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« on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 10:59:56 »
yes you read that title right

:jaw: The impossible is now possible for one lucky person

Without a doubt these are the cleanest and nicest looking full key set that SP has ever managed to make.
I've decided though that I personally don't like the look of so much red on my keyboards, so my Ragnarock and Red Alert sets are all going bye bye

So this is the full Red Alert base set which is 170keys and a full list is here as items 1-4 (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/rebel-red-alert-ended-prepare-for-left-over-sets-april-1-t860.html)
This does NOT include the little experimental set though as I didn't purchase that to begin with.

Here are 2 pictures of all the keys. I tried to split them out so that keys which had both a white and gray option are side-by-side for the most part.
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As you can see from the pictures, these are in mint condition, maybe used 3 days at work so no shine/scuffs/whatever. Quite a few keys were never used at all as I had them on a 10keyless board. The MN guys who saw them at our meetup earlier this month can confirm they look brand new


These will be FOR TRADE ONLY at this time. Cash only offers will not be accepted at this time so don't even send them to me. I may accept a trade+cash option though if that is my best option. If no acceptable trades are found, then these will go up on ebay and you can go crazy there. I really don't want to put them on ebay though after seeing the silly amount just a partial set went for over on deskthority.net

I'm only interested in Cherry MX keycaps or keyboard trades for other rare and unique stuff. Either PM me or post in this thread your trade offer, it doesn't matter.

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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:00:08 »
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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:04:24 »
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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:04:56 »
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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:05:36 »
Longshot here but I've got a blue f2 skull and a set of like new white on black Cherry doubleshots that I'd trade both for the red alert set.


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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:14:39 »
I had it. I traded it away ^^

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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:20:19 »
Good luck Flynn.  Hope you get something interesting and btw, this should go fast.  I already have a set so I'm just gonna pass so someone else can have a shot at it. =P
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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:23:17 »
I have a brandnew  Dolch Style/Round 1 sets. Willing to pay more to get your red alert :-).
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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:25:21 »
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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:34:46 »
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Good luck Flynn.  Hope you get something interesting and btw, this should go fast.  I already have a set so I'm just gonna pass so someone else can have a shot at it. =P

Thanks! yea u guys reaper/tsangan/demik seem to have the majority of the other most interesting stuff, but 2 of 3 already have this set

I should have mentioned in the first post, but I am at work so i'll be slowly responding to people as I can....
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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 12:00:26 »
i threw in my offer but imo you should shoot for something otd; keep it in the family :)

oh, i also probably have a built phantom (IN THE FUTURE) to offer if you're into that..

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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 12:17:46 »
Where is the red number key row? Or was that not part of the original set?

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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 12:22:55 »
I have a feeling if I offered my entire Kb collection it still wouldn't be enough for this set.
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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 12:35:16 »
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Where is the red number key row? Or was that not part of the original set?
its not part of the base kit. Those were in the experimental set
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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 14:07:49 »
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its not part of the base kit. Those were in the experimental set

They made it look so much better, imo.

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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 15:09:15 »
Oh , and I can offer a cherry Dye Sub Set, ISO though.

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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 16:22:55 »
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Oh , and I can offer a cherry Dye Sub Set, ISO though.

You traded away your set and now you want this one? =)  C'mon, let others have a chance at this!

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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 16:28:12 »
Sure : )

But if inlikeflynn is interested in my stuff, why not? I am looking for a nice keycap set for my future poker : )

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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 16:28:52 »
I passed up on these. :-|

Just don't get the whole hoarding thing I guess. Either I use it, or I don't and it taking up space in my life!

Better to pass something along to someone else rather than let it sit in a box somewhere slowly deteriorating.

This set has to be worth at least $300-400.

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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 16:36:48 »
They may be worth this much, but I dont care. It could be a little hype either. I traded them for 2 Topre keysets. I even added $100. It's all about karma...

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 16:48:37 »
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I passed up on these. :-|

Just don't get the whole hoarding thing I guess. Either I use it, or I don't and it taking up space in my life!

Better to pass something along to someone else rather than let it sit in a box somewhere slowly deteriorating.

This set has to be worth at least $300-400.

Lol idiots would pay that
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« Reply #23 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 16:57:59 »
They're nice... but honestly, who's gonna pay THAT much for plastic? imsto's thick dyesubs ALL THE WAY!
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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 17:00:52 »
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They're nice... but honestly, who's gonna pay THAT much for plastic? imsto's thick dyesubs ALL THE WAY!

Agreed.

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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 17:07:47 »
I guess you could shop around, but where? LOL.

