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Offline Stn

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« on: Thu, 31 May 2012, 21:41:30 »
Hey guys,

I finally got my first mechanical - CM Storm Trigger.



The MX Browns are a little too noisy for me at night. I was thinking about getting these: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-accessories-2/cherry-mx-rubber-switch-dampeners.html - the 0.4mm ones, I wouldn't mind a reduced key press.

Just wanted to check with you experts if this would be compatible with my keyboard, or if there are better options?

Offline N8N

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« Reply #1 on: Thu, 31 May 2012, 21:45:15 »
Those or the elite keyboards soft landing pads are pretty much the two standard options for your situation.
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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 00:55:42 »
Personally I like the o-rings better than the pads.  They're more bouncy. lol
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Offline TheProfosist

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« Reply #3 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 02:13:15 »
Same 40A orings fro wasd for me. I actually have an extra set of the and the 50As if your interested.

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« Reply #4 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 02:22:39 »
How do you compare both Theprofosist?

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« Reply #5 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 02:26:02 »
I prefer the 40A the 50As are just a tad too hard.

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« Reply #6 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 02:32:49 »
I tried O-ring on my Filco brown. It reduced the noise considerably, but somehow I miss the clicky sound of brown switches.
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« Reply #7 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 02:38:24 »
Quote from: Tony;605386
I tried O-ring on my Filco brown. It reduced the noise considerably, but somehow I miss the clicky sound of brown switches.

Browns dont click its blues and greens that do. It was probably you bottoming out.

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« Reply #8 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 02:40:28 »
Quote from: Tony;605386
I tried O-ring on my Filco brown. It reduced the noise considerably, but somehow I miss the clicky sound of brown switches.

It's not the clicky sound, it's you botttoming the **** out of your caps sound :D

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« Reply #9 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 02:41:14 »
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I prefer the 40A the 50As are just a tad too hard.

Ahh man !

I asked on IRC which one I should take and somebody said 50A. Now I regret :(

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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 02:46:09 »
Id you have 50A and want 40As try the new 40A-L one they shouldnt reduce travel by that much.

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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 03:08:05 »
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Id you have 50A and want 40As try the new 40A-L one they shouldnt reduce travel by that much.

I think I'll wait a bit. I'm already spending too much as is :s.

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« Reply #12 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 12:36:41 »
Where are you gents acquiring your O-rings (if not from WASD)?
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Offline Djuzuh

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« Reply #13 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 12:37:50 »
WASDkeyboards.

Offline Stn

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« Reply #14 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 13:17:30 »
Thanks guys, I got the 40A-R's. Wouldn't mind a reduced key travel.

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« Reply #15 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 13:46:07 »
When is kaiserreich going to come through with more cheap-ass o-rings?

Even if he raised his price to $5 he could still sell a bunch.
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« Reply #16 on: Fri, 01 June 2012, 14:14:05 »
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When is kaiserreich going to come through with more cheap-ass o-rings?

Even if he raised his price to $5 he could still sell a bunch.

I'd love to buy some "cheap-ass o-rings"

it seems the only place you can get 40A is WASD, 50A are easy to find
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« Reply #17 on: Sat, 02 June 2012, 03:39:33 »
Their more expensive because their edpm which is a good thing.

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« Reply #18 on: Sat, 02 June 2012, 06:36:09 »
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Their more expensive because their edpm which is a good thing.

I ended up getting some 50A Buna N o-rings from Amazon. I've seen a few people note that EPDM is better, but never saw a good explanation why.  I've had no problems with the Buna N, but also have nothing to compare to. Can anyone explain why EPDM is the material of choice?

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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 02 June 2012, 06:39:58 »
OddOne: It holds better with the time I believe.

Offline OddOne

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« Reply #20 on: Sat, 02 June 2012, 07:20:23 »
Thanks Djuzuh.

A quick google search netted me this article on ehow: http://www.ehow.com/about_6190466_epdm-vs_-nitrile-rubber-washer.html

It seems to agree with your assumption that EPDM will hold up longer in a vibration dampening or mechanical environment. Though I think this article is more comparing the two in industrial applications.

I would bet neither are a bad choice for what we are using them for, but it does appear EPDM would be the better choice if you had to choose. I'll stick with the Buna N for now and report back on the wear over time.
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« Reply #21 on: Sun, 03 June 2012, 14:53:35 »
I don't know what the amazon ones are made of buy EPDM is used a lot in window manufacturing because it hold's it's shape and doesn't compress


Source: I design window systems, we used millions of feet of EPDM gasket a year
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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 03 June 2012, 15:29:14 »
http://www.amazon.com/Orthodontic-Elastics-Bands-Inch-Medium/dp/B002GCNZMU

These or other ortho elastics also work, although I'm not sure whether they're more or less economical. They work well, but I hate the reduced key travel, so it's a no-go for me.
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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 03 June 2012, 15:43:45 »
I ordered these from Amazon.  They are Buna N, 50A hardness, and are the same thickness as the original o-rings from WASD keyboards.

After about 2 months of use, I notice no difference between the used ones and the few spares of unused ones I have.  I'll make a post later on if I notice any issues with them after more use...
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