount Due|                                      |     |   |   |   0.00


Everything has been paid up to the penny!

Thank you for your order!



Don't see the problem!

[TheProfosist]

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Invoice #0000 for TheProfosist

Order-ID  |Description                           |Price|Qty|Pcs|  Total
...
Sum       |before fees                           |     |   |000| 000.00
PAYPAL    |PayPal fees                           | 2.9%|   |   |  00.00
Total     |                                      |     |   |000| 000.00
Payments  |                                      |     |   |   |-000.00
Amount Due|                                      |     |   |   |   0.00


Everything has been paid up to the penny!

Thank you for your order!


Don't see the problem!

Its cool with me as long as you actually have my money im good.

[kps]

Don't forget to put a rubber ducky into the tub.

What?!? I don't want a rubber-dome Ducky anywhere near my MX switches.

[7bit]

Its cool with me as long as you actually have my money im good.

[size=12]

Everything has been paid up to the penny!

Thank you for your order!

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[7bit]

What?!? I don't want a rubber-dome Ducky anywhere near my MX switches.

OK, I will tell webwit to drop by.

[WhiteFireDragon]

Ok I spent about an hour to skim the thread, it answered a lot of my questions but these are the ones I still need answers to:


1) The Teensy controller is fully programmable for a Dvorak layout, right?

2) Can I add LEDs to all the switches (and have it adjustable) instead of just the two standard LEDs on the top right?

3) I want something like the Japanese Filco layout, like THIS one. It looks like the 7BIT Mounting Plate will support this? Where am I going to get a custom size space bar with the appropriate stabilizers for a layout like that that Jap Filco?

Please help me with these questions, as I want to decide a layout and pay today.

[alaricljs]

1) yes
2) no
3) I'll let 7bit take that one.

[CanadaRox]

Everything has been paid up to the penny!

Thank you for your order!

Hopefully this doesn't mean I can't take you up on your offer on the previous page.  If it makes a difference I'll have it payed as soon as I hear back.

[demik]

I got an invoice also. But I'm guessing it was a mass email.

[WhiteFireDragon]

1) The Teensy controller is fully programmable for a Dvorak layout, right?
yes

2) Can I add LEDs to all the switches (and have it adjustable) instead of just the two standard LEDs on the top right?
no

3) I want something like the Japanese Filco layout, like THIS one. It looks like the 7BIT Mounting Plate will support this? Where am I going to get a custom size space bar with the appropriate stabilizers for a layout like that that Jap Filco?
I'll let 7bit take that one.

Why can't LEDs be added to all switches? The cherry switches comes with a hole for an option to add LEDs to them.

[slueth]

^I don't think the circuit we have will support the ability to light them though.

[alaricljs]

Why can't LEDs be added to all switches? The cherry switches comes with a hole for an option to add LEDs to them.

And the Phantom PCB design doesn't provide traces or holes to mount the LEDs through nor any circuitry to provide power.  The fact that Cherry switches have a location for LEDs does not mean that this is all that is required to get lighting on a key.

[WhiteFireDragon]

^I don't think the circuit we have will support the ability to light them though.

Although if someone was mod-crazy enough to do it, I think it's possible. Just add the LEDs with resistors to all switches, and tap it into the 5v rail of the USB. But then it'll be permanently on unless you make a physical LED off switch.

[7bit]

3) I want something like the Japanese Filco layout, like THIS one. It looks like the 7BIT Mounting Plate will support this? Where am I going to get a custom size space bar with the appropriate stabilizers for a layout like that that Jap Filco?

Please help me with these questions, as I want to decide a layout and pay today.

You need a STAB200 (suitable for keys from 2 to 2.75 units) and you need to find a way to fix the stabiliser somehow whithout support by the mount plate.

Or just take 1.5 units keys as space bars.

[litster]

Although if someone was mod-crazy enough to do it, I think it's possible. Just add the LEDs with resistors to all switches, and tap it into the 5v rail of the USB. But then it'll be permanently on unless you make a physical LED off switch.

I would love to see that rats nest that is ~90 resistors with wires a and LED legs.

You need a STAB200 (suitable for keys from 2 to 2.75 units) and you need to find a way to fix the stabiliser somehow whithout support by the mount plate.

Or just take 1.5 units keys as space bars.

In other words, no, it is not possible.

[dorkvader]

Although if someone was mod-crazy enough to do it, I think it's possible. Just add the LEDs with resistors to all switches, and tap it into the 5v rail of the USB. But then it'll be permanently on unless you make a physical LED off switch.

I would love to see that rats nest that is ~90 resistors with wires a and LED legs.

Well.....

If you really wanted to do it (properly) you could drill tiny holes in the phantom PCB for the LED's. Most LED's have enough leg length for this. Then you could place all of them, then connect them to a piece of stripboard below the desk as it were. This could be controlled by a separate microcontroller (or my favourite) have the "normal" LED's turn a transistor on and off, and have that power your massive 'board full LED array. You'd still run into some issue with them drawing a lot of current, but that's really just a brightness issue. Get efficient LED's

Ofcourse, you'd probably have to abandon PWM based on the properties of the transistor, and figure that out... I'd wait for other designs to try this.

Also, having 1 resistor per LED is so gauche. Just use a current limited DC converter and some control circuitry.

[hazeluff]

Although if someone was mod-crazy enough to do it, I think it's possible. Just add the LEDs with resistors to all switches, and tap it into the 5v rail of the USB. But then it'll be permanently on unless you make a physical LED off switch.

The LEDs would be flimsy as hell. and trying to solder around the switches would be near impossible since they are so close to each other. You might be able to get away with doing an LED "net" and laying it around to backlight some areas, but it would be insane to do it for each key.

[WhiteFireDragon]

Alright, I'll give up on the the idea of soldering on LEDs to every switch for a backlit effect lol.