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« Reply #26 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 17:26:07 »
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This set has to be worth at least $300-400.


Shawn and I were joking last week about these selling for this much on ebay just based on how much the partial set sold for on DT.
I completely agree no one should pay that much cash for them, which is why i'm trying to only do trades. I'm not expecting the trades to be worth that much either. FYI shawn's proposed trade was for quite a bit less than that number, as its the proposed items themselves i'm interested in, not what value they may or may not have on the classifieds...

I have a couple interesting offers out there already, I need to respond to some PM's yet, and I haven't seen some people here which I thought would be.
So nothing decided yet =)
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« Reply #27 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 19:02:22 »
ill trade you my first child's naming rights!

i'd say good luck with trades but.. im sure your inbox is crazy right now that you wont need luck
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« Reply #28 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 19:07:34 »
i was going to say this morning, after you decide, you should post the rarest/coolest/craziest stuff you were offered lol

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« Reply #29 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 19:46:04 »
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i'd say good luck with trades but.. im sure your inbox is crazy right now that you wont need luck
Surprisingly its not at all like I guessed it would be. You should send me one though =)

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i was going to say this morning, after you decide, you should post the rarest/coolest/craziest stuff you were offered lol
Yea i'll do that, but so far there isn't really that rare being offered :-/
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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 19:48:20 »
eh, hold out then. you have the golden ticket, after all...

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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 21:03:23 »
Huh nothing to your liking? PM'd earlier today but never heard anything back. Oh well the sets worthless the hand key in my opinion anyways lol
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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 21:50:01 »
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Huh nothing to your liking? PM'd earlier today but never heard anything back. Oh well the sets worthless the hand key in my opinion anyways lol

no just had a much busier afternoon at work and evening at home than I was expecting :-/
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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 22:23:05 »
Why don't we just run a gb for these here at gh? Theres a crap ton of demand I'm sure without a doubt at least 100 sets would be ordered.

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 22:25:42 »
we can't use their custom legends

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« Reply #35 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 22:26:06 »
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Why don't we just run a gb for these here at gh? Theres a crap ton of demand I'm sure without a doubt at least 100 sets would be ordered.

This has been covered before, and I do believe you were there for that conversation, too. It wouldn't be cool to exactly copy someone else work.

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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 23 May 2012, 22:28:17 »
Why not our own version lol? Most of the keys look the same except the red numrow and some of the mod legends

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 00:11:32 »
Yeah, we can build our own sets with the same color scheme. I think its color scheme, red on pure white, is the most beautiful part.
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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 00:46:59 »
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Why not our own version lol? Most of the keys look the same except the red numrow and some of the mod legends

Apparently i missed this conversation

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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 01:09:17 »
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Custom legends are expensive.


It's not a ton of extra legends.  Most of them are SP's standard WYSE font.  The bigger concern is copying the other forums.  It's kind of a **** move.

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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 02:18:20 »
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It's not a ton of extra legends.  Most of them are SP's standard WYSE font.  The bigger concern is copying the other forums.  It's kind of a **** move.

I can understand that but they would be different and everyone would know if you had an original set, it's not like this will affect the price or status of the original sets.

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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 10:49:22 »
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It's not a ton of extra legends.  Most of them are SP's standard WYSE font.  The bigger concern is copying the other forums.  It's kind of a **** move.

I don't get it. The Cream Cheese and Green set is sort of "copying the other forums", what's all the fuzz about red and white, which is an even more common colour scheme.

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« Reply #42 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 11:01:13 »
I can see many things wrong with copying the other forums stuff but mainly it's the relationship that we want to keep.  Right now, as you probably may have seen, KBD community is starting to let some of their custom keyboards (namely KMAC) trickle into the US market.  This is a good sign of trust and friendship and if we were to ruin that, by let say copy the Red Alert set, then you can just forget about any future collaborations (not to mention that the new KMAC mini, KMAC pad and the second revision of the KMAC is coming out soon).

Also that Diablo keycaps set (now called Sanctuary) is also another joint venture between members of Geekhack and KBD.  If we were to ruin the relationship by copying one of their keycap set just once, then I'm pretty sure they won't include us in any future designs or group buys.  Think long term instead of just short term. =)
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« Reply #43 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 11:38:32 »
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I can understand that but they would be different and everyone would know if you had an original set, it's not like this will affect the price or status of the original sets.

It would definitely affect the price of the original sets, even if we made ours slightly different.  If we want to do a red-on-white/beige set I think that's fine.  But we should not copy their custom legends.  And if we want to do a red number row I think it would be polite to check with whoever ran the original RA buy and make sure they're cool with it.