I finally read enough of the thread to know how this works (first 36 pages). I can't decide between stock filco ANSIWIN layout or the 7BIT layout, so I'll order both plates, 101 switches in case I go with 7bit plate, and 5 stabilizers in case I go with the ANSIWIN layout. I like the amount of keys the bottom row can support for 7bit's layout, but it'll be super hard to find a perfect set of caps for them.

For those that are doing the 7bit layout, how are you doing the space bar? Just using a normal R4 1.25x key? Is there any way I can get a spherical shape key (like the space bar but not as long) without having to go through the group buy round 4? I don't think I have the patience to wait for SP.

[hazeluff]

Alright, I'll give up on the the idea of soldering on LEDs to every switch for a backlit effect lol.

I finally read enough of the thread to know how this works (first 36 pages). I can't decide between stock filco ANSIWIN layout or the 7BIT layout, so I'll order both plates, 101 switches in case I go with 7bit plate, and 5 stabilizers in case I go with the ANSIWIN layout. I like the amount of keys the bottom row can support for 7bit's layout, but it'll be super hard to find a perfect set of caps for them.

For those that are doing the 7bit layout, how are you doing the space bar? Just using a normal R4 1.25x key? Is there any way I can get a spherical shape key (like the space bar but not as long) without having to go through the group buy round 4? I don't think I have the patience to wait for SP.

What do you want from 7BIT layout?

[WhiteFireDragon]

The extra keys on the bottoms row, but I'm not sure how the space bar will work.

[7bit]

Alright, I'll give up on the the idea of soldering on LEDs to every switch for a backlit effect lol.

I finally read enough of the thread to know how this works (first 36 pages). I can't decide between stock filco ANSIWIN layout or the 7BIT layout, so I'll order both plates, 101 switches in case I go with 7bit plate, and 5 stabilizers in case I go with the ANSIWIN layout. I like the amount of keys the bottom row can support for 7bit's layout, but it'll be super hard to find a perfect set of caps for them.

For those that are doing the 7bit layout, how are you doing the space bar? Just using a normal R4 1.25x key? Is there any way I can get a spherical shape key (like the space bar but not as long) without having to go through the group buy round 4? I don't think I have the patience to wait for SP.

You can get 2 G80-2551 to cover it. But keys will not always properly labeled and the return key might be smaller as it could (1 unit instead of 1.25).

Better get Round 4 stuff. Also, the space bar can be up to 1.5 units wide.

[bpiphany]

Well.....

If you really wanted to do it (properly) you could drill tiny holes in the phantom PCB for the LED's.

Mostly there are actually no traces in the places where the LEDs are supposed to go. But (and this is a big one) I was a good boy and added ground planes to both sides of the PCB, all over the place. Good luck doing a mod like this =D Well actually the ground plane might be of some help too.

[WhiteFireDragon]

I'll just get both of the plates and worry choosing which one I want to use later since order time is running out. Can someone confirm my parts to see if I need to add anything else to the list? I got 105 mx red switches in case I use the 7bit layout, and all the stabilizers in case I use the filco layout. Btw, is there any reason to buy stabilizers from this group buy rather than the stabilizers from WASDkeybaord for a few cents? Is the quality different or will it not fit?

PHANTOM 1
PH7BIT 1
PHANSIWIN 1
TEENSY 1
DIODE 120
MXRED 105
MXCLEAR 3
MXGREEN 3
MXGREY 3
STAB200 4
STAB625 1
SHIPUSCHEAP 1
MXCLEAR 110

[F u r u y á]

I think they're the same (WASD is supplying those stabilizers except the 7x ones).

[7bit]

I'll just get both of the plates and worry choosing which one I want to use later since order time is running out. Can someone confirm my parts to see if I need to add anything else to the list? I got 105 mx red switches in case I use the 7bit layout, and all the stabilizers in case I use the filco layout. Btw, is there any reason to buy stabilizers from this group buy rather than the stabilizers from WASDkeybaord for a few cents? Is the quality different or will it not fit?

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checking ...
PHANTOM 1<---OK
PH7BIT 1<---OK :-)
PHANSIWIN 1<---WARNING: You won't need it!
TEENSY 1<---OK
DIODE 120<---OK
MXRED 105<---OK
MXCLEAR 3<---WARNING: You need 105 switches to mod them to ergo clears with the red springs!
MXGREEN 3<---OK
MXGREY 3<---OK
STAB200 4<---WARNING: No stabliliser necessary for 7BIT layout (for PHANSIWIN OK).
STAB625 1<---WARNING: No stabliliser necessary for 7BIT layout (for PHANSIWIN OK).
SHIPUSCHEAP 1<---ERROR: no cheap shipping for phantom PCBs and plates! You need SHIPUS
MXCLEAR 110<---OK
done.
Status: ERROR!
1 error(s), 4 warning(s).

[7bit]

BUMP!!!!

This is still open!

Please pay if you got an invoice.

If your account shows a positive balance, please order more!!!

Thanks!

Deadline: Monday 2012-02-13.

Deadline for switches: Tuesday 2012-02-14

[WhiteFireDragon]

How come the Cherry stabilizers were not available?

And I want to send in my order to get the invoice. You said to PM "Phantom", who is that? Can't seem to find his profile.

[litster]

If it is easy to find, it wouldn't be called the Phantom!  LOL!  Here is a link to Phantom's profile: http://geekhack.org/member.php?14604-Phantom

Plate-mount Cherry stabilizers are out of stock every where around the world.  Good thing we can source costar stabilizers and I figured out how to bend stabilizer bars for 7x spacebars.  I about about 10 stabilizer bars made, still 40+ to go :-(

[mkawa]

imo the costar stabilizer design is significantly more solid anyway