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I don't get it. The Cream Cheese and Green set is sort of "copying the other forums", what's all the fuzz about red and white, which is an even more common colour scheme.

This is a good point.  I'm not sure how old and how available the original is.  Tsangan does know people in the Korean keyboard community and frequents their forums, so my guess is he has a sense of what is cool and what sacrosanct.  Also he is just using SP's default legends.  The original looked significantly different.

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I can see many things wrong with copying the other forums stuff but mainly it's the relationship that we want to keep.  Right now, as you probably may have seen, KBD community is starting to let some of their custom keyboards (namely KMAC) trickle into the US market.  This is a good sign of trust and friendship and if we were to ruin that, by let say copy the Red Alert set, then you can just forget about any future collaborations (not to mention that the new KMAC mini, KMAC pad and the second revision of the KMAC is coming out soon).

Also that Diablo keycaps set (now called Sanctuary) is also another joint venture between members of Geekhack and KBD.  If we were to ruin the relationship by copying one of their keycap set just once, then I'm pretty sure they won't include us in any future designs or group buys.  Think long term instead of just short term. =)

This. ^^

It's not about sucking up to the Koreans, it's about demonstrating that we're not jerks.  The RA sets are a huge deal right now.  Everyone wants them.  Doing a knock-off set would be bad form IMO, without checking with them first at the very least.  And to be frank, they do a lot more cool stuff than us.  We want them to like us and include us and collaborate with us.  So maybe it is a little bit about sucking up. :P

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« Reply #44 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 11:55:04 »
I'm pretty sure it has been said before that the Cream&Green creator said yes and the Red Alert creator said no about a re-creation happening.  If GH had already done a RA clone which copied the custom legends, i'm sure what reaper said would already be true and that would be the end for GH getting access to any future cool things. I know personally if I had to choose between the opportunity to get a KMAC or a single set of any replica keycaps from SP, I know what I would choose...

Yes it does suck if you want a RA clone and it cannot happen, but in the long term respecting the creator's request will be better for the community.

Only a few people know this, but I was going to run a GB for those awesome and ultra rare bright green GHSS 4 keys. I had prices from SP, tentative color choices, and the order thread written up while waiting for permission from the creator to-do this. Ultimately the creator (didjamatic) asked me not to-do it, so I didn't and the idea quitely went away. Sure I could have gone through with it and made them anyways, but that would have been a ****head thing to-do considering all the good things didjamatic has done for the community in the past.

So as much as I want it, i'll never get a bright green GHSS keyset. But life goes on and thanks to the efforts of others within the community we are now getting access to all kinds of cooler things from Korea and elsewhere. Now if only the boat would hurry up and get those KMAC's over here to the US:)

Ok back on topic. I'm still taking offers and going to put this over on DT as well I think. Someone should offer a like new dolch set + CC Jack I think ;-)
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« Reply #45 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 12:03:08 »
What if we just do a red on white set? We don't have to copy and custom legends that KBD made or used, or we could have our own little GH thing...like replace the GH keys with white on red. While I think it's fair that we shouldn't copy their idea with the custom legends and some of the stuff they did (ideas/fonts), I do think it would be a little unfair if we just did a simple red on white kit and they got mad at us for it.
Also, sorry to inlikleflynn if I derailed your thread a little you get more attention now though (not like you need it :tongue: )
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« Reply #46 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 13:06:59 »
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What if we just do a red on white set? We don't have to copy and custom legends that KBD made or used, or we could have our own little GH thing...like replace the GH keys with white on red. While I think it's fair that we shouldn't copy their idea with the custom legends and some of the stuff they did (ideas/fonts), I do think it would be a little unfair if we just did a simple red on white kit and they got mad at us for it.
Also, sorry to inlikleflynn if I derailed your thread a little you get more attention now though (not like you need it :tongue: )

Agreed. We should do a full set with Cherry replica legends. Exactly like the black on white/beige but red legends.
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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 13:14:51 »
White on red modifiers would look amazing. Could all of the letters be Russian? That would really give it the Nod feel :D

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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 15:48:10 »
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Agreed. We should do a full set with Cherry replica legends. Exactly like the black on white/beige but red legends.

I would think that sort of set would be just fine seeing as its no different than the imsto dyesub's of the same sort of color with standard legends.


anyways also just cross posted this over at DT http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/red-alert-base-set-170keys-t2697.html
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Red Alert base set 170keys
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 24 May 2012, 16:16:07 »
Any set with Cherry replica legends would be a go in my opinion.

Good luck to anyone that wants to trade for this set.